Thanks for the feedback. I will be looking into a patch for this as I believe it's a useful option to have.
Andrew On 2/20/07, Tom Gregory <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Please, settle down, both of you. Soapboxes and rationalization--as > much fun as they are--aren't terribly useful. > > @Marius: Whether condescension was intended or not, it did come > across that way. > @Andrew: A persecution complex is unbecoming. > > Understand, please, Marius, that it's not as simple as "attach an > observer"--because there is no element to attach to on page load, and > no good hook after the element is created. Your sample code > acknowledges this. (And the undocumented hook, "onEnterEditMode" > fires before the form element is created.) Yes, it is the default > behaviour in some browsers to perform the selection automatically (in > Firefox for input text but not textareas) when elements are tabbed > through. Why can't it be a specified option? Why can't the page > developer specify behaviour left ambiguous in W3C specifications? > > What Andrew is doing is request either a patch be implemented to make > text selection an option (should be trivial), or directions to > documentation demonstrating how it could be accomplished. Saying > "It's easy", then posting a demo demonstrating the functionality by > overriding the S.a.us library functions--while helpful to some > degree--didn't really help answer his question. All behaviour can be > overridden in that manner, and it may not be the most architecturally > sound solution, as it's overrides potential changes in future upgrades. > > Now, go back to your corners, and promise to be nice to each other in > the future. At least in public. =) > > Andrew, now you have a starting point (from Marius' helpful code) to > propose a patch that includes the option. > > Let's smile, work together, and try to make this great open source > library and community useful and productive. > > > TAG > > On Feb 20, 2007, at 2:56 PM, Marius Feraru wrote: > > > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Andrew Kaspick wrote: > >> Feel free to ignore my questions, > > I will, permission acknowledged. > > > >> but if you have further information to help me see things your way > >> then > >> please do so without the condescending tone. > > There was no "condescension" intended in any of my prior messages > > on this > > group, and neither will this be. It will be just harsh or > > annoyingly bitter > > for having to repeat myself (in vain) for the third time. > > > >> Your initial response was basically summed up as "attach an > >> observer". > > No. _Basically_ what I was trying to do was to point that "what to > > do upon > > focusing a control element" it's a HIG issue. > > > > More than that, I even provided an answer to your particular issue: to > > attach a "focus" observer that should change focusing behaviour in the > > manner you wanted. > > > > You replied confirming my supposition that accessibility guidelines > > are > > beyond you, so I tried once again to make you understand this is not a > > Prototype/SAU issue, but yada-yada. > > > > More than that, being in a cheerful HTH mood, I took the time > > forging an > > example presenting how to "attach a 'focus' observer on that > > element to do > > that (you know, the usual selection/text range operations)". > > Yes, *THAT*, and NOT an example on "how to go about overriding > > existing > > functions" (how low can you go?) :( > > > >> Leaving that behind, you've still failed to convince me that this > >> is a > >> vendor issue... > > Example: focus a single-line-control-element using keyboard under ... > > > > a) Microsoft Windows XP > > - - Run: Internet Explorer -> Tools -> Internet Options -> "General" > > - - use "Tab" (or/and "Shift-Tab") to focus the input field containing > > the "Home page Adress" value. > > > > b) GTK/Gnome on GNU/Linux > > - - Run: Mozilla Firefox -> Edit -> Preferences -> "Main" > > - - use "Tab" (or/and "Shift-Tab") to focus the input field containing > > the "Home Page" value. > > > > c) QT/KDE on GNU/Linux > > - - Run: Opera -> Tools -> Preferences -> "General" > > - - use "Tab" (or/and "Shift-Tab") to focus the input field containing > > the "Home Page" value. > > > > etc. > > > > Andrew, I'm still not being condescending. Cheers. > > - -- > > Marius Feraru > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > iD8DBQFF226EtZHp/AYZiNkRAuXDAJ9h1dT96RyMnh4v4mDTjtBYIfIyVwCg4R5F > > I15xtIdQKs/9GjGTYQ7PSlk= > > =p+Kk > > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Ruby on Rails: Spinoffs" group. To post to this group, send email to rubyonrails-spinoffs@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/rubyonrails-spinoffs?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
