[e-gold-list] Re: Quick view
At 08:24 PM 2/22/2001 -0500, Bob wrote: Good quick view of the USD vs. some other currencies. They forgot the USD vs. gold though. http://www.stockmaster.com/exe/sm/currency?UPT=4610 I sent them a note and hope they accept my comments... "At http://www.stockmaster.com/exe/sm/currency?UPT=4610 why aren't you comparing these currencies to gold. Many of us in the world use that as a standard. Right now we go to http://www.goldeconomy.com/index_main.cgi where they have the major currencies. If you combined yours with their's we would have an excellent source" George __ George Matyjewicz, President Standard Reserve Corp. -- Atlanta, GA World Wide Currency for the World Wide Web http://www.standardreserve.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem
Joe, Hi, Joe! I must admit, even the best of the Market Makers occasionally get bogged down in fulfilling orders and have lapses in quality customer service from time to time. I must admit I have had my share of "breakdowns" in my history as a Market Maker! I sympathize with your situation. Please understand the Omnipay is a rather large company now and deals with a great volume of orders on a daily basis. From time to time, "situations" such as your's do arise. I am sure it was a simple oversight, not a personal grudge or attempt to keep your funds from you. Perhaps on your next exchange you might want to consider employing the services of one of the many smaller, independent Market Makers. Most of us put our emphasis on "quality" vs. "quantity" and dedicate ourselves to providing outstanding support (prompt replies to questions, answering calls, quick turn-around times) to our clients in return for slightly higher rates. Take a look at the e-gold directory page and scan the dozen or so independent MM's listed there. If you are serious about your desire for quality Customer Service, I humbly ask that you consider Gaithmans: http://businesses.msn.com/GEGE/ Regardless of your decision, I wish you the best with your on-line ventures and electronic currency transactions! Hang in there, many of e-gold, Ltd's and GSR's (dba Omnipay) staff read this discussion list daily. I am confident one of them will see your posting and take necessary steps to correct the situation! Respectfully, Eric Gaither, President Gaithmans Gold Nation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "E. Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem I recent transferred gold to Omnipay's account and ordered a check. THIRTEEN days later, the check was processed. I've queried Omnipay via email as to the ridiculous wait and have had no response. I long ago quit bothering with their 800 number as no one ever answers nor do they ever call back. Has anyone else been having this problem? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem
Hi Joe, I have to agree with Eric. I have used Eric many times and each time, he is very fast. I live in Indonesia and when he sends me a wire, he charges me 1% plus a $35 international wire fee. The best about Eric's service is that since I am 12 hours ahead of him the funds are in my bank the following morning my time. So, if I was in the same time zone as Eric, the funds are in my account the same day. Also, each time I need to wire funds from my e-gold to my account in Jakarta, I always call him on the phone just to make sure that he has the funds and that I do not need to wait several days. One other thing about Eric that I like is that when I am on the phone with him, I am treated with a lot of respect. Not because I am special more than others but this is the way he is. So far, as I said, I have not had any problems or delays. Thanks Be Blessed, MIKE Get your Visa Gold Card Now. http://212.24.211.150/ao/index.cgi/110131 - Original Message - From: "Eric Gaither" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: "k.sweeney" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 11:16 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem Joe, Hi, Joe! I must admit, even the best of the Market Makers occasionally get bogged down in fulfilling orders and have lapses in quality customer service from time to time. I must admit I have had my share of "breakdowns" in my history as a Market Maker! I sympathize with your situation. Please understand the Omnipay is a rather large company now and deals with a great volume of orders on a daily basis. From time to time, "situations" such as your's do arise. I am sure it was a simple oversight, not a personal grudge or attempt to keep your funds from you. Perhaps on your next exchange you might want to consider employing the services of one of the many smaller, independent Market Makers. Most of us put our emphasis on "quality" vs. "quantity" and dedicate ourselves to providing outstanding support (prompt replies to questions, answering calls, quick turn-around times) to our clients in return for slightly higher rates. Take a look at the e-gold directory page and scan the dozen or so independent MM's listed there. If you are serious about your desire for quality Customer Service, I humbly ask that you consider Gaithmans: http://businesses.msn.com/GEGE/ Regardless of your decision, I wish you the best with your on-line ventures and electronic currency transactions! Hang in there, many of e-gold, Ltd's and GSR's (dba Omnipay) staff read this discussion list daily. I am confident one of them will see your posting and take necessary steps to correct the situation! Respectfully, Eric Gaither, President Gaithmans Gold Nation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "E. Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:44 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem I recent transferred gold to Omnipay's account and ordered a check. THIRTEEN days later, the check was processed. I've queried Omnipay via email as to the ridiculous wait and have had no response. I long ago quit bothering with their 800 number as no one ever answers nor do they ever call back. Has anyone else been having this problem? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem
Mr. Barnes, I would like to second Khurram's suggestion. PaybyGold is an excellent service that allows you a great deal of flexibility in payment by check with e-gold. Khurram's service comes highly recommended! Respectfully, Eric Gaither, President Gaithmans Gold Nation, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Khurram Khan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 23, 2001 12:34 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Omnipay Non-Response and Delay Problem Hello Mr. Barnes, Perhaps you would like to try PayByGold. It offers a similar servie to OmniPay. Order a check and have it sent to anywhere you want. Khurram --- "E. Barnes" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I recent transferred gold to Omnipay's account and ordered a check. THIRTEEN days later, the check was processed. I've queried Omnipay via email as to the ridiculous wait and have had no response. I long ago quit bothering with their 800 number as no one ever answers nor do they ever call back. Has anyone else been having this problem? --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ Get email for your site --- http://www.everyone.net --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] WiseAssets Offshore Exchange launches
Botollo Financial Group is proud to announce the launch of its WiseAssets e-gold exchange service. WiseAssets is the international gold source for the sophisticated client who expects more. For too long discriminating investors have demanded a source for electronic gold that understands the needs of the offshore client. WiseAssets was founded by international businessmen, who appreciate the need for convenience, security, and privacy. WiseAssets provides the burgeoning gold economy with the first exclusively international gateway. Join the hundreds of thousands who enjoy the benefits returning to gold as money, online: http://www.WiseAssets.com George Freeman WiseAssets.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] please post please post please post
Please post three times. Dagny ;-D = Dagny Taggart __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Auctions - Buy the things you want at great prices! http://auctions.yahoo.com/ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: PayPal article
http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/02/23/pay_pal/index.html Who is this Brody fellow who took $20,000 in bad payments through PayPal selling e-gold? Which exchange service is he running? I also tend to resent their implication that e-gold sellers somehow 'know' that the money is coming from shady characters? Obviously, PayPal doesn't 'know' they are shady characters? Craig --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Thiel's sloppy libel
letter to editor of salon.com regarding http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/02/23/pay_pal/index.html _ Peter Thiel, according to today's salon.com article (correctly) describing the repudiable nature of PayPal payments, apparently regards it as appropriate to make reckless allegations that depict e-gold(r) http://www.e-gold.com as some sort of system to "launder funds". This (probably actionable) remark is especially ironic given the multiple attempts that Gold Silver Reserve, Inc. and other companies have made to help PayPal address PayPal's severe fraud problems. Gold Silver Reserve, Inc. was the original developer and operator of the e-gold system. It now functions as the primary distributor of e-gold with its OmniPay service http://www.omnipay.net , a system of online exchange that functions as a hybrid payment system in its own right. OmniPay, by the way, accepts national currency payments only by wire transfer (subject to a $3000 minimum) because wire is the only non-repudiable method for receiving payments that involve the banking system. The first time we heard of x.com and PayPal was around November 1999 when our fraud detection protocols were triggered by a series of suspicious wires from x.com. We contacted Kathy "I guess I'M the fraud manager!" Donovan and informed her of our suspicions. x.com (shortly afterward merged with PayPal) never was able in that episode to even reconstruct how funds had been taken from their bank account. We actually had to explain to them that available funds and good funds are not synonymous and that their practice of ACH debit for funding accounts was an invitation for fraudsters. They mentioned to our amazement that they did not even capture IP numbers with the online application they were using at the time. Since then we have detected and thwarted multiple episodes of would-be crooks who, having already taken PayPal to the cleaners, attempted to rip off our company or companies we do business with. In several incidents we have offered to help PayPal identify and prosecute obvious crooks but the attitude of their responses (like many banks) was that they would rather cover up the fact that they are being inundated by fraud rather than risk loss of investor confidence. Like so many dotcoms they seem to be in the business of raising money from investors, as opposed to earning profits (the former they have excelled at, the latter I doubt will ever occur). To set the record straight regarding what e-gold is and how ridiculous it would be to use it as a system to hide the proceeds of crime... e-gold enables people to use gold like they would money. e-gold is backed 100% by gold in allocated storage* under the signatory control of a third party escrow agent, titled to the e-gold Bullion Reserve Special Purpose Trust for the exclusive benefit of all e-gold account holders collectively. A person with an e-gold balance can click some to another account holder. These transfers settle immediately and, unlike PayPal or credit card transactions, are non-repudiable. e-gold is account based, so the entire lineage of any value stream is logged - right back to the time that value entered the e-gold universe via exchange. Sophisticated pattern matching protocols detect activities such as smurfing (attempts to structure transactions in a way to disguise large flows of value). Please note that the e-gold shopping cart interface enables automation that enables a recipient to programmatically post accounts as paid and to deliver goods and services with total confidence that payment (including micropayments) is fully and irreversibly settled. The maximum cost of receiving an e-gold payment is 50 cents (US$-equiv.). For values under $50 the fee for receiving payment is 1%. There have been over 2 million e-gold transactions** even though, unlike PayPal, e-gold never needed to give money away as an inducement to open accounts, and in fact has never done much of anything in the way of marketing/promotion. Douglas Jackson, MD Chairman, OmniPay 175 East Nasa Blvd., Suite 300 Melbourne, FL 32901 (800) 909-6590 * see http://www.e-gold.com/examiner.html ** see http://www.e-gold.com/stats.html --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thiel's sloppy libel
At 4:23 PM -0500 2/23/01, Douglas Jackson wrote: Peter Thiel, according to today's salon.com article (correctly) describing the repudiable nature of PayPal payments, apparently regards it as appropriate to make reckless allegations that depict e-gold(r) http://www.e-gold.com as some sort of system to "launder funds". This (probably actionable) remark is especially ironic ^ I could not agree more Doug! Jesus! If someone made such colorings about my company I'd be on the fone to the lawyers before I put the bloody paper down. I feel an action here could send a clear signal that it is absurd to associate e-gold with such crap. Go for it! --- "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Complaint
My account number is 255857 My passphrase is gold9amg I'd appreciate if someone could login to my account to check if it works. I don't have money in my account yet, that's why I'm giving away the passphrase. If I ever can login, I'll change it. Every time I try to login, after ages of waiting I get this message: "The e-gold system is unable to process your request at this time, please try again in a few minutes." I didn't leave Caps-Lock on, my passphrase IS CORRECT (I wrote it at the time I signed up) and I'm not a hacker trying to steal from anywhere, I JUST WANT TO GET TO MY E-GOLD ACCOUNT. My complaint is with the lousy e-gold customer service. I wrote to [EMAIL PROTECTED], referencing my e-gold account number in the subject, but I had no answer. Why don't they use this system?: If you forget your password, you just submit a form where you enter your account number, then a message with the passphrase is sent to the e-mail address in the account. I lost time signing up for a service that doesn't work and I don't even get a response. Now the only thing I need is someone from the e-gold service telling me to go to hell and I make my day. Seems they have enough members and they can easily get rid of someone. I hope I'm wrong with this, but I'm really angry. If someone helps me, thank you very much. Alexis. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: 1s South African E-Gold Xchange
The have already objected and so we'll try EGOLI - XCHANGE now! - Original Message - From: "Michael Moore" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "Georg" [EMAIL PROTECTED]; "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 February 2001 08:36 Subject: Re: [e-gold-list] 1s South African E-Gold Xchange As I said...if e-gold don't like it they will make that fact known. Egoli sounds great. Egoli.com Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542 subscribe to the gold-today discussion group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldtoday - Original Message - From: "Georg" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, February 19, 2001 8:57 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] 1s South African E-Gold Xchange Dear List Members, We have just become aware of the discussion about possible trade mark infringement, by using the term E-gold in our name. This was not our intention at all. We somehow didn't even think of that potential problem. -apologies!- E-Gold have contacted us with the request to remove the term e-gold from our name, which of course we will do. The URL will be changed slightly later. by the way, I live in a city that is commonly called "Egoli - city of gold" (Johannesburg), maybe I must put that in our name rather. Georg Ritschl Contour Marketing cc. SA-Egoldxchange.com (to be changed) --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thiel's sloppy libel
Viking: should it happen : yes WILL it happen I'm willing to bet not. even the bananagold people (who I have a LOT of time for) stepped back and waited for someone else to pick up the ball. the libel is on any and every person who ever acted as a market maker... One of them shoulld act... (I know Eric has had problems with paypal before...!!) but who wants to kick off the lawsuit??? hmmm should we start an account to PAY for such a suit??? btw I personally think this suing thinfg is silly... I'fd rather send paypal broke by telling any and everyone I know that theor services suck!! Such word of mouth has kileedmany more businesses far quicker than a lawsuit... (maybe thats the aussie in me..don't muck about with the lawyers.. address the heart of the problem!!) From: "Viking Coder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "e-gold Discussion" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: Thiel's sloppy libel Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2001 22:13:45 -0500 Peter Thiel said "I don't think [he and other e-Gold merchants] are totally innocent either," Thiel says. "They certainly know that much of the money they're receiving is from suspicious sources." Douglas Jackson wrote Peter Thiel, according to today's salon.com article (correctly) describing the repudiable nature of PayPal payments, apparently regards it as appropriate to make reckless allegations that depict e-gold(r) http://www.e-gold.com as some sort of system to "launder funds". This (probably actionable) remark is especially ironic Do it! He accused e-gold and all the market makers of being willing accomplices to money laundering and fraud. This definitely falls within the scope of a libel/slander lawsuit aimed directly at Mr. Thiel. This could actually be a class-action lawsuit considering that he libeled about a couple dozen corporate entities. Viking Coder --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Is Standard Reserve a Scam?
Tom Standard Reserve Debit Cards are on the way. We thought all our problems were over two weeks ago. The first cards were delivered over ten days ago, but when we tested them at the ATM, they failed to work. We complained to our supplier. They dragged their feet, or could not work out what it was about. Then they finally cracked the problem last evening. We have a final test on Monday morning at 6am and another at 8am. We are assured by our supplier that the problem has been fixed. We will know for absolutely sure on Monday morning. Should the test go well on Monday morning, cards will leave our supplier from Monday onwards. We have several hundred to deliver. Delivery will take between 7 to 10 days depending where you are. Certainly overseas people will have to wait a little longer. Thank you for asking the question. We will deliver!! I will personally keep you posted on Monday. Please check your e-mail to see a note on this list about the tests. Dr Elwyn Jenkins Standard Reserve and The Gold Economy ++ - Original Message - From: "tom tommy" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2001 11:30 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Is Standard Reserve a Scam? Waht's going on with the delivery of the highly praised debit cards??? They don't reply to any inquiries, and the issuance/shipment is long past due. Does someone on this list know more? Tom --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Is Standard Reserve a Scam?
They don't reply to any inquiries, I would like to know what inquires you have not had an answer to? I personally take phone calls when people feel that they have not had their calls answered. Standard Reserve has new phone numbers. You can call us directly on +1 404 760 0606 during eastern standard business hours in the USA. People are also in the office from about 4am in the morning. You can send us an e-mail at [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR if you do not get attention you can forward an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] OR [EMAIL PROTECTED] Should you find that still you do not get an answer go to my personal site www.elwynjenkins.com and there you will find details as to how to contact me personally. We try to be the most contactable people in the world. Our executives are on ICQ for more than 14 hours a day, and we also answer e-mails promptly. Have we failed? Please tell us where so that we can ensure it does not happen again!! Dr Elwyn Jenkins CEO Standard Reserve and Editor The Gold Economy ++ --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Is Standard Reserve a Scam?
Hi Dr. Jenkins, It's good to see you on the list, as I've written to you a number of times about placing an article on your web site, in return to your REQUEST for articles posted here. I hope you can catch up to your email soon! JP May Dr Elwyn Jenkins Standard Reserve and The Gold Economy ++ --- "A government that robs Peter to pay Paul can always depend upon the support of Paul." -- George Bernard Shaw --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: I need 100k in gold
I believe you have two choices when you want 100K in e-gold: 1) www.OmniPay.net 2) www.GoldfingerCoin.com Craig - Original Message - From: "Randy Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] I need 100k in gold Hello All, I need 100,000 in E-gold. if you are interested please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please list any fees that are associated with the transaction. thanks Randy --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Is Standard Reserve a Scam?
I need to reply to this question, too; Standard Reserve has answered all of my inquiries within 24 hours -- and I've had several. Sincerely, Craig Haynie GoldDirectory.com --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: I need 100k in gold
There is also www.goldnow.st and gaithmans gold nation Inc - Original Message - From: "SnowDog" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 4:38 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] Re: I need 100k in gold I believe you have two choices when you want 100K in e-gold: 1) www.OmniPay.net 2) www.GoldfingerCoin.com Craig - Original Message - From: "Randy Johnson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 10:37 PM Subject: [e-gold-list] I need 100k in gold Hello All, I need 100,000 in E-gold. if you are interested please email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please list any fees that are associated with the transaction. thanks Randy --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: Thiel's sloppy libel
Paypals alleged and dangerously inaccurate remarks, as outlined by Damien Cave, insinuating that e-gold is knowingly aware of receiving funds which may be illegal do nothing to divert attention from what is essentially a frail system full of security holes and with no evident professional verification proccess in place. It does, however, open the door to a possible massive lawsuit from e-gold and many market makers I might add. Another nail in the tattered coffinof paypal perhaps? It begs the question. Why are they in business? Yes there maybe crimminals who will attempt to use the e-gold system. They also use the paypal system, and the banking system. in fact any system they can and it is a fact of life that they are not going to go away so you have to accept them and learn how to deal with them. e-gold has what is perhaps one of the most secure transactional systems around. However it does have a weakness. It's entry point. e-gold/GSR/Omnipay's handling of this is to distance themselves from the entry point through the use of market makers who are expected to carry the risk and put in place processes to reduce that risk as small as possible. This is why speedy, accurate but unobtrusive verification for the market maker is so vitally important, as many have found to their cost. I was slack jawed, for example , when I read that paypal does not even track the IP addresses of it's customers. I do not know how paypal works behind the scenes but as they accept credit cards and assuming they use a banking institution and a gateway I am wondering now what their chargeback rate is and how come they are still in business? Such a self admitted aggressive approach to the detriment of innocent clients surely indicates a dangerous level of fraud from a banks point of view. Aggressive tactics may be warranted in the face of massive fraud attacks, but only to the correct target. You don't kick the cat when the car does not start. It seems that paypal has yet to learn that lession. Kind regards, [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gold-today.com Sign up with e-gold today and get grams of e-gold here. https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=129542 subscribe to the gold-today discussion group at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goldtoday - Original Message - From: "Douglas Jackson" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: "e-gold Discussion" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2001 8:23 AM Subject: [e-gold-list] Thiel's sloppy libel letter to editor of salon.com regarding http://www.salon.com/tech/feature/2001/02/23/pay_pal/index.html _ Peter Thiel, according to today's salon.com article (correctly) describing the repudiable nature of PayPal payments, apparently regards it as appropriate to make reckless allegations that depict e-gold(r) http://www.e-gold.com as some sort of system to "launder funds". This (probably actionable) remark is especially ironic given the multiple attempts that Gold Silver Reserve, Inc. and other companies have made to help PayPal address PayPal's severe fraud problems. Gold Silver Reserve, Inc. was the original developer and operator of the e-gold system. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[e-gold-list] Re: WiseAssets Offshore Exchange launches
George, Welcome to the Market Makers of the World (MMW)... if I can be of assistance, don't hesitate to ask! BTW, where are you located? Cheers! Graham Kelly CEO GoldNow Corporation http://www.GoldNow.St Phone +44 (0)709-233-7612 Fax +1(312)777-4270 Want a debit card linked to your e-gold account? Apply at my site! https://www.standardreserve.com/acct/instant_anywhere_application.asp?CID=10 https://www.e-gold.com/newacct/newaccount.asp?cid=103346 "George Freeman" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Botollo Financial Group is proud to announce the launch of its WiseAssets e-gold exchange service. WiseAssets is the international gold source for the sophisticated client who expects more. For too long discriminating investors have demanded a source for electronic gold that understands the needs of the offshore client. WiseAssets was founded by international businessmen, who appreciate the need for convenience, security, and privacy. WiseAssets provides the burgeoning gold economy with the first exclusively international gateway. Join the hundreds of thousands who enjoy the benefits returning to gold as money, online: http://www.WiseAssets.com George Freeman WiseAssets.com _ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- You are currently subscribed to e-gold-list as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
