Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
Well, just to follow up on this - I did get the nouveau driver working and the system operational. - The console still does not work; don't know why but it seems to not get a working resolution. Not sure how to fix that right now. - Starting XDM (KDM) works, and brings up the login. - I am able to SSH in from another system now. Now, this was after I paid a little closer attention to some updates. I resync'd emerge, and got the 3.1.6 linux kernel, which I promptly upgraded to. I also went back and rebuilt the X11 drivers (nouveau, keyboard, mouse, evdev), and paid closer attention to the output of the nouveau driver which immediately started off saying there was an issue with the ACPI_WMI and MXM_WMI interfaces from the kernel - another kernel rebuild after enabling those (it had when I selected the driver I think, but I kept disabling the x86 features which removed them) and then it didn't complain any longer. So, I seem to have a working X environment; but no working console environment for now. I'm guessing I probably need to tell the nouveau frame buffer driver what resolution to use to resolve that one. Thanks all! Ben From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Do you have another computer you can use to test if it is alive with ping or SSH? This is occurring around the point at which KMS kicks in, you may be just losing your display but still have an otherwise working system. Yes SSH is enabled; no I can't SSH into it. It seems to be completely dead. Try adding nomodeset (or intel.modeset=0) to your kernel boot parameters to disable KMS. Ok. Setting nomodeset works. However, if I understand the nouveau driver correctly then that won't work for using the nouveau driver as it requires KMS. Digging a little deeper into the nouveau driver and KMS[1], I discovered that I probably need to have CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING set in the kernel config as well - which it wasn't. So that probably explains what was happening as CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE was set, so there may have been two drivers competing for fb0. Now off to build a new kernel... Well, that doesn't seem to have been the only problem at least...still don't know what's doing it. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
On Wednesday 25 Jan 2012 20:23:33 BRM wrote: Well, just to follow up on this - I did get the nouveau driver working and the system operational. - The console still does not work; don't know why but it seems to not get a working resolution. Not sure how to fix that right now. - Starting XDM (KDM) works, and brings up the login. - I am able to SSH in from another system now. Now, this was after I paid a little closer attention to some updates. I resync'd emerge, and got the 3.1.6 linux kernel, which I promptly upgraded to. I also went back and rebuilt the X11 drivers (nouveau, keyboard, mouse, evdev), and paid closer attention to the output of the nouveau driver which immediately started off saying there was an issue with the ACPI_WMI and MXM_WMI interfaces from the kernel - another kernel rebuild after enabling those (it had when I selected the driver I think, but I kept disabling the x86 features which removed them) and then it didn't complain any longer. So, I seem to have a working X environment; but no working console environment for now. I'm guessing I probably need to tell the nouveau frame buffer driver what resolution to use to resolve that one. Thanks all! Ben From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 8:49 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Do you have another computer you can use to test if it is alive with ping or SSH? This is occurring around the point at which KMS kicks in, you may be just losing your display but still have an otherwise working system. Yes SSH is enabled; no I can't SSH into it. It seems to be completely dead. Try adding nomodeset (or intel.modeset=0) to your kernel boot parameters to disable KMS. Ok. Setting nomodeset works. However, if I understand the nouveau driver correctly then that won't work for using the nouveau driver as it requires KMS. Digging a little deeper into the nouveau driver and KMS[1], I discovered that I probably need to have CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING set in the kernel config as well - which it wasn't. So that probably explains what was happening as CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE was set, so there may have been two drivers competing for fb0. Now off to build a new kernel... Well, that doesn't seem to have been the only problem at least...still don't know what's doing it. Does it work satisfactorily with kernel 3.0.6? I found the 3.1.6 breaking suspend on my machine so have gone back to 3.0.6, but my hardware and video driver is different to yours. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
- Original Message - From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com Does it work satisfactorily with kernel 3.0.6? I found the 3.1.6 breaking suspend on my machine so have gone back to 3.0.6, but my hardware and video driver is different to yours. Haven't tried 3.0.6 with the kernel change for the ACPI_WMI and MXM_WMI options being set. I would imagine so as that is probably the issue - not having all the kernel options set correctly usually does interesting things like that. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Do you have another computer you can use to test if it is alive with ping or SSH? This is occurring around the point at which KMS kicks in, you may be just losing your display but still have an otherwise working system. Yes SSH is enabled; no I can't SSH into it. It seems to be completely dead. Try adding nomodeset (or intel.modeset=0) to your kernel boot parameters to disable KMS. Ok. Setting nomodeset works. However, if I understand the nouveau driver correctly then that won't work for using the nouveau driver as it requires KMS. Digging a little deeper into the nouveau driver and KMS[1], I discovered that I probably need to have CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING set in the kernel config as well - which it wasn't. So that probably explains what was happening as CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE was set, so there may have been two drivers competing for fb0. Now off to build a new kernel... Thanks, Ben [1]http://nouveau.freedesktop.org/wiki/KernelModeSetting
Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
From: BRM bm_witn...@yahoo.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2012 11:50 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up From: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Do you have another computer you can use to test if it is alive with ping or SSH? This is occurring around the point at which KMS kicks in, you may be just losing your display but still have an otherwise working system. Yes SSH is enabled; no I can't SSH into it. It seems to be completely dead. Try adding nomodeset (or intel.modeset=0) to your kernel boot parameters to disable KMS. Ok. Setting nomodeset works. However, if I understand the nouveau driver correctly then that won't work for using the nouveau driver as it requires KMS. Digging a little deeper into the nouveau driver and KMS[1], I discovered that I probably need to have CONFIG_VT_HW_CONSOLE_BINDING set in the kernel config as well - which it wasn't. So that probably explains what was happening as CONFIG_HW_CONSOLE was set, so there may have been two drivers competing for fb0. Now off to build a new kernel... Well, that doesn't seem to have been the only problem at least...still don't know what's doing it. Ben
Re: [gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
On Fri, 20 Jan 2012 19:57:31 -0800 (PST), BRM wrote: As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Do you have another computer you can use to test if it is alive with ping or SSH? This is occurring around the point at which KMS kicks in, you may be just losing your display but still have an otherwise working system. Try adding nomodeset (or intel.modeset=0) to your kernel boot parameters to disable KMS. -- Neil Bothwick Everywhere is walking distance if you have the time. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] System shuts off on boot-up
I am working on trying to get my AMD64 system back online. I recently rebuilt it (from scratch) after a very bad case of being out of date and build issues as a result (for numerous reasons). However, after I started trying to get X configured (Xorg) with the nouveau driver (I think I ran the proprietary nVidia driver before) it is now shutting off during boot-up. As the system starts to boot-up, it switches like it is going to start X - changing a video mode somehow. I don't have xdm in the runlevels yet, so it can't be starting XDM at all.This seems to happen right after udevd is started, while it waiting on the udev events. The system then just shuts off (power remain on - fans are still on, but monitors are off, and nothing responds, etc.) , and it never completes boot-up. Note: Xorg won't load yet as I am still figuring out the drivers. I'm out of my mind in trying to figure out what is wrong with the system. Ben
