[abcusers] A4/letter in abc2ps

2000-10-11 Thread Atte André Jensen

Hello

As it is now my abc2ps seems to produce postscript files in letter
size. I converted one into pdf and printed it from a mac at school, but
the printout was truncated at the top on the second page of the songs with
more than one page. Obviously since I'm in Europe the format the mac
expected is A4. How do I get abc2ps to make postscript output in A4 size
and if I put pdf-files on my sitespace, which size should they be then???

I'm running Michaels abc2ps with this format file:

   scale 0.60
   titlefont Times-Italic-Bold 24
   subtitlefont Times-Italic-Bold 15
   titleleft false
   subtitleleft false
   indexfont Arial 10
   composerfont Courier-Italic 10
   composerspace 20
   partsfont Times-Italic-Bold 20 box
   partsspace 0.0cm
   vocalfont Arial 13
   musicspace0.0cm
   gchordfont Arial-Italic-Bold 18
   tempofont Courier-Italic 10
   parskipfac 1.0
   staffwidth 18.4cm
   staffsep   55
   maxshrink  0.60
   stretchstaff true
   stretchlast true
   lineskipfac 1.1
   parskipfac 0
   textspace 0.2cm
   textfont Courier-Italic 10 box

-- 
Atte André Jensen

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Re: [abcusers] A4/letter in abc2ps

2000-10-11 Thread Phil Taylor

Atte André Jensen wrote:
As it is now my abc2ps seems to produce postscript files in letter
size. I converted one into pdf and printed it from a mac at school, but
the printout was truncated at the top on the second page of the songs with
more than one page. Obviously since I'm in Europe the format the mac
expected is A4. How do I get abc2ps to make postscript output in A4 size
and if I put pdf-files on my sitespace, which size should they be then???


I don't really understand why it would be truncated at the top.  US
Letter size is shorter and wider than A4, so I would expect the right
margin to be truncated.

If you are printing pdf files from Acrobat, you can use the Page Setyp...
command from the File menu to change the magnification (If you send the
postscript directly to the printer you don't get that option.)  You also
have the choice of A4 or A4 small (the first uses narrower margins).

Can you see the truncation on the screen, or is it purely a printing problem?

Phil Taylor


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Re: [abcusers] Re: O'Neill errors

2000-10-11 Thread jc



|  What sort of a scale would use  ^G_A^B?
|
| _E^F_B or _E^F_B^C definitely make sense (tonic is D).


Yup; I use both of those.  However,  the  first  corresponds  to  two
different scales that are common in the Balkans, with tonics C and D.
The second I only know with a tonic of D, though I  wouldn't  be  too
surprised to hear that it could also have A as the tonic.  That seems
like a reasonable scale to me; I just don't happen to know any  music
that uses it.

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Re: [abcusers] Modes (was O'Neill errors)

2000-10-11 Thread Atte André Jensen

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Wow! Pretty heavy signiture file you have yourself there!
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[abcusers] abc and printed music

2000-10-11 Thread Robert Bley-Vroman

David Barnert wrote:

I believe abc should be a representation of
printed music notation

The alternative view, which has been widely supported on this list, is
something like this:

"ABC is a system for expressing musical information in human-readable ascii
text."

(I've forgotten whose formulation this one originally was; there were many
alternative ones flying about a while back. This is the one I've been using
most.)

Still,  it is certainly true that part of what makes abc such a good system
of  "expressing musical information in human-readable ascii text" is that
it has obvious resemblances to staff notation, even to the extent that
certain things in abc are obvious imitations of the outward appearance of
printed music notation (bar-lines, for example).

So, rather than limiting ourselves to that which can be expressed in
printed music, we should take advantage of resemblances to printed music
when it improves the central goal of human-readable ascii music notation.
As David Barnert said in an earlier post:

I'd hate for abc to get too far afield [from printed music]

I certainly agree.

In the case of key signatures, if the transcriber's intent is to indicate
that something is in the key of G, the notation K: G is actually more
perspicuous and informative than K: ^f. On the other hand, if the
transcriber's intention is only to say "in the tune which follows, F is to
be interpreted as F-sharp", then the notation K: ^f is clearly preferable.
(As has been pointed out, in most of the "core" repertory which abc has
usually be used for, what one is usually trying to say is that it's in the
key of G, not just that all the F's should be interpreted as sharped.)

Since the notation K:G is more informative and more perspicuous than K:^f,
therefore (following the Gricean maxims), K:^f should be used just for
cases in which K:G is not justified. Of course, no abc standard can or
should try to enforce such a principle (just as no grammar of a natural
language incorporates Gricean implicatures directly).

Robert Bley-Vroman
Honolulu


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[abcusers] Re: abcusers-digest V1 #364

2000-10-11 Thread Derek Lane-Smith

At 09:26 AM 10/11/00 -0700, Bryan wrote:
One final point I have to make.  I am worried by phrases like "if we permit" 
and "should force people" and comparisons with speeding laws (For goodness 
sake!  Nobody's going to die here.)  Are WE (who like it the way it is) 
becoming WE (who must be obeyed)?  Couldn't we borrow a few words from
modern 
business speak like enable, provide, facilitate?

I honestly can't see why this whole discussion is such a great problem.
Why not simply have two separate key signature codes, one, K:, that can
contain the key/mode, and the other, k: (say), that can contain the key
signature.  That way you maintain compatibility, nearly, with old abc
files, but have full scope for exercising personal preference.  Any tune
can have either or both fields filled.

Incidentally, I would like to see a 'class' code, that would include one or
more characters, each of which would represent a class of music to which
the tune belongs.  Then, if there is a large archive of tunes, you can pipe
it through a filter to extract all those in the archive that belong to the
class of music of interest to you, whether you know the names of the
individual tunes in the class or not.

Derek
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