Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: "fatal error" reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2016-11-10 Thread christopher-heckman
Janek Warchoł wrote
> 2012/1/12 -Eluze 

> eluzew@

> :
>> the word error should be reserved for severe situations, there are other
>> words to direct the attention to such discrepancies. for the actual
>> "error"
>> a pointer, a note or another kind of message would suffice.
> 
> I think it would be more informative it this was a Warning, not an
> Error.  Especially
> 
> fatal error: failed files [..]
> 
> is misleading in my opinion.

I concur. "Warning: Version not found" explains what is going on, much
better.

As Gus Baird once said, when something goes wrong in a program, you should
inform a user in the least surprising way.

--- Christopher Heckman




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Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: fatal error reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2012-01-15 Thread Janek Warchoł
2012/1/12 -Eluze elu...@gmail.com:
 the word error should be reserved for severe situations, there are other
 words to direct the attention to such discrepancies. for the actual error
 a pointer, a note or another kind of message would suffice.

I think it would be more informative it this was a Warning, not an
Error.  Especially

fatal error: failed files [..]

is misleading in my opinion.

Janek

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Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: fatal error reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2012-01-12 Thread -Eluze


lilypond-4 wrote:
 
 Updates:
   Status: Invalid
 
 Comment #1 on issue 2214 by gra...@percival-music.ca: fatal error  
 reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated
 
 This is deliberate to avoid misunderstandings in environments like  
 frescobaldi and related lilypond IDEs.  You'll note that we create  
 the .pdf even though it reports an error.
 
 
unbelievable! and even fatal!

that's the wrong way around - do you believe anybody is going to check the
log anymore?
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Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: fatal error reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2012-01-12 Thread Graham Percival
On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 02:29:05AM -0800, -Eluze wrote:
 
 lilypond-4 wrote:
  This is deliberate to avoid misunderstandings in environments like  
  frescobaldi and related lilypond IDEs.  You'll note that we create  
  the .pdf even though it reports an error.

 unbelievable! and even fatal!
 
 that's the wrong way around - do you believe anybody is going to check the
 log anymore?

huh?

If we *don't* display an error, nobody on windows or osx is going
to check the log.  That's precisely why we show an error, so that
GUI programs will (hopefully) direct the user's attention to that
log.

What's the big deal?  If this bothers you, just make sure you
write the correct version numbers.  If you only use 2.14.0 syntax,
then write 2.14.0 instead of 2.15.26.

- Graham

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Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: fatal error reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2012-01-12 Thread -Eluze


Graham Percival-3 wrote:
 
 On Thu, Jan 12, 2012 at 02:29:05AM -0800, -Eluze wrote:
 
 lilypond-4 wrote:
  This is deliberate to avoid misunderstandings in environments like  
  frescobaldi and related lilypond IDEs.  You'll note that we create  
  the .pdf even though it reports an error.

 unbelievable! and even fatal!
 
 that's the wrong way around - do you believe anybody is going to check
 the
 log anymore?
 
 huh?
 
 If we *don't* display an error, nobody on windows or osx is going
 to check the log.  That's precisely why we show an error, so that
 GUI programs will (hopefully) direct the user's attention to that
 log.
 
 What's the big deal?  If this bothers you, just make sure you
 write the correct version numbers.  If you only use 2.14.0 syntax,
 then write 2.14.0 instead of 2.15.26.
 

the word error should be reserved for severe situations, there are other
words to direct the attention to such discrepancies. for the actual error
a pointer, a note or another kind of message would suffice.

I often compare the result of the newest version with an older one and to do
that I would always have to change the version number.

and I also have an own environment which after compilation checks the log
for errors and warnings in different languages. if such are found the log is
displayed instead of the pdf/png.

so it would be nice to keep the words error and warning associated with
serious matters!

cheers
Eluze



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Re: Issue 2214 in lilypond: fatal error reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

2012-01-11 Thread lilypond

Updates:
Status: Invalid

Comment #1 on issue 2214 by gra...@percival-music.ca: fatal error  
reported when version is too old but correct output is still generated

http://code.google.com/p/lilypond/issues/detail?id=2214

This is deliberate to avoid misunderstandings in environments like  
frescobaldi and related lilypond IDEs.  You'll note that we create  
the .pdf even though it reports an error.



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