Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

2011-06-18 Thread john
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:48:31 -0700
Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com wrote:

 === On Sat, 06/18, john wrote: ===
  On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:31:39 +0200
  Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:
  
   Am 17.06.2011 23:16, schrieb john:
Hello,

I have installed Plone but unfortunately it will not run. I
believe this is down to PIL not being installed as shown when
starting Zope in foreground. 

I have emerged dev-python/imaging but Zope still cannot see
PIL. I think the issue is because Plone/Zope depends on python
2.4. 

Any recommendations on a fix???

   
   You might have to run python-updater in order to install all
   python-packages for this version. I'm not sure if python-updater
   does this correctly if you don't have python-2.4 enabled via
   `eselect python`. You might want to try this as well.
   
   Hope this helps,
   Florian Philipp
   
  
  I have eselect python2.4 but when running python-updater I get:-
  
   File /usr/bin/portageq, line 98
  except portage.exception.InvalidAtom as e:
^
  SyntaxError: invalid syntax
File /usr/bin/portageq, line 98
  except portage.exception.InvalidAtom as e:
^
  SyntaxError: invalid syntax
   * Python 2 and Python 3 not installed
  
  Have also tried emerge imaging with python2.4 set and get :- 
  
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 44 except PermissionDenied as e:
   ^
  SyntaxError: invalid syntax
  on2.4
 
 You may be hosed. That syntax only works with newer Python
 interpreters. Can you eselect back to 2.6 or 2.7?
 
  Think the python-updater looks forward but not backward (if you see
  what I mean) 
 
 It is called the UPdater, after all.
 
  I have also tried changing all the references in bin scripts from
  python2.4 to python2.7 but this fails miserably. The only thing I
  can think of at the moment is to download manual package and
  install but I'm really not sure where this is going to stick all
  the modules?
 
 Ugh, yep. But Python is slotted, so you shouldn't have to worry about
 that. 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 -- Keith Dart
 
 
 
 --
 ~
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com
 =

Always a little unsure about installing packages
manually. I like to let emerge do everything.

I eselect python set 1 which set python2.4. Downloaded
Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz from Python site. Installed using setup.py install.
Switched back to python2.7.

Old instance would not run but:-

Then created a new zopeinstance. Copied the
contents /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/lib/python
and /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/Products 

to instance

And yippee I can create Plone site and all looks good at the mo

Thanks for advice
-- 
--
--
John D Maunder
j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk



Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.06.2011 08:50, schrieb john:
 On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:48:31 -0700
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com wrote:
 
 === On Sat, 06/18, john wrote: ===
 On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:31:39 +0200
 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:

 Am 17.06.2011 23:16, schrieb john:
 Hello,

 I have installed Plone but unfortunately it will not run. I
 believe this is down to PIL not being installed as shown when
 starting Zope in foreground. 

 I have emerged dev-python/imaging but Zope still cannot see
 PIL. I think the issue is because Plone/Zope depends on python
 2.4. 

 Any recommendations on a fix???


 You might have to run python-updater in order to install all
 python-packages for this version. I'm not sure if python-updater
 does this correctly if you don't have python-2.4 enabled via
 `eselect python`. You might want to try this as well.

[...]

 Think the python-updater looks forward but not backward (if you see
 what I mean) 

 It is called the UPdater, after all.

 I have also tried changing all the references in bin scripts from
 python2.4 to python2.7 but this fails miserably. The only thing I
 can think of at the moment is to download manual package and
 install but I'm really not sure where this is going to stick all
 the modules?

 Ugh, yep. But Python is slotted, so you shouldn't have to worry about
 that. 

 --
 ~
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com
 =
 
 Always a little unsure about installing packages
 manually. I like to let emerge do everything.
 
 I eselect python set 1 which set python2.4. Downloaded
 Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz from Python site. Installed using setup.py install.
 Switched back to python2.7.
 
 Old instance would not run but:-
 
 Then created a new zopeinstance. Copied the
 contents /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/lib/python
 and /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/Products 
 
 to instance
 
 And yippee I can create Plone site and all looks good at the mo
 
 Thanks for advice

I've once ran Plone on Gentoo. I'm pretty sure I didn't have to resort
to manual installing but I can't remember what the solution was. Anyway,
it was too much trouble and I dropped Plone. If I ever have to use it
again, I just use a virtualized Linux installation for it which comes
with python-2.4 out-of-the-box. I'd recommend Scientific Linux-5.5
(update to 5.6 coming soon) as a Red Hat clone.

Regards,
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

2011-06-18 Thread JDM
yeah its not really the way to go but nevermind. Probably won't use it anyway. 
A little too complicated for my needs. Looking for something a bit simpler? 


JDM

-Original Message-
From: Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net
Date: Sat, 18 Jun 2011 12:03:01 
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

Am 18.06.2011 08:50, schrieb john:
 On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 17:48:31 -0700
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com wrote:
 
 === On Sat, 06/18, john wrote: ===
 On Sat, 18 Jun 2011 00:31:39 +0200
 Florian Philipp li...@binarywings.net wrote:

 Am 17.06.2011 23:16, schrieb john:
 Hello,

 I have installed Plone but unfortunately it will not run. I
 believe this is down to PIL not being installed as shown when
 starting Zope in foreground. 

 I have emerged dev-python/imaging but Zope still cannot see
 PIL. I think the issue is because Plone/Zope depends on python
 2.4. 

 Any recommendations on a fix???


 You might have to run python-updater in order to install all
 python-packages for this version. I'm not sure if python-updater
 does this correctly if you don't have python-2.4 enabled via
 `eselect python`. You might want to try this as well.

[...]

 Think the python-updater looks forward but not backward (if you see
 what I mean) 

 It is called the UPdater, after all.

 I have also tried changing all the references in bin scripts from
 python2.4 to python2.7 but this fails miserably. The only thing I
 can think of at the moment is to download manual package and
 install but I'm really not sure where this is going to stick all
 the modules?

 Ugh, yep. But Python is slotted, so you shouldn't have to worry about
 that. 

 --
 ~
 Keith Dart ke...@dart.us.com
 =
 
 Always a little unsure about installing packages
 manually. I like to let emerge do everything.
 
 I eselect python set 1 which set python2.4. Downloaded
 Imaging-1.1.6.tar.gz from Python site. Installed using setup.py install.
 Switched back to python2.7.
 
 Old instance would not run but:-
 
 Then created a new zopeinstance. Copied the
 contents /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/lib/python
 and /usr/share/zproduct/plone-3.1.7/Products 
 
 to instance
 
 And yippee I can create Plone site and all looks good at the mo
 
 Thanks for advice

I've once ran Plone on Gentoo. I'm pretty sure I didn't have to resort
to manual installing but I can't remember what the solution was. Anyway,
it was too much trouble and I dropped Plone. If I ever have to use it
again, I just use a virtualized Linux installation for it which comes
with python-2.4 out-of-the-box. I'd recommend Scientific Linux-5.5
(update to 5.6 coming soon) as a Red Hat clone.

Regards,
Florian Philipp




[gentoo-user] [OT] OOo donated by Oracle to Apache

2011-06-18 Thread Mick
This may be of interest to some:

http://lwn.net/Articles/446093/

Oracle is known for buying assimilating and killing most software that it 
buys, so this is a bit of a surprise.  Perhaps it gave up on the idea of 
competing against Microsoft on the Office suite market space.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] Plone

2011-06-18 Thread Udo Siewert
On Fri, 17 Jun 2011 22:16:32 +0100
john j...@arcticwolf.myzen.co.uk wrote:

 I have installed Plone but unfortunately it will not run. I believe
 this is down to PIL not being installed as shown when starting Zope
 in foreground. 
 
 I have emerged dev-python/imaging but Zope still cannot see PIL. I
 think the issue is because Plone/Zope depends on python 2.4. 
 
 Any recommendations on a fix???

not really, I tried the Gentoo ebuild first but also failed.
Installing the Plone source package from plone.org works fine for me
for months now (uses its own copy of Python, *not* replacing the
system's copy of Python). 

Regards





Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible

2011-06-18 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Fri, Jun 17 2011, David Abbott wrote:

 I am currently connected with a Google Nexus One. I am going to attach
 two files, my current lsmod and /usr/src/linux/.config
 Also I use wicd to connect. I had to add the wired network usb0
 HTH
 David

Thank you very much.  I will  work on this starting monday.  But one
question.  What do you mean by I had to add the wired network usb0?

I have created the symlink net.lo -- net.usb0, but I don't seem to get
any usb0 interface.  Did you do anything else?  I do run wicd.
I am guessing it is kernel options, but just want to make sure that
there isn't some command I am forgetting to issue.

Thanks again,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] OOo donated by Oracle to Apache

2011-06-18 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 18.06.2011 16:52, schrieb Mick:
 This may be of interest to some:
 
 http://lwn.net/Articles/446093/
 
 Oracle is known for buying assimilating and killing most software that it 
 buys, so this is a bit of a surprise.  Perhaps it gave up on the idea of 
 competing against Microsoft on the Office suite market space.

Unfortunately, it will most likely not stop the forked development. I
recommend the older Ars Technica article on this [1]. To sum it up:

1. Most LibreOffice-supporters with the exception of IBM want to stick
with The Document Foundation and LibreOffice.

2. The more permissive Apache license could prove detrimental because it
doesn't mandate publishing your proprietary changes (Libre- and OOo are
under LGPL). OOo could end up being the lowest common denominator
between a range of commercial forks (IBM Lotus Symphony, Oracle Open
Office, etc.) and LibreOffice.

[1]
http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2011/06/oracle-spurns-libreoffice-wants-to-give-ooo-to-apache-foundation.ars

Regards,
Florian Philipp



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Re: [gentoo-user] tethering an htc incredible

2011-06-18 Thread David Abbott
On Sat, Jun 18, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Fri, Jun 17 2011, David Abbott wrote:

 I am currently connected with a Google Nexus One. I am going to attach
 two files, my current lsmod and /usr/src/linux/.config
 Also I use wicd to connect. I had to add the wired network usb0
 HTH
 David

 Thank you very much.  I will  work on this starting monday.  But one
 question.  What do you mean by I had to add the wired network usb0?

 I have created the symlink net.lo -- net.usb0, but I don't seem to get
 any usb0 interface.  Did you do anything else?  I do run wicd.
 I am guessing it is kernel options, but just want to make sure that
 there isn't some command I am forgetting to issue.

 Thanks again,
 allan


If you open up wicd = Preferences = General Settings = Wired
interface the defaultis eth0.
I did not have to manually create any symlink as I think wicd does any
majic that is needed on its own.
One think to consider is that your phone does not have tethering
enabled, that your carrier has blocked it.
All the best,
David



[gentoo-user] Re: /etc/locale vs /etc/env.d/02locale?

2011-06-18 Thread walt
On 06/17/2011 06:46 PM, Peter Humphrey wrote:
 On Saturday 18 June 2011 01:50:12 walt wrote:
 
 I've tried to prevent the installation of many many unneeded megabytes
 of translation files in /usr/share/locale/* but I've never succeeded.

 Have you tried localepurge?

I just did, and thanks for the hint :)
 





[gentoo-user] net-print/hplip-3.11.5 compile fails

2011-06-18 Thread Dale
/hpps/hppsfilter.c: In function ‘main’:
prnt/hpps/hppsfilter.c:200: warning: format ‘%s’ expects type ‘char *’, 
but argument 4 has type ‘char * (*)(int)’

pcard/fat.c: In function ‘FatReadFile’:
pcard/fat.c:630: warning: ignoring return value of ‘write’, declared 
with attribute warn_unused_result

make: *** [hppsfilter.o] Error 1
make: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
emake failed
* ERROR: net-print/hplip-3.11.5 failed (compile phase):
* emake failed
*
* Call stack:
* ebuild.sh, line 56: Called src_compile
* environment, line 5970: Called _eapi2_src_compile
* ebuild.sh, line 665: Called die
* The specific snippet of code:
* emake || die emake failed
*
* If you need support, post the output of 'emerge --info 
=net-print/hplip-3.11.5',
* the complete build log and the output of 'emerge -pqv 
=net-print/hplip-3.11.5'.
* The complete build log is located at 
'/var/log/portage/net-print:hplip-3.11.5:20110618-232524.log'.
* The ebuild environment file is located at 
'/var/tmp/portage/net-print/hplip-3.11.5/temp/environment'.

* S: '/var/tmp/portage/net-print/hplip-3.11.5/work/hplip-3.11.5'

 Failed to emerge net-print/hplip-3.11.5, Log file:

 '/var/log/portage/net-print:hplip-3.11.5:20110618-232524.log'
root@fireball / #


I looked on bgo and the forums with no luck. I don't recall seeing this 
on this list either.


Ideas?

Oh, I did run etc-update and then did env-update and source /etc/profile 
just in case some other update changed something. No joy there either.


Thanks much.

Dale

:-) :-)



[gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread William Kenworthy
Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use
concurrently?

This has come up because I am trying to upgrade mythtv using overlays
because gentoos mythtv builds are getting rather ancient - the drscream
(layman) overlay is requiring a perl 6 module, but the manual github
overlay which doesnt is January so is getting out of date anyway.

or can someone point me to a recent overlay thats regularly updated and
works(!)  Currently want to go from mythtv .23-gentoo to .24-fixes and
then .25 as its soon to be stable.

BillK



-- 
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!




Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread Dale

William Kenworthy wrote:

Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use
concurrently?

This has come up because I am trying to upgrade mythtv using overlays
because gentoos mythtv builds are getting rather ancient - the drscream
(layman) overlay is requiring a perl 6 module, but the manual github
overlay which doesnt is January so is getting out of date anyway.

or can someone point me to a recent overlay thats regularly updated and
works(!)  Currently want to go from mythtv .23-gentoo to .24-fixes and
then .25 as its soon to be stable.

BillK

   


I had a look at the ebuild, it doesn't appear to be slotted.  So, it is 
most likely not possible to have both at the same time.  The relavant 
portion:


LICENSE=|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )
SLOT=0
KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390 
~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd


All the ebuilds I looked at had the SLOT=0 which means no slots.

If I am wrong, someone post and correct me.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread skiarxon
You can't have multiple versions of Perl installed in your system.


Re: [gentoo-user] Argh: No KMail after KDEPIM upgrade

2011-06-18 Thread Alex Schuster
Volker Armin Hemmann writes:

 On Monday 13 June 2011 21:01:58 Alex Schuster wrote:


 Anyway, KMail has a problem now. I get this error:

   KMail encountered a fatal error and will terminate now.
   The error was:
   Failed to fetch the resource collection.
 
 look up the akonadi error log

Test 5:  ERROR


MySQL server log contains errors.
Details: The MySQL server error log file apos;a
href='/home/wonko/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err'/home/wonko/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err/aapos;
contains errors.

File content of '/home/wonko/.local/share/akonadi/db_data/mysql.err':
InnoDB: The InnoDB memory heap is disabled
InnoDB: Mutexes and rw_locks use GCC atomic builtins
InnoDB: Compressed tables use zlib 1.2.5
110614 19:22:22  InnoDB: highest supported file format is Barracuda.
110614 19:22:22  InnoDB: Warning: allocated tablespace 44, old maximum was 9
110614 19:22:22 Percona XtraDB (http://www.percona.com) 1.0.10-12.0
started; log sequence number 1431101630
110614 19:22:22 [Warning] Can't open and lock time zone table: Table
'mysql.time_zone_leap_second' doesn't exist trying to live without them
110614 19:22:22 [ERROR] Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table
'mysql.servers' doesn't exist
110614 19:22:22 [Note] /usr/sbin/mysqld: ready for connections.
Version: '5.1.50-MariaDB'  socket:
'/home/wonko/.local/share/akonadi/socket-weird/mysql.socket'  port: 0
Gentoo Linux mariadb-5.1.50

I think I had a similar error before, one year ago, and it sometime
vanished misteriously and all seemed to be fine.


But I think the problem is this: WhenI start kmail in a shell, I get
this error:


Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed
SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult Unknown error. (Failed to
fetch the resource collection.)
kmail2(31523) MailCommon::Kernel::emergencyExit: KMail encountered a
fatal error and will terminate now.
The error was:
Failed to fetch the resource collection.
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed
SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult Unknown error. (Failed to
fetch the resource collection.)
kmail2(31523) MailCommon::Kernel::emergencyExit: KMail encountered a
fatal error and will terminate now.
The error was:
Failed to fetch the resource collection.
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJobPrivate::resourceScanResult: Failed
to request resource akonadi_maildir_resource_3 : Unknown error.
(Failed to fetch the resource collection.)
/usr/bin/kmail(31523) Soprano:
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.ServiceUnknown - The name
org.kde.nepomuk.services.nepomukstorage was not provided by any .service
files
/usr/bin/kmail(31523) Soprano: QLocalSocket::connectToServer: Invalid
name
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed
SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult Unknown error. (Failed to
fetch the resource collection.)
kmail2(31523) MailCommon::Kernel::emergencyExit: KMail encountered a
fatal error and will terminate now.
The error was:
Failed to fetch the resource collection.
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJobPrivate::resourceScanResult: Failed
to request resource akonadi_maildir_resource_3 : Unknown error.
(Failed to fetch the resource collection.)
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult: Failed
SpecialCollectionsRequestJob::slotResult Unknown error. (Failed to
fetch the resource collection.)
kmail2(31523) MailCommon::Kernel::emergencyExit: KMail encountered a
fatal error and will terminate now.
The error was:
Failed to fetch the resource collection.
kmail2(31523)/libakonadi
Akonadi::SpecialCollectionsRequestJobPrivate::resourceScanResult: Failed
to request resource akonadi_maildir_resource_3 : Unknown error.
(Failed to fetch the resource collection.)



 BTW, double-clicking a file in dolphin does no longer open it, but asks
 for the application to open it with. No known applications are shown.
 Hmm, I remember having this before, and there was some easy solution
 like running kbuildsycoca4, but this did not help here.
 
 /etc/xdg/menus/applications.menu
 is missing. Just create a symlink to kde-4-applications.menu

This worked for a test user, but not for my own account. I also tried
kbuildsycoca4 again after I checked that this was the command that had
helped on the other PC. Still no change. Yes, I logged out and in.

And suddenly, some days later, it's working. I have no idea what fixed
this, but I'm glad it finally solved itself. The icons for the menu
entries are still mostly empty, but the applications are all back, and a
double-click in dolphin no longer asks what to do.

Wonko




Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread William Kenworthy
On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 19:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
 William Kenworthy wrote:
  Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use
  concurrently?
 
  This has come up because I am trying to upgrade mythtv using overlays
  because gentoos mythtv builds are getting rather ancient - the drscream
  (layman) overlay is requiring a perl 6 module, but the manual github
  overlay which doesnt is January so is getting out of date anyway.
 
  or can someone point me to a recent overlay thats regularly updated and
  works(!)  Currently want to go from mythtv .23-gentoo to .24-fixes and
  then .25 as its soon to be stable.
 
  BillK
 
 
 
 I had a look at the ebuild, it doesn't appear to be slotted.  So, it is 
 most likely not possible to have both at the same time.  The relavant 
 portion:
 
 LICENSE=|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )
 SLOT=0
 KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390 
 ~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd
 
 All the ebuilds I looked at had the SLOT=0 which means no slots.
 
 If I am wrong, someone post and correct me.
 
 Dale
 
 :-)  :-)
 

Its actually not slotting I am after - slots are a choice of setting
the system to one or the other (correct me if I am wrong) whereas I want
to use perl-5 for eveyting except this which wants perl-6.

One item is that the ebuild for perl5 is dev-perl/libwww-perl whereas
for perl 6 its dev-perl/libwww-perl-6 which indicates co-existence
might be possible - but I dont want to break a system to prove it
doesnt :)

BillK



-- 
William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au
Home in Perth!




Re: [gentoo-user] Argh: No KMail after KDEPIM upgrade

2011-06-18 Thread Alex Schuster
I did not intend to send this mail yet, but I accidentally did. It
happened when kwin started doing weird things again, like transparent
window titles, window content being all black or grey and such. Happens
after a few days of KDE4 sesstion uptime, the kwin proecess has grown to
some hundred megs (the record was 1.3G) then.

I wanted to close the running applications before logging out, which
somehow worked for the composing window of this mail, although it was
meant to end in the drafts folder, not here.
There was also a konqueror window which had some open tabs with threads
about this KDEPIM problem, forutunately I was able to save them, despite
the bookmark menu being all grey.

For the moment, I have disabled kmail in kontact, and grouped the
kontact window with a thunderbird window. Now the next problem is that
thunderbird does not check my IMAP folders for new mail, only the one I
am currently in. Do I fix this problem? Or better invest the time in
fixing this KDEPIM problem? Try another mail client?

None of those. Instead I install Linux Mint [*] on my Mom's notebook.

Again.

Because I just killed the existing installation. After some tweaking it
worked fine, so I thought it was time for a backup of /boot and ~/.*
files on a backup partition, which I had to create first.

Before:
/dev/sda7   10G /root
/dev/sda8   10G /home
free space  28G

After:
/dev/sda7   10G /root
/dev/sda8   20G /home
/dev/sda9   8G  /backup

resize2fs /dev/sda8 said the partition was at maximum size already, so I
rebooted. And no longer had a /home. Shouldn't this have been safe?

I removed /home from fstab so the boot process would not stop again. But
now X does not come up. And the console stays black. Somehow, eth0 is
down, but wlan0 is connected, I can log in via ssh in order to activate
the Grub menu, so I could remove the quiet option. Mint / Ubuntu does
not show a Grub menu, booting starts without delay. In Mint, even
pressing the escape key does not show the boot process, not sure how
this was in Ubunbtu. There is no fancy splash image either in Mint, so
the might be something wrong here. I wanted to activate the menu,
realized that Grub2 does things SO DIFFERENT from the Grub I know, but
then found /etc/default/grub, with lines like GRUB_HIDDEN_MENU=true or
something like that, and a comment said the update-grub command would
take care of this. I ran it, rebooted, and now I still see no menu.
Good: the boot messages are visible. Bad: they are totally distorted and
not readable, I think this is the new kernel or initrd I got installed
with update-grub. Had this before with Ubuntu when I allowed it to
install closed-source video drivers.

So I just did a fresh install, now I will configure what I already had
configured before. Then comes KDEPIM maybe, after some sleep.

Wonko

[*] No, not Gentoo. I want a quick setup, no long compiles to keep it up
to date, and I hoped for some additional distro magic that would
automatically detect my WLAN  stuff.



Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread Dale

William Kenworthy wrote:

On Sat, 2011-06-18 at 19:28 -0500, Dale wrote:
   

William Kenworthy wrote:
 

Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use
concurrently?

This has come up because I am trying to upgrade mythtv using overlays
because gentoos mythtv builds are getting rather ancient - the drscream
(layman) overlay is requiring a perl 6 module, but the manual github
overlay which doesnt is January so is getting out of date anyway.

or can someone point me to a recent overlay thats regularly updated and
works(!)  Currently want to go from mythtv .23-gentoo to .24-fixes and
then .25 as its soon to be stable.

BillK


   

I had a look at the ebuild, it doesn't appear to be slotted.  So, it is
most likely not possible to have both at the same time.  The relavant
portion:

LICENSE=|| ( Artistic GPL-1 GPL-2 GPL-3 )
SLOT=0
KEYWORDS=~alpha ~amd64 ~arm ~hppa ~ia64 ~m68k ~mips ~ppc ~ppc64 ~s390
~sh ~sparc ~x86 ~x86-fbsd

All the ebuilds I looked at had the SLOT=0 which means no slots.

If I am wrong, someone post and correct me.

Dale

:-)  :-)

 

Its actually not slotting I am after - slots are a choice of setting
the system to one or the other (correct me if I am wrong) whereas I want
to use perl-5 for eveyting except this which wants perl-6.

One item is that the ebuild for perl5 is dev-perl/libwww-perl whereas
for perl 6 its dev-perl/libwww-perl-6 which indicates co-existence
might be possible - but I dont want to break a system to prove it
doesnt :)

BillK

   


In order to have two versions of the same package on a system at the 
same time, the system has to be able to figure out which is which.  That 
is what Gentoo calls slots.  Here, I have python 2 and 3 installed.  I 
have the system set to python 2, with eselect, but some packages CAN use 
python 3 if it so chooses.  Maybe this link explains it better:


http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=1#doc_chap5

Hope that helps.

Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] Is it possible to have perl-5 and perl-6 installed and in use concurrently?

2011-06-18 Thread Albert Hopkins


On Sunday, June 19 at 09:47 (+0800), William Kenworthy said:

 Its actually not slotting I am after - slots are a choice of setting
 the system to one or the other (correct me if I am wrong) whereas I
 want
 to use perl-5 for eveyting except this which wants perl-6.

You are wrong. slots is the mechanism whereby different versions of a
single package can coexist on a system.  Setting a choice I assume
means your eselect-style choices.   For example, you can eselect a
pager, which has nothing do do with slots.  Or you can eselect the
system python, which does (indirectly) have to do with slots.  But
eselect and slots are not the same.