Re: [abcusers] gracenotes

2001-02-10 Thread NICKL Kroly

Jack Campin wrote:

 Representing Bartok's material in ABC would require substantial extensions
 (different lengths of gracenote, glissandi) as well as (the present topic)
 implementing already-standard features correctly.

 BarFly manages to play and print the following as a recognizable tune,
 with one glitch and ignoring the different lengths of gracenote.  This
 was presumably transcribed off a field recording - Bartok would have
 wanted a midi-to-ABC tool if he was working today.

 X:1
 T:A virgok vetlkedse
 B:Bartk/Kodly, Transylvanian Hungarian Folksongs
 N:The 8-bit characters are deliberate.  I think it's just plain
 N:offensive to insist that speakers of languages other than English
 N:should go through hoops learning TeX character codes so they can
 N:use their own alphabet, and the TeX crap needs to be deep-sixed
 N:as soon as possible.
 Z:Jack Campin 2001 (from a paper copy I made 20 years ago)
 M:4/4
 %M:(4/4) % what they actually wrote, meaning it isn't strict
 L:1/4
 Q:1/4=86
 %Q:Lento, poco rubato 1/4=84-88 % what they actually wrote
 N:"I" is BarFly's inverted-fermata sign, "H" is a fermata
 N:The very long lines are to align the beats right in the source
 N:Things I couldn't get into the ABC:
 N: 1. the B gracenote in bar 1 and G gracenote in bar 4 have crossed flags
 N: 2. I *think* the fermata and inverted fermata are meant, but the printed
 N:signs don't have dots.
 K:G mixolydian
 (D/| G) B({B}d2-{(3ded})  |  (d{c/B/}) (c{B/A/}) 
(B2{c/B/A/}.B/) z/ z|
   ({B/c/}d2{c/B})c (B{c/B/}{A/B/})|  (c{B/A/}) (B{G})HA2 
  Hz|
  A B  ({A/B/}c2{d/c/B/})  |   ({B}d2{c/B}) ({A/}B/) 
(HG3/{A/B/})z|
   ({A/B/}c{B/A/}) (B{A/G}) (IA2{G})   |({G/A/}B{A/G/}) JAHG2 
   |]

 Is there any more Hungarian stuff like this in ABC already?


Yes, there are a few Hungarian abc series already, but -besides your
transcription above- I have not
seen among them such grace notes-decorated tunes, like those in the
original Hungarian folk song
collections of Bartk en Kodly.

Rgds.

Kroly Nickl
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Re: [abcusers] Re: developers/user

2001-02-10 Thread Frank Nordberg



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 John Chambers:
 
  Some years ago I saw a work which included a descending viola
  line with a diminuendo, which ended on a low Bb marked "pensando".
  That's about how a violist would have to play it, of course.
 
 Laurie Griffiths:
 
  Yes, that was one of the works of P.D.Q. Bach, discovered by
  Peter Shickeley (not sure of his spelling).
 
 Schickele. He has another one called "Wachet Arf" ("Let Sleeping Dogs
 Lie") for dog ("houndentenor," PS in a costume) and orchestra. At one
 point the first violin plays an ascending scale that goes so high it
 becomes inaudible, but the dog wakes up with a start.

I came across the music to P. D. Q. Bach's trio sonata for two flutes,
tuba and tambourin once, but so far I haven't managed to find anybody
who wants to play it with me :(

But, just to set records staight. That viola stunt was originally
introduced by Hoffnung in a parody of modern music. I don't know if
Schickele used it in some P. D. Q. composition, but if he did, he stole
it from Hoffnung.


Frank Nordberg


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