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Today's Topics:
1. Scripts (R. Jambunathan)
2. Re: Scripts (Vimala Sarma)
3. Re: another puzzle (Karthikeyan Madathil)
4. Re: Request for 'Easier Texts' (Resources) (Shobha Saraiya)
5. MOTHERS DIVINE - AATHREYA (BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju)
6. Re - Srushttikramam - Translation (BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju)
7. Tonal values of Devanagari vowels and consonants
(Krishnanand Mankikar)
8. Re: another puzzle (Shreyas P. Munshi)
9. Re: He and I (anupam srivatsav)
10. Re: another puzzle (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
11. Re: another puzzle (Balaji)
12. A poet's message to the king. (P.K.Ramakrishnan)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 16:26:29 -0500
From: "R. Jambunathan" <jamb...@uwosh.edu>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Scripts
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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I just fed in Sri Naresh Vontoor' script at this site with this
result- I didn't check. This site, following some simple instructions,
will provide the correct devanagari script. Noyhing to remember or
install. I hope our members will mkeuse fthis. just copy and paste!
rAtrir-gamiShyati bhaviShyati suprabhAtaM
bhAsvAn udeShyati hasiShyati paMkajashrIH |
itthaM vichintayati koshagate dvirephe
hA hanta hanta nalinIM gaja ujjahAra ||
???????-???????? ????????
?????????
??????? ???????? ????????
????????? |
????? ?????????? ??????
????????
?? ???? ???? ?????M ??
??????? ||
Regards,
?????????
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:04:54 +1100
From: "Vimala Sarma" <vsa...@bigpond.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Scripts
To: "'Sanskrit Mailing List'" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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What site are you referring to? Can you please provide the link?
Vimala
From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
Behalf Of R. Jambunathan
Sent: Friday, 30 October 2009 8:26 AM
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Subject: [Sanskrit] Scripts
I just fed in Sri Naresh Vontoor' script at this site with this result- I
didn't check. This site, following some simple instructions, will provide the
correct devanagari script. Noyhing to remember or install. I hope our members
will mkeuse fthis. just copy and paste!
rAtrir-gamiShyati bhaviShyati suprabhAtaM
bhAsvAn udeShyati hasiShyati paMkajashrIH |
itthaM vichintayati koshagate dvirephe
hA hanta hanta nalinIM gaja ujjahAra ||
???????-???????? ???????? ????????? ??????? ???????? ???????? ????????? | ?????
?????????? ?????? ???????? ?? ???? ???? ?????M ?? ??????? ||
Regards,
?????????
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 19:41:04 -0700 (PDT)
From: Karthikeyan Madathil <kmadat...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Attempted solution (with some guesswork):
ke (saptami of kaM - water ) shavaM patitaM dR^isTvA
pAnDavA (vultures?) harshamAyuyuh
ruruduH kauravassarvA (crows?)
hA hA ke shava ke shava (pun on the sound of crows crowing?)
________________________________
From: P.K.Ramakrishnan <peeka...@yahoo.com>
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Sun, 25 October, 2009 2:10:29 PM
Subject: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
I had this in the draft mode.
keshavam pathitham drishtvaa
paandavaa harshamaayuyuh /
ruruduH kauravaassarve
haa haa keshava keshava //
Answer will be posted after two days.
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 29 Oct 2009 20:40:16 -0700 (PDT)
From: Shobha Saraiya <shobhy...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Request for 'Easier Texts' (Resources)
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Namaste all,
?
Have been following this thread for a while. From what I know and believe, I
think we have
benefited quite a bit from Max Muller.? He brought or at least introduced
Vedanta and Sanskrit to the West.
?
Initially when he started to learn about Hinduism and learning Sanskrit....he
might be little
prejudiced...but towards the end from what I know He was I feel in agreement
with Hindu philosophy.?
?
At least I don't think his intentions were to hurt the Hindu re legion or the
language. I tend to
agree with David regarding the statement below.
?
"I have never heard anything about Muller doing anything to purposely discredit
Hindu culture either."
?
Hari Om
shobha
--- On Thu, 10/29/09, DAVID MITCHELL <da1andonlys...@msn.com> wrote:
From: DAVID MITCHELL <da1andonlys...@msn.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Request for 'Easier Texts' (Resources)
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Thursday, October 29, 2009, 6:08 PM
Is it possible that it was Max Muller whom Hitler got his idea of an Aryan race
from? I'm not sure but I believe there was some conflict with regard to who the
Aryans were (if they were even a race of people) and I believe that Muller was
caught up in the conflict. I have never heard anything about Muller doing
anything to purposely discredit Hindu culture either.
David
> From: vsa...@bigpond.com
> To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
> Date: Tue, 27 Oct 2009 14:30:20 +1100
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Request for 'Easier Texts' (Resources)
>
> I am not sure that the passage you have referred us to, really supports the
> conclusion that Max Muller had a evangelical approach. Did he actually
> convert people to Christianity or not?
> Vimala
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu [mailto:sanskrit-boun...@cs.utah.edu] On
> Behalf Of Sudarshan Rao
> Sent: Tuesday, 27 October 2009 2:13 PM
> To: Sanskrit Mailing List
> Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] Request for 'Easier Texts' (Resources)
>
> I was perhaps remiss in bracketing Max Meuller with Monier Williams.
> The latter had a stronger evangelical approach. Those interested can
> go the site
> http://www.theosociety.org/pasadena/sunrise/55-05-6/ge-bas2.htm
> where some more information can be got.
> Sudarshan.
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 06:52:32 +0530
From: BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju
<dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramar...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] MOTHERS DIVINE - AATHREYA
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AATHREYA ? BRAHMIN NOBLE MOTHERS
Original Divine Mothers
SARASWATHI ? Mother of All Knowledge and 64 varieties of Arts
Ever Busy Educating All Humans. Knowledge is
Power.
GAAYATHRI ? Mother of All Riks = Manthras ? Expects All to
focus at least on Gaayathri Manthra , as this
Manthra is the
only wealth and power that one should desire
SAAVITHRI ? Resident Mother Energy of Solar System
First Human Mother DEVI SATHA ROOPA w / o Manu ( father of maanavas )
Satha Roopa had two sons and three daughters . Sons are ancestors of
Kshathriyas
Satha Roopa ?s Three Daughters are The Mothers Of Exclusively Brahmin Race
=
1. Devi Aakoothi w/o Ruchika Prajaapathi , parents of Rushis
2. Devi Prasoothi w/o Daksha Prajaapathi , parents of Praachethasas
3. Devi Devahoothi , w/o Kardama Prajaapathi , parents of Son Kapila
Mahaa Muni and Nine Girls , who married Nava Brahmas and are the parents
of all present day Brahmins
Maathru Sris that need to be mentioned are :
Devi Anasooya w/o Athri Mahaa Muni
Devi Arundhathi w/o Brahmarshi Vasishtta
Devi Lopaamudra w/o Agasthya Maharshi
Devi Sukanya w/o Chyavana ( known for Chyavana praasa )
Some controversial Ladies like Ahalya., ( excuse me Mother ) who am I to
judge.
Some women difficult to manage like Kandali Aurvi , w/o Doorvaasa and they
separated amicably .
I am sure there must be many more noble Mothers , not known to AATHREYA
Maa Vidvishaa Vahai = Pardon my ignorance and please don?t be upset with me.
Om Shaanthi Sarvathra Shaanthi . Sarve Janaah Sukhino
Bhavnthu .
aathreya- dr.bala krishna murthy ramaraju
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 07:42:17 +0530
From: BalaKrishnaMurthy Ramaraju
<dr.balakrishnamurthy.ramar...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Re - Srushttikramam - Translation
To: tpatel_2...@hotmail.com
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Beginning of Creation - There are only Two - Primordial Energy and
Primordial Inert Matter
Mutual Attraction of these two - result Big Bang - Beginning Of Craetion
Result - All Inclusive Supreme Appearance - Viraat Purush
>From Viraat Purush - There Appeared First Father Of All Creation - Aadya
Brahma
>From Right Shoulder Of Aadya Brahma - Swayambhoo Manu - maanavas
>From Left Shoulder of Aadya Brahma _ Satha Roopa Devei - Multi Resplendant
Lady
Manu and Satharoopa - Parents of Humanity
aathreya- dr.bala krishna murthy ramaraju
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:22:19 +0530
From: Krishnanand Mankikar <kdmanki...@gmail.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] Tonal values of Devanagari vowels and consonants
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Dear friends,
I have read somewhere that Devanagari vowels and consonants have certain
frequencies and it is also said that the mantras which are "effectively
refined" (i.e. made 'siddha') by the ancient sages, have a specific effect
if uttered correctly.
I shall be grateful if our members guide me to any literature on this, if
available.
Thanks and Regards,
K.D.Mankikar
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Message: 8
Date: 30 Oct 2009 06:48:34 -0000
From: "Shreyas P. Munshi" <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: <bal...@balaji27.freeserve.co.uk>
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
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Shri Balaji Sir,
As our teacher had said 60 years ago, the erms i the puzzle ave the following
meanings:
ke= in water
shava=dead body
Pandava= creatures living nwaier
Kaurava= crows
The meaning would now be clear "the crows crying why deadbody fell in water".
...Shreyas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:25:00 +0530 wrote
>
Dear Peekay,
Please post the answer for this puzzle. How do you
expect the Pandavas to laugh at the falling Krishna whereas Kauravas are
weeping
over this? Surely there is a catch!?
I can't wait for the solution.
Regards
Balaji
----- Original Message -----
From:
P.K.Ramakrishnan
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:40
AM
Subject: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
>
I had this in the draft mode.
>
>keshavam
pathitham drishtvaa
>paandavaa harshamaayuyuh /
>ruruduH
kauravaassarve
>haa haa keshava keshava //
>
>Answer will be
posted after two
days.
>
>-----------------------------------
>P.K.
Ramakrishnan
>http://peekayar.blogspot.com
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 14:12:20 +0530
From: anupam srivatsav <anupam.srivat...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] He and I
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Dear Naresh,
Namaste dhanyavaadaah ca.
> saH cha ahaM cha AvAm iti ekasheShaM kRutvA, 'AvAM agachChAva' iti gaNayituM
> shakyate iti mama matam.
ekasheSha.m bhavatu naama. Rama, aham ca gachaava.h athava rama, aham
ca gachatah va?
etasya kim bhavishyati?
saprema namaskarah
Anupam
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 16:01:32 +0530 (IST)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <peeka...@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: Sanskrit Mailing List <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Solved--
ke = in water
shavam = dead body
patitham drishtvaa = seeing falling
paandavaaH = whites = white cranes
harshamaayuyuh or harshanirbharaaH = were happy. (because they can the body)
ruruduh = cried
kauravaaH = those with wicked voices = jackals/foxes
sarve = all
ha ha keshava keshava = dead body in water, dead body in water.
(because they cannot reach the body in water)
-----------------------------------
P.K. Ramakrishnan
http://peekayar.blogspot.com
--- On Fri, 30/10/09, Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: bal...@balaji27.freeserve.co.uk
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Friday, 30 October, 2009, 12:18 PM
Shri Balaji Sir,
As our teacher had said 60 years ago, the erms i the puzzle ave the following
meanings:
ke= in water
shava=dead body
Pandava= creatures living nwaier
Kaurava= crows
The meaning would now be clear "the crows crying why deadbody fell in water".
...Shreyas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:25:00 +0530 wrote
>
Dear Peekay,
Please post the answer for this puzzle. How do you
expect the Pandavas to laugh at the falling Krishna whereas Kauravas are
weeping
over this? Surely there is a catch!?
I can't wait for the solution.
Regards
Balaji
----- Original Message -----
From:
P.K.Ramakrishnan
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:40
AM
Subject: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
>
I had this in the draft mode.
>
>keshavam
pathitham drishtvaa
>paandavaa harshamaayuyuh /
>ruruduH
kauravaassarve
>haa haa keshava keshava //
>
>Answer will be
posted after two
days.
>
>-----------------------------------
>P.K.
Ramakrishnan
>http://peekayar.blogspot.com
>
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:47:50 -0000
From: "Balaji" <bal...@balaji27.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: "Sanskrit Mailing List" <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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Now it is all so simple after the explanations given by the learned members.
Please keep more of them coming in! The nectar of Sanskrit is so great.
Balaji
----- Original Message -----
From: P.K.Ramakrishnan
To: Sanskrit Mailing List
Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 10:31 AM
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
Solved--
ke = in water
shavam = dead body
patitham drishtvaa = seeing falling
paandavaaH = whites = white cranes
harshamaayuyuh or harshanirbharaaH = were happy. (because they can the
body)
ruruduh = cried
kauravaaH = those with wicked voices = jackals/foxes
sarve = all
ha ha keshava keshava = dead body in water, dead body in water.
(because they cannot reach the body in water)
-----------------------------------
P.K. Ramakrishnan
http://peekayar.blogspot.com
--- On Fri, 30/10/09, Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
wrote:
From: Shreyas P. Munshi <shreyasmun...@rediffmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
To: bal...@balaji27.freeserve.co.uk
Cc: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Date: Friday, 30 October, 2009, 12:18 PM
Shri Balaji Sir,
As our teacher had said 60 years ago, the erms i the puzzle ave the
following meanings:
ke= in water
shava=dead body
Pandava= creatures living nwaier
Kaurava= crows
The meaning would now be clear "the crows crying why deadbody fell in
water".
...Shreyas
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009 23:25:00 +0530 wrote
>
Dear Peekay,
Please post the answer for this puzzle. How do you
expect the Pandavas to laugh at the falling Krishna whereas Kauravas
are weeping
over this? Surely there is a catch!?
I can't wait for the solution.
Regards
Balaji
----- Original Message -----
From:
P.K.Ramakrishnan
To: sanskrit@cs.utah.edu
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:40
AM
Subject: [Sanskrit] another puzzle
>
I had this in the draft mode.
>
>keshavam
pathitham drishtvaa
>paandavaa harshamaayuyuh /
>ruruduH
kauravaassarve
>haa haa keshava keshava //
>
>Answer will be
posted after two
days.
>
>-----------------------------------
>P.K.
Ramakrishnan
>http://peekayar.blogspot.com
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 19:29:54 +0530 (IST)
From: "P.K.Ramakrishnan" <peeka...@yahoo.com>
Subject: [Sanskrit] A poet's message to the king.
To: sanskrit digest <sanskrit@cs.utah.edu>
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bhaTTirnashTO?
bhAravIyOpi nashtO
bhikshurnashTO bhImasenOpi nashTaH? /
?
bhukkunDOham bhUpatistvam hi rAjan
bhabbhA paddhatimantakassannivishTaH //
?
God of death is ascending the steps like
bha, bhA, bhi, bhI, bhu and bhU.
?
The poet BhaTTi is gone, BhAravi is gone,
bhikshu is gone, bhImasEna is also gone.
I, bhukkunDa is going. Oh bhUpati,
your turn will be coming.
?
This verse was addressed to the king who had
punished the poet bhukkunDa to death for
some misbehavior.
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After hearing this the king let off bhukkunDa.
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P.K. Ramakrishnan
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