OK, let me put it another way. Either the NMRA is giving approval to non-compliant turnouts, they don't require all of the standards to be met for approval, they haven't approved any HO turnouts, or the "rumor" that no HO turnouts comply is incorrect. I suspect the last. My first statement is not to be taken out of context, nor streched to unwarrented conclusions. I was responding to a specific statement. "No current turnouts meet NMRA standards". If that statement was true, and the vast majority of HO turnouts work fine and are perfectly interchangeable, clearly whether or not a turnout meets all of the NMRA requirements is irrelevant. Model railroading was a viable hobby long before NMRA standards. It simply appealed to a different kind of hobbyist. Ed Kozlowsky Sanford, Maine
--- On Sat, 7/31/10, gftolhu...@aol.com <gftolhu...@aol.com> wrote: From: gftolhu...@aol.com <gftolhu...@aol.com> Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Turnouts To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Date: Saturday, July 31, 2010, 10:04 AM I second Jim's observation--model railroading would never have been a viable hobby without the NMRA standards! Fred Tolhurst Maryville, TN -----Original Message----- From: raisinone <raisin...@wi.rr.com> To: S-Scale@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, Jul 31, 2010 9:16 am Subject: Re: {S-Scale List} Turnouts --- In S-Scale@yahoogroups.com, Ed Kozlowsky <soldado7...@...> wrote: > > <snip> I would say the NMRA standards are irrelevent. > Ed Kozlowsky Ed, if you are a manufacturer that's a scary statement! SHS, RRM and others design and build models with wheel sets set to current NMRA/NASG standards to run on trackwork built to those standards. When the standards get "wishy-washy", problems are bound to happen. I recall Ed Loizeaux used to (and I assume he still does) require others to check wheel alignment on any item they want to run on his layout. Obtaining and learning how to use the appropriate track and wheel standards gauge is vital... I can tell you lots of stories of people buying product and saying, "it derails all the time in switches". O.K., "do you won a track and wheel standards gauge and have you checked wheels and turnouts to confirm they are in gauge?" Answer - "No" The thought crosses my mind - this guy might want to reconsider S scale operation... Good rule to follow: inspect what you expect. Jim Kindraka [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] ------------------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/ <*> Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional <*> To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/S-Scale/join (Yahoo! ID required) <*> To change settings via email: s-scale-dig...@yahoogroups.com s-scale-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: s-scale-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/