Maybe it is just me, but some of these things are still confusing. I can look at all the documentation I can find and I am still not seeing answers to some of the questions I have. If nobody else has these questions, I apologize. I'll just answer these for myself in the fullness of time. However, I doubt that I am the only one who finds some of this to be not obvious.

I started with the present http://www.scratchbox.org/documentation/ user/scratchbox-1.0/html/installdoc.html and added info to the wiki pages at http://www.scratchbox.org/wiki/ScratchboxInstallation and http://www.scratchbox.org/wiki/ScratchboxTargetConfiguration. A lot of that is just going through the motions, though. These steps seem to work, but I have not seen any information as to why.

Looking at files in the directory: http://scratchbox.org/download/ files/sbox-releases/apophis/tarball/

scratchbox-core-1.0.6-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-core-1.0.7-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-core-1.0.8-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-core-1.0.9-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-core-1.0.10-i386.tar.gz

A lot of things have these versions. What do they correspond to? Looking at pages such as http://www.scratchbox.org/download/ scratchbox-0.9.5.html, I see no correspondence between how versions on that list and the available files. On the "Scratchbox 0.9.5" page, one sees:

# gcc-2.95.3 + 40 patches, glibc-2.2.4, binutils-2.12.1 to be used for compiling kernels
        # gcc-3.2.3, glibc-2.3.2, binutils-2.13.2.1 for non-kernel compilations

So, would these correspond to scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc- i386-1.0.4-i386.tar.gz or to scratchbox-toolchain-cs2005q3.2-glibc- i386-1.0.5-i386.tar.gz? Is there any connection at all between the versions numbers described in the documentation on scratchbox.org and the file sets that are made available? How does one find such a connection?

Ok, so assuming "later" means "better", one can just pick the latest versions. Is that the best thing to do?

What about these?

scratchbox-toolchain-arm-linux-2007q1-21-1.0.7-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-toolchain-arm-linux-cs344-2.3-1.0.4-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-toolchain-arm-linux-ct401-2.3-1.0.4-i386.tar.gz

and

scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.4-uclibc0.9.28-1.0.4-i386.tar.gz
scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc4.1-uclibc20061004-1.0.4-i386.tar.gz

One has "uclibc" and "0.9.28" and "uclibc" and a date, "0061004". So does "0.9.28" mean September 28, 2000? Presumably this version of the compiler does not date from the Roman empire. And what are "ct" and "cs" and 2007Q1 is when a company would have reported their income to the SEC. Is it also a compiler version?

And we have scratchbox-devkit-apt-https-1.0.3-i386.tar.gz.

Why would apt and https go together? Why not git and https? Why not perl and https? Is any of this documented, or is the way to find out to look at all the source code?

The installdoc.html says things like:

        Base (required):
              scratchbox-core - environment, common tools and host compiler
scratchbox-libs - libraries required by core, devkits and toolchains
        Development kits (optional):
scratchbox-devkit-debian - environment and tools for Debian development
              scratchbox-devkit-doctools - document generation tools
              scratchbox-devkit-perl - additional Perl modules
        Toolchains (optional):
              scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.3-glibc2.3
             scratchbox-toolchain-i686-gcc3.3-glibc2.3
              scratchbox-toolchain-arm-gcc3.2-uclibc20040229
             scratchbox-toolchain-i386-gcc3.2-uclibc20040229

So helpful. Yes, the toolchains are optional, but is there really no documentation on why one would choose one and not the other.

Are these things just obvious to everyone else using the tools? Where can one find these things out?

Any suggestions are welcome. Or, there is a wiki. One that anyone can add information to, anytime they want.

cheers - ray


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