Here's the latest: We went up to our site yesterday. We added a lighting 
arrestor to the receive antenna. We grounded the chassis/rail/cabinet as it was 
only grounded via the power cord previously.  Didn't expect this to fix the 
paging problem, it just needed to be done. 

I did find a loose UHF connector on the Wacom. This is a two cavity BP filter 
on the receive side. I don't know if the loose connector was the problem but 
it's much cleaner now. We ran in carrier squelch for about an hour and didn't 
hear much of anything. A dramatic improvement and amazing for our dirty hill. 
Today there have been a couple of pages bust through the P/L but it's 1,000% 
better than it was and it's still pretty quite in carrier squelch. 

Do you think the loose connector and/or grounding could have helped or is this 
some sort of cruel coincidence?
--
Tim
:wq

On Aug 24, 2010, at 3:48 PM, Walter H wrote:

> We also had a problem with a 454 pager.
> Quintron with a 1/4 k amp.
> Only one in the metro area had a spur, but that one traveled as the PA cage 
> changed temperature.
> Got a hold of the paging company, and they turned each one off until we saw 
> the spur go away.
> Final tube had been replaced and not properly neutralized.
> 
> WalterH
> 
> --- In Repeater-Builder@yahoogroups.com, "Tom W2MN" <w...@...> wrote:
> >
> > We had a pager spur problem with our repeater (no pl). The problem would
> > come and go. We determined it happened mostly with time of day (outside
> > temperature). Sometime it was just a short 1 second event and sometimes it
> > would hold for a bit more (maybe 2 -5 sec). We setup a satellite multimode
> > radio (actually dial in the frequency with widest bandwidth setting) and
> > monitored the repeater input with a tape recorder and vox. We did this to
> > capture the audio so we could listen to characteristics and THE CW CALLSIGN.
> > We captured enough of the callsign that we were able to indentify the whole
> > call (and freq) from the FCC database. 
> > 
> > With that, we were able to monitor the repeater and the pager for hits. Yes,
> > it did hit some times and not others. The reason was, it was caused by an
> > unstable spur that drifted up and down the ham band with temperature and the
> > amount of pager traffic. It was also hitting other repeaters as it drifted
> > but most of the other repeaters had pl. 
> > 
> > There was a chain of pagers using the same freq and callsign and we had to
> > figure out which tower it was. We used a beam antenna and chased the spur
> > up/down the band until we were able to get a definite direction. The next
> > step as to visit the site AREA with an HT and just scan the ham repeater
> > input freqs during the likely time of day. Bingo, the spur was loud and
> > clear!.
> > 
> > Of course the pager owner was in denial but being a pest for a couple of
> > weeks got the problem removed. They claim it was a spur in the final PA that
> > had been serviced just at the time the problem started. They replaced the
> > PA.
> > 
> > Hope this story helps.
> > 
> > Tom
> >
> 
> 

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