Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
John Chambers writes: Hmmm ... I see conflicting evidence here. If he's an academic, he should be completely at home with no-holds-barred discussions. Things like misattribution of quotes, quoting out of context, and blatant misrepresentation of others' ideas are the order of the day in most of academia, and especially in fields such as archaeology. Perhaps it's because he's still working on a degree. Students tend to be somewhat isolated from this kind of academic banter, in my experience at least (except, of course, from their thesis advisor and from other students). This is partly because potting students is not sporting, and partly because, once they get a paying job, they tend to put on weight and slow down, and become easier targets. Even then, it all depends on the context. Take a typical innocent everyday academic remark, such as I've carefully considered your position, and for reasons A, B, and C, I've decided it has no merit whatsoever. When said in conversation in an office in front of a blackboard, it means, I'm skeptical. Please convince me you are right, after all. A, B, and C may help. However, the same statement published in an academic journal means I want to have a lifelong feud with you. And then there's email, where the sender thinks of it as a conversation, and the receiver thinks of it as a publication... Cheers, John Walsh To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
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Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
On Dec 2, 2004, at 2:24 PM, John Walsh wrote: John Chambers writes: Hmmm ... I see conflicting evidence here. If he's an academic, he should be completely at home with no-holds-barred discussions. Things like misattribution of quotes, quoting out of context, and blatant misrepresentation of others' ideas are the order of the day in most of academia, and especially in fields such as archaeology. Perhaps it's because he's still working on a degree. Students tend to be somewhat isolated from this kind of academic banter, in my experience at least (except, of course, from their thesis advisor and from other students). This is partly because potting students is not sporting, and partly because, once they get a paying job, they tend to put on weight and slow down, and become easier targets. Even then, it all depends on the context. Take a typical innocent everyday academic remark, such as I've carefully considered your position, and for reasons A, B, and C, I've decided it has no merit whatsoever. When said in conversation in an office in front of a blackboard, it means, I'm skeptical. Please convince me you are right, after all. A, B, and C may help. However, the same statement published in an academic journal means I want to have a lifelong feud with you. Forget all of that. Making big bucks in the real world is far more interesting. Allows me to afford my real life, which is playing music. To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
John Chambers wrote: Maybe we should invite him back. I've always sorta enjoyed thediscussions that he started. And it's been quiet around here lately,too quiet ...I think Phil Taylor's response to Don's original enquiry neatly illustrated one of the reasons I haven't been around for a while. He started slagging me off as soon as he saw my name before I'd even said anything. I felt in the past that I had been demonised and anything I said would come under attack. It's difficult to reason with people who don't seem to have wasted much time actually reading what I have said before launching in, often quite offensively. Laura Conrad once attacked me for something Phil had said and then had another go at me when I pointed that out. Wil Macaulay attacked me for (as far as I could understand) something he had said himself. You, John, seemed to have a go at me for things that that Italian chap whose name escapes me said. Wendy B(?) finally seemed to recognise that she was criticising me for something I hadn't said but spoilt it by promptly looking around for something else to hit me with. I think ABC is a brilliant invention and I would love to be able to participate and make a contribution but banging your head against a brick wall really is great when you stop. Apart from that, I've spent the last year studying for an MSc in Computing in Archaeology which has kept me fairly busy. For an idea of what I've been up to have a look at - http://www.bryancreer.com/Castle.html No musical content whatsoever. I've just got Jeff's email. Thank's. I'm touched. (Don't say it.) We'll see. Can people please promise to READ WHAT I ACUALLY SAY before laying into me? Bryan
Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
On Dec 1, 2004, at 11:45 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apart from that, I've spent the last year studying for an MSc in Computing in Archaeology which has kept me fairly busy. For an idea of what I've been up to have a look at - http://www.bryancreer.com/Castle.html You're an academic Bryan? And to think that I respected you up until this point! :-)
Re: [abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
Toby Rider wrote: | | Apart from that, I've spent the last year studying for an MSc in | Computing in Archaeology which has kept me fairly busy. For an idea | of what I've been up to have a look at - | http://www.bryancreer.com/Castle.html | | You're an academic Bryan? And to think that I respected you up until | this point! :-) Hmmm ... I see conflicting evidence here. If he's an academic, he should be completely at home with no-holds-barred discussions. Things like misattribution of quotes, quoting out of context, and blatant misrepresentation of others' ideas are the order of the day in most of academia, and especially in fields such as archaeology. So why would Bryan be bothered when relative amateurs as musicians and software geeks do the same sort of thing? You'd think he wouldn't even notice such things, familiar as he must be with them from his academic life. After getting some Math and Comp Sci degrees, I hung around in academia for a decade working on a couple of interesting projects. Then I decided to join the Real World. It took several years to learn how to deal with the easily-bruised egos in that you find there. I still tend to think of business folks as utter wimps compared to the folks in academia. I've come to appreciate this as one of the reasons that we have such crappy commercial software. It was all developed in an environment where even the most carefully-phrased criticism or warning causes panic and a desire to quiet the complainer, rather than arguing back. They'd never survive a week in academia. ;-) Then there's the way that musicians normally treat each other ... To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
[abcusers] Re: Bryan Creer (?)
Don Whitener wrote - So far as I can tell, Bryan Creer has not posted to this group since early August 2003... Has he dropped out for a while? Thanks for asking Don. It's nice to be missed. Phil Taylor wrote - He does rather tend to drop out for long periods of time, then return to start a mighty argument.On the contrary. I make positive, constructive suggestions and then other people start a mighty argument. Bryan Creer
