Re: Mini-GESO: Neighborhood Fawns

2019-07-11 Thread Larry Colen
The processing (maybe some heavy noise reduction) leads to a weirdly 
artificial, but still pleasing effect, almost like a black velvet painting.



Daniel J. Matyola wrote on 7/11/19 8:02 PM:

I made a few attempts to crop some of my fawn shots from yesterday to
portray the little guys a bit better:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/fawns

Comments are invited.

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Re: Mini-GESO: Neighborhood Fawns

2019-07-11 Thread Alan C

!

Alan C

On 12-Jul-19 05:02 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

I made a few attempts to crop some of my fawn shots from yesterday to
portray the little guys a bit better:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/fawns

Comments are invited.

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Mini-GESO: Neighborhood Fawns

2019-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
I made a few attempts to crop some of my fawn shots from yesterday to
portray the little guys a bit better:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/fawns

Comments are invited.

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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
exactly!

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 4:35 PM John  wrote:

> How would you crop it without losing that beautiful golden hour glow on
> the side
> of the house?
>
> On 7/11/2019 07:04:06, Alan C wrote:
> > Perhaps you should practice shooting from the hip? Well caught anyway.
> How about
> > a cropped version?
> >
> > Alan C
> >
> > On 11-Jul-19 04:34 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:
> >> On my evening walk with our dog, I saw these fawns on a neighbor's
> lawn.  I
> >> went home to grab my camera, and hurried back.  They were calm, even
> >> curious, but as soon as I raised my camera, the started to back up and
> then
> >> to run away.  I was able to grab a few shots before they disappeared,
> >> including this one:
> >>
> >> http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/head
> >>
> >> K-5 IIs, Tamron 38-300 mm zoom F 3.5-6.3 macro
> >> Comments are invited and appreciated.
> >>
> >> Dan Matyola
> >> http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/danieljmatyola
> >
> >
>
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Re: PUG themes

2019-07-11 Thread Matthew Hunt
And INFRARED

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 7:50 PM Ken Waller  wrote:

> What about including GREEN and BLUE ?
>
> Kenneth Waller
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> - Original Message -
> From: "John" 
> Subject: PUG themes
>
>
> > Looking at Godfrey's Pizza Parlor & Dan's fawns, I'd like to suggest the
> > color RED for one of next year's PUG themes.
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Re: PUG themes

2019-07-11 Thread Ken Waller

What about including GREEN and BLUE ?

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- Original Message - 
From: "John" 

Subject: PUG themes


Looking at Godfrey's Pizza Parlor & Dan's fawns, I'd like to suggest the 
color RED for one of next year's PUG themes.



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Re: PUG themes

2019-07-11 Thread Brian W
> On 12 July 2019 at 06:47 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> Looking at Godfrey's Pizza Parlor & Dan's fawns, I'd like to suggest the color
> 
> RED for one of next year's PUG themes.


Noted :-)

Cheers
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PUG themes

2019-07-11 Thread John
Looking at Godfrey's Pizza Parlor & Dan's fawns, I'd like to suggest the color 
RED for one of next year's PUG themes.



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Re: Still No Joy on the email front.

2019-07-11 Thread John
On the whole, other than the problems I've had with PDML, my experience with 
them has been MOSTLY satisfactory. And they're far from being alone in 
outsourcing their "tech support".


In fact, I've had far worse experiences with off-shored tech support than those 
with EarthLink.



On 7/11/2019 15:56:39, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Chiming in, late, with a comment on Earthlink.
Long story short, they are big fans of the philosophy espoused in the tune 
Hotel California.

Long ago, and far away, long before most mortals had discovered the internet 
and associated time sinks, I had personal and work-related email accounts. When 
I traveled, I used dial-up to access a “server” which maintained my account. I 
had an AOL account since the first month or two of their operation  and used 
that both for personal mail and as a relay for work messages, but their remote 
dial-in sites were concentrated in large urban areas and I could not see 
racking up long distance phone charges just to read my emails from my hotel 
rooms. Earthlink provided a solution. I don’t recall if they had more server 
nodes scattered around or how it worked, but with Earthlink I could dial-in 
with a local call from pretty much anyplace in the country. Fast-forward a few 
years, the web was more robust and had a broader reach. I looked around, asked 
here on PDML, and Mark suggested a local to him company that he had favorable 
dealings with. My trouble free mail and web server business has been with 
pair.com ever since. Meanwhile, I didn’t need Earthlink. The only way to cancel 
an Earthlink subscription is to call them.  I called. Or at least tried to 
call. Eventually I actually was able to talk to someone. They convinced me to 
stay with them, offered a much reduced monthly fee, fewer features. A few years 
later I came to my senses, realized I was paying a much reduced monthly fee for 
a resource I was not using and I called them. And again cancelled my 
subscription. And it took 10-15 minutes of high-pressure salmon haranguing me 
about how I really should leave the family.

When I was actually using their system I never had the issues with Earthlink 
that John has had. And given the financial contributions I have made to them, I 
am surprised they haven’t grown and matured. But I am pleased to have wriggled 
free of their entanglement.

stan



On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:19 PM, John  wrote:

I saw one reply from Cotty in my Yahoo inbox.

I have had NO email from PDML in either my Earthlink inbox or Yahoo inbox since 
that message at 16:25 08Jul2019.

Otherwise, NO email from PDML in either inbox. I'll see if this one shows up in 
Yahoo.





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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread John
How would you crop it without losing that beautiful golden hour glow on the side 
of the house?


On 7/11/2019 07:04:06, Alan C wrote:
Perhaps you should practice shooting from the hip? Well caught anyway. How about 
a cropped version?


Alan C

On 11-Jul-19 04:34 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On my evening walk with our dog, I saw these fawns on a neighbor's lawn.  I
went home to grab my camera, and hurried back.  They were calm, even
curious, but as soon as I raised my camera, the started to back up and then
to run away.  I was able to grab a few shots before they disappeared,
including this one:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/head

K-5 IIs, Tamron 38-300 mm zoom F 3.5-6.3 macro
Comments are invited and appreciated.

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Re: OT: Email seems to be back

2019-07-11 Thread John

That's deep Larry, really deep.

Wish I'd read it before I filled out their "Customer Satisfaction Survey".

On 7/10/2019 18:11:15, l...@red4est.com wrote:

The problem isn't a lack of service, the problem is that EarthLink uses the 
animal husbandry definition of the word.

On July 10, 2019 10:24:49 AM PDT, John  wrote:

... may be back 

I had several long conversations with Earthlink's *tech support* in
Mumbai;
mostly consisting on my part of "I can't understand what you said. Can
you
repeat that?" Someone from *Level Two* tech support was supposed to
call me
yesterday between 11:00am EDT and 8:00pm EDT, but I never heard from
them.

I gave them my cell phone number and I did have my cell phone with me
when I had
to leave the house at 5:00pm to go to my Tuesday night folk music
circle.

This morning my email appears to be working again. Somewhat. At least I
have 49
NEW emails from PDML dated 5 - 9 July.

Nothing dated from today though.

I am going to call them again and demand an explanation why no one
called me
yesterday. I'm paying for service, and I damn well expect to get
service!








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Re: OT: Email seems to be back

2019-07-11 Thread John

Hah!

It's a good thing I decided to check email before I got a cup of coffee, or 
you'd owe me a new keyboard.


On 7/10/2019 18:05:18, Bob Pdml wrote:

Recently PDML has consisted entirely of John's difficulties with emailing the 
PDML, so once his email is sorted out there will be nothing on PDML for him to 
read or reply to.

That's some catch, that Catch-22.



On 10 Jul 2019, at 19:05, Daniel J. Matyola  wrote:

I read you loud and clear, John.
Not much activity on the list today.

Dan Matyola
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On Wed, Jul 10, 2019 at 1:25 PM John  wrote:

... may be back 

I had several long conversations with Earthlink's *tech support* in
Mumbai;
mostly consisting on my part of "I can't understand what you said. Can you
repeat that?" Someone from *Level Two* tech support was supposed to call
me
yesterday between 11:00am EDT and 8:00pm EDT, but I never heard from them.

I gave them my cell phone number and I did have my cell phone with me when
I had
to leave the house at 5:00pm to go to my Tuesday night folk music circle.

This morning my email appears to be working again. Somewhat. At least I
have 49
NEW emails from PDML dated 5 - 9 July.

Nothing dated from today though.

I am going to call them again and demand an explanation why no one called
me
yesterday. I'm paying for service, and I damn well expect to get service!

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Re: Still No Joy on the email front.

2019-07-11 Thread Stanley Halpin
Chiming in, late, with a comment on Earthlink.
Long story short, they are big fans of the philosophy espoused in the tune 
Hotel California.

Long ago, and far away, long before most mortals had discovered the internet 
and associated time sinks, I had personal and work-related email accounts. When 
I traveled, I used dial-up to access a “server” which maintained my account. I 
had an AOL account since the first month or two of their operation  and used 
that both for personal mail and as a relay for work messages, but their remote 
dial-in sites were concentrated in large urban areas and I could not see 
racking up long distance phone charges just to read my emails from my hotel 
rooms. Earthlink provided a solution. I don’t recall if they had more server 
nodes scattered around or how it worked, but with Earthlink I could dial-in 
with a local call from pretty much anyplace in the country. Fast-forward a few 
years, the web was more robust and had a broader reach. I looked around, asked 
here on PDML, and Mark suggested a local to him company that he had favorable 
dealings with. My trouble free mail and web server business has been with 
pair.com ever since. Meanwhile, I didn’t need Earthlink. The only way to cancel 
an Earthlink subscription is to call them.  I called. Or at least tried to 
call. Eventually I actually was able to talk to someone. They convinced me to 
stay with them, offered a much reduced monthly fee, fewer features. A few years 
later I came to my senses, realized I was paying a much reduced monthly fee for 
a resource I was not using and I called them. And again cancelled my 
subscription. And it took 10-15 minutes of high-pressure salmon haranguing me 
about how I really should leave the family.

When I was actually using their system I never had the issues with Earthlink 
that John has had. And given the financial contributions I have made to them, I 
am surprised they haven’t grown and matured. But I am pleased to have wriggled 
free of their entanglement.

stan


> On Jul 8, 2019, at 9:19 PM, John  wrote:
> 
> I saw one reply from Cotty in my Yahoo inbox.
> 
> I have had NO email from PDML in either my Earthlink inbox or Yahoo inbox 
> since that message at 16:25 08Jul2019.
> 
> Otherwise, NO email from PDML in either inbox. I'll see if this one shows up 
> in Yahoo.
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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
Thanks, Steve and Alan.
I also tried cropping and did not come away with something I liked.

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 6:51 AM Steve Cottrell  wrote:

> On 10/7/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:
>
> >On my evening walk with our dog, I saw these fawns on a neighbor's lawn.
> I
> >went home to grab my camera, and hurried back.  They were calm, even
> >curious, but as soon as I raised my camera, the started to back up and
> then
> >to run away.  I was able to grab a few shots before they disappeared,
> >including this one:
> >
> >http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/head
>
> Really nice shot Dan. Very pleasing colours and composition. Serene!
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Re: PESO 2019 - 073 - GDG

2019-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
That is a nice scene, well balanced, with great color and a wonderful sky.
What I like best, however, is the way you caught the shadows.

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 9:15 AM Godfrey DiGiorgi 
wrote:

> Out for my bicycle ride on Tuesday, doing a slightly different take on my
> loop at a different point in the day than usual, I came through the edge of
> the University, rounded the bend, and my eyes were blinded by the glowing
> red umbrellas at the local pizza parlor. I had to stop and photograph it,
> and then I had to figure out how to make the photo look like what blasted
> my retinas …
>
>   https://flic.kr/p/2gwi9S7
>
> The ride after this was tame and "the usual" ... about 19 miles, about
> 12.4 mph average speed, etc. I remember when "the usual" seemed nearly
> impossible.
>
> Enjoy!
> G
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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Alan C
I tried that too but it was soon pixellated. I was hoping to see more 
detail.


Alan C

On 11-Jul-19 05:21 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote:

On 11/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:


How about a cropped version?

Interestingly, I dragged it to my desktop and cropped about a bit, lost the 
tree on the left, then a square format losing all foliage. Didn't work. The 
orignal crop works better for me.




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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 11/7/19, Alan C, discombobulated, unleashed:

>How about a cropped version?

Interestingly, I dragged it to my desktop and cropped about a bit, lost the 
tree on the left, then a square format losing all foliage. Didn't work. The 
orignal crop works better for me.

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Re: OT: Email seems to be back

2019-07-11 Thread Bruce Nagel

On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 09:21:48AM -0400, Larry Colen contributed:


The problem isn't a lack of service, the problem is that EarthLink uses the 
animal husbandry definition of the word.


...and that's a MARK!


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Re: OT: Test Message

2019-07-11 Thread Bill

On 7/11/2019 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action.


That is very much a contradiction in terms.
In Canada, anyway, the majority of class action lawsuits are initiated 
by a handful of ambulance chasers. These are people who are very much in 
it for the money and not any social good that might come from their 
beating up on some corporation.


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Re: OT: Test Message

2019-07-11 Thread Bill

On 7/11/2019 7:20 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action.


That is very much a contradiction in terms.
In Canada, anyway, the majority of class action lawsuits are initiated 
by a handful of ambulance chasers. These are people who are very much in 
it for the money and not any social good that might come from their 
beating up on some corporation.


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Re: OT: Test Message

2019-07-11 Thread Daniel J. Matyola
A have never heard of a "pro bono" class action.

First, the cost of conducting that type of litigation is enormous -- even
excluding attorney fees.

Second, one purpose of creating a class action is to get the court to award
attorneys fees paid by the defendant to the attorneys for the class.

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On Thu, Jul 11, 2019 at 2:02 AM mike wilson  wrote:

>
> Can't you find a leagal eagle willing to initiate a pro bono class action?
>
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PESO 2019 - 073 - GDG

2019-07-11 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Out for my bicycle ride on Tuesday, doing a slightly different take on my loop 
at a different point in the day than usual, I came through the edge of the 
University, rounded the bend, and my eyes were blinded by the glowing red 
umbrellas at the local pizza parlor. I had to stop and photograph it, and then 
I had to figure out how to make the photo look like what blasted my retinas … 

  https://flic.kr/p/2gwi9S7

The ride after this was tame and "the usual" ... about 19 miles, about 12.4 mph 
average speed, etc. I remember when "the usual" seemed nearly impossible. 

Enjoy!
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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Alan C
Perhaps you should practice shooting from the hip? Well caught anyway. 
How about a cropped version?


Alan C

On 11-Jul-19 04:34 AM, Daniel J. Matyola wrote:

On my evening walk with our dog, I saw these fawns on a neighbor's lawn.  I
went home to grab my camera, and hurried back.  They were calm, even
curious, but as soon as I raised my camera, the started to back up and then
to run away.  I was able to grab a few shots before they disappeared,
including this one:

http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/head

K-5 IIs, Tamron 38-300 mm zoom F 3.5-6.3 macro
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Re: PESO: Head to Head

2019-07-11 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 10/7/19, Daniel J. Matyola, discombobulated, unleashed:

>On my evening walk with our dog, I saw these fawns on a neighbor's lawn.  I
>went home to grab my camera, and hurried back.  They were calm, even
>curious, but as soon as I raised my camera, the started to back up and then
>to run away.  I was able to grab a few shots before they disappeared,
>including this one:
>
>http://dan-matyola.squarespace.com/danmatyolas-pesos/2019/7/10/head

Really nice shot Dan. Very pleasing colours and composition. Serene!

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Re: Another GFM snap

2019-07-11 Thread Rob Studdert
Very nice, loved that lens.

On Thu, 13 Jun 2019 at 11:49, Postmaster  wrote:
>
> On Saturday morning we did the annual hike to Shanty Spring Branch to
> practice some stream photography. Lighting was suboptimal: Clear skies
> meant we kept getting hot spots that threatened to ruin most photos. I
> got around it by taking 5 shots (around 20 seconds exposure each) and
> combining them using the "mean" function in Photoshop. Worked out
> pretty well.
>
> https://www.robertstech.com/temp/7e301109-13mean.jpg
> K-1 and FA 20mm f/2.8
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Re: OT: Test Message

2019-07-11 Thread mike wilson


> On 10 July 2019 at 21:26 John  wrote:
> 
> 
> The chronic problem I've had with using Earthlink with PDML has been that the 
> server pool in Atlanta where my emails most often go through regularly 
> appears 
> on the black-hole SPAM blocking service that the PDML server uses. It's one 
> guy 
> SPAMMING mail lists.
> 
> I've talked to Earthlink "tech support" about it and they DON'T CARE.

Can't you find a leagal eagle willing to initiate a pro bono class action?

> 
> On 7/9/2019 10:16:40, Ken Waller wrote:
> > FWIW, I'm having no issues with my E-link account re PDMLPENTAX.
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> >> From: John 
> >> Subject: Re: OT: Test Message
> >>
> >> Thanks. I can see it with Yahoo, but it's still not showing up in my 
> >> Earthlink
> >> account inbox.
> >>
> >> On 7/9/2019 06:32:13, Ralf R Radermacher wrote:
> >>> Am 09.07.19 um 11:50 schrieb John Sessoms:
> >>>
>  Still trying to sort out my email problems. Can't tell for sure if only
>  PDML is affected.
> >>>
> >>> Received loud and clear in Cologne.
> >>>
> >>> Ralf

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