Re: [abcusers] Csardas
| Far to few tunes posted at abcusers recently. | | Here's an old classic for beginner violinists. Enjoy :) Thanks, Frank. I found only three serious problems with it. ;-) First, could you repost it without all the line wrappings? It came out readable but spread out thinly over three pages with abc2ps, and this may have also contributed to some confusion on the part of abc2midi. Second, there's a missing |: in voice 2. This didn't confuse abc2ps, but abc2midi produced some rather, uh, "interesting" harmonies with its interpretation of where to repeat from. Inserting the |: makes the harmonies work correctly. Omitting start-of-repeat is, of course, quite common in abc transcriptions, as it's also common in a lot of printed music. This is a frequent problem for people who use abc players to learn tunes by ear. Third, there was a rather un-Hungarian coda at the end in voice 2: | V:2 | BB2B (G2G2)|BGB2 BGB2|cd ec BGB2|z A z E z F z F|GD2B, G,4|] | To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: |http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html The upbows on the b's (in the subscribe/unsubscribe) don't seem to me to be the correct bowing for the coda. The I-V-I at the end is normal for a Hungarian ending, of course, but I'd expect it to be GdG rather than cg.c (which is all that abc2ps used from tullochgorm.com ;-). Maybe I should add the posted version, unocrrected, to my list of test files. I'd guess that something (Barfly?) played this correctly despite these problems, but other programs won't. Though I suppose the line wrapping and coda weren't in the original. Ain't email wonderful? To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Csardas
Frank Nordberg wrote: [snip] V:2 BB2B (G2G2)|BGB2 BGB2|cd ec BGB2|z A z E z F z F|GD2B, G,4|] To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html What's going on here? I added a lot of blank lines after the ABC when I sent this e mail, and the abcusers footer still messes it up! Frank Nordberg --- To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Csardas
| Thanks, Frank. I found only three serious problems with it. ;-) | | Actually a corrected version was already in my outbox. I missed the | missing |: though. | | So, here it is - with all the corrections suggested by John, a slightly | increased tempo and midi program fields for BarFly users. Yeah, but you still have the weird "coda" at the end! That's a tricky one. It appears that some mailing-list software, including this one, trims away all trailing blank lines and then appends its signature. So the mailing-list signature comes out attached to the last paragraph of the message, and in this case, ends up being interpreted as part of the music. It's not hard to delete, of course. But I've seen a fair number of ABC files that someone obviously got from a mailing-list message, because there's something similar at the end. I've gotten a few email messages from users of my abc tune finder that comment on this. It's one of several reasons for arguing for an explicit end-of-tune marker. I suppose it would be difficult to add this to abc now, though. And, considering how many people can't be bothered to type "X:1" at the start of their tunes, it's unlikely we could get it used even if we did decree it part of the language. Maybe we need to start telling people to always add a bit of non-abc text after any tune they post to a list, so that such signatures will be added to that text and not to the tune. I'd bet that whoever thought of the idea of stripping off trailing blank lines thought s/he was doing something pretty clever. It probably saves 2 or 3 bytes of network bandwidth in every message. And then the users have to spend their own time discovering and editing the subtle damage that this does to messages like these. As a test, I'll add a few blank lines after this: To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Trailing blank lines (was: Csardas)
John Chambers wrote: [snip] As a test, I'll add a few blank lines after this: To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html I think this definitely is an abcusers issue. After all one of the most important functions of ABC is e-mailing music. So, can anyone explain what happens - and more important where in the chain it happens? John's posting seems to work fine, but mine is always missing the blank lines. Hmmm Frank Nordberg --- To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
