Re: [nfc-l] Hermit Thrush flight calls on ground

2011-10-12 Thread Jesse Ellis
Seems like all the North American *Catharus* do this, no? I'm pretty sure
I've heard Veery doing flight calls on the ground as well. An interesting
question, then, would be whether Central and S. American *Catharus* have
such calls

On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 9:21 AM, Kenneth Victor Rosenberg
wrote:

>  I wonder if Bill Evans could re-release the "thrush-tape" that Jeff is
> referring to on CD (or podcast?) -- that is still probably the best primer
> for learning the basic thrushes, and  lot of us got started with that tape!
>
>  KEN
>
>
>  Ken Rosenberg
> Conservation Science Program
> Cornell Lab of Ornithology
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>  On Oct 12, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>  Yes, and remember Bill's classic thrush tape in which he had, if I am
> remembering correctly, both Wood Thrush and Bicknell's Thrush singing on the
> breeding grounds and interspersing the flight calls in the song? That was
> such a great tape!
>
>  Last year when I was in northern Quebec I had Gray-cheeked doing this as
> well but I could never record it.
>
>  Fun stuff!
>
>  Jeff
>
> Jeff Wells
> International Boreal Conservation Campaign
> Boreal Songbird Initiative
>
>
> On Oct 11, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Kenneth Victor Rosenberg" 
> wrote:
>
>   Jeff et al.
>
>  I have fairly frequently heard Hermit Thrush giving it's nfc on the
> ground at first light -- especially in early winter, often interspersed with
> "chuck" notes just as you describe. I have also heard both Swainson's and
> Wood Thrush giving what sounds like the nfc interspersed with song. I
> believe that this is one of the ways that Bill Evans first figured out all
> the thrush calls -- by matching them to calls heard in various contexts
> during the day and visually confirmed.
>
>  KEN
>
>
>  Ken Rosenberg
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>  On Oct 11, 2011, at 5:09 PM, Jeff Wells wrote:
>
>   Yesterday morning  I was out in my suburban yard in south-central Maine
> watching a nice morning flight of birds moving over and through when I began
> hearing the “chuck” call of a Hermit Thrush from the neighbor’s backyard.
> Soon it began alternating between the “chuck” call and the drawn-out “whee”
> nocturnal flight call. I went inside to get my camera to record it (my
> recording gear was packed away) and by then it had flown up across the
> street into the top of a tree. At that point it began just doing the flight
> call with no more of the “chuck” call and then it moved to another taller
> tree 100 yards away where it stayed and continued doing the call for a bit
> before suddenly stopping. It may have flown away or it may have just stopped
> calling and dropped down somewhere nearby but I never saw or heard it again.
> 
>  ** **
>  I was able to get some of the calls on some video clips, one of which I
> posted up on my YouTube channel for anyone interested. I think I have some
> recordings of Hermit Thrushes interspersing the nocturnal call into songs
> during the breeding season and I know I have a recording of a Swainson’s
> Thrush doing that.
>  ** **
>  Anyway, you can hear the calls on the video titled “Hermit Thrush giving
> nocturnal flight call” at:  <http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation>
> http://www.youtube.com/birdconservation
>  ** **
>  Interestingly, the second call it gives on the video is much burrier than
> what I think of as normal and some of the calls seem a bit shorter than what
> I am used to hearing at night.
>  ** **
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Re: [nfc-l] Long-eared Owl?

2011-11-04 Thread Jesse Ellis
Ben-

Intriguing. I don't know if you'll ever get a definitive answer, of course,
but despite a lot of experience with avians, I'm not convinced that's not a
mammal. I don't think it's a cat, but a deer is an intriguing possibility.
I recorded a deer in Santa Rosa NP in Costa Rica getting chomped by a
coyote, and when that thing hollered, it sounded a lot like a goat, a very
bleating sound. This is reminiscent of that, similar goat-like quality? I
haven't heard many other deer vocalize, but this makes me think of that.
Tough call. I don't have enough experience with long-eared owl to compare,
though.

Jesse Ellis
Madison, WI

On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 7:44 PM, Benjamin Van Doren wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I've attached an audio file of an interesting recording captured by a
> flight call mic last August from a suburban wildlife preserve (Marshlands
> Conservancy) in Rye, NY. The call sequence is reminiscent of Long-eared
> Owl, but the various sounds produced in the recording vary considerably in
> pitch, rhythm and apparent loudness. The couple people whom I have talked
> to have differed in their opinions on the identity of the caller, with one
> supporting Long-eared and the other suggesting mammalian identity, perhaps
> a feral cat or white-tailed deer (of which there are large numbers in that
> area).
>
> I was reminded of this recording when I heard a similar LEOW-like call
> sequence at a Saw-whet Owl banding station last week. I was unable to
> record any of those calls, though they did sound very much like the
> Long-eared recordings I have listened to (less variable than the attached
> recording). I don't have extensive experience with calling Long-eareds so
> I'm not sure how often they vocalize in late summer/fall/winter and whether
> their vocalizations become more variable after the breeding season.
>
> Any information on their behavior in this regard and any comments on the
> recording would be appreciated.
>
> Sincerely,
>
> Benjamin Van Doren
> White Plains, NY
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Re: [nfc-l] Austin, Tx - Hourly count - Through May 7, 2012

2012-05-11 Thread Jesse Ellis
Hey all-

As someone who works in behavioral acoustics, I'd really appreciate hearing
some speculation about why these birds are calling. What is the call
function? Because this will affect everything about how we interpret these
graphs. For example, Mike, why do you think that calling should differ with
season? My assumptions would be that the function of any one type of flight
call for any one species is the same across contexts. What sort of factors
drive these seasonal differences? Are you talking about physical factors
that would affect apparent call distributions?

And David, what's the basis for the rationale that birds don't need to
communicate on takeoff compared with later? (Answers might be simple but I
think it would be useful to be explicit here.) Your explanation in general
would seem to me to generate a strong bimodal distribution, one that I'm
not seeing in the graph provided. To me that looks like a strong peak at
2am. The difference between 12am and 1am probably wouldn't significant
(??). So why a peak at 2am, given the function of these calls?

Jesse Ellis
UW-Madison, Madison, WI

On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 9:34 AM, Michael Lanzone  wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> From all my work (and others while I ran the bioacoustic lab at Carnegie
> Museum, including Lewis who just posted) on this I have a few really quick
> comments. First calling varies by season. Spring and
> fall distributions are different as birds are driven by different factors.
> Second, calling rate is driven by a few main factors, one is density, but
> the other big one is atmospheric conditions. Unless you are looking at
> years of data, with out both pieces to the puzzle it is hard to analyze the
> data and come up with meaningful results. From over 6 years of analysis and
> over a quarter of a million flight calls analyzed the trend we saw in
> the Appalachians for warblers/sparrows (generally) is numbers increasing
> throughout the night and dropping off slightly towards morning. For
> Thrushes, its is typically see the numbers increasing drastically just
> before nautical twilight in the am.
>
> Good discussion!!
>
> Mike
>
> Michael Lanzone
> mlanz...@gmail.com
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>
>
>
> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 10:09 AM, David La Puma wrote:
>
>> Nice data Mike! The relationship looks intuitive to me. Here's my
>> broadly-general speculation on the topic:
>> Under stable atmospheric conditions, I think you get less flight calls
>> during initiation of migration than you do once birds are at altitude. The
>> rationale is that birds don't really 'need' to communicate initially since
>> they've just departed and presumably know what they're doing (plus there is
>> still a small amount of ambient light available to them(?)). If there's
>> heavy fog, or the conditions aren't really good but birds are
>> migration-ready, or they're being pushed offshore, you might experience a
>> lot of call activity just after sunset... otherwise, I think it's usually
>> less. As birds gain altitude and call more, the detections increase but
>> only to a point, after which the probability of detection begins to fall
>> and you're just not picking them up. Then as they descend, the detection
>> increases again AND they may be calling more frequently as they're planning
>> to settle in for the following day... and may even be communicating with
>> birds already on the ground.  Now if some of the acoustic researchers could
>> chime in with some actual data supporting or refuting this, I'll go back to
>> working on the radar ;)
>>
>> good listening!
>>
>> David
>> 
>>
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>>
>> On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:26 AM, Lewis Grove  wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Andrew and all,
>>>
>>> Automated detection of calls is a tricky business, though it is
>>> relatively easy to figure out the proportion of calls that you are actually
>>> pulling out - just count calls manually, screen by screen and then see how
>>> many your detectors find.  We looked at 90 different random 15-minute
>>> segments from three different recording sites, using multiple observers to
>>> find the total number of calls present.
>>>

Re: [nfc-l] Mystery NFC recording

2012-06-08 Thread Jesse Ellis
Hey all-

I claim very little experience with night flight calls. However, that does
seem similar to Whimbrel, which I heard a few of on the California coast
this spring, and overall pretty shore-birdy.

Jesse Ellis
Madison, WI

On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 1:54 PM, Bill Evans wrote:

> Interesting call Rob, and hard to pin down as it appears to be a muttering
> instead of a full announcement. I've ranged in considering Virginia or
> Black Rail, Osprey, and Whimbrel. Perhaps those more freshly afield can
> weigh in.
>
> Bill E
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Jay K
> Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2012 9:28 PM
> To: Rob Fergus ; Night Flight Call List
> Subject: Re: [nfc-l] Mystery NFC recording
>
>
> Rob,
>
> This may not be it, but what about the possibility of American
> Oystercatcher?  Flight call from xeno-canto:
>
> http://www.xeno-canto.org/**sounds/uploaded/HBPPUDOMJI/**
> Pilpilen2%20-%20Haematopus%**20palliatus.mp3<http://www.xeno-canto.org/sounds/uploaded/HBPPUDOMJI/Pilpilen2%20-%20Haematopus%20palliatus.mp3>
>
> I considered Whimbrel as well, but it doesn't seem quite high/shrill
> enough. At any rate, seems like a shorebird of some type.
>
> Jay Keller,
> San Diego, Ca
>
>
> -Original Message- From: Rob Fergus
> Sent: Jun 2, 2012 5:35 AM
> To: nf...@list.cornell.edu
> Subject: [nfc-l] Mystery NFC recording
>
>
>
>
> As migration winds down, I'm having fun trying to identify some of the
> more unusual recordings from this past season.  I could use some input on
> this recording made early in the evening of May 25 in Hunterdon County, NJ.
> Thanks!
>
> Rob Fergus
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Re: [nfc-l] Northeast US: Night Migration Tonight

2012-09-10 Thread Jesse Ellis
I'm not in crack shape right now, but I spent a few stops listing here in
Madison, Wisconsin. We had a major flight last night. The bulk of the birds
were Swainson's Thrushes, followed by Hermit Thrushes, with a few
Grey-cheeks in there too. The rest of were not my expertise (that is,
nothing exceptionally distinctive other than a few Indigo Buntings - no
herons, cuckoos, rails, etc). I stopped several times over an hour period
and had probably 8-10 birds per minute each stop. This was between 1200 and
0100 this morning. I just wish I hadn't had to go to bed!

Jesse Ellis
Madison, WI

On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Benjamin Van Doren wrote:

> I too was out last night until about 2 am in Ithaca. Very similar species
> composition to Chris, plus a Gray-cheeked Thrush, Wood Thrush, Scarlet
> Tanager and a couple other things (and minus Mourning Warbler). Braved the
> 45-degree temps in a sweatshirt, but totally worth it!
>
> Benjamin Van Doren
> Ithaca, NY
>
> On Sep 10, 2012, at 4:39 PM, "Christopher T. Tessaglia-Hymes" <
> c...@cornell.edu> wrote:
>
>  Another heads-up…
>
> ** **
>
> Tonight looks very good for a night migration. Should see a good push of
> birds down from southern Canada into the US. How this plays out depends
> upon where listening stations are relative to the high pressure system
> moving across the Northeast. For example, regions west of Rochester, NY may
> not see significant movement after midnight, while areas east of Rochester,
> NY may see continuous movement all night.
>
> ** **
>
> Last night, while listening and watching the spectrogram scrolling live
> from Etna, NY from about 9pm to 2pm, Gerard Phillips, Jay McGowan and I
> heard the following, plus some:
>
> ** **
>
> Common Yellowthroats
>
> Ovenbirds
>
> Mourning Warblers (sounds like a “Bobolink of the warblers”)
>
> Black-throated Blue Warblers
>
> Chestnut-sided Warbler
>
> Magnolia Warbler-types
>
> Lots of Bay-breasted Warblers
>
> Rose-breasted Grosbeaks
>
> Hermit Thrush (1-2)
>
> Veeries
>
> Swainson’s Thrushes
>
> Bobolinks
>
> Lots of Green Herons
> Chipping Sparrow
>
> double-banded upsweeps
>
> downsweeps
>
> seeps
>
> other zeeps
>
> and our local Coyotes
>
> ** **
>
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>
> ** **
>
> Sincerely,
> Chris T-H
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[nfc-l] Western radar?

2013-09-10 Thread Jesse Ellis
I know I've asked this of various folks before, and probably gotten
reasonable if short answers, but I'm blanking out on the reasons.

Can anyone shed light on why radar doesn't really work for detecting night
flights in the intermountain West and the West Coast, esp. south? Is it
literally that the birds are more spread out or fewer (seems very unlikely
to me) or that all those boreal migrants trend east and clump up (seems
possible, but shouldn't eliminate all flights) or that something about the
topography/geography leads to differences in the effectiveness of radar? I
am currently in the Los Angeles Basin, and I realize I'll probably not hear
flights like I have out east, just because of migration routes, but I'm
still curious about the radar question here.

Are there any published or posted resources on this? Thanks,
Jesse

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[nfc-l] Radar birds in the west!

2014-03-22 Thread Jesse Ellis
Hey all-

I should probably go outside and listen... Anyway, I've asked about this
before, whether one can ever see birds on radar in the west. It looks like
a lot of birds are hitting the Gulf tonight, and heading north toward the
eastern Great Lakes, but you can also see pulses as night falls in Arizona,
and on radar in Yuma and the central part of the Central Valley in
California. (Also possibly along the Front Range in CO?) Can anyone with
more experience confirm this?

Thanks much, and good night birding,
Jesse Ellis

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Re:[nfc-l] Radar birds in the west!

2014-03-22 Thread Jesse Ellis
I apologize - I forgot the link:
https://people.mbi.ohio-state.edu/hurtado.10/US_Composite_Radar/2014-3-21/


Hey all-
>
> I should probably go outside and listen... Anyway, I've asked about this
> before, whether one can ever see birds on radar in the west. It looks like
> a lot of birds are hitting the Gulf tonight, and heading north toward the
> eastern Great Lakes, but you can also see pulses as night falls in Arizona,
> and on radar in Yuma and the central part of the Central Valley in
> California. (Also possibly along the Front Range in CO?) Can anyone with
> more experience confirm this?
>
> Thanks much, and good night birding,
> Jesse Ellis
>


On Fri, Mar 21, 2014 at 11:25 PM, Jesse Ellis  wrote:

> Hey all-
>
> I should probably go outside and listen... Anyway, I've asked about this
> before, whether one can ever see birds on radar in the west. It looks like
> a lot of birds are hitting the Gulf tonight, and heading north toward the
> eastern Great Lakes, but you can also see pulses as night falls in Arizona,
> and on radar in Yuma and the central part of the Central Valley in
> California. (Also possibly along the Front Range in CO?) Can anyone with
> more experience confirm this?
>
> Thanks much, and good night birding,
> Jesse Ellis
>
> --
> Jesse Ellis
> Post-doctoral Researcher
> Dept. of Integrative and Comparative Biology,
> UCLA
>



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Post-doctoral Researcher
Dept. of Integrative and Comparative Biology,
UCLA

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