OK, let me put it another way. Either the NMRA is giving approval to 
non-compliant turnouts, they don't require all of the standards to be met for 
approval, they haven't approved any HO turnouts, or the "rumor" that no HO 
turnouts comply is incorrect. I suspect the last.
 
My first statement is not to be taken out of context, nor streched to 
unwarrented conclusions.  I was responding to a specific statement. "No current 
turnouts meet NMRA standards". If that statement was true, and the vast 
majority of HO turnouts work fine and are perfectly interchangeable, clearly 
whether or not a turnout meets all of the NMRA requirements is irrelevant. 
 
Model railroading was a viable hobby long before NMRA standards. It simply 
appealed to a different kind of hobbyist. 
 
Ed Kozlowsky
Sanford, Maine

--- On Sat, 7/31/10, gftolhu...@aol.com <gftolhu...@aol.com> wrote:


From: gftolhu...@aol.com <gftolhu...@aol.com>
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Turnouts
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 10:04 AM


  



I second Jim's observation--model railroading would never have been a viable 
hobby without the NMRA standards!

Fred Tolhurst

Maryville, TN

-----Original Message-----
From: raisinone <raisin...@wi.rr.com>
To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 9:16 am
Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Turnouts

--- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Kozlowsky <soldado7...@...> wrote:
>
> <snip> I would say the NMRA standards are irrelevent.
> Ed Kozlowsky

Ed, if you are a manufacturer that's a scary statement! SHS, RRM and others 
design and build models with wheel sets set to current NMRA/NASG standards to 
run on trackwork built to those standards. When the standards get 
"wishy-washy", problems are bound to happen. I recall Ed Loizeaux used to (and 
I assume he still does) require others to check wheel alignment on any item 
they want to run on his layout. Obtaining and learning how to use the 
appropriate track and wheel standards gauge is vital...

I can tell you lots of stories of people buying product and saying, "it derails 
all the time in switches". O.K., "do you won a track and wheel standards gauge 
and have you checked wheels and turnouts to confirm they are in gauge?" Answer 
- "No" The thought crosses my mind - this guy might want to reconsider S scale 
operation... Good rule to follow: inspect what you expect.

Jim Kindraka

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