Re: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD

2002-11-10 Thread Graham Turner
Jimmy, don't know if this was an open invite - but I would certaintly be a
glad recipient of said comparison.

Graham Turner

- Original Message -
From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


 I did a functionality comparison between BMC Patrol, Multicenter and HP
 OpenView OVO7 for a customer a couple of months ago, let me know (by
 private e-mail) if you want it.

 Also, see www.netiq.com

 Regards,
 /Jimmy
 --
 Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Whistler Tech Beta Program Member
 Windows Pre-release Community Member




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mike Baudino
 Sent: den 9 november 2002 15:52
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


 All,

 I've been asked recently to come up with monitoring requirements for an
 upcoming AD deployment to roughly 120 offices, all of which will be
 individual sites.  I don't have experience (yet) with AD this size.
 Vendor whitepapers are little more than thinly disguised salespitches.
 Those companies that offer monitoring products for AD state that it's
 essential and, oh, by the way, we happen to have just the product for
 you.  I'm not really able to get a clear picture of how critical it is
 to actively monitor AD and how granular you need to be.

 One company I spoke with said that it's sufficient to monitor DNS and
 DHCP and they will tell you if anything's up.  I don't buy that, other
 than I believe that availability of DNS and verifying that dynamic
 update is working and that the DC's are registering, etc.  Another
 company states that you need very granular monitoring complete with
 custom scripts, automated tasks, and alerts.  Microsoft says that all we
 need is MOM.

 Well, MOM's out as our mandate is to have a monitoring product that is
 cross platform (we also have various flavors of UNIX and some big iron).
 Our current product is from the first company I mentioned in the
 previous paragraph.

 I believe the truth is somewhere between the two companies.  I'm looking
 for suggestions based on practical experience though.  Anyone want to
 share?


 Thanks,
 MIke



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RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD

2002-11-10 Thread Jimmy Andersson
I'll send it to you :)

Regards,
/Jimmy
--
Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Whistler Tech Beta Program Member
Windows Pre-release Community Member




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
Sent: den 10 november 2002 16:30
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


Jimmy, don't know if this was an open invite - but I would certaintly be
a glad recipient of said comparison.

Graham Turner

- Original Message -
From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 09, 2002 3:47 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


 I did a functionality comparison between BMC Patrol, Multicenter and 
 HP OpenView OVO7 for a customer a couple of months ago, let me know 
 (by private e-mail) if you want it.

 Also, see www.netiq.com

 Regards,
 /Jimmy
 --
 Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Whistler Tech Beta Program Member
 Windows Pre-release Community Member




 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:ActiveDir-owner;mail.activedir.org] On Behalf Of Mike Baudino
 Sent: den 9 november 2002 15:52
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Monitoring AD


 All,

 I've been asked recently to come up with monitoring requirements for 
 an upcoming AD deployment to roughly 120 offices, all of which will be

 individual sites.  I don't have experience (yet) with AD this size. 
 Vendor whitepapers are little more than thinly disguised salespitches.

 Those companies that offer monitoring products for AD state that it's 
 essential and, oh, by the way, we happen to have just the product for 
 you.  I'm not really able to get a clear picture of how critical it is

 to actively monitor AD and how granular you need to be.

 One company I spoke with said that it's sufficient to monitor DNS and 
 DHCP and they will tell you if anything's up.  I don't buy that, other

 than I believe that availability of DNS and verifying that dynamic 
 update is working and that the DC's are registering, etc.  Another 
 company states that you need very granular monitoring complete with 
 custom scripts, automated tasks, and alerts.  Microsoft says that all 
 we need is MOM.

 Well, MOM's out as our mandate is to have a monitoring product that is

 cross platform (we also have various flavors of UNIX and some big 
 iron). Our current product is from the first company I mentioned in 
 the previous paragraph.

 I believe the truth is somewhere between the two companies.  I'm 
 looking for suggestions based on practical experience though.  Anyone 
 want to share?


 Thanks,
 MIke



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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Receiving Posts out of order

2002-11-10 Thread Tony Murray



It 
appears to be a "feature" of the iMail list software. I've noticed it on 
other lists as well as this one. 

Actually, I wouldn't mind moving to different list software anyway. 
iMail lacks the "no-mail" feature that Lyris and others offer which allows you 
to post without getting any list mail. This feature is useful in 
conjunction with Exchange public folder subcriptions. I'll have a chat 
with my service provider.

In the 
meantime, I'll halve your monthly list subscription fee :-)

Tony 
[list owner]

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sullivan, 
KevinSent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:20 PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Receiving Posts 
out of order

  
  Sorry for the way off topic but I 
  seem to receive some responses before I get the original posts. Hours apart. 
  Also sometimes when I post I dont see the post for a few hours. Is anyone 
  else experiencing this and any suggestions?
  
  Thanks
  
  Sent at 1:20 PM 
  11/8/02
  


RE: [ActiveDir] Pruning printers from AD

2002-11-10 Thread Tony Murray
By default they will appear as objects under the parent print server object.
For example, if you click the print server in the left hand pane you should
see the printQueue object in the right hand pane.   Simply right-click the
printQueue object and select delete and it will be removed from Active
Directory.

Tony

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Lev Zdenk
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 5:06 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Pruning printers from AD


I have tried to find printers object by ADSI edit but without success. Where
it is located ?
Thx
Z.


-Original Message-
From: Tony Murray [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, November 08, 2002 4:57 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Pruning printers from AD


Well, you can do it manually, but removing the old printQueue objects using
ADSIEdit or LDP.

How long have you waited?  The pruning service is governed by Group Policy
settings.  The default setting is that the service will try to check the
printer availability (on the print server) three times at 8 hour intervals,
after which it removes the printer objects from AD.

Check your GPO settings and also check the Spoolsv.exe process is running on
at least one DC in your domain.

Tony

-- Original Message --
From: =?iso-8859-2?Q?Lev_Zden=ECk?= [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, 8 Nov 2002 16:50:53 +0100

Hello evr,
I had to reinstall my print server (W2K) which was a member server of my AD
domain. After that I installed all my printers to the reinstalled print
server. Now when I am searching printers in AD there are old and new one.
How Can I prune those old printers from AD
THX
ZL



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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Receiving Posts out of order

2002-11-10 Thread Rick Kingslan
Title: Message



Cool! I'll invest the savings back into the moneys that MVP charges 
me to be a member!

:P

Rick Kingslan MCSE, MCSA, MCTMicrosoft MVP - Active 
DirectoryAssociate ExpertExpert Zone - 
www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Tony MurraySent: Sunday, November 10, 2002 1:36 
  PMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] OT: Receiving Posts out of order
  It 
  appears to be a "feature" of the iMail list software. I've noticed it on 
  other lists as well as this one. 
  
  Actually, I wouldn't mind moving to different list software 
  anyway. iMail lacks the "no-mail" feature that Lyris and others offer 
  which allows you to post without getting any list mail. This feature is 
  useful in conjunction with Exchange public folder subcriptions. I'll 
  have a chat with my service provider.
  
  In 
  the meantime, I'll halve your monthly list subscription fee 
  :-)
  
  Tony 
  [list owner]
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Sullivan, 
  KevinSent: Friday, November 08, 2002 7:20 PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Receiving 
  Posts out of order
  

Sorry for the way off topic but 
I seem to receive some responses before I get the original posts. Hours 
apart. Also sometimes when I post I dont see the post for a few hours. Is 
anyone else experiencing this and any suggestions?

Thanks

Sent at 1:20 PM 
11/8/02