Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
Stephen Kellett writes: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Geoffrey Loker | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | If left up to Sonny Bono and the RIAA there would be no | public domain. | | Excellent rant about copyright | | ...and of course you have to remember that this comes from the Land of | the free. Yeah, but the rest of the world should consider that the Bush administration's policies have been fairly clearly stated: 1. American law is the only significant law; all the rest is irrelevant. 2. American citizens (especially US government employees) are exempt from the law outside US territory. This especially applies to such quaint relics as the Geneva Conventions. Not that this approach is at all unusual for a superpower. I seem to recall reading in some history books about a few other governments that have had the same policies at various times in the past. Also, recall that one of George Bush's campaign slogans was that he wanted to be America's CEO. He thinks the US government (and therefore the entire world) should be run as a business. This means, of course, that it exists solely for the financial benefit of its officers and shareholders, where shareholder is another term for campaign contributor. The rest of us are at best employees; if not, we're irrelevant. One of the goals of the big entertainment corporations such as the RIAA and MPAA is that everything will be covered by copyright, and of course most copyrights will be held by the big corporations. This includes all that silly folk stuff, too, at least all of it that has ever been published anywhere. So if any of us want to play any folk music, we must first get a license from the appropriate publisher(s). If you haven't paid your license fees, possession of a fiddle or banjo will be primae-facie evidence of intent to commit a crime. (And God help anyone caught in possession of an accordion or bagpipe. ;-) To understand what is really intended, google for the terms: Girl Scouts copyright ASCAP (A lot of the readers here probably already know this story. Note that the Girl Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so that the girls can sing songs around a campfire.) To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
On Fri, Jul 23, 2004 at 06:58:14PM +0100, Stephen Kellett wrote: In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes (A lot of the readers here probably already know this story. Note that the Girl Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so that the girls can sing songs around a campfire.) My reaction to that is For fucks sake. That is just plain ridiculous. I didn't know about that story. I'm sure if these things were publicized with more coordination there would exemptions for things like this, or better still, better law. impressed Are you ? Mind you, its the exact same mindset that ... Oi ! NO !! It was tedious enough, there. Please don't export it. -- Richard Robinson The whole plan hinged upon the natural curiosity of potatoes - S. Lem To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Richard Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes impressed Are you ? You've lost me. It was tedious enough, there. Please don't export it. I know, thats why I left it at that. Stephen -- Stephen Kellett Object Media Limitedhttp://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk RSI Information:http://www.objmedia.demon.co.uk/rsi.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
Stephen Kellett komments: | In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], John Chambers | [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes | (A lot of the readers here probably already know this story. Note that the | Girl Scouts caved on this one; they are paying an annual license fee so that | the girls can sing songs around a campfire.) | | My reaction to that is For fucks sake. That is just plain ridiculous. | I didn't know about that story. I'm sure if these things were publicized | with more coordination there would exemptions for things like this, or | better still, better law. That's partly why I mentioned it. This is an excellent case to bring up in discussions of the topic. And wherever you are, your politicians should be made aware of this case. Hit them with the We don't want it to happen here approach, and maybe they'll listen. Or maybe they won't, and it'll be illegal for your children to sing songs they've heard unless they (or the adults around them) are duly licensed to sing those songs. It *has* happened in the US. | Mind you, its the exact same mindset that Dan Plews was pushing on | uk.music.folk unless I misunderstand him. So can you enlighten us on that story? To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
This is groovy, but I'm a mite confused by the following... It seems contradictory to my small brain, but prolly is not Could you help me to understand? Perhaps I need to paste earlier rows as well... but these were the ones that troubled me. Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published before 1 January 2003 Life of the author + 70 years or 31 December 2047, whichever is greater Nothing. The soonest the works can enter the public domain is 1 January 2048 Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published after 31 December 2002 Life of the author + 70 years Works of authors who died before 1934. I. Oppenheim wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:00:02 -0400 From: George Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Copyright Issues addressed Pardon the cross-listing but since questions about copyright come up frequently on this list, I thought I'd direct your attention to this: Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Domain.htm A reference chart to help you to determine the copyright status of a given work Best, g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org/ a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ To unsubscribe email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have your message read: unsubscribe jewish-music -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -= To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- || Christian Marcus Cepel | And the wrens have returned [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 | are nesting; In the hollow of 371 Crown Point, Columbia, MO| that oak where his heart once 65203-2202 573.999.2370 | had been; And he lifts up his Computer Support Specialist, Sr. | arms in a blessing; For being University of Missouri-Columbia | born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
RE: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd)
If left up to Sonny Bono and the RIAA there would be no public domain. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christian M. Cepel Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2004 10:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [abcusers] Copyright Issues addressed (fwd) This is groovy, but I'm a mite confused by the following... It seems contradictory to my small brain, but prolly is not Could you help me to understand? Perhaps I need to paste earlier rows as well... but these were the ones that troubled me. Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published before 1 January 2003Life of the author + 70 years or 31 December 2047, whichever is greaterNothing. The soonest the works can enter the public domain is 1 January 2048 Unpublished works created before 1978 that were published after 31 December 2002 Life of the author + 70 years Works of authors who died before 1934. I. Oppenheim wrote: -- Forwarded message -- Date: Thu, 22 Jul 2004 09:00:02 -0400 From: George Robinson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: World music from a Jewish slant [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Copyright Issues addressed Pardon the cross-listing but since questions about copyright come up frequently on this list, I thought I'd direct your attention to this: Copyright Term and the Public Domain in the United States http://www.copyright.cornell.edu/training/Hirtle_Public_Dom ain.htm A reference chart to help you to determine the copyright status of a given work Best, g -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -+ Hosted by Shamash: The Jewish Network, http://shamash.org/ a service of Hebrew College, which offers online courses and an online MA in Jewish Studies, http://hebrewcollege.edu/online/ To unsubscribe email [EMAIL PROTECTED] and have your message read: unsubscribe jewish-music -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -= To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html -- || Christian Marcus Cepel | And the wrens have returned [EMAIL PROTECTED] icq:12384980 | are nesting; In the hollow of 371 Crown Point, Columbia, MO| that oak where his heart once 65203-2202 573.999.2370 | had been; And he lifts up his Computer Support Specialist, Sr. | arms in a blessing; For being University of Missouri-Columbia | born again. --Rich Mullins To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html To subscribe/unsubscribe, point your browser to: http://www.tullochgorm.com/lists.html
