Re: [9fans] sources down
i think what annoys people is things (experiments, code, entire operating systems) that are intended to be kept private neverthess stil get mentioned. the happiest scenario is the one we just witnessed: after an exchange of several more messages on the list, the bits got published. thanks, david. sl
Re: [9fans] sources down
no i agree lucio, i failed in believing what you described would be obvious to everybody involved. the script itself is rather simple. but the outcome is more important: thanks to david for making sure everybody can find the plan9 history on google/github without having to get too deeply involved.
Re: [9fans] sources down
There's the other side of the coin, too, just so everyone can tell I'm cursed with seeing more than one side of situations like this: no one can learn much from "private exchanges". So David's freedom not to publish a one-off ought to be weighed against the benefit that someone may be able to build on the knowledge he or she may have picked up from it. But I'm making a mountain out of a molehill and I apologise for that. At the same time, I would like to thank David: his contributions are going mostly unrewarded, the occasional show of gratitude is probably a good thing. Lucio. :-) On 12/31/18, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/31/18, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: >> This “send it to you privately” ethos is a problem on this list. Why not >> make it public? > > I generally agree, but in this case he was forced to spend more work > (cleaning up, and documenting it). > From my experience with scripts of the same length the work to write > it is probably less than the work to clean it up and document it. And > the task has to be done only once anyway, so not worth it (Unless we > get the annotations). > > -- Lucio De Re 2 Piet Retief St Kestell (Eastern Free State) 9860 South Africa Ph.: +27 58 653 1433 Cell: +27 83 251 5824 FAX: +27 58 653 1435
Re: [9fans] sources down
On 12/31/18, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > This “send it to you privately” ethos is a problem on this list. Why not > make it public? I generally agree, but in this case he was forced to spend more work (cleaning up, and documenting it). >From my experience with scripts of the same length the work to write it is probably less than the work to clean it up and document it. And the task has to be done only once anyway, so not worth it (Unless we get the annotations).
Re: [9fans] sources down
"David du Colombier" <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Let me restate the question. When one has only the "new" file and > > the ed script that created it from the "old" one, and said script > > says "delete lines N through M", how does one recover the lines > > that were deleted? (With context or unified diffs, the deleted text > > is there.) > > I don't think you can "reverse" the ed scripts produced with "diff -e", > unlike unified diff files. > > However, in 9hist, the files are always reconstructed forward, > starting from the complete original file. OK, then it makes sense then. Much thanks! Arnold
Re: [9fans] sources down
> Let me restate the question. When one has only the "new" file and > the ed script that created it from the "old" one, and said script > says "delete lines N through M", how does one recover the lines > that were deleted? (With context or unified diffs, the deleted text > is there.) I don't think you can "reverse" the ed scripts produced with "diff -e", unlike unified diff files. However, in 9hist, the files are always reconstructed forward, starting from the complete original file. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] sources down
Well, here is it: http://www.9legacy.org/9legacy/tools/9hist-to-git.sh The notes are inside the script. -- David du Colombier
Re: [9fans] Acme resize bug
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018, at 10:22 PM, Jacob Moody wrote: > Hello 9fans, > > I've noticed that sometimes when resizing acme columns there is a > strip left at the bottom that doesn't get redrawn. > It's a bit hard to notice with the default colours, but changing it up > makes it more obvious. > I was able to fix it with this the following patch but am not sure if > this is the best way to go about fixing it. > > diff -u /dist/clean/plan9front/sys/src/cmd/acme/cols.c > /sys/src/cmd/acme/cols.c > --- /dist/clean/plan9front/sys/src/cmd/acme/cols.c Thu Nov 1 15:02:44 2018 > +++ /sys/src/cmd/acme/cols.c Thu Nov 1 15:38:53 2018 > @@ -204,6 +204,7 @@ > draw(screen, r2, display->black, nil, ZP); > r1.min.y = r2.max.y; > r1.min.y = winresize(w, r1, FALSE); > + draw(screen, r1, textcols[BACK], nil, ZP); > } > c->r = r; > } That will work, but that strip which doesn't get redrawn is also where Acme won't see the mouse as being in any window or tag. Since it's sometimes useful to see it, you might want to draw it in display->back or display->white, I guess. If one of those is already your background color i guess you'll need a new global pointer for a new color, or maybe use an existing color which happens to be subtly different. I'm not posting my code, my brain switches off half-way through finding out how to do it, and then I forget what I've done until I want to post it here and look it up...
Re: [9fans] sources down
hi, one “send it privately” event does not an ethos make. i am speaking for Davide here, but i do not think he feels the it was worth publishing widely, being a throw away script. i am going to spend some time and try and beautify it, if i succeed i will post my version. if in the meantime, you are desperate for a copy you could contact him directly and he may well send you a copy. none of us are required to publish everything we write. -Steve > On 31 Dec 2018, at 8:21 am, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > > This “send it to you privately” ethos is a problem on this list. Why not make > it public? > > —dho > >> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 2:55 PM David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > do you have a script that you used to generate the 9hist repository? >> > I always planned to ingest it into my venti. >> > >> > I have already put a few old floppy and cdrom from my past in >> > venti as limited //mmdd/usr/steve/... so the 9hist could go in >> > as //mmdd/sys/src/9/... >> >> Yes, but beware it's a throw-away script. I'll send it to you privately. >> >> -- >> David du Colombier >>
Re: [9fans] sources down
> On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:58:20PM -0700, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > > > > How does that work if lines were deleted? Kurt H Maier wrote: > [ example session, deleted ] Let me restate the question. When one has only the "new" file and the ed script that created it from the "old" one, and said script says "delete lines N through M", how does one recover the lines that were deleted? (With context or unified diffs, the deleted text is there.) Thanks, Arnold
Re: [9fans] sources down
I guess it's a choice we need to be free to make. Sometimes the effort involved in making something sufficiently polished for publication is too much, when one is too self-conscious to dump a dog's breakfast for the Internet to vomit over forever (no reflection over David's coding). There isn't a good place to draw that line, Devon, let's just encourage posting, maybe offer to help tidying up. If that doesn't work, then one must just accept the choice made by the originator. Lucio. PS: To push the point a bit: forty odd years ago the anecdote I heard involved an APL one-liner that erased itself on completion. I think that is "justified". On 12/31/18, Devon H. O'Dell wrote: > This “send it to you privately” ethos is a problem on this list. Why not > make it public? > > —dho > > On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 2:55 PM David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> > do you have a script that you used to generate the 9hist repository? >> > I always planned to ingest it into my venti. >> > >> > I have already put a few old floppy and cdrom from my past in >> > venti as limited //mmdd/usr/steve/... so the 9hist could go in >> > as //mmdd/sys/src/9/... >> >> Yes, but beware it's a throw-away script. I'll send it to you privately. >> >> -- >> David du Colombier >> >> > -- Lucio De Re 2 Piet Retief St Kestell (Eastern Free State) 9860 South Africa Ph.: +27 58 653 1433 Cell: +27 83 251 5824 FAX: +27 58 653 1435
Re: [9fans] sources down
This “send it to you privately” ethos is a problem on this list. Why not make it public? —dho On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 2:55 PM David du Colombier <0in...@gmail.com> wrote: > > do you have a script that you used to generate the 9hist repository? > > I always planned to ingest it into my venti. > > > > I have already put a few old floppy and cdrom from my past in > > venti as limited //mmdd/usr/steve/... so the 9hist could go in > > as //mmdd/sys/src/9/... > > Yes, but beware it's a throw-away script. I'll send it to you privately. > > -- > David du Colombier > >
Re: [9fans] sources down
On Sun, Dec 30, 2018 at 11:58:20PM -0700, arn...@skeeve.com wrote: > > How does that work if lines were deleted? > > Thanks, > > Arnold > $ cat one two a b c d e f g h i a b c g h i j k l $ diff -e one two 3a j k l . 2d khm
