Re: [Firebird-docs] ATTN Norman: isql guide

2011-07-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 18/07/11 14:37, Dmitry Yemanov wrote:
 SHOW commands operate on a separate transaction from user statements.
 They run as READ COMMITTED background statements and acknowledge all
 metadata changes immediately.
Thanks. I've updated the isql manual with these details.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] XML Mind new version - Warnings!

2011-09-26 Thread Norman Dunbar
On 26/09/11 03:16, Paul Vinkenoog wrote:
 On Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:10:26 +0200, Norman Dunbar wrote:
Eh? ;-)

  ...
 Solved! Now is that quick or what? :-)
Extremely - thanks!

Actually, since I originally posted that, I've been using XML Mind 
version 4.3.0_01 which is happy to handle xincludes without - as far as 
I know - requiring xerces.

I can honestly say that xinclude is by far a wonderful way of including 
another document - or part of another document - easily. Equally, the 
other document can be edited in XML Mind as it  has the docbook header 
present.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Update of build system

2011-09-27 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Paul,

 The value in the penultimate line looks dodgy to me. Should that comma be 
 there?
 Yes, it's a delimiter. Everything in docbook/images/callouts *and* everything 
 in images must be copied.
Ok, thanks.

 PS. Build monohtml takes 37 seconds with Sun Java compared to over 12 
 minutes (to fail) with OpenJDK.
 For the entire set, 37 seconds is acceptable I guess. For a single document, 
 it's long (on a modern system).
I did another set of timings:

monohtml: 37 seconds
html: 35 seconds
pdf: 41 seconds
docs: 1:33.

The sum of the parts doesn't add up to the total for everything. I 
suspect lots of stuff whizzing into and out of memory - seeing as how 
ant is Java and xml etc.

Most likely delays are in writing the thousands or warnings to the 
console I expect! ;-)


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[Firebird-docs] Checking out the B_Release branch

2011-10-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
If you are a bit weak on the workings or CVS, like I am, then the 
following will hopefully help you check out the new B_Release branch of 
the manual module.


#
# get into my normal working area.
#
cd  SourceCode/cvs/firebird/

#
# Create a new directory for the branch.
#
mkdir b_release
cd b_release

#
# Checkout the new branch into the current directory.
# (All on one line!)
# Replace my_username with your Source Forge username.
# Note: Spelling of B_Release is critical!
#
cvs -z6 
-d:ext:my_usern...@firebird.cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/firebird 
checkout -r B_Release manual

#
# Did it work?
#
ls


At this point you should find that you have a new directory called 
manual in your current directory. That is the B_Release branch.

The B_Release branch is only for manuals that are complete and build 
correctly. DO NOT commit any half edited or unbuildable manuals into 
this branch please. (Lest Paul descend upon you with wrath!)

So, when you are working on manuals the easiest process to follow is:

* Edit everything in the working location - 
/SourceCode/cvs/firebird/manual/src/docs/firebirddocs in my case. Feel 
free to commit partial changes etc to this location.

* Build the completed docs, and check them for correctness, pdf 
overflows, spelling etc.

* When satisfied, commit them into cvs in the usual manner.

So far, nothing spectacular. However, once the manual(s) are complete 
and build correctly, they are ready for release. They must be copied 
into the B_Release branch.

* Copy any updated manuals' XML files into the b_release location - 
/SourceCode/cvs/firebird/b_release/manual/src/docs/firebirddocs/ in my case.

* Commit these documents back to cvs in the usual manner.


HTH


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Re: [Firebird-docs] firebirdintro.xml

2011-10-13 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Paul,

 Are there any objections to sending firebirdintro.xml to the attic? It's a 
 stub, written ages ago by David Jencks and it's not likely that we are ever 
 going to use it.
Not from me. As far as I can see, it's never used.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] firebirddocs.xml and subtree updated

2011-10-13 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Paul,

  Norman, I've also done this in one of your documents: fbdoc_vpn.xml, 
because I wanted fb-docwriters-info.xml and subdocuments to be 
consistent. Hope you don't mind. I left the rest of your stuff alone ;-)
Hmm. Surely the fbdoc_vpn.xml file is as equally obsolete as the 
firebirdintro.xml? The VPN method of accessing the server to upload 
documents is no longer in use what with the new CMS and the 
(blisteringly fast) new server? I was considering deleting that file.

I was actually working, yesterday, on my command line utility manuals to 
allow them to be included - so I've got a couple of changes in that 
department coming soon myself.

 Also, XMLMind complained that fbutil_gbak.xml was invalid: you should wrap 
 therevhistory  in apara  tot fix it. It doesn't matter for the build 
 though: the build system doesn't validate the sources against the DocBook DTD 
 - it just breaks if things get too weird, or if the XML is not well-formed.
Yes, I noticed that but only after I use includes. Strange. The 
revision in question was copied and pasted in XXE. I'm looking into this 
at the moment. It's a tad strange!

 Anyway, for everybody who has a local copy of the manual tree, it's probably 
 a good idea to do a cvs update.
Consider it about to be done.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Upload server problems?

2012-10-31 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Paul,

On 31/10/12 02:54, Paul Vinkenoog wrote:

 Maybe some update on the Firebird server or - as Lester suggests - due to the 
 fact that you cleaned up things on your side. FWIW, I can connect without any 
 problem. User names and passwords aren't used, only pubkeys. Yours is still 
 there; I checked it against the one you sent me back in August 2010 and it's 
 identical. The associated email address is nor...@hubble.dunbar-it.co.uk, but 
 AFAIK that part is just informational (1). You don't provide an email address 
 when connecting; just as long as your system has the private key that 
 corresponds to the public key on the server, things should work out.
I do still have my private key to match the public one already submitted 
I made a serious point of making sure I preserved everything in /home!

This is what happens, with a lot of the messages removed for brevity:

norman@hubble ~ $ ssh nor...@www.firebirdsql.org
@@@
@   WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!  @
@@@
The RSA host key for www.firebirdsql.org has changed,
and the key for the corresponding IP address 62.141.46.210
is unknown.
...
@@@
@WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! @
@@@
IT IS POSSIBLE THAT SOMEONE IS DOING SOMETHING NASTY!
...
It is also possible that a host key has just been changed.
The fingerprint for the RSA key sent by the remote host is
88:5e:b0:80:96:c0:e2:89:f8:52:a4:d8:a1:bc:9b:5f.
Please contact your system administrator.
Add correct host key in /home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts to get rid of this 
message.
Offending RSA key in /home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts:29
   remove with: ssh-keygen -f /home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts -R 
www.firebirdsql.org
RSA host key for www.firebirdsql.org has changed and you have requested 
strict checking.
Host key verification failed.

norman@hubble ~ $ ssh-keygen -f /home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts -R 
www.firebirdsql.org
/home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts updated.
Original contents retained as /home/norman/.ssh/known_hosts.old

norman@hubble ~ $ ssh nor...@www.firebirdsql.org
The authenticity of host 'www.firebirdsql.org (78.47.172.252)' can't be 
established.
RSA key fingerprint is 91:3e:7e:28:ff:be:a5:c1:1d:f2:e1:bf:7c:ff:10:e6.
Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes
Warning: Permanently added 'www.firebirdsql.org' (RSA) to the list of 
known hosts.
Permission denied (publickey).

norman@hubble ~ $ ssh nor...@www.firebirdsql.org
@@@
@   WARNING: POSSIBLE DNS SPOOFING DETECTED!  @
@@@
...


Ok, from the above I can see one or two things:

* has the ip address changed on the server? The warning says that it is 
62.141.46.210 while the second attempt is telling me it's 78.47.172.252.

* why is it telling me that the fingerprint is 
88:5e:b0:80:96:c0:e2:89:f8:52:a4:d8:a1:bc:9b:5f in the warnings and when 
I connect it says it is 91:3e:7e:28:ff:be:a5:c1:1d:f2:e1:bf:7c:ff:10:e6 
instead?

The above repeats as long as I want to keep trying. The warnings say one 
things the connection says another - and the end result is the same, I 
don't get a connection.

If I ping the server I get 78.47.172.252 - so the warnings appear to be 
a pile of poo!

I'll keep investigating 


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Upload server problems?

2012-10-31 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Helen,

(or is it, where you are?)


On 31/10/12 08:59, Helen Borrie wrote:

 I don't think any of us has SFTP access to www.firebirdsql.org.
To be honest, I can't remember! I'm sure I did have ssh and sftp to 
wherever we upload our docs to - I have to supply Sergey with a public 
key a long time back.

  ...

 78.47.172.252 is the IP address corresponding to cms.firebirdsql.org, which 
 is where we ordinary mortals upload and edit stuff.

norman@hubble ~ $ nslookup cms.firebirdsql.org
Server: 127.0.0.1
Address:127.0.0.1#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   cms.firebirdsql.org
Address: 78.47.172.253

252? or 253? I have an email from Sergey from 11th October 2011 telling 
me to login as www-data@78.47.172.253 and no password would be required.

It seems this is not the case as I get prompted for www-data's password. 
Anyway, I'm having another conversation with Sergey even as I type. 
Hopefully, all will be well soon.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Error while building PDF

2017-05-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Sorry, auto correct trashed my reply!

OpenJDK was no use either.

Cheers,
Norm.

On 12 May 2017 09:40:09 BST, Norman Dunbar <nor...@dunbar-it.co.uk> wrote:
>Morning Martin,
>
>I think that the IcedTea java environment is not suitable for fop to
>create pdfs. I've got a recollection that this has bugged me in the
>past. I'm pretty sure you need Sun/Oracle jave.
>
>Opened was no use either, at least according to a post of mine from
>2011 (Update of Build System thread.)
>
>HTH
>
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Re: [Firebird-docs] Error while building PDF

2017-05-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning Martin,

I think that the IcedTea java environment is not suitable for fop to create 
pdfs. I've got a recollection that this has bugged me in the past. I'm pretty 
sure you need Sun/Oracle jave.

Opened was no use either, at least according to a post of mine from 2011 
(Update of Build System thread.)

HTH

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Test repository CVS to git migration

2017-10-17 Thread Norman Dunbar
If anyone is interested, Pro Git (Second Edition) by Scott Chacon and 
Ben Straub is officially available as PDF or EPUB from Springer's Web 
Site at https://www.springer.com/gb/book/9781484200773 - I believe that 
Springer are associated with Apress who publish the book.


The book is also available to read online at 
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2 - which is interesting as I'm sure I've 
downloaded the PDF from there in the past. (Must check!)


You can also get the ASCIIDOC source code for the book from Github at 
https://github.com/progit/progit2 and build a copy for yourself.


The book is Open Source, (CC Attribution Non-Commercial Share-alike 3.0 
Unported Licence) and you are encouraged to fix errors and create pull 
requests to get the corrections (and your name!) in the next edition.  ;-)


HTH

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Test repository CVS to git migration

2017-10-17 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 17/10/17 14:41, Paul Beach wrote:

I'm sure I've
downloaded the PDF from there in the past. (Must check!)


https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007%2F978-1-4842-0076-6

Regards
Paul



Thanks Paul, but I was referring to the fact that I had, in the past, 
downloaded the book from the  https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2  address. :-)


I already have it from the Springer address too, so I have both versions.

Thanks again.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] ATTN committers: SourceForge to terminate CVS support on November 30th

2017-10-09 Thread Norman Dunbar
I agree with the git option too.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Test repository CVS to git migration

2017-10-18 Thread Norman Dunbar

Afternoon Paul,

On 18/10/17 14:08, Paul Vinkenoog wrote:


A number of source files in my (Windows) CVS working dir have Unix line endings 
though, whereas their Git counterparts have DOS endings.

That's no problem, as long as it doesn't lead to a huge number of 'changes' and 
log messages when such a file is committed, cluttering the history and drowning 
the real changes.


This is a documented feature of Git.

Github has a document about how you can set up your git client to cope 
with this. The URL is 
https://help.github.com/articles/dealing-with-line-endings/.


From the online "Pro Git" book, we have this from 
https://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Configuration (scroll 
down!):



core.autocrlf

If you’re programming on Windows and working with people who are not (or 
vice-versa), you’ll probably run into line-ending issues at some point. 
This is because Windows uses both a carriage-return character and a 
linefeed character for newlines in its files, whereas Mac and Linux 
systems use only the linefeed character. This is a subtle but incredibly 
annoying fact of cross-platform work; many editors on Windows silently 
replace existing LF-style line endings with CRLF, or insert both 
line-ending characters when the user hits the enter key.


Git can handle this by auto-converting CRLF line endings into LF when 
you add a file to the index, and vice versa when it checks out code onto 
your filesystem. You can turn on this functionality with the 
core.autocrlf setting. If you’re on a Windows machine, set it to true – 
this converts LF endings into CRLF when you check out code:


$ git config --global core.autocrlf true

If you’re on a Linux or Mac system that uses LF line endings, then you 
don’t want Git to automatically convert them when you check out files; 
however, if a file with CRLF endings accidentally gets introduced, then 
you may want Git to fix it. You can tell Git to convert CRLF to LF on 
commit but not the other way around by setting core.autocrlf to input:


$ git config --global core.autocrlf input

This setup should leave you with CRLF endings in Windows checkouts, but 
LF endings on Mac and Linux systems and in the repository.


If you’re a Windows programmer doing a Windows-only project, then you 
can turn off this functionality, recording the carriage returns in the 
repository by setting the config value to false:


$ git config --global core.autocrlf false


So, windows users need:

$ git config --global core.autocrlf true

and Linux and Mac users need:

$ git config --global core.autocrlf input



Anyway, I guess that won't occur if we commit all our work to CVS before the 
conversion/transition, get a fresh git clone afterwards and work only from 
that. Am I right?


In a word, yes. Provided that you configure the Git client before 
checking out and definitely before checking in.



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Re: [Firebird-docs] Test repository CVS to git migration

2017-10-18 Thread Norman Dunbar

On 18/10/17 15:15, Mark Rotteveel wrote:

Given the normalization done during conversion, that should not be a 
problem (unless a new file extension is introduced that isn't considered 
a text file by the configuration of the conversion).


The thing I mentioned with autocrlf is the old way of doing things, up 
to Git 1.6 I think. From then on, .gitattributes is the way to go.


However, if a new file type appears, Git will determine whether it is a 
text file by checking to see if it fails the tests for binary files.


There's a good explanation of why it might be best to have both settings 
at http://adaptivepatchwork.com/2012/03/01/mind-the-end-of-your-line/.



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Re: [Firebird-docs] SourceForge CVS to GitHub migration done

2017-11-12 Thread Norman Dunbar
Thanks for all the hard work on the migration Mark - it is appreciated.

Would having issues enabled be better for people to log bugs in the docs 
perhaps?


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Test repository CVS to git migration

2017-11-04 Thread Norman Dunbar

Hi Mark,

On 04/11/17 12:42, Mark Rotteveel wrote:

And although it is not an impediment for the migration itself, it would 
be handy to have a list of the GitHub usernames of contributors that 
need commit access to the repository.


Mine is "NormanDunbar" - if you want it now that is!

Alternatively, contributors could use forks and use pull requests for 
their contributions.


I think that this might be the better idea, but it will mean that a 
"benevolent dictator" (or similar) would be required to actually check 
and merge the pull requests. It's reasonably simple to have a fork and 
keep it up to date with a remote pointing at the original repository, 
and a "git pull" from that remote.



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Re: [Firebird-docs] Experimenting with asciidoc / asciidoctor

2018-06-22 Thread Norman Dunbar
Issue 921 opened on github. (Asciidoctor-pdf)

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Can contribute

2018-04-24 Thread Norman Dunbar
I thought the VPN was ancient history? Am I wrong?

I remember writing the docs for how to use it, and then it got changed so that 
we simply provide an ssh public key (but not dsa!) and that gives us access to 
sftp our documents directly to the web site. I need to write a new set of "how 
to upload" manuals!

Correct me please, if I'm wrong - it wouldn't be the first time! 


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Request for testing gradle build to replace ant build

2020-03-05 Thread Norman Dunbar

Hi Mark, Paul,

I've been attempting to get Gradle working on my box to try out the new 
build. Finally found time. :)


Of course, it's not yet mnerged, I assume it's still in your fork Mark? 
If so, I'll get a few attempts at building done soon.




Then I'll start experimenting with asciidoc/asciidoctor.



If you need any questions, I might be able to help - having just done an 
entire 400 page book in Asciidoctor, using asciidoctor-pdf as the 
generator. One thing you will find useful is this:



// If the backend is PDF then do this.
ifdef::backend-pdf[]
[width=60%, cols="20%,40%,20%,20%", align = "center", caption="Table 9."]
endif::[]

// If the backend is html, then do this instead.
ifdef::backend-html5[]
[width=60%, cols="20%,40%,20%,20%", float = "center", caption="Table 9."]
endif::[]

.2 - ADC prescaler settings and frequencies.
|===

// Insert Table Contents Here //

|===


I found that when generating tables in a PDF and HTML, they need 
different commands to centre them on the page.


It's a bit of a bind that the widths cannot be written then the ifdef 
embedded, so you have to duplicate the widths etc in both options.


Captions are interesting. The above would give a table the caption of 
"Table 9.2 - ADC prescaler settings and frequencies"



Asciidoctor has manual table/listing/etc numbering so moving or adding 
sections will require lots of updating of captions etc. A right major 
pain! (Ask me how I know!)




Good luck and have fun with asciidoctor.



(My current book is being written in Lyx!)


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Re: [Firebird-docs] doc building failure

2020-01-11 Thread Norman Dunbar
My build system is Oracle Java 8 as it's the most recent version that works.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] doc building failure

2020-01-07 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Mark,

it has never worked with Open JDK for as long as I've been involved. I'm sure I 
posted either here or in a Doc about it and how to get around it.

Good luck.

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On 7 January 2020 12:24:16 GMT, Mark Rotteveel  wrote:
>On 2020-01-06 17:21, Norman Dunbar wrote:
>> And, if you have got the proper libraries and tools installed, you
>> need to use an Oracle version of Java with a version 8 or lower, or
>it
>> will not build with Open JDK, nor will it build with Java 9 and
>> higher.
>
>I haven't build the docs recently, but I'd be surprised if it works
>with 
>Oracle Java 8, but fails with OpenJDK 8. I'll see if I can reproduce it
>
>and come up with a fix.
>
>Mark
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Re: [Firebird-docs] Do we need/want chunked HTML?

2020-03-08 Thread Norman Dunbar
Hi Mark,

I actually prefer chunky html, sorry. It loads quicker over single files.

True, I can't search the whole file, but if I needed that I'd use the pdf.

Having said that, I'm happy to lose the chunky version, if necessary.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Example of new documentation

2020-05-18 Thread Norman Dunbar
Morning All,

Hopefully we are all staying safe.

I'm with Paul, the second version is much better.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] First 'new' documents online

2020-05-26 Thread Norman Dunbar

Hi Martin,

I don't believe that you can, currently, create chunked HTML with 
Asciidoctor. s Mark stated in his thread recently about Chunked HTML:


Asciidoctor does not support chunked HTML output (there is an 
experimental, third-party plugin, but that plugin is tied to a specific, 
out-of-date asciidoctor version).



HTH

Cheers,
Norm.


On 26/05/2020 14:17, Köditz, Martin wrote:

Please, forget my previous Mail. I found everything in the new Docs.

But how can I create the chunked output?

Regards
Martin




Hi Mark,

I'd like to update the German docs. What do I have to do?

Regards
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Re: [Firebird-docs] Style of rendering parameters

2020-05-30 Thread Norman Dunbar
I prefer the definition list.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] gstat OST - OIT and Sweep

2020-07-31 Thread Norman Dunbar
Oh dear, I wrote that!

Originally, if I remember correctly, I might have mentioned that the sweep 
would be started when OAT - OIT was greater than the sweep interval. This was s 
I had seen in books, online, etc.

Vlad, complained to me that I had written wrongly, and that the sweep would be 
started when OST - OIT was greater than the sweep interval.

OAT = Oldest Active Transaction.
OIT = Oldest Interesting Transaction.
OST = Oldest Snapshot Transaction.


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Re: [Firebird-docs] Conversion of release notes

2020-08-02 Thread Norman Dunbar
Looks excellent from where I'm sitting. Thanks.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Firebird 2.5 Language Reference migration preview

2020-06-03 Thread Norman Dunbar
I favour option 1 then option 2 Mark.

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Re: [Firebird-docs] Experimental chunked output

2021-09-29 Thread Norman Dunbar
I like it. The styling looks good to my eye. The quick TOC pop-up (pop-down) is 
a nice touch.

It's readable on my phone in portrait and landscape mode which is nice. It's a 
little tiny bit too big though and I have to adjust the size slightly. But 
that's not a huge problem.

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>language references.
>
>I have uploaded an example at 
>https://www.firebirdsql.org/file/documentation/chunk/en/refdocs/fblangref40/firebird-40-language-reference.html
>
>Let me know what you think, or if you find odd things. To be clear, I'm 
>not looking for feedback at the styling: I'm using the default styles of 
>docbook-xsltng, and I have done zero styling at this time.
>
>Mark
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