There was an earlier post concerning grounding a pin on the backplane which 
instantly disables the PL tone on the transmitter.  I've got a VHF unified 
chassis MICOR which is controlled by an SCOM 7K controller.  I used one of 
the digital outputs of the controller and tied it directly to the PL disable 
connection on the backplane.

Then, I programmed a macro which was tied to a command function to have the 
line go low 1 or 2 seconds just before the transmitter shuts down.  I works 
flawlessly.  I don't have the manual or the code in front of me, but if 
anyone is interested in this I can provide details.  Obviously you would 
need either a controller or some type of interface to accomplish this.

73,

Don, KD9PT


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "N1BUG" <p...@n1bug.com>
To: <Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 03, 2010 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Repeater-Builder] IDEA? Re: Micor PL encoder modification 
(TLN5731A)


> Thanks Jeff!
>
> Having someone to kick this around with is helping.
>
> Very good point about the ratty user signal. I hadn't thought of that.
>
> You are exactly right. I need to make sure the controller is set up
> to always keep the transmitter up for a short time after loss of
> user signal on the repeater, and just kill the tone.
>
> Paul
>
>
> Jeff DePolo wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>> I don't have a schematic in front of me, but if your plan is to key 
>> voltage
>> to the board on/off, this won't work ideally because the vibrasender reed
>> takes a little time to "come up to speed".
>>
>> Since the repeater transmitter is still keyed long after a user unkeys, 
>> just
>> muting the encoder seems like it would work fine all by itself. Whether 
>> the
>> radio does or does not understand reverse-burst shouldn't matter. RB 
>> would
>> mute the receiver quicker on radios that do understand RB, but unless 
>> your
>> courtesy tone, ID's, etc. start to be played out very quickly (like 
>> within a
>> few hundred ms) of a user unkeying, even radios looking for RB should 
>> mute
>> before those ID's and CT's air.
>>
>> Also consider what happens if a user is noisy/ratty/fluttery into the
>> repeater. As the COR briefly goes inactive during a fade, you're going be
>> switching PL phases. This will tend to make the user sound even more 
>> choppy
>> on listener's radios that are using PL decode. You'd be better off not
>> having the phase change, and just having the PL drop out briefly without 
>> RB,
>> and then recovering in-phase when COR goes active again - less chance of
>> having the user radio mute intermittantly.
>>
>> --- Jeff WN3A
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