Re: [Ql-Users] MAW in Easyptr4 - help

[François Van Emelen via Ql-Users]

Op 17/08/2017 om 20:36 schreef Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users:

Hi everyone, I have a doubt about the EASYPTR4 Application windows
I put an array in an Application Window Menu, then I defined that the first
letters of each element are underlined and usable as shortkey.
Shortcuts can only be used if the pointer is located above the application
windows.
   If the pointer is somewhere else, these short keys can not be used. Is it
a feature or a bug?
In either case, how can I do this to use these shortkeys regardless of the
position of the pointer?

thanks in advance

Giorgio
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Hi Giorgio,

It is a feature not a bug.

Shortkeys should be 'linked' to a 'Loose object' that allows them to be 
useable/available all the time execpt when in 'editing mode'.


If you want to choose something with a press on a key, you should use 
dropdown menus or use Jochen's menu extension.


That is how I do it.

François Van Emelen


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Re: [Ql-Users] MAW in Easyptr4 - help

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

In that case I would use the appsub with the lowest number, ignoring the
others.
There is already a similar case: if there are two shortkey in the same
appsub, the first is always considered, ignoring the other.
But of course it's just an idea.

An even more sophisticated thing would be that in case of duplicate
shortkeys they would pass by one to another, but I fully understand that it
would be really complicated to do

2017-08-18 9:58 GMT+02:00 Wolf via Ql-Users :

> Hi,
>
> This isn't fixable - by design.
>
> Don't forget that a window may have several appsub windows, which may have
> the same selection keys for their elements (e.g. a filemanager that would
> have two file windows). How would you distinguish between them? So, appsub
> windows get the keystroke ony if the pointer is over them.
>
> Makes sense to me.
>
> HTH
>
> Wolfgang
>
>
>
>
> On 17/08/2017 20:36, Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users wrote:
>
>> Hi everyone, I have a doubt about the EASYPTR4 Application windows
>> I put an array in an Application Window Menu, then I defined that the
>> first
>> letters of each element are underlined and usable as shortkey.
>> Shortcuts can only be used if the pointer is located above the application
>> windows.
>>If the pointer is somewhere else, these short keys can not be used. Is
>> it
>> a feature or a bug?
>> In either case, how can I do this to use these shortkeys regardless of the
>> position of the pointer?
>>
>> thanks in advance
>>
>> Giorgio
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Re: [Ql-Users] MAW in Easyptr4 - help

[Wolf via Ql-Users]

Hi,

This isn't fixable - by design.

Don't forget that a window may have several appsub windows, which may 
have the same selection keys for their elements (e.g. a filemanager that 
would have two file windows). How would you distinguish between them? 
So, appsub windows get the keystroke ony if the pointer is over them.


Makes sense to me.

HTH

Wolfgang



On 17/08/2017 20:36, Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users wrote:

Hi everyone, I have a doubt about the EASYPTR4 Application windows
I put an array in an Application Window Menu, then I defined that the first
letters of each element are underlined and usable as shortkey.
Shortcuts can only be used if the pointer is located above the application
windows.
   If the pointer is somewhere else, these short keys can not be used. Is it
a feature or a bug?
In either case, how can I do this to use these shortkeys regardless of the
position of the pointer?

thanks in advance

Giorgio
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Re: [Ql-Users] MAW in Easyptr4 - help

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

2017-08-17 22:01 GMT+02:00 Per Witte via Ql-Users 
:

> I dont know of an easy way. It seems to be a feature of Wman. The two
> solutions I can suggest are:
>
> 1. Two-step approach: Have a keypress, say TAB, to select the MAW, then
> press the relevant key.
>

This seems to be an acceptable solution, certainly the ideal solution would
be to improve WMAN ... :-D

>
> 2. Hidden Loose Items: If there are not too many items in the MAW, and they
> remain the same throughout the session, add some hidden Loose Items to the
> main menu. Hidden LIs are buttons with no dimensions at a convenient
> out-of-the-way location in the main window, that have a selection keystroke
> as their only property. Make those selection keys the same as for the MAW
> ones and let them perform the same actions, that way, whichever window the
> pointer is in the same keystrokes will lead to the same actions seamlessly.
>
> The content of the windows application is dynamic, so I can not know what
>> it contains and can change the language, so I do not think it's a viable
>> solution.
>
> But this idea of hidden loose items seems intriguing for other uses. Also
>> i'm not sure you understand how it works, can you try to explain the idea
>> with more details please?
>
>
Giorgio
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[Ql-Users] MAW in Easyptr4 - help

[Giorgio Garabello via Ql-Users]

Hi everyone, I have a doubt about the EASYPTR4 Application windows
I put an array in an Application Window Menu, then I defined that the first
letters of each element are underlined and usable as shortkey.
Shortcuts can only be used if the pointer is located above the application
windows.
  If the pointer is somewhere else, these short keys can not be used. Is it
a feature or a bug?
In either case, how can I do this to use these shortkeys regardless of the
position of the pointer?

thanks in advance

Giorgio
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