Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread John Chambers
Stephen Kellett writes:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoffrey Loker
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
|  If left up to Sonny Bono and the RIAA there would be no
|  public domain.
|
| Excellent rant about copyright
|
| ...and of course you have to remember that this comes from the Land of
| the free.

Yeah,  but  the  rest  of  the  world   should   consider   that   the   Bush
administration's policies have been fairly clearly stated:

1.  American law is the only significant law; all the rest is irrelevant.

2. American citizens (especially US government employees) are exempt from the
law  outside  US territory.  This especially applies to such quaint relics as
the Geneva Conventions.

Not that this approach is at all unusual for a superpower. I seem to recall
reading in some history books about a few other governments that have had the
same policies at various times in the past.

Also, recall that one of George Bush's campaign slogans was that he wanted to
be  America's  CEO.   He thinks the US government (and therefore the entire
world) should be run as a business.  This means, of course,  that  it  exists
solely  for  the  financial  benefit  of its officers and shareholders, where
shareholder is another term for campaign contributor.  The rest of us are
at best employees; if not, we're irrelevant.

One of the goals of the big entertainment corporations such as the  RIAA  and
MPAA  is  that  everything  will  be covered by copyright, and of course most
copyrights will be held by the big corporations. This includes all that silly
folk  stuff, too, at least all of it that has ever been published anywhere.
So if any of us want to play any folk music, we must first get a license from
the  appropriate  publisher(s).   If  you  haven't  paid  your  license fees,
possession of a fiddle or banjo will be primae-facie evidence  of  intent  to
commit a crime.  (And God help anyone caught in possession of an accordion or
bagpipe.  ;-)

To understand what is really intended, google for the terms:
   Girl Scouts copyright ASCAP

(A lot of the readers here probably already know this story.  Note  that  the
Girl  Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so that
the girls can sing songs around a campfire.)

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Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Robinson
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 06:58:14PM +0100, Stephen Kellett wrote:
 In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
 (A lot of the readers here probably already know this story.  Note  that  
 the
 Girl  Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so 
 that
 the girls can sing songs around a campfire.)
 
 My reaction to that is For fucks sake. That is just plain ridiculous. 
 I didn't know about that story. I'm sure if these things were publicized 
 with more coordination there would exemptions for things like this, or 
 better still, better law.

impressed Are you ?


 Mind you, its the exact same mindset that ...

Oi ! NO !!

It was tedious enough, there. Please don't export it.

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Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread Stephen Kellett
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard 
Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
impressed Are you ?
You've lost me.
It was tedious enough, there. Please don't export it.
I know, thats why I left it at that.
Stephen
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Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)

2004-07-23 Thread John Chambers
Stephen Kellett komments:
| In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers
| [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
| (A lot of the readers here probably already know this story.  Note  that  the
| Girl  Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so that
| the girls can sing songs around a campfire.)
|
| My reaction to that is For fucks sake. That is just plain ridiculous.
| I didn't know about that story. I'm sure if these things were publicized
| with more coordination there would exemptions for things like this, or
| better still, better law.

That's partly why I mentioned it.  This is an excellent case to bring
up  in  discussions  of  the  topic.   And  wherever  you  are,  your
politicians should be made aware of this case.  Hit them with the We
don't want it to happen here approach, and maybe they'll listen.  Or
maybe they won't, and it'll be illegal  for  your  children  to  sing
songs  they've heard unless they (or the adults around them) are duly
licensed to sing those songs.  It *has* happened in the US.

| Mind you, its the exact same mindset that Dan Plews was pushing on
| uk.music.folk unless I misunderstand him.

So can you enlighten us on that story?


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RE: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

2004-07-23 Thread Richard Walker
Version 2.7.0 of the ABC music exporting score editor
NoteEdit is available:

Has this been compiled for Windows (98 / XP / etc.)?


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Re: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

2004-07-23 Thread Chuck Boody
Or, has it been tried and are instructions available for Mac OS X?
On Friday, July 23, 2004, at 02:32  PM, Richard Walker wrote:
Version 2.7.0 of the ABC music exporting score editor
NoteEdit is available:
Has this been compiled for Windows (98 / XP / etc.)?
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RE: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

2004-07-23 Thread Joerg Anders
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Richard Walker wrote:

 Version 2.7.0 of the ABC music exporting score editor
 NoteEdit is available:
 
 Has this been compiled for Windows (98 / XP / etc.)?
 

No, unfortunately. But NoteEdit is distributed on many 
so-called Live-CD-Roms. That is a Linux System which starts
from CD-Rom without any installation.

SuSE (www.suse.com) realeased such a CD and also during
the ZKM exhibition this year (http://on1.zkm.de/zkm/e/) a special
Linux audio CD with many audio programs , among them
NoteEdit, was released. 



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Re: [abcusers] Linux: NoteEdit 2.7.0: Triplets/arbitrary text

2004-07-23 Thread Joerg Anders
On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, Chuck Boody wrote:

 Or, has it been tried and are instructions available for Mac OS X?

Because Mac OS X is also a Unix (like) system it is (perhaps)
possible. But I never saw a Mac OS X. Thus, I can't tell too
much about this topic.

My impression is: On Windows there are already some (almost) free
Score Editors, among them Finale NotePad (http://www.finalemusic.com/)
and the NoteWorthy composer (http://www.noteworthysoftware.com).

The problem is: Years ago there were no useable tools for
my preferred OS Linux.
Therefore, I concentrate on Linux. 

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