Re: Cantarell font
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: cosimoc owen, I'm the package owner so I guess it's my turn to learn how fontconfig works cosimoc: I think that what you need to do is to match on the Cantarell family name, and then replace it with the Cantarell family name, but as a weak binding owen match target=pattern owen test qual=any name=familystringCantarell/string/test owen edit name=family mode=assign binding=weakstringCantarell/string/edit owen /match owen cosimoc: the test to see whether that works is that owen pango-view --language=vi --font 'Cantarell 12' --text 'Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy' owen should show that name all in Deja Vu instead of having a ransom-note mix of Deja Vu and Cantarell owen (that's the GNOME Vietnamese translator's name) Just noticed d0a582c (Tweak fontconfig script not to override system font by default - 2011-02-18) in cantarell-fonts. It seems to work fine for me (Vietnamese). Thanks! -- Duy ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
Hello, On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 02:52, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy pclo...@gmail.com wrote: To: Lucian Adrian Grijincu lucian.griji...@gmail.com The font is quite limited with respect to character coverage. For example it does not have all characters required for the Romanian language (I've recently added those characters and sent a message to the maintainer). I suggest the other language teams see if the font has support for all characters needed for their language. I see now why text in my laptop looks crappy (I'm testing Vietnamese version of gnome-shell). Any way to set default font per locale? Bit in a hurry at the monent, so I'll quote a relevant IRC conversation from yesterday that hopefully points you in the right direction. Let us know how it turns out. This was in the context of discussing the fontconfig snippet installed by the Fedora Cantarell package which was making it part of sans-serif which we didn't want, and what should be in there instead. owen cosimoc: we do need a fontconfig snippet owen cosimoc: the current plan is to make Cantarell inherently a weak binding so that if you specify Cantarell then it will get reordered behind stuff in sans-serif if it doesn't support the current language cosimoc owen, right now if I parse that snippet correctly, all it does is setting cantarell as default for sans-serif in the whole system cosimoc owen, which breaks KDE on fedora owen cosimoc: I'm saying, we need *some* snippet, not that we need *that* snippet cosimoc owen, oh fair enough :) mclasen cosimoc: can you try to figure out what snippet we might need ? cosimoc mclasen, my guess is we don't need any until we have the weak binding thing owen mentioned sorted out owen cosimoc: if someone is goign to modfiy the cantarell package, they really should try to come up with the weak Feb cosimoc owen, I'm the package owner so I guess it's my turn to learn how fontconfig works cosimoc: I think that what you need to do is to match on the Cantarell family name, and then replace it with the Cantarell family name, but as a weak binding owen match target=pattern owen test qual=any name=familystringCantarell/string/test owen edit name=family mode=assign binding=weakstringCantarell/string/edit owen /match owen cosimoc: the test to see whether that works is that owen pango-view --language=vi --font 'Cantarell 12' --text 'Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy' owen should show that name all in Deja Vu instead of having a ransom-note mix of Deja Vu and Cantarell owen (that's the GNOME Vietnamese translator's name) Sorry, I'm not sure I've understand it. For Spanish, I can write most of our characters, however you cannot see them correctly in capital letters, so, would this be included into your snippet? I apologize for using your name there - it was just the first Vietnamese text I found opening a .po file :-) - Owen Thanks and best regards, -- Jorge González González alor...@gmail.com Weblog: http://aloriel.no-ip.org Fotolog: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aloriel ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
2011/2/17 Jorge González alor...@gmail.com: Sorry, I'm not sure I've understand it. For Spanish, I can write most of our characters, however you cannot see them correctly in capital letters, so, would this be included into your snippet? Wouldn't it be better to add the missing characters to the font instead? -- . ..: Lucian ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 01:35:49PM +0200, Lucian Adrian Grijincu wrote: 2011/2/17 Jorge González alor...@gmail.com: Sorry, I'm not sure I've understand it. For Spanish, I can write most of our characters, however you cannot see them correctly in capital letters, so, would this be included into your snippet? Wouldn't it be better to add the missing characters to the font instead? Of course, but then it will be done by the time of gnome4 :) Regards, Khaled -- Khaled Hosny Egyptian ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 6:23 AM, Lucian Adrian Grijincu lucian.griji...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, GNOME3 will feature a new default font: Cantarell http://afaikblog.wordpress.com/2011/02/15/gnome-3-getting-better-by-the-day/ I don't know who took this decision, why and on what merits and I don't want to start a flame war on this. The font is quite limited with respect to character coverage. For example it does not have all characters required for the Romanian language (I've recently added those characters and sent a message to the maintainer). I suggest the other language teams see if the font has support for all characters needed for their language. I see now why text in my laptop looks crappy (I'm testing Vietnamese version of gnome-shell). Any way to set default font per locale? -- Duy ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
Nguyen Thai Ngoc Duy pclo...@gmail.com wrote: To: Lucian Adrian Grijincu lucian.griji...@gmail.com The font is quite limited with respect to character coverage. For example it does not have all characters required for the Romanian language (I've recently added those characters and sent a message to the maintainer). I suggest the other language teams see if the font has support for all characters needed for their language. I see now why text in my laptop looks crappy (I'm testing Vietnamese version of gnome-shell). Any way to set default font per locale? Bit in a hurry at the monent, so I'll quote a relevant IRC conversation from yesterday that hopefully points you in the right direction. Let us know how it turns out. This was in the context of discussing the fontconfig snippet installed by the Fedora Cantarell package which was making it part of sans-serif which we didn't want, and what should be in there instead. owen cosimoc: we do need a fontconfig snippet owen cosimoc: the current plan is to make Cantarell inherently a weak binding so that if you specify Cantarell then it will get reordered behind stuff in sans-serif if it doesn't support the current language cosimoc owen, right now if I parse that snippet correctly, all it does is setting cantarell as default for sans-serif in the whole system cosimoc owen, which breaks KDE on fedora owen cosimoc: I'm saying, we need *some* snippet, not that we need *that* snippet cosimoc owen, oh fair enough :) mclasen cosimoc: can you try to figure out what snippet we might need ? cosimoc mclasen, my guess is we don't need any until we have the weak binding thing owen mentioned sorted out owen cosimoc: if someone is goign to modfiy the cantarell package, they really should try to come up with the weak Feb cosimoc owen, I'm the package owner so I guess it's my turn to learn how fontconfig works cosimoc: I think that what you need to do is to match on the Cantarell family name, and then replace it with the Cantarell family name, but as a weak binding owen match target=pattern owen test qual=any name=familystringCantarell/string/test owen edit name=family mode=assign binding=weakstringCantarell/string/edit owen /match owen cosimoc: the test to see whether that works is that owen pango-view --language=vi --font 'Cantarell 12' --text 'Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy' owen should show that name all in Deja Vu instead of having a ransom-note mix of Deja Vu and Cantarell owen (that's the GNOME Vietnamese translator's name) I apologize for using your name there - it was just the first Vietnamese text I found opening a .po file :-) - Owen ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
Re: Cantarell font
On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 8:52 AM, Owen Taylor otay...@redhat.com wrote: I see now why text in my laptop looks crappy (I'm testing Vietnamese version of gnome-shell). Any way to set default font per locale? Bit in a hurry at the monent, so I'll quote a relevant IRC conversation from yesterday that hopefully points you in the right direction. Let us know how it turns out. This was in the context of discussing the fontconfig snippet installed by the Fedora Cantarell package which was making it part of sans-serif which we didn't want, and what should be in there instead. owen cosimoc: we do need a fontconfig snippet owen cosimoc: the current plan is to make Cantarell inherently a weak binding so that if you specify Cantarell then it will get reordered behind stuff in sans-serif if it doesn't support the current language cosimoc owen, right now if I parse that snippet correctly, all it does is setting cantarell as default for sans-serif in the whole system cosimoc owen, which breaks KDE on fedora owen cosimoc: I'm saying, we need *some* snippet, not that we need *that* snippet cosimoc owen, oh fair enough :) mclasen cosimoc: can you try to figure out what snippet we might need ? cosimoc mclasen, my guess is we don't need any until we have the weak binding thing owen mentioned sorted out owen cosimoc: if someone is goign to modfiy the cantarell package, they really should try to come up with the weak Feb cosimoc owen, I'm the package owner so I guess it's my turn to learn how fontconfig works cosimoc: I think that what you need to do is to match on the Cantarell family name, and then replace it with the Cantarell family name, but as a weak binding owen match target=pattern owen test qual=any name=familystringCantarell/string/test owen edit name=family mode=assign binding=weakstringCantarell/string/edit owen /match owen cosimoc: the test to see whether that works is that owen pango-view --language=vi --font 'Cantarell 12' --text 'Nguyễn Thái Ngọc Duy' owen should show that name all in Deja Vu instead of having a ransom-note mix of Deja Vu and Cantarell owen (that's the GNOME Vietnamese translator's name) I apologize for using your name there - it was just the first Vietnamese text I found opening a .po file :-) Thanks for the idea. I'll play with fontconfig. And you are free to use my name whenever you need to test Vietnamese support in fonts :-) Actually my first name should be enough; 'ễ' letter is only used by Vietnamese as far as I know. -- Duy ___ gnome-shell-list mailing list gnome-shell-list@gnome.org http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list
