Re: [CentOS-docs] Create page about rebuilding SRPMS and preparing RPM environment

2008-07-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alan Bartlett wrote:
 On 11/07/2008, Ralph Angenendt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 
  Alan Bartlett wrote:
   By all means refer to it but please do not modify it.
 
  Why?
 
 Because a considerable amount of work has been put into maintaining the
 three inter-related pages (of which that is one) and they are currently
 maintained.

So? That shoudln't/doesn't keep others from improving those pages and
the wiki.

   Once those pages are done, the page on building the kernel may refer
to that one for the generic instructions on how to set up rpm building
environment.
  
   No.
 
  Again: Why?
 
 Think about it, Ralph.

I did. It's a wiki. So anyone who wants to improve on a page is invited to
do so. Sure, if someone is maintaining that page those people should
work together. But I really did not expect a No. without any
explanation here.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] How can I automate random bytes generation for CENTOS 5.2?

2008-07-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Tolun ARDAHANLI wrote:
 I want that every time the random bytes are prepared and waiting for use for
 gpg.

How often do you create a new gpg key?

And please trim your mails.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] How can I automate random bytes generation for CENTOS 5.2?

2008-07-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Tolun ARDAHANLI wrote:
 It can be created every second... Cause we do not know when the users want
 to create these own keys...

Then they have to wait - or look why your system doesn't have a big
enough entropy pool.

What does cat /proc/sys/kernel/random/entropy_avail say?

You need a enough randomness to create gpg keys.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] UTF-8 support in PCRE

2008-07-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Amitava Shee wrote:
 The issue is in CentOS 5. I ran the application successfully in Ubuntu 8.04.
 
 
 PCRE in CentOS does not have unicode properties enabled. 

So it's not utf-8 support which is missing.

 Is there a way to enable these options (without the usual ./configure make)?

Rebuild the src.rpm with the correct features enabled and/or file a bug
upstream at http://bugzilla.redhat.com/.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Total lockup caused by Shift-{print screen}

2008-07-09 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Robert Nichols wrote:
 System is CentOS 5.2 fully updated on an Intel i686.

 Suggestions about what component should receive the bugzilla report
 are welcome.

Are you able to recreate it? It happened to me once, I've never seen the
issue again after that.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] UTF-8 support in PCRE

2008-07-08 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Amitava Shee wrote:
 Yes, building from source will work. I just want to know if there is a
 package (in some yum repository) somewhere so that updates, patches etc.
 gets applied with yum update. It would be nice to do something like
 
 yum install pcre-utf8

Again - and I'm going to type this very slowly: The supplied pcre which
is *IN* CentOS *IS* built with UTF-8 support. 

And: Your problem has *nothing* to do with pcre, your problem lies
*within* the iconv library.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] UTF-8 support in PCRE

2008-07-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Amitava Shee wrote:
 On Fri, Jul 4, 2008 at 5:29 AM, Ralph Angenendt
 [EMAIL PROTECTED][EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
  Amitava Shee wrote:
   How do I get utf-8 support with PCRE?
 
  a) What does that have to do with pcre? (which can do UTF-8)
 
 
 [Shee] Zend lucene search engine uses pcre and requires pcre to be compiled
 with --enable-utf8. Please see
 http://framework.zend.com/manual/en/zend.search.lucene.charset.html#zend.search.lucene.charset.utf_analyzer
 
 UTF-8 support can either be compiled into PCRE at build time or supported
 via shared library. But shared library support is included/excluded based on
 the distro. I believe, upstream RedHat does not include it. I was hoping to
 find a way in CentOS. I have no idea if other distro's support it. That's a
 research item for me.

As I said: pcre can do UTF-8:

%build
%configure --enable-utf8

That's from the spec file. And again: It's not pcre, it is iconv which
doesn't like a character in one of the framework's files.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] article for consideration, Atheros 5007EG wireless card

2008-07-06 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Robbins wrote:
 I was able to create a new empty page, but not able to create a page
 under Laptops/Wireless.  (I tried adding AR5007EG to
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/Wireless/  which took me to the
 expected empty page but got the message that I wasn't allowed to 
 edit the page.) 

I tend to forget how the recursive ACLs work (not as expected, mostly).

Try again.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Can't run a bash script from USB drive

2008-07-06 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
 Your blindness is caused by a broken (IMO) search. I also had recently
 searched for this and another thread. AFAICT, the search button on the
 mailing lists intro page only checks archived stuff.

I've seen mails archived there before they hit my INBOX. But yes, google
has to go over it for you to see it :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] how to generate modprobe.conf

2008-07-06 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 Hello, i have moved hard disk from one pc to another (some architecture). I
 have booted, everything working. To my surprise some modules in
 modprobes.conf are still there even if this PC does not have such hardware.
 I have tried remove modprobe.conf, but after reboot, system by it self does
 not generate a new one modprobe.conf. What is responsible for modprobe.conf
 generation, how can i revoke it to generate a modprobe.conf such as is
 generated after fresh install.

Run kudzu.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Message size rejected

2008-07-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Anne Wilson wrote:
 So 'size_limit' is what I'm looking for.  Thanks everyone.  Now comes the 
 really hard bit.  I have to tell her, blindfolded, how to tell the size of 
 the message she is sending.  She uses btinternet's yahoo mailer, and I 
 haven't a clue what she can see there.  :-(

See how large the file is and add around a third of that size to get the
real size of that attachment. 

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] UTF-8 support in PCRE

2008-07-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Amitava Shee wrote:
 How do I get utf-8 support with PCRE?
 
 I am having problems building lucene index using Zend_Lucene. I get the
 following error
 
 
 PHP Notice:  iconv(): Detected an illegal character in input string in
 /var/www/ZendFramework-1.5.2/library/Zend/Search/Lucene/Analysis/Analyzer/Common/Text.php
 on line 56

a) What does that have to do with pcre? (which can do UTF-8)

b) What is on line 56 in that file? Looks like iconv is choking on that.

So try to process that file with iconv on the command line.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] CentOS LiveCD 5.2 release notes

2008-07-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Patrice Guay wrote:
 I created both English and French release notes pages for the upcoming CentOS 
 LiveCD
 5.2:

 http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.2
 http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.2/French


 The content is quite similar to the one from the CentOS LiveCD 5.1 except for 
 these changes:
 - 5.1 - 5.2
 - file information (filename, size, md5sum, sha1sum)
 - updated package versions
 - two known issues have been resolved (#3 and #5)
 - Network installation: adding link for text interface documentation
 - CentOS LiveCD project: adding entry for PXE in the list

 I hope this information will speed up the translator work.

Let me get it to the translators then ... :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS-docs] Live-CD release notes ...

2008-07-02 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey,

http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-docs/2008-July/001553.html
is a little note from the Live CD creator about the Release Notes for
the Live CD. You all should be able to create pages under
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.2 (like
http://wiki.centos.org/Manuals/ReleaseNotes/CentOSLiveCD5.2/German).

So if you're in for another round of Release Note translations - have a
go at it :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Recall: CentOS Digest, Vol 41, Issue 29

2008-07-01 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Matt Seitz (matseitz) wrote:
 Matt Seitz (matseitz) would like to recall the message, CentOS Digest, Vol 
 41, Issue 29.

Matt Seitz should learn how mailing lists work - they are not the same
as Exchange!

Still laughing,

Ralph


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Re: Yogunluk: Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 kernel [2.6.18-92.1.1.el5] crasheson dual-PIII Compaq ProLiant 3000

2008-07-01 Thread Ralph Angenendt
MHR wrote:
 What is this?

A late question by you which has already been answered several times?
It's an out of office reply, where the amount of messages *about* those
replies now is bigger than the amount of those replies.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] add content request to vnc-server howto

2008-06-30 Thread Ralph Angenendt
PJ Welsh wrote:
 pjwelsh is the wiki account.

Go ahead. Sorry for not getting back to you sooner.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re: wiki contribution

2008-06-29 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John Dell wrote:
 Bah, forgot my wiki username: JohnDell

Sorry, I forgot you. You can now go ahead.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Clamd not working

2008-06-28 Thread Ralph Angenendt
AnneWilson wrote:
 I tried starting clamd from a ssh session and this is what I saw:
 
 service clamd start
 Starting Clam AntiVirus Daemon: Limits: Global size limit set to 104857600 
 bytes.
 Limits: File size limit set to 26214400 bytes.
 Limits: Recursion level limit set to 16.
 Limits: Files limit set to 1.
 Archive support enabled.
 Algorithmic detection enabled.
 Portable Executable support enabled.
 ELF support enabled.
 Detection of broken executables enabled.
 Mail files support enabled.
 OLE2 support enabled.
 PDF support enabled.
 HTML support enabled.
 Self checking every 1800 seconds.
 Socket file removed.
 Pid file removed.
 --- Stopped at Sat Jun 28 10:13:34 2008
[  OK  ]
  It appeared to hang at the 'self checking' line, and I left it for several 
 minutes before using Ctrl-C. 

It looks as if it isn't started as a daemon from within your start
script (meaning that it doesn't detach and go into the background).

Do you somehow have an uncommented

Foreground

in your /etc/clamd.conf?

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Clamd not working

2008-06-28 Thread Ralph Angenendt
AnneWilson wrote:
 One more question, please.
 
 My logs this morning show
 
 /etc/cron.daily/freshclam:
 
 connect(): No such file or directory
 
 It does exist, but it is owned root:root.  
 
 -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 456 Jun  9 19:53 /etc/cron.daily/freshclam
 
 Shouldn't this be owned by clamav?  Are there other files I should check for 
 ownership?

No, and this is not the error. What happens when you run freshclam by
hand?

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Clamd not working

2008-06-28 Thread Ralph Angenendt
AnneWilson wrote:
 I seem to have been getting the daily updates.  I've not seen the error 
 message before.  Perhaps it's just because clamd was not started at bootup 
 (or at all before freshclam ran), do you think?  

Yes. Because freshclam tries to tell clamd that there have been updates,
so that clamd reloads the databases. So if clamd wasn't running,
freshclam cannot connect to it.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] freeNX page additional note

2008-06-27 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Robbins wrote:
 Assuming Ralph does give me temporary edit permission, should I put the
 problem and solution in, or simply put a link to the post?

There are no temporary edit permissions. You gave us your hand, so now
we take the complete body.

Go ahead,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Missing NSPluginWrapper.in ReleaseNotes for 5.2

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Niels de Vos wrote:
 Well, looking for the string NSPluginWrapper and doing a text-search,  
 the only hit is the Japanese version of the Release Notes!? I don't  
 understand any of the text, but I interpret that the Japanese version of  
 CentOS-5.2 delivers nspluginwrapper as a new package... So, looking on  
 the FTP-server, this package seems to be available in os/x86_64, maybe  
 it should be listed in all release notes (arch specific)?

It is listed in all release notes (but: All other release note versions
have it as a link to the package manifest).

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Re: To upgrade or not

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Spiro Harvey, Knossos Networks Ltd wrote:
 5.1 is not a different distro than 5.2. If you update 5.1 it becomes  
 5.2. You don't go out and say update to 5.2, you just yum update, and 
 it becomes 5.2.
 Think of it in Windows terms as Centos 5 sp1 (service pack 1) or Centos 
 5 sp2.
 If you want to stay with 5.1 you no longer get updates.

 are you speaking as an official representative of CentOS?

No, but he is right. This discussion happens *every* time a point
release comes out, it is archived in the mailing list archives, it is in
the FAQs on http://wiki.centos.org/.

You *CANNOT* stay on 5.1 except if you never type yum update again.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: To upgrade or not

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Silva wrote:
 If you want something from an Offical CentOS rep, then read
 http://www.centos.org/modules/smartfaq/faq.php?faqid=34
 but it is a little dated since it only refers to Centos 3 and 4.

http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General#head-6e2c3746ec45ac3142917466760321e868f43c0e
also covers CentOS 5.

 You know that the docs are the last thing that gets done!  ;-P

No, but ease of use makes the wiki more sexy for updating docs :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] [Fwd: Re: [CentOS-announce] Release for CentOS-5.2 i386 and x86_64]

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Tim Nelson wrote:
 Please please please make an announcement when it is ready for
 testing!!! I'm more than happy to install and test til I'm blue in the
 face!!!

As said: Step forward, talk to Johnny. Don't be passive and wait for
something to happen. Make it happen!

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Lots of Centos 5.2 updates already

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
John R Pierce wrote:
 I thought the 'updates' directory contained updates for everything from  
 5.0 forward ?

No.

updates/ gets emptied out on a new point release and then is rebased on
the os/ tree for the new release.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Lots of Centos 5.2 updates already

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 updates/ gets emptied out on a new point release and then is rebased on
 the os/ tree for the new release.


 Right ... BUT, base + updates are all the latest RPMS in the release,  
 so no one should think that is a problem.
 So how can you do an install based on all the latest?

Install from the current tree (5.2) and do a yum update after that.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] updating to 5.2 from local repo

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Kai Schaetzl wrote:
 This is my first major version update after using a local repo.
 It seems that before I can yum update I have to fetch the complete new 
 5.2 base? Is this correct?

Yes. updates/ is rebased on the current os/ repo.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Kernel panic from install CD

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Robert Moskowitz wrote:
 I have a bunch of DecTOPs.  Use the AMD Geode chip.

 Yesterday I upgraded one of them, and got the dreaded Kernel panic.  
 Something about powernowk8.  I could boot up with the old kernel, though.

Read the Release Notes.

 I know I have to put in a bug report on this, will do shortly, but first  
 wanted to try a fresh install on another DecTOP.  At the prompt, I  
 specified:  linux askmethod

That already happened:

http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2912 (and there is a link to the
upstream bug there).

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Upgrade perl; package conflict

2008-06-26 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Phil Schaffner wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-06-26 at 08:55 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I'm working on upgrading my Xen Domain0 to CentOs 5.2. However, yum
 update gives me a package conflict on perl:
 ...
  Using a x86_64 install btw.
  
  Anyone seen this one?? 
 
 Please don't hijack threads with a Reply when starting a new topic.
 
 This problem is due to the lack of an i386 RPM in x86_64 repos.  See
 http://bugs.centos.org/view.php?id=2918

perl.i386 is *now* in the extras repository (as stated by the Release
Notes) which is enabled by default. As it is not in upstream's x86_64
tree, it's not going into the CentOS os/ or updates/ tree either.

That's why I closed that bug again.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Aide à la traduction

2008-06-25 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Aymeric DERBOIS wrote:
 Bonjour,

 J'ai un problème pour traduire upstream provider qui apparaît à de  
 multiples reprises. Je comprend bien ce que cela veut dire, mais je ne  
 voit pas comment le traduire.

For our non-french readers: He's looking for a french translation for
the term upstream provider :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Re: A couple of security questions

2008-06-25 Thread Ralph Angenendt
kalinix wrote:
 Just saw and installed yum-security on CentOS 5.x on i386. I think this
 is what you're looking for.

Had you tried it before posting your mail you would have found out that
it errors out with:

Skipping security plugin, no data

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] What torrent are y'all using?

2008-06-25 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Michael A. Peters wrote:
 My ISP caps bt to ~ 20K/s - I'm seeing about half of that right now.

I wouldn't call that ISP. I wouldn't even call that Service Provider. Or
even Provider.

But you definitely do not get internet.

Ralph


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[CentOS-docs] Re: Release Note Translation

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Hey, 
  
  if you haven't started already, now would be a good time to begin
  translating the release notes which are already on the wiki.
 
 And now would be a good time finishing the translation, as we are slowly
 syncing the release to the mirrors :)

Last round guys! There have been a few last minute changes yesterday :)

After that it is over until CentOS 5.3 - although we'd like to do new
installation slides for the next update, so you probably hear from me a
bit earlier then.

Again: Thanks for all the time and the effort you put in there.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] To have an acces to the wiki

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
aymeric derbois wrote:
 I have send a message, but a i haven't give all information.
 
 I would like to have access to the wiki /fr/* for translating articles from
 English to French.
 For begin, ia would like translating the FAQ
 
 My username is AymericDerbois

Go ahead, you can edit under http://wiki.centos.org/fr/FAQ now. I'm
relying on the french readers here to proofread and give you hints and
tipps.

Thanks for stepping forward!

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Centos 5.2 and Xen

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Adriano dos Santos Vieira (Hapia IN) wrote:
 Hi, guys!
 
 Please, could I ask you by some documentation about XEN and Cluster on
 CEntOS-5. Theese one could be from basic to advanced level.

http://www.centos.org/docs/5/

Not that hard to find.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Re: Re: Re: CentOS 5.2 is here!

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 
 Sorry to be dumb, but what is the point of calling it Centos-5.2?
 Is it just that if installing Centos from scratch,
 one could download a more up-to-date version?

Think of it as a rebase with added kernel drivers, some newer features
and so on, while still basically being CentOS 5.

Or - if you come from the windows world - CentOS 5, service pack 2.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: CentOS 5.2 is here!

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Timothy Murphy wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 
  Sorry to be dumb, but what is the point of calling it Centos-5.2?
  Is it just that if installing Centos from scratch,
  one could download a more up-to-date version?
  
  Think of it as a rebase with added kernel drivers, some newer features
  and so on, while still basically being CentOS 5.
  
  Or - if you come from the windows world - CentOS 5, service pack 2.
 
 But does one actually get Windows XP SP3 
 simply by repeated Windows Updates?

If there is a service pack on the update servers - yes, you should get
that this way. 

 Re kernel drivers, are you saying that Centos only updates the kernel
 when there is a (minor) distribution change?

Yes. Feature changes *only* on minor upgrades (.0-.1-.2 ...), all
other updates are either bug fixes or security updates. And after a
certain lifetime, there will be no more minor updates (see CentOS 3,
where CentOS 3.9 is the latest), but only security updates, which is the
so called maintenance mode. 

All those questions and many more are answered in the FAQ section on
wiki.centos.org ...

Cheers,

Ralph

 I'm not complaining, just slightly baffled by the nomenclature.

Erm, why?

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Re: [CentOS] Re: CentOS 5.2 is here!

2008-06-24 Thread Ralph Angenendt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 24 Jun 2008 10:41:37 -0500
 Johnny Hughes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  CentOS-5.0, CentOS-5.1 and CentOS-5.2 are update sets of CentOS-5 ...
  and are still CentOS-5.  The .0, .1, and .2 are update sets and are
  really just a frozen point in time of CentOS-5.
 
 I think that the problem is the naming/numbering convention. If CentOS
 would follow the same naming convention as RH, some people would  be
 less confused.

You mean like 5.1, 5.2 and so on? Yeah, that really would be better.

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Re: [CentOS] CentOS 5.2 is here!

2008-06-23 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Miguel Medalha wrote:
 Let me be the first (maybe):

 CentOS 5.2 is here (at least):

Don't use that yet. We've found a last minute error which might break
things on x86_64. As said: It ain't released until Johnny says so.

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Re: [CentOS-docs] HOWTO VNC

2008-06-22 Thread Ralph Angenendt
glc wrote:
 I have agreed to write a HOWTO for VNC using service vncserver.

Please register an account on the wiki (FirstnameLastname) and tell us
what it is - you'll get access to the pages then.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 options {
 default-key rndckey;
 default-server 127.0.0.1;
 default-port 953;
 };

You bind it to localhost, but

  controls {
inet 172.18.3.57 port 953
allow { 172.18.3.57; } keys { rndckey; };
  };

don't allow your localhost to connect to it. 

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Re: [CentOS] A couple of security questions

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Luigi Perroti wrote:
 One thing I will probably miss is the debsecan tool.
 This utility sends me a mail whenever there is a change regarding the
 vulnerabilities' status on my system.
 It lists new ones, resolved ones and current ones.
 
 Is there anything similar for CentOS?

Not yet (there is a security-updates plugin for yum which we try to
incorporate).

 2) I read that RHEL packages are compiled with various security
 technologies including Exec Shield, FORTIFY_SOURCE and
 fstack-protector.
 
 Does this apply to CentOS too?

Of course :)

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Mounting Floppies

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Nigel Kendrick wrote:
 So is it me, CentOS 5 or something else? (Ideas, anyone!?). It could be a
 set of duff floppies and three flaky drives (two brand new), but I thought
 I'd ask before I spend too much more time on it!


As always: Logfile excerpts could have been a great help. Also dmesg
probably has to say something about that :)

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Re: [CentOS] rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refuse

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 hi
 
 
 wile i am running the command rndc reload
 
 i am getting the error
 
 rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refuse

What was wrong with the answer I gave you at Fri, 20 Jun 2008 10:58:05
+0200?

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] error

2008-06-20 Thread Ralph Angenendt
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# named -g -p 53
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.669 starting BIND 9.3.3rc2 -g -p 53
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.669 found 1 CPU, using 1 worker thread
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.673 loading configuration from '/etc/named.conf'
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.674 /etc/rndc.conf:7: 'options' redefined near 'options'
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.676 loading configuration: already exists
 20-Jun-2008 13:31:23.676 exiting (due to fatal error)

Do you include the rndc.conf in your named.conf? 

Please show your named.conf ...

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Please write-permission of HowTos/Laptops on Wiki

2008-06-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
TAIRA Hajime wrote:
 I want to create following page.
 http://wiki.centos.org/HowTos/Laptops/HP/HP2133

Go ahead.

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Re: [CentOS] can't install software, not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - 5 is not a valid release or hasnt been released yet

2008-06-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Rudi Ahlers wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]# yum install apache
 Loading installonlyn plugin
 Repository centosplus is listed more than once in the configuration
 Setting up Install Process
 Setting up repositories
 not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - 5 is not a valid  
 release or hasnt been released yet
 not using ftp, http[s], or file for repos, skipping - 5 is not a valid  
 release or hasnt been released yet
 Reading repository metadata in from local files
 Parsing package install arguments
 Nothing to do

 Does anyone know how to fix this?

Please do an ls -l /etc/yum.repos.d/

and show us the content of all .repo files in there.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Need GLIBCXX-3.4.9 for /usr/lib64/libstdc++

2008-06-19 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott R. Ehrlich wrote:
 /usr/local/bin/myprog: /usr/lib64/libstdc++: version `GLIBXX.3.4.9' not 
 found (required by /usr/local/bin/myprog)

 I have gcc 4.2.3.

Ahemm. 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$rpm -q gcc
gcc-4.1.2-42.el5.x86_64

 I've performed a yum install compat-* and glibc*

 What am I missing?

A sane CentOS setup?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$strings /usr/lib/libstdc++.so.6.0.8|grep -i
glibcxx
GLIBCXX_3.4
GLIBCXX_3.4.1
GLIBCXX_3.4.2
GLIBCXX_3.4.3
GLIBCXX_3.4.4
GLIBCXX_3.4.5
GLIBCXX_3.4.6
GLIBCXX_3.4.7
GLIBCXX_3.4.8
GLIBCXX_FORCE_NEW
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

So you have a newer gcc and some program requesting a more current
libstdc++.

Does that help?

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV help needed

2008-06-18 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Anne Wilson wrote:
 freshclam.conf was root:root, so I've fixed that.  Running your strace 
 command 
 gives me
 
 strace -eopen clamscan
 open(/etc/freshclam.conf, O_RDONLY)   = 3
 open(/var/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3
 open(/var/clamav, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 3
 open(/var/clamav/main.cvd, O_RDONLY)  = 4

So it opened freshclam.conf and then proceeded to read the database
which is kept fresh by freshclam.

 The message about signatures being ancient comes from ClamTK virus scanner.  
 Maybe there's some connection there that needs fixing?

I have no idea about ClamTK - so yes, that might be the problem. No idea
where that looks :)

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] RE: rpmfusion status?

2008-06-18 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Rex Dieter wrote:
 Ross S. W. Walker wrote:
 
  Not to start a repo flame war,
 
 nice try.

Nice catch =:D

scnr,

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Re: [CentOS] YUM and installing older versions of software.

2008-06-18 Thread Ralph Angenendt
James B. Byrne wrote:
 How does one specify a particular version of a software package to yum to
 install?  Is this even possible?  What happens to superceded pacjkages in
 repos? Are they simple removed/discarded?
 
 yum install package-X.Y.Z-A.el5 ???

The yum version in 5.2 will have a --allow-downgrade option.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] Recommend an Amazon EC2 AMI for CentOS?

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Bart Schaefer wrote:
 I see one mention in the forums of someone using the CentOS5Web AMI,
 but I can't find anything about its provenance.

Looks light Rightscale has one:

http://blog.rightscale.com/2007/10/23/64-bit-centos5-amazon-ec2-image-release/

No idea if that is what you are looking for. 

http://virtualization.sys-con.com/read/590285.htm is related and a
quite interesting read.

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV help needed

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Simon Banton wrote:
 Every day I see in logwatch that my signatures are updated, and the database
 notified, but if I try to scan a file manually it tells me that my signatures
 are 55 days old.

 I think clamscan looks for the db files in a compiled-in default  
 location of /usr/local/share/clamav and doesn't consult the clamd.conf or 
 freshclam.conf files (after all, why would it?)

It does at least open freshclam.conf (which means that that one must be
*readable* by the user running clamscan:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$strace -eopen clamscan
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamav.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/lib/tls/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/usr/lib/libz.so.1, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/usr/lib/libbz2.so.1, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/usr/lib/sse2/libgmp.so.3, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamunrar_iface.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamunrar.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/etc/freshclam.conf, O_RDONLY)   = 3
open(/var/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV help needed

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Simon Banton wrote:
 At 13:16 +0200 17/6/08, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 It does at least open freshclam.conf

 True, but then it goes on to look in its compiled in location too:

 open(/etc/freshclam.conf, O_RDONLY)   = 3
 open(/var/lib/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3
 open(/usr/local/share/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3
 open(/usr/local/share/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3
 open(/usr/local/share/clamav,  
 O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 3
 open(/usr/local/share/clamav/main.cvd, O_RDONLY) = 4

It doesn't here:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$strace -eopen clamscan
open(/etc/ld.so.cache, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamav.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/lib/tls/libpthread.so.0, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/lib/tls/libc.so.6, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/usr/lib/libz.so.1, O_RDONLY)= 3
open(/usr/lib/libbz2.so.1, O_RDONLY)  = 3
open(/usr/lib/sse2/libgmp.so.3, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamunrar_iface.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/usr/lib/libclamunrar.so.4, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/etc/freshclam.conf, O_RDONLY)   = 3
open(/var/clamav/daily.cld, O_RDONLY) = 3
open(/var/clamav, O_RDONLY|O_NONBLOCK|O_LARGEFILE|O_DIRECTORY) = 3
open(/var/clamav/main.cvd, O_RDONLY)  = 4
open(/tmp/clamav-56d503ba1cf89b51cfc1483052997d0e/COPYING, 
O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_TRUNC

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Re: [CentOS] ClamAV help needed

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Simon Banton wrote:
 At 14:48 +0200 17/6/08, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 It doesn't here:

 Is your copy installed from rpm/yum or compiled from source? Mine's the 
 latter.

rpmforge.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] [OT] Firefox 3

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott McClanahan wrote:
 This is completely off topic but just curious if you guys had any extra
 insight into what time today Firefox 3 will be released.  Thanks.

http://spreadfirefox.com/

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Virtual Box

2008-06-17 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Michael Peterson wrote:
 
 Has anyone else tried and successfully installed CentOS 5.1 into the latest
 (1.62) Virtual Box in Windows XP Pro?

Works on VirtualBox 1.6 in OSX. 

 No virus found in this outgoing message.
 Checked by AVG. 
 Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1505 - Release Date: 6/16/2008
 7:20 AM

Do you see a need to advertise for that company? If not turn that off
please (or put it in a header).

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Re: [CentOS-docs] modern-CentOS-1.10.3

2008-06-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Tim Verhoeven wrote:
 Yes, that is what I mean. It is just my personal preference. What
 there any special reasoning why text inside {{{ }}} and ` ` was not
 wrapped upto now ?

Because you don't want to autowrap code:

{{{

if [ $debug -eq 1 ]; then

# This is just an example for debugging. In the real code you might
# want to put something else there instead of the echo statement, like
/bin/rm -rf /home/

echo I would now remove all home directories

fi
}}}

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Re: [CentOS-docs] Re: [CentOS-promo] Intro and Translation

2008-06-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Dag Wieers wrote:
 Ralph,

 How do we work for SIGs ? Would a seperate group be useful per SIG, or do 
 we rather want to keep it simple and light ?

Group for what? AccessGroup on the wiki? We're going to open up that
part anyway in the near future. 

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] booting usb stick

2008-06-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Jerry Geis wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have been trying to get a usb stick 8G to boot centos.
 I am as far a it boots and hangs at Switching to new root.

 I take the same USB stick and put it another PC and it boots fine.

 What might I look for as to why the machine hangs at switching to new root?

 Of course the machines are different. The one that does not boot is an  
 ebox 2300sx and

Vortex86SX integrates the RISC core that contains all the features of
the 486SX microprocessor, and the instruction set of Vortex86SX is
compatible with 486 as well, so please directly select 486 as the
processor family in the Linux kernel setting.

CentOS does *not* support that processor class, for CentOS 5 you need
i686 upwards (as even i586 does not work).

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Re: [CentOS] Re: netboot, vnc and no keyboard/mouse/monitor

2008-06-16 Thread Ralph Angenendt
dnk wrote:
 No, not yet.

 I need to confirm I still have an id on the wiki.

 My mind if slipping me, but who do I need to speak to in regards to wiki 
 access?

If you'd be looking very close now, you could see me raising my hand
now.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] RHDS ON CENTOS 5 for squid authentication

2008-06-14 Thread Ralph Angenendt
lingu wrote:
 Hi,
 
  I AM RUINING  squid PROXY ON CENTOS 5

Don't do that, then.

SCNR, really.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Nicholas wrote:
 Correction:

 RHEL 5 is LSB 3.1. Does this mean CentOS 5 is automatically LSB 3.1?

Yes. But we may not call it so, as CentOS is *not* certified by the
Linux Foundation. But the LSB tests should run without any problem on 

If anyone wants to sponsor that - feel free to contact the CentOS team,
as the fees are pretty high:

https://www.linuxfoundation.org/en/Fee_Schedule

And the product has to be retested after each maintenance release (5.1,
5.2, 5.3) ...

But you could also donate that kind of money to the CentOS project if
you want to express how you feel about CentOS :)

Cheers,

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Re: [CentOS] is CentOS an LSB certified product?

2008-06-13 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ralph Angenendt wrote:
   But the LSB tests should run without any problem on 

CentOS 5.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] mdmonitor not triggering program on fail events

2008-06-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ow Mun Heng wrote:
 Currently, from what I see, init is calling mdmonitor with these options
 
 mdadm --monitor --scan -f
 
 (note that the --program is not there)
 
 and this is in my /etc/mdadm.conf
 
 MAILADDR root
 PROGRAM /root/program_2_run.sh
 
 short of hacking the mdmonitor script to hardcode the program there, is
 there an alternate, more elegant way?

What's not elegant about that? Sure, an /etc/sysconfig/mdmonitor would
probably have been better, but it scans the config file for MAIL and
PROGRAM being in it and would stop otherwise.

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Re: [CentOS] INN with SSL

2008-06-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 Hello, on a INN mailinglist i have found , that in order to use INN over SSL
 i need to call another instance of nnrpd like this :
 
   su news -c '/usr/local/news/bin/nnrpd -D -c
 /usr/local/news/etc/readers-ssl.conf
 -p 563 -S'
 
 I am using INN from official centos 5.1 rpm .
 My question is, where to init scripts /etc/init.d/inn or somewhere else put
 such a line to have INN listening on 563 for SSL connections?

I'd really use it the way you're told to do it in the nnrpd manual page:
Run it via xinetd. nnrpd takes close to no time coming up, so you don't
need to have it there as a daemon.

This has two advantages: You can change readers.conf and others and it
will pick up the changes on the next client connecet - and it can be run
as user news via xinetd, which is not possible when you run it
standalone, as it has to be run as root to bind to port 563.

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Re: [CentOS] Re: mdmonitor not triggering program on fail events

2008-06-12 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Silva wrote:
 I don't see an option --program mentioned in the man page either.
 Is that a valid option?

  -p, --program, --alert
  Give a program to be run whenever an event is detected.

So yes, it is valid :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] RHEL/CentOS5.2 and rsyslogd

2008-06-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Laurence Alexander Hurst wrote:
 Hi there,
 I am slightly confused by the RHEL release notes and an earlier thread  
 here about rsyslogd, so I hope someone can clear this up for me;

 I see that rsyslog is included in RHEL as of 5.2 (and so will be  
 available in CentOS when 5.2 is ready) however there is no indication of  
 whether it has been made the default syslogger or not - is it an  
 optional package or installed by default on a fresh install? 

It is an optional install which can be installed alongside sysklogd.

So if you want to use it you have to disable or uninstall sysklogd and
install and enable rsyslogd.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]

2008-06-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Matt Hyclak wrote:
 On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 04:07:48PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt enlightened us:
  This is something you don't have to back up with some arguments, as a
  non-green tree (at least from spring to fall) doesn't look that healthy
  and who has ever heard of a yellow fire engine?
 
 Not to pick nits, but in Columbus, OH, USA the fire trucks are (or were) all
 an awful shade of fluorescent yellow :-)

I now officially hate you, because you broke my brilliantly laid out
retort.

Ralph


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]

2008-06-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
William L. Maltby wrote:
 On Wed, 2008-06-11 at 16:22 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  I now officially hate you, because you broke my brilliantly laid out
  retort.
 
 Retort? I could've sworn it was a troll. ;- 

Na, no troll. 

 The reply stating a favorite was an opinion, possibly useful to the OP
 if he investigated.  As a suggestion, the poster had no obligation to
 offer supporting facts, evidence, research, etc.

Sorry, there is one thing I really don't like: Giving out advice without
telling why. Because it is really useless for the guy who got that
advice. Why should he follow down that path? Why was he given that
advice? Is there really a reason to put some research time into that
advice?

 In this regard, it was no different than *many* other opinions on many
 topics offered on the list that don't support a suggestion with rigorous
 analytical processes. And as usual, the OP can request more info or
 google.

Yes. Opinions. Opinions are good, but should be backed up - and not only
when you're queried why you have that opinion.

 And FYI, I've seen yellow and green fire trucks somewhere in the several
 places I've lived. And trees that are red (redwoods in northern
 California).

Good thing  I live in Europe :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [Fwd: Re: [CentOS] School Server Setup]

2008-06-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Terriault, Mr. wrote:

Okay, I can see where you are getting with Clarkconnect and SME. That
really might be easier for people who aren't into administrating
servers.

 - Workstations, Fedora or Ubuntu .. because I like having the most
 up2date versions and goodies on my desktop for free. 

But this contradicts what you said above. If you want hasslefree
administration for the one or two servers, you don't want to lose that
on a desktop which you have to update at least once a year and where
updates can give you headaches because something major changed.

Giving out stable Desktops is one of the things where CentOS really
shines. And: These Desktops are for research and work, not for having
the latest and greatest software. 

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] LDAP syncrepl incompatibility between CentOS 4.x and 5.x

2008-06-11 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Craig White wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-06-12 at 00:08 +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  I tried to do that, as I wanted to have LDAP overlays (hey, anyone who
  wants to test those on CentOS 5 - there are packages in the testing
  repository).
  
  And I found out that you don't want to do that. There are too many
  packages which are built against openldap, you'd end up rebuilding a
  rather large part of the distribution. 
 
 IIRC, you have to build from source...
 - openssl
 - kerberos
 - cyrus-sasl
 - db4
 - openldap
 
 I built everything in /usr/local and just left the distribution packages
 intact and it worked.

On my CentOS 5 install there are about 33 packages requiring a certain
version of libldap and liblber.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] mac address in prompt

2008-06-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Gergely Buday wrote:
 Hi there,
 
 for some reasons bash writes out my host's mac address as a result of
 including \h in PS1. Do you know why? This was not always so.
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ echo $PS1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] \W]\$

What does hostname -f come back with?

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] mac address in prompt

2008-06-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Gergely Buday wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ hostname -f
 hostname: Unknown host
 
 After this I set hostname with the similarly-named command and now it
 works, thanks for the tip.

You might want to add the correct hostname in /etc/sysconfig/network, so
that the change will survive reboots ...

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Help!

2008-06-10 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Craig White wrote:
 You may want to 'disable' rpmforge if you're going to use kbs packages
 or tell rpmforge to ignore-pkgs=clam*

The clam packages in kbs are more than stone old. rpmforge is the
repository where you should install clam* from, so I suggest to do it
the other way round ...

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Robbins wrote:
 Just for clarification, due to the similarity of name and topic, Scott
 Robbins (me) requested permission to post an article about
 Linux-VServer.

Okay, I gave ScottRobbins the permissions for the Vserver article
(linked from HowTos under virtualization).

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] I want to contribute to the wiki

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Dowdle wrote:
 I just signed up on the CentOS Wiki as user ScottDowdle.
 
 I'd like to update one page and add a new page... so when a AdminGroup
 user notices and has the time to do the deed, please allow me the
 following:
 
 1) Update - http://wiki.centos.org/TipsAndTricks/BrokenVserver I would
 like to add an explanation on why some VPSes do not include yum.  I'm
 a long time member of the OpenVZ community and know the reason.

That really does interest me, as I see no reason to exclude yum :)

 
 2) New Page - In the HowTos - Virtualization section - Installing and
 using OpenVZ with CentOS 5

I don't know if you have seen the thread about the Vserver article on
the wiki. If not: Please make it *very* clear at the beginning of your
article that *if* the user uses a non-CentOS kernel, he cannot expect to
get support with that on the normal CentOS support venues. See the
CustomKernel page in the HowTo section on the wiki.

Otherwise go ahead.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Akemi Yagi wrote:
 Would you do the above as well ?  I'm tired of making corrections for him :-D

Done. Didn't see that mail somehow :)

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Article for wiki consideration

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Scott Robbins wrote:
 On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 01:20:44PM +0200, Ralph Angenendt wrote:
  Okay, I gave ScottRobbins the permissions for the Vserver article
  (linked from HowTos under virtualization).
 
 Before I go ahead, Ralph, would you look at the latest version 
 http://home.nyc.rr.com/computertaijutsu/vserver.html and let me know if
 you consider the first few paragraphs about the kernel adequate for
 CentOS needs?

Put it in red :)

See
http://wiki.centos.org/ArtWork/WikiDesign/modern-CentOS#head-6c278f4d461a74ef56c974f01177021592af5e81

...

 Thanks and apologies for causing a fuss.

Which fuss? 

Cheers and have fun

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Hardening CentOS by removing hacker tools

2008-06-07 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Erek Dyskant wrote:
 
  Not if /home and /tmp and /var/tmp are mounted with noexec,nodev,nosuid,...
 
 Actually, wrong.
 
  /lib/ld-2.5.so ~/bin/wget 

Actually, wrong:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$bin/true ; echo $?
0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$/lib64/ld-2.5.so bin/true; echo $?
0
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$sudo mount -o remount,noexec /home
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$bin/true ; echo $?
-bash: bin/true: Permission denied
126
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$/lib64/ld-2.5.so bin/true; echo $?
bin/true: error while loading shared libraries: bin/true: failed to map
segment from shared object: Operation not permitted
127
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 6/4/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
  http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack
 
  is missing. As are all the subpages under
 
  http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/
 
 We have no pages under es/AdditionalResources/HardwareList . Yes, it
 is a bit out of date at the moment. We need volunteers' help, I think.

Ah, okay. And with regard to volunteers - yes. See the opening up the
wiki thread ...

  Ralph - who still has to move the repository stuff.
 
 After that, is possible that the following address
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack
 
 uses the Daniel's redirection code to show the English one.
 CentOSWebStack hasn't been Spanish translated yet.

Yes, it will. I'm trying to do it today.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 After that, is possible that the following address
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack

Works now.

Cheers,

Ralph


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[CentOS-docs] Release Note Translation

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Hey, 

if you haven't started already, now would be a good time to begin
translating the release notes which are already on the wiki. We're going
to begin QA tomorrow and will finish the release notes from our findings
in QA. So if you now begin and watch the release notes page, you'll just
have to put the changes into the already translated stuff.

Thanks in advance (and for the work which already happened),

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] kernels and irc

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
James Bunnell wrote:
 I was in the #centos-social channel and simply stated that I noticed
 CentOS 3-4 were getting a lot of updates. I also stated that the CentOS
 5 was one kernel behind, as in RHEL it is at -53, the gentlemen then
 told me that I was wrong and it was at -21.

lftp ftp.redhat.com:/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS ls 
kernel*  kernel.list
lftp ftp.redhat.com:/pub/redhat/linux/enterprise/5Server/en/os/SRPMS exit
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$grep 53 kernel.list 
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54464006 Feb 12 14:37 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.13.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54492476 Mar 03 09:40 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.14.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54521781 May 04 07:52 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.19.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54540423 May 19 09:58 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.21.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54421174 Nov 28  2007 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.4.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  2 ftpftp54461630 Jan 18 11:29 
kernel-2.6.18-53.1.6.el5.src.rpm
-rw-rw-r--  1 ftpftp54386174 Oct 11  2007 kernel-2.6.18-53.el5.src.rpm
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$

So which kernel would that -53 be? The one from October 11th, 2007?

 I then asked if there was a way to get a progress report somehow on
 5.2, and that 5.2 has already upgraded that kernel. The result was
 that I was banned for being correct. 

a) #centos-social is not a support channel, as that channel's topic
   clearly states.

b) The ban was *not* for you being correct (because you are not, 5.2
   will have 2.6.18-92, but for your behaviour over the last days/weeks and
   your *constantly* asking about progress on 5.2 (and getting the answer 
   everybody getsdoes, see http://planet.centos.org/).

 I dont understand this kind of support.

I don't understand why you came here to whine about that.   

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] kernels and irc

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
James Bunnell wrote:
 i was told early on, that it took an invite to get involved. 

Subscribing to centos-devel or starting a SIG or doing a project on
http://projects.centos.org/ does not require *any* invitation and that
is where involvement starts. Well, it even does start on a lower level -
by supporting other users on IRC, forums or mailing lists. Which also
does not require an invitation. Neither does writing up documentation on
the Wiki. 

Access to packages preliminary to release or access to build hosts -
that requires an invitation. But that is on top of the involvement
process. 

  If CentOS noticed a huge decline in users they might be concerned about
  this.  They haven't; you're probably the only one I've heard bringing
  up this issue and honestly it sounds like you were the cause of the
  problem.
 
 that may be your perception. perhaps you would want to look at the logs
 so you would know.

Others probably had another perception - and I think that today might
have been just the icing on the cake. 

 This is not an issue for CentOS currently.
 
 too bad.

Errm.

 and users do not react well to being told rudely 'it will be ready when
 its ready', that is just rude.

But it will only be ready when it is ready. If there would be a known
date or even week, that would have been announced. But from the
beginning on people have been told that it normally takes three to four
weeks for CentOS to follow up on a release from upstream. And I don't
see anything rude in stating exactly that - it is ready when it is
ready. And the time frame within that is ready will happen is still
the same as in Tim's blog post on planet.centos.org.

What is rude about that?

 i do not perceive it as a paying customer, and i was not the one that
 brought that up. now that it has been brought up, what is the mission of
 CentOS ?

To provide people with a free (as in beer, RHEL and CentOS are also free
as in free speech) Enterprise Linux Distribution. I think that counts as
goal No. 1.

  This is open source etiquette.  It differs from business etiquette
  where you are more than welcoem to berate and yell and holler about
  things because you're paying someone a lot of money.
 
 the etiquette is rudeness to promote open source? is this what you are
 saying?

No. But people rather do work on stuff so that it does get ready than to
market around it and promise stuff that won't happen.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] kernels and irc

2008-06-05 Thread Ralph Angenendt
James Bunnell wrote:
 On Thu, 2008-06-05 at 17:00 +0100, Anne Wilson wrote:
  On May 22 it was estimated that it would take 3 weeks.  Did you really need 
  an 
  update on that?
 
 i only asked. an answer such as what was given here earlier would have
 sufficed. is that so hard?

But it is the same answer you already had!

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 6/3/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try the following urls to see if that is what we need:
 
 http://wiki.centos.org/es/Repositories

At least here I can see that it needs a tad more doing, as for example
the How to install RPMForge link does not work. These pages probably
need moving, too.

It doesn't move pages recursively :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 On 6/4/08, Ralph Angenendt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  It doesn't move pages recursively :)
 
 Yes. Also CentOSPlus page was in the same situation than RPMForge one.
 Take a look, are they ok now ?

I will.

 Are you planning other modifications ? for example rename pages like:
 
 PackageManagement/Yum

 HowTo/PackageManagement/Yum

Not at the moment. I wanted to clean up the FrontPage a bit and just put
*one* link to additional resources there.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Alain Reguera Delgado wrote:
 Yes. Also CentOSPlus page was in the same situation than RPMForge one.
 Take a look, are they ok now ?

http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/Repositories/CentOSPlus/CentOSWebStack

is missing. As are all the subpages under

http://wiki.centos.org/es/AdditionalResources/HardwareList/

Cheers,

Ralph - who still has to move the repository stuff.


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Re: [CentOS] Re: INN Python support in Centos 5.1

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 This is so far  i have in readers.conf :
 
 auth pdg {
 hosts: *
 python-auth: /opt/pdg/nnrpd_auth.py

readers.conf(5) tells me that it's python_auth.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] INN Python support in Centos 5.1

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 Hello . i want to ask several questions :
 
 1) Is INN on Centos5.1 compiled with python auth hooks support?

Look in the spec file in the src.rpm. No idea. But ldd /path/to/innd
should also be able to tell you if it is linked against python:

libpython2.4.so.1.0 = /usr/lib/libpython2.4.so.1.0 (0xb7d4d000)

(That's on a debian box, so it might differ on yours).

 2) If i want my messages on news server to keep forever (history) , should i
 change expire.ctl?
What i need to set

hlacik.*:A:never:never:never

(last match is used, so if you have some other matching entry *below*
that, this will not work. Just put it as the last line).

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] INN Python support in Centos 5.1

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 RPM build errors:
 File not found by glob:
 /var/tmp/inn-2.4.3-12-I31464/usr/lib/news/bin/filter/*.pyc
 File not found by glob:
 /var/tmp/inn-2.4.3-12-I31464/usr/lib/news/bin/filter/*.pyo
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] SPECS]#

Take out *.pyc and *.pyo from the files section, these should be
automagically created once the corresponding .py gets called.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Re: INN Python support in Centos 5.1

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
David Hláčik wrote:
 Jun  4 11:49:01 sx2 nnrpd[8251]: python interpreter initialized OK
 Jun  4 11:49:01 sx2 nnrpd[8251]: python auth object is not defined
 
 This is what i have in readers.conf :
 
 auth localhost {
 #hosts: localhost, 127.0.0.1, stdin
 #hosts: 10.123.*
 #default: localhost
 python_auth: /opt/pdg/nnrpd_auth.py
 }

Sorry, I have never used that for inn before.

Maybe the file hook-python in the INN docs (if that is in the package)
helps a bit? It describes everything needed for authentication with
python.

One thing you could try first is moving nnrpd_auth.py to the filter path
(which is defined in inn.conf, search for pathfilter).

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] Mounting cifs shares by non-root users on CentOS 4.6

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
James Pearson wrote:
 % mount /mnt/win
 mount error 1 = Operation not permitted
 Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g.man mount.cifs)

NOTES
   This command may be used only by root, unless  installed  setuid,
   in which case the noeexec and nosuid mount flags are enabled.

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS] General CentOS 5.1 (or Gnome) instability?

2008-06-04 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Marko A. Jennings wrote:
 On Wed, June 4, 2008 4:14 pm, Alfred von Campe wrote:
 snip
  So, does anyone else have the perception that CentOS 5.X
  (particularly Gnome) is a little less stable than CentOS 4.X or is it
  just me?
 
 I can tell you that five (very different) desktop machines that I manage
 work without any problems under CentOS 5, but they all run KDE.  Based on
 my experience, I would be inclined to believe that your problems are
 somehow Gnome related.

As I know of several CentOS 5 machines which have no problem running
Gnome, we seem to have a problem :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] new pages

2008-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Riaan Van Niekerk wrote:
 Where
 At http://wiki.centos.org/, under Additional Resources, a new page for
 Software (similar to HardwareList)

You now have access to anything under
http://wiki.centos.org/AdditionalResources - and I even made you a link
already. Get wild on there :)

Alain: I want to move Repositories, HardwareList and Mirrors under that
link also and do a #REDIRECT on the old pages. Can we move the spanish
pages to that as well? 

It's fairly easy: Just move the page to AdditionalSoftware, then
recreate the old page with the sole content

#REDIRECT AdditionalRessources/HardwareList 

for example.

See http://wiki.centos.org/WikiSandBox/Foo?action=edit;.


 fix http://wiki.centos.org/FAQ/General , question 11, which is
 a) incomplete/outdated since it does not mention Advanced Platform, only AS
 b) incorrect, since there is no difference between the kernels that ship
 with AS and ES. Only the SLA differs.

That page is a bit harder to get by, ACL-wise. Can you just write what
you want to write as an answer there and let me put that into the FAQ? 

We are trying to reorganize the way the wiki is run, but for now that
seems the best way for me.

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Opening of the Wiki - Part I

2008-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ned Slider wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 But this would mean that we have to either open up this list for
 everyone, or take all of the people on the editorial team into the
 moderators team for this list (which I don't have any problem with), or
 require people to subscribe here.

 I don't follow what you mean. Wouldn't someone simply subscribe to this  
 list and then send a mail stating they agree with the CC license etc,  
 and a member of the editorial team upon seeing that message adds them to  
 the Wiki editorial group and replies to the message to let the person  
 know they've been added.

This is what I wanted to know: Do we want people who want to edit the
wiki to be subscribed to this list? This is taking the barrier a step
higher.

 I would think that anyone who wants to contribute to the Wiki should be  
 subscribed to this list anyway so IMHO it makes sense to use this list.

That's what I asked :)

Cheers,

Ralph


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Re: [CentOS-docs] Opening of the Wiki - Part I

2008-06-03 Thread Ralph Angenendt
Ned Slider wrote:
 Ralph Angenendt wrote:
 This is what I wanted to know: Do we want people who want to edit the
 wiki to be subscribed to this list? This is taking the barrier a step
 higher.

 Presumably the alternative is for them to simply register an account on  
 the Wiki and off they go. But if you take that route, at what point do  
 they formally agree to the Wiki CC license - part of the Wiki account  
 signup process?

No. I never said that they don't have to send that mail (except if we
find an easy way to change the account registration on the wiki, but I
rather like a handwritten mail).

 I would think that anyone who wants to contribute to the Wiki should 
 be  subscribed to this list anyway so IMHO it makes sense to use this 
 list.

 That's what I asked :)

 See, great minds thing alike :D

Do we? 

Ralph


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