Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

2009-10-15 Thread Giovanni Tummarello
Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]

i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
usually intended for reflecting reality on the other i'd see obvious
practical advantages.

Maybe we could offer an archive service, parallel to the cache?

just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?

Giovanni

[1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
alexgarc...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can find them at:
 http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
 this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas l...@laga.ath.cx wrote:

 Hello everyone,


 I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.

 Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?

 The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
 dead.


 Regards,


 Michael





 --
 Alexander Garcia
 http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
 http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
 Postal address:
 Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
 Universität Bremen
 Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
 D-28359 Bremen




Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

2009-10-15 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
specific point in time.

-Alan


On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
 Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
 place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]

 i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
 usually intended for reflecting reality on the other i'd see obvious
 practical advantages.

 Maybe we could offer an archive service, parallel to the cache?

 just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?

 Giovanni

 [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi

 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
 alexgarc...@gmail.com wrote:
 You can find them at:
 http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
 this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.

 On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas l...@laga.ath.cx wrote:

 Hello everyone,


 I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.

 Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?

 The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl is
 dead.


 Regards,


 Michael





 --
 Alexander Garcia
 http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
 http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
 Postal address:
 Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
 Universität Bremen
 Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
 D-28359 Bremen






Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

2009-10-15 Thread Alexander Garcia Castro
wayback similar to the time machine available in Mac would be great. as for
imports, imports are just one type of mappings; the situation will be more
complex as soon as people start to map across ontology repositories;
Bioportal does not support mappings across ontologies sitting on diferent
bioportal servers. capturing, or making it compulsory for people to porviede
all the imported ontologies when submitting ontologies to a repository is
something we will work out early next year.

On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Ruttenberg
alanruttenb...@gmail.comwrote:

 What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
 So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
 imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
 adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
 specific point in time.

 -Alan


 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
 g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
  Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
  place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
 
  i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
  usually intended for reflecting reality on the other i'd see obvious
  practical advantages.
 
  Maybe we could offer an archive service, parallel to the cache?
 
  just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
 
  Giovanni
 
  [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
 
  On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
  alexgarc...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can find them at:
  http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
  this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
 
  On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas l...@laga.ath.cx wrote:
 
  Hello everyone,
 
 
  I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
 
  Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
 
  The original link at 
  http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owlhttp://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/%7Ejcantais/PIPSFood.owlis
  dead.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Michael
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Alexander Garcia
  http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
  http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
  Postal address:
  Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
  Universität Bremen
  Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
  D-28359 Bremen
 
 
 




-- 
Alexander Garcia
http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
Postal address:
Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
Universität Bremen
Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
D-28359 Bremen


Re: Mirror for PIPS food ontology?

2009-10-15 Thread Alan Ruttenberg
On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alexander Garcia Castro
alexgarc...@gmail.com wrote:
 wayback similar to the time machine available in Mac would be great. as for
 imports, imports are just one type of mappings;

An import isn't a mapping and more than a type declaration is a mapping.

 the situation will be more
 complex as soon as people start to map across ontology repositories;
 Bioportal does not support mappings across ontologies sitting on diferent
 bioportal servers.

I don't understand this. Ontologies are given URIs for terms. The
identity of an ontology term should be independent of where it's kept,
whether bioportal or its usual location on the web.

 capturing, or making it compulsory for people to porviede
 all the imported ontologies when submitting ontologies to a repository is
 something we will work out early next year.




 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Alan Ruttenberg alanruttenb...@gmail.com
 wrote:

 What would be nice would be to have a wayback machine for ontologies.
 So I could go and get a particular version. Extra points if the
 imported ontologies were captured at the same time and pointers
 adjusted so that one could easily use an ontology as it was at a
 specific point in time.

 -Alan


 On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 7:25 AM, Giovanni Tummarello
 g.tummare...@gmail.com wrote:
  Kind of make me thing.. we could put it virtually back in the same
  place as originally on our Sindice cache [1]
 
  i wonder if the operation make sense.. on the one hand a chace is
  usually intended for reflecting reality on the other i'd see obvious
  practical advantages.
 
  Maybe we could offer an archive service, parallel to the cache?
 
  just trying to figure out what can help developers, ideas?
 
  Giovanni
 
  [1] http://sindice.com/developers/cacheapi
 
  On Thu, Oct 15, 2009 at 12:15 PM, Alexander Garcia Castro
  alexgarc...@gmail.com wrote:
  You can find them at:
  http://babel.informatik.uni-bremen.de/ontologies
  this is our Onto repository, built upon BioPortal technology. cheers.
 
  On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 3:25 PM, Michael Haas l...@laga.ath.cx wrote:
 
  Hello everyone,
 
 
  I hope it is not inappropriate to ask this question here.
 
  Does anyone have a copy of the PIPS food ontology?
 
  The original link at http://www.csc.liv.ac.uk/~jcantais/PIPSFood.owl
  is
  dead.
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
  Michael
 
 
 
 
 
  --
  Alexander Garcia
  http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
  http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
  http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
  Postal address:
  Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
  Universität Bremen
  Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
  D-28359 Bremen
 
 
 



 --
 Alexander Garcia
 http://www.alexandergarcia.name/
 http://www.usefilm.com/photographer/75943.html
 http://www.linkedin.com/in/alexgarciac
 Postal address:
 Alexander Garcia, Tel.: +49 421 218 64211
 Universität Bremen
 Enrique-Schmidt-Str. 5
 D-28359 Bremen