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Today's Topics:

   1. Quizz # 9 more comments (peekayar)
   2. udyogaparvam - sarga 14 - 9 (Sai Susarla)
   3. Reg.  Hanuma's flights to Lanka (Desiraju Hanumanta Rao)
   4. Re: Reg.  Hanuma's flights to Lanka (Vis Tekumalla)
   5. Humour in grammer (5) - when PANini made a mistake. (peekayar)
   6. udyogaparvam - sarga 14 - 10 (Sai Susarla)
   7. Re: Humour in grammer (5) - when PANini made a mistake. (Sai)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 07:02:41 -0800 (PST)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Quizz # 9 more comments
To: quizzmaster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,    "A.R. Srikrishnan"
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On checking up with Apte's I find the following -
 
Asanna = approached,near, impending, imminent.
pratyAsannaH = proximate,near, contigous.
atyAsanna = not listed, probably it was not in use.

Even for getting a meaning "nearing death", the
phrase to be used will be Asanne maraNe. 

atyAsanna by itself cannot mean nearing death.
 
In additon to the above, excessive rain, drought, 
locusts,rats and parrots are calamities of a country.
But a country will have only one king. The use of
the plural rAjAnaH will have meaning only when the
word refers to the kings of surrounding kingdoms,
i.e. pratyAsannAshcha rAjAnaH.
 
P.K.Ramakrishnan

Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Dear Mr. Srikrishnan:
I think "pratyAsannAshcha rAjAnaH" fits better
 with the "seasonal" aspect of the six calamities listed.  
"A.R. Srikrishnan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
Hello:
Just a couple of comments....
1. I think, saurilagne is correct. sauri is saturn (shani)
- the name derives as "son of suura" (suura and suurya both
mean sun). 
2. 'pratyAsannAshcha rAjAnaH' : The version that I have
heard is 'atyAsannAshcha rAjAnaH' - Meaning, Kings who are
close to death (ie, the rulers who, due to old age or
illness, are not able to look after the Kingdom properly). 

Thanks !
Srikrishnan



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Message: 2
Date: Fri,  5 Mar 2004 07:30:00 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sai Susarla)
Subject: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 14 - 9
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shlokaH 9
padmasya bhittvA nAla.n cha vivesha sahitA tayA .
visatantupraviShTa.n cha tatrApashyachchhatakratum .. 9..\

padavibhaagaH
padmasya bhittvA nAla.n cha vivesha sahitA tayA .
visatantupraviShTa.n cha tatra apashyat shatakratum ..

anvayaH
tayA sahitA padmasya nAla.n bhittvA vivesha cha
cha tatra visatantupraviShTa.n shatakratum apashyat .

pratipadaarthaH
tayA=with her;
sahitA=together;
padmasya=of the lotus;
bhittvA=having split;
nAla.n=narrow stem;
vivesha=having entered;
cha=and;
visa-tantu-praviShTa.n=one who has entered the lotus stalk;
cha=and;
tatra=there;
shatakratum=Indra;
apashyat=saw;

anuvaadaH
Indraani together with her [Upashruti] , having split the narrow stalk of
the lotus and entered, saw Indra [the one who has entered the lotus stalk] 
there.





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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 5 Mar 2004 17:52:48 -0800 (PST)
From: Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Reg.  Hanuma's flights to Lanka
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Hanuma's flights to Lanka and back are eight times.

1] for searching Seehta - to and from -                                 2
2] for participating in war to and fro -                                    2
3] to fetch Sanjivini from Himalayaas, at the 
    advise of jaambavanta, when Rama &
    Lakshmana both fainted owing to brahmaastra of
    Indrajit [i.e., first time fainting of Lakshmana] - to and
    fro                                                  --                            
         2 
4] when Lakshmana alone fainted when Ravana uses
   shakti missile, and escapes from battle field, shusheNa
   advises to bring the same herbs, and aanjaneya brings
   for second time - to and fro                                                 2
 
No herb is specially broguht for Sugreeva when  he faints
at the blow of Ravana in the first part of war. We have to
 construe that he is up on his feet, when Hanuma brings
herbs for the first time, along with other vaanara-s.
 
Is this correct?
 
desiraju hanumanta rao


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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 10:07:16 -0800 (PST)
From: Vis Tekumalla <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Reg.  Hanuma's flights to Lanka
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Wouldn't 3 & 4 involve four crossings each?
For example for 3: 
to fetch Sanjivini from Himalayaas, at the advise of jaambavanta, when Rama & 
Lakshmana both fainted owing to brahmaastra of Indrajit [i.e., first time fainting of 
Lakshmana] - 
1. Hanuman had to first fly north crossing the ocean;
2. Then fly south with the mountain in his palm and had to cross the ocean again to 
reach the battlefield;
3. After the herbal treatment to Rama and Lakshmana, Hanuman had to fly north again 
(again crossing the ocean) to put the mountain back in its original place in the 
Himalayas.
4. And finally, after putting the mountain is back in its place, Hanuman had to fly 
south again (i.e., crossing the ocean for the 4th time on this particular mission) to 
get back to the battlefield.
 
Same 4 steps would have been involved under "4" too, i.e., when Lakshmana alone 
fainted when Ravana uses  shakti missile, and escapes from battle field, shusheNa  
advises to bring the same herbs, and aanjaneya brings  for second time.
 
That should make a total of 12 ocean crossings by Hanuman. What do you think?    
                                                  

Desiraju Hanumanta Rao <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Hanuma's flights to Lanka and back are eight times.

1] for searching Seehta - to and from -                                 2
2] for participating in war to and fro -                                   2
3] to fetch Sanjivini from Himalayaas, at the 
    advise of jaambavanta, when Rama &
    Lakshmana both fainted owing to brahmaastra of
    Indrajit [i.e., first time fainting of Lakshmana] - to and
    fro                                                  --                            
         2 
4] when Lakshmana alone fainted when Ravana uses
   shakti missile, and escapes from battle field, shusheNa
   advises to bring the same herbs, and aanjaneya brings
   for second time - to and fro                                                 2
 
No herb is specially broguht for Sugreeva when  he faints
at the blow of Ravana in the first part of war. We have to
construe that he is up on his feet, when Hanuma brings
herbs for the first time, along with other vaanara-s.
 
Is this correct?
 
desiraju hanumanta rao


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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 6 Mar 2004 23:00:58 -0800 (PST)
From: peekayar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Humour in grammer (5) - when PANini made a
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PANini who composed the aSTAdhyAyi found that no one could comprehend the various 
sUtras. He was searching for someone who could make a commentary on his works. One day 
when he was performing  sandhyaavandanam in the river, he took some water in his palm 
folded cup like. He was surprised to find a small snake in the palm. The following was 
the conversation between PANini and the snake.
 
PANini :  korbhavAn? (instead of ko bhavAn?) = who are
               you?
 
The snake:  sapoham. (instead of sarpoham) = I am a
                   snake.
 
PANini; rephaH kutaH? = Where has r gone?
 
The snake: tvayA apahR^itaH.= taken away by you.
 
In spite of creating a monumental work on grammer, PANini made a grammatical mistake. 
He asked the snake to declare its identity and knowing that it was AdisheSa himself, 
asked him to write the BhASya
for aSTAdhyAyi.
 
This is the only commentary in Sanskrit which has got the prefix MahA. So it came to 
be known as  MahAbhASya. 
 
The snake got the name Patanjali meaning that which fell on the palm. 
 
P.K.Ramakrishnan 






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Message: 6
Date: Sun,  7 Mar 2004 07:30:01 -0800 (PST)
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sai Susarla)
Subject: [Sanskrit] udyogaparvam - sarga 14 - 10
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shlokaH 10
ta.n dR^iShTvA cha susUkShmeNa rUpeNAvasthitaM prabhum .
sUkShmarUpadharA devI babhUvopashrutishcha sA .. 10..\

padavibhaagaH
ta.n dR^iShTvA cha susUkShmeNa rUpeNa avasthitaM prabhum .
sUkShmarUpadharA devI babhUva upashrutiH cha sA ..

anvayaH
ta.n susUkShmeNa rUpeNa avasthitaM prabhum dR^iShTvA cha
sA devI upashrutiH cha sUkShmarUpadharA babhUva.

pratipadaarthaH
ta.n=that;
susUkShmeNa=reduced in size;
rUpeNa=with form;
avasthitaM=situated;
prabhum=lord;
dR^iShTvA=having seen;
cha=and;
sA=she;
sUkShmarUpadharA=having a tiny size;
upashrutiH=Upashruti;
devI=Devi;
cha=and;
babhUva=became;[lit lakaara, parasmaipadi, 3rd person singular]

anuvaadaH
Having seen the tiny form of her Lord Indra, she and Devi Upashruti
also became reduced in size.




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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 7 Mar 2004 13:19:04 -0700
From: Sai <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Humour in grammer (5) - when PANini made a
        mistake.
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ataH mama praSnaH:
 pataJNjali SabdaH katham viSleShaNIyaH ?
pat + anjaliH? chet, padanjaliH kimartham na bhavati?
pat sabdaH dhAtu rUpe asti kila?

tasya ko vigraha vAkyaH?
- Sai.

peekayar uvaacha:
> PANini who composed the aSTAdhyAyi found that no one could comprehend the various 
> sUtras. He was searching for someone who could make a commentary on his works. One 
> day when he was performing  sandhyaavandanam in the river, he took some water in his 
> palm folded cup like. He was surprised to find a small snake in the palm. The 
> following was the conversation between PANini and the snake.
>  
> PANini :  korbhavAn? (instead of ko bhavAn?) = who are
>                you?
>  
> The snake:  sapoham. (instead of sarpoham) = I am a
>                    snake.
>  
> PANini; rephaH kutaH? = Where has r gone?
>  
> The snake: tvayA apahR^itaH.= taken away by you.
>  
> In spite of creating a monumental work on grammer, PANini made a grammatical 
> mistake. He asked the snake to declare its identity and knowing that it was AdisheSa 
> himself, asked him to write the BhASya
> for aSTAdhyAyi.
>  
> This is the only commentary in Sanskrit which has got the prefix MahA. So it came to 
> be known as  MahAbhASya. 
>  
> The snake got the name Patanjali meaning that which fell on the palm. 
>  
> P.K.Ramakrishnan 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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