Re: [1st] 6100 acting flakey

2005-11-16 Thread Matt Emson



 Its driving me nuts, because I rather liked the idea of having an (old) PC
 and Mac in one. Any ideas?

You can probably pick up a replacement 6100 for peanuts. I once got 3 in a
lot of 9 Macs for less than $40, and that was over two years ago. They're
probably cheaper now. I've seen them sell on eBay for $1.

M


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Re: [1st] 6100 acting flakey

2005-11-16 Thread Richard Halkyard

Matt Emson wrote:

You can probably pick up a replacement 6100 for peanuts. I once got 3 in a
lot of 9 Macs for less than $40, and that was over two years ago. They're
probably cheaper now. I've seen them sell on eBay for $1.


Fair enough. It'll make a good parts source then.

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Re: [1st] 6100 acting flakey

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew S. Carpenter

Richard Halkyard wrote:


Matt Emson wrote:

You can probably pick up a replacement 6100 for peanuts. I once got 3 
in a
lot of 9 Macs for less than $40, and that was over two years ago. 
They're

probably cheaper now. I've seen them sell on eBay for $1.



Fair enough. It'll make a good parts source then.

My old 6100 started crashing real hard... would get these four dots up 
in the top corner and no reset other than power it down, power it up or 
use reset in the back...


Anyway, this was when I was still in Junior high... so I took it to 
school to get help from the network admin there but when I was 
fighting with the door whille holding the computer I lost hold it 
slipped... I tried to grab it but still ended up dropping it about a 
foot... Anyway when I brought it to the lab upstairs I couldn't get the 
damn thing to glitch out...Gad, it made me look like an ass.


So I went home and it started doing it again a few months later... read 
on lowendmac about heat issues and remembere reading stories about 
people fixing Apple III's by dropping them to reseat chips that came 
loose due to the heat problems in it causing the board to flex enough to 
have the chips kinda wedged out of place


so with that I got an idea... I popped it open and removed reseated 
every single thing that was socketed in it... SCSI cables, RAM, ROM, 
Cashe, Power... just every thing. presto chango problems went away.  
anyway, it comes back once in a while... Was bloody annoying back when I 
didn't know what the hell was going on... And this symptom is not 
documented anywhere.


-Matthew S. Carpenter
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Re: [1st] 6100 acting flakey

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew S. Carpenter

Matthew S. Carpenter wrote:


Richard Halkyard wrote:


Matt Emson wrote:

You can probably pick up a replacement 6100 for peanuts. I once got 
3 in a
lot of 9 Macs for less than $40, and that was over two years ago. 
They're

probably cheaper now. I've seen them sell on eBay for $1.




Fair enough. It'll make a good parts source then.

My old 6100 started crashing real hard... would get these four dots up 
in the top corner and no reset other than power it down, power it up 
or use reset in the back...


Anyway, this was when I was still in Junior high... so I took it to 
school to get help from the network admin there but when I was 
fighting with the door whille holding the computer I lost hold it 
slipped... I tried to grab it but still ended up dropping it about a 
foot... Anyway when I brought it to the lab upstairs I couldn't get 
the damn thing to glitch out...Gad, it made me look like an ass.


So I went home and it started doing it again a few months later... 
read on lowendmac about heat issues and remembere reading stories 
about people fixing Apple III's by dropping them to reseat chips that 
came loose due to the heat problems in it causing the board to flex 
enough to have the chips kinda wedged out of place


so with that I got an idea... I popped it open and removed reseated 
every single thing that was socketed in it... SCSI cables, RAM, ROM, 
Cashe, Power... just every thing. presto chango problems went away.  
anyway, it comes back once in a while... Was bloody annoying back when 
I didn't know what the hell was going on... And this symptom is not 
documented anywhere.


-Matthew S. Carpenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Obviously though, I don't read far enough.  If that doesn't fix it, 
you're probably better off no screwing aroudn with it... but I woudln't 
bother getting another 6100... There are nicer computers out there... 
just try to find one that isn't know to have so many problems that has a 
PDS slot that will work with the DOS card.


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Re: [1st] 6100 acting flakey

2005-11-16 Thread Matthew S. Carpenter

Matthew S. Carpenter wrote:





My old 6100 started crashing real hard... would get these four dots 
up in the top corner and no reset other than power it down, power it 
up or use reset in the back...


Anyway, this was when I was still in Junior high... so I took it to 
school to get help from the network admin there but when I was 
fighting with the door whille holding the computer I lost hold it 
slipped... I tried to grab it but still ended up dropping it about a 
foot... Anyway when I brought it to the lab upstairs I couldn't get 
the damn thing to glitch out...Gad, it made me look like an ass.


So I went home and it started doing it again a few months later... 
read on lowendmac about heat issues and remembere reading stories 
about people fixing Apple III's by dropping them to reseat chips that 
came loose due to the heat problems in it causing the board to flex 
enough to have the chips kinda wedged out of place


so with that I got an idea... I popped it open and removed reseated 
every single thing that was socketed in it... SCSI cables, RAM, ROM, 
Cashe, Power... just every thing. presto chango problems went away.  
anyway, it comes back once in a while... Was bloody annoying back 
when I didn't know what the hell was going on... And this symptom is 
not documented anywhere.


-Matthew S. Carpenter
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Obviously though, I don't read far enough.  If that doesn't fix it, 
you're probably better off no screwing aroudn with it... but I 
woudln't bother getting another 6100... There are nicer computers out 
there... just try to find one that isn't know to have so many problems 
that has a PDS slot that will work with the DOS card.


Oy I never get it all in one message before I think of something 
else :-/ 

It's probably got cracked solder joints in it since resocketing stuff 
didn't do it... intermitent hardware problem from the heat problems... I 
never had any extra cards in my 6100 I imagine the addition of a 486 
card or whatever the DOS card is probably makes it even hotter. It's 
really kind of sad the 6100 had to get such a poor design as far as 
cooling is concerned.


I swear, I'm not going to post anymore on this issue unless requested.  
Really.


-Matt

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