RE: Dent Link Again

2006-10-26 Thread Steve Sanders
Sure thing, David.  The Dent paper looks to me like crap, not a piece of
scholarship.  

Wasn't sure if you remembered, but we've met a couple of times at
conferences and such.  I competed in the Williams Project moot court two
years ago, and I saw you at Lav Law this past fall.

Thanks for the note,

Steve

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 Subject: RE: Dent Link Again
 
 Dear Mr. Sanders:
 
 Thank you for calling Dent out on this.  Let us hope he corrects his
 falsehoods before hard copy publication somewhere.  (Professor now Judge
 Michael McConnell failed to do so even after I had immediately cited him
 to Badgett when he circulated a draft chapter for an anthology.)
 
 Sincerely yours,
 
 David B. Cruz
 Professor of Law
 University of Southern California Gould School of Law
 Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071
 U.S.A.
 
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 Two pages into this obviously tendentious piece of research, one
 spots a tellingly flawed premise:  The goal of the gay movement are
 [sic] not primarily economic; most gays already have above-average
 incomes.
 
 The cite for this old canard is a 12-year-old article in the Notre Dame
 Law Review.  Much more recent and readily accessible work would have
 saved Dent from such carelessness.  See, e.g., M. Lee Badgett, Money,
 Myths, and Change: The Economic Lives of Lesbians and Gay Men
 (University of Chicago Press, 2001).
 
 Steve Sanders
 Mayer Brown Rowe  Maw LLP
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RE: Dent Link Again

2006-10-25 Thread Scarberry, Mark
The hyperlink in Rick's last message somehow included the word Civil. The 
link works if you delete that word. So here is the correct URL:
 
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=931257
 
Now to read the paper.
 
Mark Scarberry
Pepperdine



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I don't know why the link isn't working. Here is one more attempt:
 
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=931257Civil Rights for 
Whom?: Gay Rights versus Religious Freedom 

Rick


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University of Nebraska College of Law 
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Re: Dent Link Again

2006-10-25 Thread Steve Sanders
Two pages into this obviously tendentious piece of research, one 
spots a tellingly flawed premise:  The goal of the gay movement are 
[sic] not primarily economic; most gays already have above-average 
incomes.


The cite for this old canard is a 12-year-old article in the Notre Dame 
Law Review.  Much more recent and readily accessible work would have 
saved Dent from such carelessness.  See, e.g., M. Lee Badgett, Money, 
Myths, and Change: The Economic Lives of Lesbians and Gay Men 
(University of Chicago Press, 2001).


Steve Sanders
Mayer Brown Rowe  Maw LLP
Chicago




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RE: Dent Link Again

2006-10-25 Thread David Cruz
Dear Mr. Sanders:

Thank you for calling Dent out on this.  Let us hope he corrects his
falsehoods before hard copy publication somewhere.  (Professor now Judge
Michael McConnell failed to do so even after I had immediately cited him
to Badgett when he circulated a draft chapter for an anthology.)

Sincerely yours,

David B. Cruz
Professor of Law
University of Southern California Gould School of Law
Los Angeles, CA 90089-0071
U.S.A.

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Two pages into this obviously tendentious piece of research, one 
spots a tellingly flawed premise:  The goal of the gay movement are 
[sic] not primarily economic; most gays already have above-average 
incomes.

The cite for this old canard is a 12-year-old article in the Notre Dame 
Law Review.  Much more recent and readily accessible work would have 
saved Dent from such carelessness.  See, e.g., M. Lee Badgett, Money, 
Myths, and Change: The Economic Lives of Lesbians and Gay Men 
(University of Chicago Press, 2001).

Steve Sanders
Mayer Brown Rowe  Maw LLP
Chicago




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