RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
Many thanks, Stuart. No worries and Thank you so much for your service. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field. Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.io www.DavidGoldfield.com -Original Message- From: V Stuart Foote Sent: Wednesday, March 6, 2024 3:45 PM To: 'LibreOffice Accessibility Group' Cc: David Goldfield Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar David, * I have to apologize for the noise. I've misremembered the progression. At 5.1 for bug tdf#92630 and handling on GTK3 we'd tweaked the mbEnableAccel and mbAutoAccel to be consistent cross platform. Which for Windows eliminated the key focus onto main menu 'File' with opening of that menu. See won't fix bug tdf#124048 Instead was behaving like and would only focus to the main menu default of 'File', without opening it. Requiring a cursor key between menus, or one of the main menu mnemonics, was now needed. and behaved the same entered from document canvas. Meaning the should toggle to the main menu, and *confirming your observation* of an issue at 24.2.1.2 release. However, at 24.8 for bug tdf#54169 we've cleaned up the UI response to and to follow the SPI_GETKEYBOARDCUES read from MS Windows 'Ease of Access center' action "Underline access keys when available" or from Win11 accessibility settings "Underline access keys". And with that the focus again matches the focus. Will open a Bugzilla issue against 24.2.1 Stuart -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
David, * I opened a Bugzilla issue tdf#160075 [1] for the regression at 24.2.1, requesting a bibisect. But note that issue seems resolved already with the nightly builds of master against 24.8.0 release. Stuart =-ref-= [1] https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=160075 -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
David, * I have to apologize for the noise. I've misremembered the progression. At 5.1 for bug tdf#92630 and handling on GTK3 we'd tweaked the mbEnableAccel and mbAutoAccel to be consistent cross platform. Which for Windows eliminated the key focus onto main menu 'File' with opening of that menu. See won't fix bug tdf#124048 Instead was behaving like and would only focus to the main menu default of 'File', without opening it. Requiring a cursor key between menus, or one of the main menu mnemonics, was now needed. and behaved the same entered from document canvas. Meaning the should toggle to the main menu, and *confirming your observation* of an issue at 24.2.1.2 release. However, at 24.8 for bug tdf#54169 we've cleaned up the UI response to and to follow the SPI_GETKEYBOARDCUES read from MS Windows 'Ease of Access center' action "Underline access keys when available" or from Win11 accessibility settings "Underline access keys". And with that the focus again matches the focus. Will open a Bugzilla issue against 24.2.1 Stuart -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
Hi, I just checked here on Win 11 Pro and LibreOffice 7.6.x It does actually work. alt opens the menu bar. Greetings, Simon Am 06.03.2024 um 17:38 schrieb David Goldfield: Hi. I'm 99% sure that pressing the alt key by itself did used to move focus to the menu bar. However, I'll check out the master you referenced. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field. Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.io www.DavidGoldfield.com -Original Message- From: V Stuart Foote Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 3:59 PM To: David Goldfield ; LibreOffice Accessibility Group Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar On 2024-03-04 12:58, David Goldfield wrote: Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community ... In previous versions pressing the alt key by itself moved focus to the menu bar. While I can still press key combinations such as alt-f to open the File menu pressing just the alt key does nothing. Pressing f10 moves focus to the menu bar but pressing alt is a bit easier. Is this a bug or was it a deliberate change? I can't locate any options in Settings to revert this behavior. Hi David, Like Jason, but on Windows, key alone has never focused to the main menu with AT enabled. F10, or cycling F6 remains the core keyboard and assistive technology movement. Nothing has changed. Please note thought that for the current master against a 24.8.0 release, handling of the Alt key has been adjusted as for tdf#54169 ( https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54169 ) to follow os/DE settings. Which, with a MS Windows assistive technology tools enabled signal, should toggle enabled with a screen reader in use. You can check a current nightly of master and check for any impact. Stuart -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
RE: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
Hi. I'm 99% sure that pressing the alt key by itself did used to move focus to the menu bar. However, I'll check out the master you referenced. David Goldfield, Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist NVDA Certified Expert Subscribe to the Tech-VI announcement list to receive news, events and information regarding the blindness assistive technology field. Email: tech-vi+subscr...@groups.io www.DavidGoldfield.com -Original Message- From: V Stuart Foote Sent: Monday, March 4, 2024 3:59 PM To: David Goldfield ; LibreOffice Accessibility Group Subject: Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar On 2024-03-04 12:58, David Goldfield wrote: > Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community ... > > In previous versions pressing the alt key by itself moved focus to the > menu bar. While I can still press key combinations such as alt-f to > open the File menu pressing just the alt key does nothing. Pressing > f10 moves focus to the menu bar but pressing alt is a bit easier. Is > this a bug or was it a deliberate change? I can't locate any options > in Settings to revert this behavior. > Hi David, Like Jason, but on Windows, key alone has never focused to the main menu with AT enabled. F10, or cycling F6 remains the core keyboard and assistive technology movement. Nothing has changed. Please note thought that for the current master against a 24.8.0 release, handling of the Alt key has been adjusted as for tdf#54169 ( https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54169 ) to follow os/DE settings. Which, with a MS Windows assistive technology tools enabled signal, should toggle enabled with a screen reader in use. You can check a current nightly of master and check for any impact. Stuart -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
On 2024-03-04 12:58, David Goldfield wrote: Version: 24.2.1.2 (X86_64) / LibreOffice Community ... In previous versions pressing the alt key by itself moved focus to the menu bar. While I can still press key combinations such as alt-f to open the File menu pressing just the alt key does nothing. Pressing f10 moves focus to the menu bar but pressing alt is a bit easier. Is this a bug or was it a deliberate change? I can't locate any options in Settings to revert this behavior. Hi David, Like Jason, but on Windows, key alone has never focused to the main menu with AT enabled. F10, or cycling F6 remains the core keyboard and assistive technology movement. Nothing has changed. Please note thought that for the current master against a 24.8.0 release, handling of the Alt key has been adjusted as for tdf#54169 ( https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=54169 ) to follow os/DE settings. Which, with a MS Windows assistive technology tools enabled signal, should toggle enabled with a screen reader in use. You can check a current nightly of master and check for any impact. Stuart -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
Re: [libreoffice-accessibility] LibreOffice Writer 24.2.1.2 for Windows: Pressing the Alt Key by Itself No Longer Moves Focus to the Menu Bar
On 4/3/24 12:58, David Goldfield wrote: In previous versions pressing the alt key by itself moved focus to the menu bar. While I can still press key combinations such as alt-f to open the File menu pressing just the alt key does nothing. Pressing f10 moves focus to the menu bar but pressing alt is a bit easier. Interestingly, pressing Alt alone never moved focus in any version of LibreOffice that I can recall, under Linux. Thus it seems to be a Windows-specific issue. F10 always worked though, and still does. -- To unsubscribe e-mail to: accessibility+unsubscr...@global.libreoffice.org Problems? https://www.libreoffice.org/get-help/mailing-lists/how-to-unsubscribe/ Posting guidelines + more: https://wiki.documentfoundation.org/Netiquette List archive: https://listarchives.libreoffice.org/global/accessibility/ Privacy Policy: https://www.documentfoundation.org/privacy
