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1. Re: An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc. (thirunarayanan thirunarayanan)
2. Re: sanskrit Digest, Vol 53, Issue 4 (amit samel)
3. Vacaspati and other Sanskrit-Sanskrit dictionaries
(Phillip Ernest)
4. PITRI-PAKSHA ????-???? (Paulo Lyra)
5. Re: Plants in Megaduta (venkatesan narayanaswamy)
6. Re: Plants in Megaduta (venkatesan narayanaswamy)
7. Re: PITRI-PAKSHA ????-???? (Bhaskar Joshi)
8. Re: Plants in Megaduta (Bhaskar Joshi)
9. Re: PITRI-PAKSHA ????-???? (Naresh Cuntoor)
10. Re: An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc. (Gargeshwari Ajit)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 21:03:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: thirunarayanan thirunarayanan <rthirunaraya...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of
stotras, astakams, etc.
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Cc: default shiva <shivasau...@gmail.com>
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As shivaushadhi said it correctly thus:"?aSTakam means ?eight verses excluding
the phalashruti and it may contain more verses upto even ten or more and it is
a freedom to the composer acc. to?his/ her taste. but the title to the stotram
may be "aSTakam"?only.
R.Thirunarayanan, Ph.D. in Sanskrit
9786377018 Location:Srirangam India
--- On Thu, 17/9/09, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc.
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 8:12 PM
Namaskar,
Ever thankful am I to all of those who helped me understand the grammar of the
word shivaushadhi. I must once again admit that I am but a humble child in the
presence of the great intelligence of this community.
I am inquirying to better understand the classification of Stotras. It would be
most auspicious if anyone could assist me clarifying the differences &
definitions of the devotional hymns such as those of Adi Sankaracarya.
Am I correct to believe that the Kaalabhaiaravashtakam is called an Ashtakam
because Asta means 8 & it has 8 verses (plus the phalashruti)?
Does the term stotra define a hymn with specific number of verses, making it
different from an 8 versed Ashtakam Or does an Astakam fall under the category
of a Stotram?
I hope I am making sense, if not please pardon my ignorance.
If a Stotra is used as a sort of ?Umbrella Term? what are the requirements of a
hymn to become a stotra ? Are there ways to classify the different types of
hymns considered to be stotras? For instance in the same way that there are so
very many different types of Meters classified by chandas vedanga.
If I understand correctly the Vedas & even smriti texts follow the rules of
chandas but a stotra doesn't? I was hoping to discover if there was a way to
define the meters of a stotra & if there was an advanced classification system
that perhaps Adi Shankaracharya used to write his amazing hymns.
I trust that my inquiry is not to difficult to understand as I am having a hard
time comprehending the standards used for classification of devotional hymns &
the sacred texts.
I hope to utilize this information by amending it to a portion of my website
focused on helping individuals like myself, who have no guru or mandir outside
of the internet, understand the branches of vedanga via resources, references &
examples that I was not able to find elsewhere.
I think I understand the difference between Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans, (kirtans &
Zikrs which aren't hindu, or are they?) & Stotra's. I would love to make a
comprehensive layout / list that showed the differences & parallels between the
many beautiful ways to express divinity through sound & rhythm.
Thank you so much for your patience & for your time. Blessings to the divine
beings which make up this great community,
-Shivaushadhi-
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 19 Sep 2009 02:06:19 -0700 (PDT)
From: amit samel <amitsa...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] sanskrit Digest, Vol 53, Issue 4
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Hello All,
???????????? I would like to know if anybody in the group is located in
Singapore. I am just trying to be in touch with people?of similar liking.
?
Amit Samel
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:38:07 +0900
From: Phillip Ernest <phillip.ern...@utoronto.ca>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Vacaspati and other Sanskrit-Sanskrit dictionaries
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Ciao dotti.
I've been thinking that when I have finished reading through the BORI
Mahabharata in a few months I would like to stop using the Apte
Sanskrit-English dictionary and take up a Sanskrit-Sanskrit one. When
I was in Cambridge I used to have access to the huge Vacaspati
dictionary but I don't own it and I can't do my daily reading in the
BORI library. So I'm wondering if there is a smaller newer edition of
the Vacaspati, like the nice photographically reduced complete Apte
and Monier Williams dictionaries that one can get nowadays from
Motilal Banarsidas (that's the Apte I use at home) and some Japanese
publisher, or are there other good Sanskrit-Sanskrit dictionaries that
I could find in the Pune Sanskrit bookshops?
Phillip
Pune
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 10:01:44 -0300
From: Paulo Lyra <paul.ly...@globo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] PITRI-PAKSHA ????-????
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Dear members,
What?s the correct pronunciation of the word Pit? - pitR^i ? ???? (Is
that Pitri or Pitru?)
Whenever appears the letter ? should it be always pronounced as U ???
Any help and explanation would be welcome.
SGMKJ, Paulo Lyra
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:21:37 +0000
From: venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Smt. Vimala, Thanks to paul (yarz...@yahoo.com)
, I was able to open the fie. May Si Rama bless you
V.Narayanaswamy Fullerton CA
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 18:13:59 +1000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
I don't seem to have that problem. I wonder if it is your
browser? The slokas are written in devanagari script. Can you at least hear
the
meter, see the watercolours, and see the English translation?
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of venkatesan
narayanaswamy
Sent: Thursday, 17 September 2009 11:38 PM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
When I tried to go to the site
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
suggested by yoy, I get a series of smal squares. From your description the
site should be remarkable. Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you
V.Narayanaswamy
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
Please
check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta by
K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or tree in
watercolour, chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and
Japanese. It uses multimedia and you would need to click on each
plant on the margin at the left to get each verse.
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
It
is delightful - she is very talented.
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
[Moderator's note]
This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this thread.
I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
Thanks,
Naresh
On
Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
jai
gurudev
shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
this is scientifically proven fact.
i
do not feel offended by u.
but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
u know the answer.
i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
om shakti
On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com>
wrote:
> Dear Gopal - Ji
> Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in a
> good-natured spirit.
> I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
group,
> instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
> "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit
different
> religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below!
Science is all
> things to all people!
> Regards
> I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
> Vimala
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On
> Behalf Of gopal narayan
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>
> jai gurudev
>
> mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
> of shakti.
>
> shakti is real,trth and provable god.
>
> the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
>
> she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
>
> so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
> energy,
> rudra-destructive energy.
>
> sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
>
> this is scientifically proven fact.
>
>
>
>
> om shakti
>
> gopal
>
>
>
> On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hari Om dear members.
> >
> > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
knowledgeable
> > members can kindly enlighten me:
> >
> > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see
in different places
> > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
they
> > listed?
> >
> > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several
confusing pieces of
> > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
commentary
> > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent
books
> > with the same name?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Gurudeva Dasi.
> > _______________________________________________
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 15:23:45 +0000
From: venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To: <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Sir, Thanks to your suuggestion. I was able to open the file and go through
it. May God bless you V.Narayanaswamy Fullerton CA
Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:18:07 -0700
From: yarz...@yahoo.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To view the site, you have to change the character encoding of your browser to
UTF-16 (in firefox in the View menu). I remember years ago when studying this
poem asking for just such a resource as this but none were forthcoming. I'm
glad to have it now though! The recitation is great too.
From: Hari Sundar <hsun...@gmail.com>
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Sent: Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:23:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
I think the website is using some proprietary fonts ... It would be better if
Tamomi used unicode fonts.
~Hari
2009/9/17 venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
When I tried to go to the site
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/ suggested by yoy, I get a
series of smal squares. From your description the site should be remarkable.
Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you V.Narayanaswamy
From: vsa...@bigpond.com
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
Please
check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta
by K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or
tree in watercolour, chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and
Japanese. It uses multimedia and you would need to click on each plant
on the margin at the left to get each verse.
http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
It
is delightful - she is very talented.
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On Behalf Of Naresh Cuntoor
Sent: Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
[Moderator's note]
This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this thread.
I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
Thanks,
Naresh
On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
wrote:
jai gurudev
shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
this is scientifically proven fact.
i do not feel offended by u.
but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
u know the answer.
i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
om shakti
On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com>
wrote:
> Dear Gopal - Ji
> Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in a
> good-natured spirit.
> I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
group,
> instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
> "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit
different
> religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below!
Science is all
> things to all people!
> Regards
> I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
> Vimala
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu
[mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
On
> Behalf Of gopal narayan
> Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>
> jai gurudev
>
> mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
> of shakti.
>
> shakti is real,trth and provable god.
>
> the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
>
> she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
>
> so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
> energy,
> rudra-destructive energy.
>
> sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
>
> this is scientifically proven fact.
>
>
>
>
> om shakti
>
> gopal
>
>
>
> On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > Hari Om dear members.
> >
> > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
knowledgeable
> > members can kindly enlighten me:
> >
> > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see
in different places
> > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
they
> > listed?
> >
> > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several
confusing pieces of
> > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
commentary
> > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent books
> > with the same name?
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > Gurudeva Dasi.
> > _______________________________________________
> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or customize your subscription or topics of interest,
visit
> > http://mailman.cs.utah.edu/mailman/options/sanskrit
> > and follow instructions.
> >
> >
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:01:28 +0530
From: Bhaskar Joshi <bjo...@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] PITRI-PAKSHA ????-????
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the pronunciation would be Pitru only. it is true whenever appears, the
letter ? should it be always pronounced as U
AUM
2009/9/20 Paulo Lyra <paul.ly...@globo.com>
> Dear members,
> What?s the correct pronunciation of the word Pit? - pitR^i ? ???? (Is
> that Pitri or Pitru?)
> Whenever appears the letter ? should it be always pronounced as U ???
> Any help and explanation would be welcome.
> SGMKJ, Paulo Lyra
>
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 21:17:49 +0530
From: Bhaskar Joshi <bjo...@pobox.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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my revered namaskaar to all the participants in this thread. i was deprived
of the sheer pleasure of it, till i opened the file in IE8 (i was till now
struggling to open it in Firefox). once accessible it was a joy, the audio
is also very clear.
many thanks to Tamomi for excellent piece of work and Vimalaji for bringing
it to our notice.
AUM
2009/9/18 venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
> Sir, Thanks to your suuggestion. I was able to open the file and go
> through it. May God bless you V.Narayanaswamy Fullerton CA
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 18 Sep 2009 00:18:07 -0700
> From: yarz...@yahoo.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
>
> To view the site, you have to change the character encoding of your browser
> to UTF-16 (in firefox in the View menu). I remember years ago when studying
> this poem asking for just such a resource as this but none were forthcoming.
> I'm glad to have it now though! The recitation is great too.
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Hari Sundar <hsun...@gmail.com>
> *To:* Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
> *Sent:* Thursday, September 17, 2009 7:23:31 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
>
> I think the website is using some proprietary fonts ... It would be better
> if Tamomi used unicode fonts.
>
> ~Hari
>
> 2009/9/17 venkatesan narayanaswamy <veey...@hotmail.com>
>
> When I tried to go to the site
> http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/ suggested by yoy, I get
> a series of smal squares. From your description the site should be
> remarkable. Any suggestions? May Sri Rama bless you V.Narayanaswamy
>
> ------------------------------
> From: vsa...@bigpond.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Date: Thu, 17 Sep 2009 18:26:33 +1000
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Plants in Megaduta
>
>
> Please check out this website. It is really unique. My fellow-student
> Tamomi Sato has identified all references to plants in the poem Megad?ta by
> K?lid?sa. For each sloka she has painted the plant or tree in watercolour,
> chanted the metre, and translated it into both English and Japanese. It
> uses multimedia and you would need to click on each plant on the margin at
> the left to get each verse.
> http://www.anu.edu.au/asianstudies/data/meghaduta/
> It is delightful - she is very talented.
> Vimala
>
> *From:* sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
> *On Behalf Of *Naresh Cuntoor
> *Sent:* Wednesday, 16 September 2009 9:49 PM
> *To:* Sanskrit Mailing List
> *Subject:* Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
>
>
> [Moderator's note]
>
> This is clearly beyond the scope of this list. So I am closing this thread.
>
> I request list members not to send any emails regarding this discussion.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Naresh
>
> On Wed, Sep 16, 2009 at 3:51 AM, gopal narayan <gopalnarayan...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> jai gurudev
>
> shakti is all that exists,and is all the gods and goddesses.
>
> we r also part of adi shakti param prakruti.
>
>
> this is scientifically proven fact.
> i do not feel offended by u.
>
> but will christians/muslims take this in same spirit ???
>
> u know the answer.
>
> i am all for love peace nuke disarmament and world peace.
>
>
>
> om shakti
>
>
>
> On 9/16/09, Vimala Sarma <vsa...@bigpond.com> wrote:
> > Dear Gopal - Ji
> > Please do not be offended by these comments because they are intended in
> a
> > good-natured spirit.
> > I hope this is group is not going to turn into yet another religious
> group,
> > instead of a group interested in serious Sanskrit study. Just replace
> > "Sakti" below with Jesus, Allah, Shiva, etc and it would suit different
> > religions. I could not help smiling at the last line below! Science is
> all
> > things to all people!
> > Regards
> > I remain a hopeless iconoclast!
> > Vimala
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu]
> On
> > Behalf Of gopal narayan
> > Sent: Tuesday, 15 September 2009 6:02 PM
> > To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> > Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Shakta Scriptures
> >
> > jai gurudev
> >
> > mother shakti is all that exists,ie all the matter is just a part
> > of shakti.
> >
> > shakti is real,trth and provable god.
> >
> > the word is her,and she is shabdatmika.
> >
> > she is there before creation when time matter and space did not exist.
> >
> > so all agam r her only.she is brahma-creative energy,vishnu-protective
> > energy,
> > rudra-destructive energy.
> >
> > sun,moon,stars,all that exists is her,she is us and we r her.
> >
> > this is scientifically proven fact.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > om shakti
> >
> > gopal
> >
> >
> >
> > On 9/15/09, Guru deva dasi <gurudevad...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hari Om dear members.
> > >
> > > I have 2 questions re. the Shakta literature, if any of the
> knowledgeable
> > > members can kindly enlighten me:
> > >
> > > 1. How many shakta agamas are there? I can see in different
> places
> > > different numbers (usually alternating between 27 and 77)? Where are
> they
> > > listed?
> > >
> > > 2. The 'Ishvara-samhita'- I saw several confusing pieces of
> > > information about it. Is it considered as shakta agama? Or as a
> commentary
> > > on Vaishnava samhitas? Does it have a few versions? A few dofferent
> books
> > > with the same name?
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> > > Gurudeva Dasi.
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 12:23:24 -0400
From: Naresh Cuntoor <nares...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] PITRI-PAKSHA ????-????
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Dear Paulo,
R^i is a different svara. So pitR^i is not pronounced as pitri or pitru
The leading sound in R^i is a vowel (sounds like uh) .. then there is
the 'r' sound that morphs into another vowel sound (uh). I should
mention that I use 'uh' as it is used in spoken English (e.g., 'Uh,
what was that again?'), not the visarga sound.
ru starts with a 'r' sound and continues to an 'u' vowel.
Similarly, ri starts with a 'r' sound and continues to an 'i' vowel.
pitR^i sounds like pitr-uh (the uh as in spoken English).
Naresh
2009/9/20 Paulo Lyra <paul.ly...@globo.com>:
> Dear members,
> What?s the correct pronunciation of the word Pit? - pitR^i ? ???? (Is
> that Pitri or Pitru?)
> Whenever appears the letter ? should it be always pronounced as U ???
> Any help and explanation would be welcome.
> SGMKJ, Paulo Lyra
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 20 Sep 2009 22:54:46 +0530 (IST)
From: Gargeshwari Ajit <ajitga_...@yahoo.co.in>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of
stotras, astakams, etc.
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Just to add to what has been explained any sanskrit devotinal poem can become a
stotra depending on what reverence it creates in the chanters mind. When one
uses the word hymns in sanskrit translations it?generally refers to spontanious
outpourings from a poets heart and?generally they do follow the rules of
sankrit prosody.? Normally the word "hymns" are used for vedic verses only.
?
What is Shivaushadhi's?defenition for the terms "Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans?I
feel? all these words are synonyms in normal day to day usages."
Regards
Ajit
--- On Sun, 20/9/09, thirunarayanan thirunarayanan <rthirunaraya...@yahoo.com>
wrote:
From: thirunarayanan thirunarayanan <rthirunaraya...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc.
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
Cc: "default shiva" <shivasau...@gmail.com>
Date: Sunday, 20 September, 2009, 9:33 AM
As shivaushadhi said it correctly thus:"?aSTakam means ?eight verses excluding
the phalashruti and it may contain more verses upto even ten or more and it is
a freedom to the composer acc. to?his/ her taste. but the title to the stotram
may be "aSTakam"?only.
R.Thirunarayanan, Ph.D. in Sanskrit
9786377018 Location:Srirangam India
--- On Thu, 17/9/09, default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com> wrote:
From: default siva <shivausha...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] An inquiry regarding the classification of stotras,
astakams, etc.
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thursday, 17 September, 2009, 8:12 PM
Namaskar,
Ever thankful am I to all of those who helped me understand the grammar of the
word shivaushadhi. I must once again admit that I am but a humble child in the
presence of the great intelligence of this community.
I am inquirying to better understand the classification of Stotras. It would be
most auspicious if anyone could assist me clarifying the differences &
definitions of the devotional hymns such as those of Adi Sankaracarya.
Am I correct to believe that the Kaalabhaiaravashtakam is called an Ashtakam
because Asta means 8 & it has 8 verses (plus the phalashruti)?
Does the term stotra define a hymn with specific number of verses, making it
different from an 8 versed Ashtakam Or does an Astakam fall under the category
of a Stotram?
I hope I am making sense, if not please pardon my ignorance.
If a Stotra is used as a sort of ?Umbrella Term? what are the requirements of a
hymn to become a stotra ? Are there ways to classify the different types of
hymns considered to be stotras? For instance in the same way that there are so
very many different types of Meters classified by chandas vedanga.
If I understand correctly the Vedas & even smriti texts follow the rules of
chandas but a stotra doesn't? I was hoping to discover if there was a way to
define the meters of a stotra & if there was an advanced classification system
that perhaps Adi Shankaracharya used to write his amazing hymns.
I trust that my inquiry is not to difficult to understand as I am having a hard
time comprehending the standards used for classification of devotional hymns &
the sacred texts.
I hope to utilize this information by amending it to a portion of my website
focused on helping individuals like myself, who have no guru or mandir outside
of the internet, understand the branches of vedanga via resources, references &
examples that I was not able to find elsewhere.
I think I understand the difference between Slokas, Stutis, Bhajans, (kirtans &
Zikrs which aren't hindu, or are they?) & Stotra's. I would love to make a
comprehensive layout / list that showed the differences & parallels between the
many beautiful ways to express divinity through sound & rhythm.
Thank you so much for your patience & for your time. Blessings to the divine
beings which make up this great community,
-Shivaushadhi-
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