Re: [9fans] Balancing Progress and Accessibility in the Plan 9 Community. (Was: [9fans] Interoperating between 9legacy and 9front)

[Clout Tolstoy]

It's very clear at this point Vic Has never read the 9front FAQ or perhaps
any other documentation provided by 9front.

Some of the things they ask from the community seem I'll informed because
of that and other reasons (like asking for GPU drivers from the community
for Nvidia or AMD is out of context of what an open source community can
provide)

Another won't fix issue is that it seems that they're unsure if they can
port some 9front code for 9legacy because it might not survive a closed
source audit for resale.

It doesn't seem they want to bring value to the project and just take
control.

Am I missing something?

On Fri, May 17, 2024, 6:33 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Great that you're building AI prompts instead of operating systems.
> More trollfactories for "cyber" "warfare" will mean that all our
> trolls will be out of a job soon. Vic, what you post on linkedin
> sounds mainly like a big "fuck you" towards 9front, not a fair answer
> given the technical contributions brought here by others.
> 
> Again, please send patches, not propaganda.

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Re: [9fans] Trouble compiling "Hello, world"

[Clout Tolstoy]

Years ago I worked at a non-profit called FreeGeek (in Portland, Oregon
USA) . We used to do grants for computers and sent some over to Uganda,
amongst other places. I'm not sure of their current status on their grant,
but it could be worth a shot.  You might be able to get the hardware for
free, and grants for shipping through someone else.

On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 8:59 PM Lucio De Re  wrote:

> Thank, Kurt. The SDF home page no doubt needs a small fix.
>
> That is a lot of information and seems the product of much effort.
> I'll find some time to assimilate it, see if there is anything I can
> contribute.
>
> Lucio.
>
> On 8/2/22, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 05:38:39AM +0200, Lucio De Re wrote:
> >> It's a shame that the SDF wiki
> >> (https://wiki.sdf.org/doku.php?id=vps_-_plan_9_9front) returns a
> >> missing page.
> >
> > Looks like it just got moved:
> > https://wiki.sdf.org/doku.php?id=plan_9_9front
> >
> > khm
> 
> 
> --
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> 9860 South Africa
> 
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Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

[Clout Tolstoy]

It's actually Mr. Tolstoy. Mr. Clout Tolstoy, and to be frank if you're not
useful or
have interest in helping, why waste your time? I have interest in helping
if I can.

What do you have to offer? Really? I have plenty of time to offer.

On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 10:19 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> no regards at all. stop spamming mr. clout.
>
> On 1/25/22, Clout Tolstoy  wrote:
> > Yo! Work with them if you want to, don't work with them if you don't want
> > to.
> > So, please stop spamming the list with useless infos. Where are all the
> > adults here?
> > Most of you have posted NOTHING useful and probably feel proud of
> yourself,
> > perhaps angry at others?
> >
> > If you can't control what triggers you, maybe you shouldn't go out in
> > public so freely?
> > Or do some self-work, so what triggers you doesn't affect others.  I for
> > one, am  happy
> > for when people announce themselves as allies, or non-allies. Saves me
> > time.
> >
> > adding "+1" is a joke of a comment and 10,000% useless data. STOP with it
> > please.
> > You don't care about their opinions, why should others care about your
> > stupid "+1"?
> >
> > The latest vandel is just an idiot with a keyboard, please don't be that
> > person.
> >
> > I'm here to learn about Plan 9, C coding and hopefully find like minded
> > people to
> > do so with. EVeryone that has opposed this topic here is just a
> > conserivtive snowflake
> > melting with rage in the heat? Is that what I am understanding correctly?
> >
> > If this list isn't about how Plan9 can be the best it could ever be,
> > especially with new
> > people, then get off it please?
> >
> > Now, I'll go back to making popcorn, and watching all the snowflakes
> piled
> > up, melting
> > away. Please  stop being the oppressors of information.
> >
> > Cheers and my best regards!
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:29 AM Wes Kussmaul  wrote:
> >
> >> On 1/25/22 03:58, hiro wrote:
> >> >> A decade ago this list was still a pleasant space
> >> > not really. but i guess you weren't around to truly experience it?
> >> > haven't seen your name in older archives.
> >>
> >> Back then we had discordians disrupting things for sport.
> >>
> >> The latest vandal version is the social justice warrior.
> >>
> >> There will always be unhappy people who have a need to spread their
> >> unhappiness.
> >>
> >> > Sorry Rux Cox, last reply.
> >> > excellent. thanks for leaving after all.
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> --
> >>
> >> *Wes Kussmaul*
> >>
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> >>
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Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

[Clout Tolstoy]

Yo! Work with them if you want to, don't work with them if you don't want
to.
So, please stop spamming the list with useless infos. Where are all the
adults here?
Most of you have posted NOTHING useful and probably feel proud of yourself,
perhaps angry at others?

If you can't control what triggers you, maybe you shouldn't go out in
public so freely?
Or do some self-work, so what triggers you doesn't affect others.  I for
one, am  happy
for when people announce themselves as allies, or non-allies. Saves me time.

adding "+1" is a joke of a comment and 10,000% useless data. STOP with it
please.
You don't care about their opinions, why should others care about your
stupid "+1"?

The latest vandel is just an idiot with a keyboard, please don't be that
person.

I'm here to learn about Plan 9, C coding and hopefully find like minded
people to
do so with. EVeryone that has opposed this topic here is just a
conserivtive snowflake
melting with rage in the heat? Is that what I am understanding correctly?

If this list isn't about how Plan9 can be the best it could ever be,
especially with new
people, then get off it please?

Now, I'll go back to making popcorn, and watching all the snowflakes piled
up, melting
away. Please  stop being the oppressors of information.

Cheers and my best regards!



On Tue, Jan 25, 2022 at 4:29 AM Wes Kussmaul  wrote:

> On 1/25/22 03:58, hiro wrote:
> >> A decade ago this list was still a pleasant space
> > not really. but i guess you weren't around to truly experience it?
> > haven't seen your name in older archives.
>
> Back then we had discordians disrupting things for sport.
>
> The latest vandal version is the social justice warrior.
>
> There will always be unhappy people who have a need to spread their
> unhappiness.
>
> > Sorry Rux Cox, last reply.
> > excellent. thanks for leaving after all.
> 
> +1
> 
> --
> 
> *Wes Kussmaul*
> 
> *Reliable Identities, Inc.*
> an Authenticity Enterprise
> 738 Main Street
> Waltham, MA 02451 USA
> t: +1 781 790 1674
> m: +1 781 330 1881
> e: w...@reliableid.com
> 
> Learn About Authenticity 
> 
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> protected by work product immunity or other legal rules. If you have
> received it by mistake, please let us know by e-mail reply and delete it
> from your system; you may not copy this message or disclose its contents
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> 

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Re: [9fans] Sponsoring a new Intro book by the Flan 9 Poundation

[Clout Tolstoy]

Can we be mindful of posting useful information? The original author,
albeit has an opinion, but also offered resources for work. I would put
that on the useful side of things. Simply lamenting an opinion because it
doesn't align with yours is edging on spamming. They have been forward with
themselves and are looking for like minded people to work with. I suppose
half of you all are doing them a favor by opting out.

On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 9:55 AM Pablo Tesari  wrote:

> did I subscribe to 9fags ? 樂
>
> On Mon, 24 Jan 2022 at 14:51, Duke Normandin  wrote:
>
>> Fuck you asshole!  It’s garbage like you that morphs pleasant venues into
>> fucking cesspools.
>>
>> > On Jan 24, 2022, at 10:42 AM, Kurt H Maier via 9fans <9fans@9fans.net>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > On Mon, Jan 24, 2022 at 05:38:19AM -0700, Duke Normandin wrote:
>> >>
>> >>
>>  On 1/24/22, Alexandr Babic  wrote:
>> 
>>  hello.
>> 
>>  please don't put any politics here, everyone has own political
>> opinion, but
>>  discuss it elsewhere.
>>  sub-word "trans" should be used only inside "transpiler" word when
>> talking
>>  about computers :-) :-)
>> 
>>  thanx, a.b.
>> >>
>> >> I agree.  This mailing list is turning out to be a bit too fucking
>> bizarro for my taste.
>> >
>> > If you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen.  Nobody owes you a
>> > safe space, snowflake.
>> >
>> > khm
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Re: [9fans] Ultrafiltered Ideal Plan 9

[Clout Tolstoy]

I'm down to do testing. I'm not the best coder, but this has been a pipe
dream of mine for over a decade or so, lol.

On Fri, Jan 21, 2022, 3:00 AM hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think the plan is the survival of intelligent life
>
> On 1/21/22, Aram Hăvărneanu  wrote:
> > So what's the plan?
> >
> > --
> > Aram Hăvărneanu

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