Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Also, Windows NT support! nice touch :)

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 10:00 AM Skip Tavakkolian <
skip.tavakkol...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Very cool!
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM  wrote:
>
>> vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:
>>
>> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1
>>
>> script i use to run openbsd:
>>
>> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd
>>
>> in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
>> is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
>> installation.
>>
>> note: performance is terrible.
>>
>> sl
>>
>>
>>


Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread sl
Yes, you get full graphics, but performance is terrible (the frame buffer is 
emulated entirely in software). You can run any browser, and everything works, 
but probably not fast enough for regular use. I have used Chromium in a pinch 
to login to Patreon, PayPal, etc.

Gimp also works fine (if very, very slowly). I have used it to make edits to 
9front propaganda.

sl



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Nick Owens
while we're on the subject, here's a half-assed script called
'inception' to boot your 9front kernel in a vmx instance on a terminal
while sharing the host's fs.

#!/bin/rc
# inception

rfork ne

ramfs

ip=`{ndb/query sys $sysname ip}

aux/listen1 -t 'tcp!*!564' /bin/exportfs -r /root &

cat >/tmp/plan9.ini << EOF
user=$user
fs=$ip
auth=$ip
mouseport=ps2
nobootprompt=tcp

EOF

vmx -v 800x600 -n ether0 -m /tmp/plan9.ini /amd64/9pc64
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 11:05 AM Kurt H Maier  wrote:
>
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote:
> > is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo 
> > talking to a framebuffer maybe?
> >
> > ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9...
> >
> > -Steve
>
>
> This is documented in the linked fqa section.
>
> http://fqa.9front.org/openbsdvmweb.png
>
> Note:  when sl said performance is terrible, this is what he was talking
> about.
>
> khm
>



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Dave MacFarlane
I've always found performance to be terrible for OpenBSD even on
physical hardware, so I can't really hold that against vmx..

- Dave



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Ori Bernstein
On Mon, 10 Sep 2018 18:57:29 +0100
Steve Simon  wrote:

> is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo 
> talking to a framebuffer maybe?
> 
> ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9...
> 
> -Steve

Chrome and Firefox work, if you're willing to wait as the screen
repaints.

-- 
Ori Bernstein 



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 06:57:29PM +0100, Steve Simon wrote:
> is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo 
> talking to a framebuffer maybe?
> 
> ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9...
> 
> -Steve


This is documented in the linked fqa section.

http://fqa.9front.org/openbsdvmweb.png

Note:  when sl said performance is terrible, this is what he was talking
about.

khm



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread hiro
yes to all 4



Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Steve Simon
is there any graphics support? would it be usable to run a browser? dillo 
talking to a framebuffer maybe?

ever hopefull of getting modern browser support in plan9...

-Steve




> On 10 Sep 2018, at 6:03 pm, G B  wrote:
> 
> Thank you.
> 
> On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian 
>  wrote:
> 
> 
> Very cool!
> 
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM  wrote:
> vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:
> 
> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1
> 
> script i use to run openbsd:
> 
> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd
> 
> in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
> is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
> installation.
> 
> note: performance is terrible.
> 
> sl
> 
> 


Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread G B
 Thank you.
On Monday, September 10, 2018, 12:02:23 PM CDT, Skip Tavakkolian 
 wrote:  
 
 Very cool!
On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM  wrote:

vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:

        http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

        http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl



  

Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread Skip Tavakkolian
Very cool!

On Mon, Sep 10, 2018 at 8:02 AM  wrote:

> vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:
>
> http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1
>
> script i use to run openbsd:
>
> http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd
>
> in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
> is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
> installation.
>
> note: performance is terrible.
>
> sl
>
>
>


Re: [9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread sl
vmx(1) documentation in the dash1:

http://fqa.9front.org/fqa8.html#8.7.5.1

script i use to run openbsd:

http://plan9.stanleylieber.com/rc/openbsd

in my setup opensd is the first hard drive and 9front
is the second. vmx(1) runs openbsd from the hard drive
installation.

note: performance is terrible.

sl




[9fans] 9front VMX

2018-09-10 Thread G B
I'm interested in trying to run OpenBSD using VMX on 9front.  Can someone give 
me an example of how I'd set this up and run it?
% vmx -M 128 -n ether0 bsd
Where "bsd" is the OpenBSD 6.2 kernel.  I must be missing more to it than just 
this?  Thanks for any help.