Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-03 Thread John Chambers


Richard Robinson writes:
|  On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
|  
|   So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin?  (How many volumes  of
|   that were there?)
|  
|  24 :)
|  
|  You know the books have recently been re-published ?

Great! Now I just have to resist the urge to order a copy. Maybe if I
got  them,  I  could  get started on transcribing them, and show that
crazy Norbeck character a thing or two ...  Wait a  minute;  I  think
I'll just stick to sanity for a while.

It sure would be nice to have such things online, though.  Too bad we
can't expect the publishers to ever do it.

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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-03 Thread Frank Nordberg



"Atchley, John" wrote:
 
 Wow!  Are you wearing bifocals yet?!

No, but I think I should.



Bert Van Vreckem wrote:
 
 Dzjeez, what kind of a job do you have that leaves you with so much free
 time?

Just don't tell my boss, OK?



[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Meanwhile,  I  told  my  ABC  bot  about  Henrik's  .../abc/abcusers/
 directory  and  about  the  above  URL,  and the number of ABC titles
 listed for www.musicaviva.com nearly doubled.

Yes, I think there were a lot missing. All my ABC files are linked
directly or with just one intermediate page from
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/index.html

except:

 ...  And the
 oneill-1001-1-500.abc doesn't seem to be pointed to by an link, so it
 would have never been found.

That's right. At the moment it's for the abcusers mail list exclusively.
THat's partly because I hoped for (and got) some valuable feedback from
you before I posted them officially, partly because I was in a bit of
hurry. When I posted my message, I had just five minutes before I had to
go to work, and I haven't been back to my computer until now.

 
 I've wondered about O'Neill's 1001 myself; it's nice to  see  someone
 so masochistic as to take it on.

I wouldn't have started the project at all if I had known how far the
other O'Neill project had gotten.


 But I wonder about putting it all in
 one huge file.  This will lead to a lot of slow downloads for  people
 just looking for a tune or three.

That was one of the things I wanted feedback from the list about. I
think I'll settle for 100 tunes a file.



Søren R Christensen wrote:
 
 Fantastic ! Now I see why you can put in a tune in abc in less than 5
 minutes :-o
 - lots of routine.

Me? I don't even touch-type properly. I don't think a simple folk tune
should take more than four minutes to type into ABC.

Here are three secrets to fast ABC typing:
1. Don't work too fast. It'll only mean more proofreading

2. Make your own shorthand writing. Especially if you use a non-US keyboard
   layout. An extreme example is my Psion 3 with Norwegian/Danish keyboard.
   To get a | on that, I'll have to type ctrl-1-2-4 (!) So I just
use i for
   barlines and do a search-and-replace routine afterwards.
3. Use whatever tools are most suitable. One of my secrets is a
FileMaker Pro
   database that automatically configures the headers, replaces strange
   characters with Tex codes (btw, Phil, when are BarFly going to recognize
   \ss for ß ?) and a few other minor details. Today's ABC project (Vivaldi's
   1st flute concerto) was mainly done in a ClarisWorks spreadsheet.
With all
   the repetitions across bars and parts that seemed to be the best approach.
   Actually I managed the whole concerto in about two hours, even on
the old
   Mac LC I keep in my bedroom.

 
 It gave quite a load of errors, many of which may be from different
 interpretaion af the format (F.ex. it seems like if ABC2PS automatic put
 slurs on grace-notes, and therefore will not accept () around gracenotes,
 resulting in quite a mess of long slurs  in the output).

Hmmm... that's a serious problem that would affect quite a lot of ABC
files on the web, including quite a few from the big O'Neill project I think.

Another problem more specific to this particular collection is abc2ps
seems to try to interpret the BarFly ornament macros as music. It
shouldn't do that - they are clearly identifiable as header fields, so
the program should just ignore them if it doesn't understand them.

Oh well, I guess I'll have to upload an abc2ps safe version as well.
Won't be much of a job, but I don't really like this "dual-version" business.

Frank


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[abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Frank Nordberg

In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:


I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of Ireland"
(known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc

and as midis at:
http://home.online.no/~frnordbe/oneill-1001-midis

(the midi URL is temporary)

I feel I've got the right to brag a bit here. The project I think is
already one of the biggest single-transcriber ABC projects ever done
(and it'll be twice as big when it's finished) and it also means that I
now have more than 1000 of my own ABC transcriptions on my web site.

The midis should be good examples of the possibilities of BarFly's
ornament macros and stress programming, btw. Nos 51-500 are almost plain
BarFly output. Postprocessing is limited to adding reverb an a copyright
note (and removing some superfluous midi commands)

Frank


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RE: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Atchley, John

Wow!  Are you wearing bifocals yet?!

From:  Frank Nordberg 
I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill
project.
The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
Ireland"
(known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc


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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Bert Van Vreckem

Frank Nordberg wrote:
 In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:
 
 I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
 The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
 Ireland" (known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
 http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc

Dzjeez, what kind of a job do you have that leaves you with so much free
time? I can't even find the time to transcribe the odd one hundred tunes
I'd like to put on-line...

--
Bert Van Vreckem
Give a man a fire and he is warm for a day
Set a man on fire and he is warm for the rest of his life
  -- John A. Hrastar.
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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread jc



|  Frank Nordberg wrote:
|   In case somebody wonder why I've been so quiet recently:
|  
|   I've just finished the first half of my own private O'Neill project.
|   The first 500 tunes from Francis O'Neill: "The Dance Music of
|   Ireland" (known as "O'Neill's 1001") is now available as ABC at:
|   http://www.musicaviva.com/abc/oneill-1001-1-500.abc
|
|  Dzjeez, what kind of a job do you have that leaves you with so much free
|  time? I can't even find the time to transcribe the odd one hundred tunes
|  I'd like to put on-line...

Meanwhile,  I  told  my  ABC  bot  about  Henrik's  .../abc/abcusers/
directory  and  about  the  above  URL,  and the number of ABC titles
listed for www.musicaviva.com nearly doubled.  The  reason  that  the
abcusers/  directory hadn't been scanned was that it was too far from
my starting URL.  I've found that it's a good idea to limit the depth
of  Web  searches  to 3 hops, to avoid trying to search the whole Web
for ABC. This isn't very productive; having other people spot new ABC
sites  and  tell  me  about  them  is  far  more  practical.  And the
oneill-1001-1-500.abc doesn't seem to be pointed to by an link, so it
would have never been found.

I've wondered about O'Neill's 1001 myself; it's nice to  see  someone
so masochistic as to take it on. But I wonder about putting it all in
one huge file.  This will lead to a lot of slow downloads for  people
just looking for a tune or three.

So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin?  (How many volumes  of
that were there?)

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Re: [abcusers] O'Neill's 1001

2000-10-02 Thread Richard Robinson

On Mon, 2 Oct 2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So when does the Svenska Laatar Project begin?  (How many volumes  of
 that were there?)

24 :)

You know the books have recently been re-published ?

-- 
Richard Robinson
"The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes" - S. Lem


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