Wow!
Without having taken a closer look:
I'm certainly impressed what you did in just a week!
Detlef
On Fri, 02 Jul 2010 16:50:28 +0200
"Stefan Rödiger" <stefan_roedi...@gmx.de> wrote:
> Hi list,
>
> first of all I did not come as far as I wanted. Moreover my provider has
> technical issues. Thus I can not use svn.
>
> However, I think we will get a very interesting story. I please you to have a
> look into the document till Friday next week (or give me feedback how long
> you need). Please use the change tracking tool of OOo ("Edit/Changes/Record").
>
> Figures are mostly place holders but should give a good impression of what
> will be there at the end.
> I had some troubles in first place to come up with empirical data (strange
> for somebody in medical/natural science) which describe the GUI development.
> Finally I came up with the idea to include metrics (download number, Google
> hits, LOC development, internationalization and such) used in other research
> fields. This will distinguish us from other papers in this field but will
> also help to understand why RKWard is where it is and what it is. Thinks like
> exact menu structure are not so important in my opinion (may find a home in
> the appendix). I have also some other things in mind (in especial usability
> metrics, form factor) but I need to gain some knowledge (reviewing
> literature, talk with an expert).
> Content wise I wrote down some thoughts, took information from the mailing
> list or the RKWard wiki (hope this is okay). I have also found a bunch of
> literature (something like 20 citations ("lit_02072010.html") right now) from
> peer-reviewed articles and other documents (books, abstracts, …). We
> certainly can cite more.
> How to install RKWard exactly is not so important in my opinion. This should
> be rather short, since there is a wiki, packages of different distros and the
> read me.
>
> Thinks I would like to see:
> Meik: You did a work shop with RKWard. Maybe this would be a good story for a
> "use case scenario". Right now there are some places in the document (results
> output for example) which illustrate use cases. More in other places would be
> better.
>
> Thomas: The technical part will be the most interesting. I guess you see
> which parts in the document I mean. Figures can describe more than words. If
> you could update some diagrams (RKWard structure with PHP or JS backend, …).
> In any case I need support here. I suggest that I or somebody else writes a
> condensed version of the GUI plug-in development with focus on JavaScript/R
> and example pictures. I consider this to be a core feature of RKWard. Why
> C++/Qt/KDE SC and not Gtk, Tlc/Tk, …needs also some backing (see troubles and
> focus of paper)?
>
> The chapter "Structure of RKWard - Technical Design Overview" and
> "Programmer’s Niche – Extending RKWard" are certainly very, if not most,
> important. Best would be to satisfy many parties (the one who wants to know
> how it works, and the other who wants to know how to code a GUI plug-in).
>
> A short/compact comparison with "competitive" products (Cantor, Rcmdr,
> tinn-r, statistiklabor,…, JGR) is a must in my opinion. While writing the
> paper I came to the impression that RKWard combines the best from all the
> other products (with some disadvantages like large dependencies compared to
> Rcmdr, …) and was wondering why is not everybody using it. :) We can emulate
> features like Cantors Worksheet Interface to some extend, do automatic report
> gerneration like RreportGenerator, have a rather powerful IDE and so on. I
> think you get the point.
>
> Before I forget. The graphic window for plots is just great. It should get
> its own section. Preview of plots and export to what ever was never easier in
> R. I know of no other GUI which does it as comprehensive as RKWard. Am I
> wrong?
>
> All: If you know of (empirical) data sources or literature which support this
> paper, please let me know.
>
> One thing I still have trouble with is the overall statement of the paper.
> Currently it is just a description of RKWard. But it mustn't end here. The
> editors asked for papers which discuss GUIs in statistics and R (that where
> we make currently no comprehensive point), implement toolboxes (that's where
> we fit well), GUIs for the desktop or cloud (that's where we fit good) and
> other features R should have (that where we currently make no point). But we
> will get there.
>
> No need to mention all is open for discussion.
>
> Regards
> Stefan
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