[ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread osman filiz

Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card; now 
i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another pc with 
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives the 
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE. Ýs 
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Jimmy Andersson
Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
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Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now 
i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another pc
with 
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the 
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs 
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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[ActiveDir] NT sp6a does it have ADSI

2003-01-07 Thread Carlos Magalhaes
When you install SP6a on a NT4 machine does that include the ADSI
components?

 

Regards,

Carlos Magalhaes

 



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When you install SP6a on a NT4 machine does that include the
ADSI components?



Regards,

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Pelle, Joe
Title: Message









If we have one
domain - but multiple sites - would it be a best practice to put a
global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site? 



KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994





Thanks! 





Joe Pelle 
Systems Administrator 
Information Technology 
Valassis / Targeted Print 
Media Solutions 
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-Original Message-
From: Rene Chakraborty
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003
8:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab





Got to make that BDC a Global
Catalog Server before you more it over. 

















Sites and Services






Rene



















- Original Message - 





From: Don
Murawski (Lenox) 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Monday,
January 06, 2003 3:08 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
AD Lab











Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had
Global Catalog problems?





I installed aBDCon the
productionnetwork, disconnectit from the production and connected
it to the lab network.





Seize the FSMO roles.





I'm able to join the domain
but,I'm receivingUnable toestablishconnection
with a GC.











Any suggestion would be great.




















RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread osman filiz
i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired the windows but 
still there is  blue screen...






From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100

Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
--
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Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 www.qadvice.com 




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Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now
i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another pc
with
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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RE: [ActiveDir] NT sp6a does it have ADSI

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
Nope. Grab it here.

http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/other/ADSI25/default.asp



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 From: Carlos Magalhaes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:06 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: [ActiveDir] NT sp6a does it have ADSI
 
 
 When you install SP6a on a NT4 machine does that include the ADSI
 components?
 
  
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cerino
Title: Message









If you only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty much tied to doing that. If you have the
resources Id through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.



Jus my 2 cents



-Original
Message-
From: Pelle, Joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003
8:17 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab



If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a
best practice to put a global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site?




KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994





Thanks! 





Joe Pelle 
Systems Administrator 
Information Technology 
Valassis / Targeted Print 
Media Solutions 
35955 Schoolcraft
Rd. Livonia, MI 48150 
Tel
734.632.3753 Fax 734.632.6240 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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-Original Message-
From: Rene Chakraborty
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003
8:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab





Got to make that BDC a Global
Catalog Server before you more it over. 

















Sites and Services






Rene



















- Original Message - 





From: Don Murawski (Lenox) 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Monday, January
06, 2003 3:08 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
AD Lab











Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had
Global Catalog problems?





I installed aBDCon the
productionnetwork, disconnectit from the production and connected
it to the lab network.





Seize the FSMO roles.





I'm able to join the domain
but,I'm receivingUnable toestablishconnection
with a GC.











Any suggestion would be great.




















RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
Yes, it would. In general, single domains, all DC's should also be GC's.

Roger
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Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a 
 best practice to put a global catalog on the domain 
 controller(s) at each site? 
  
 KB:  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994
  
  
 Thanks! 
  
 Joe Pelle 
 Systems Administrator 
 Information Technology 
 Valassis / Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
 35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150 
 Tel 734.632.3753  Fax 734.632.6240 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
 http://www.valassis.com/ 
 This message may have included proprietary or protected 
 information.  This message and the information contained 
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 written consent.
 -Original Message-
 From: Rene Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:41 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
 Got to make that BDC a Global Catalog Server before you more it over. 
  
  
 Sites and Services
 
 Rene
  
  
   - Original Message - 
   From: Don Murawski (Lenox) 
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   To: 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:08 PM
   Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

   Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had Global Catalog problems?
   I installed a BDC on the production network, disconnect 
 it from the production and connected it to the lab network.
   Seize the FSMO roles.
   I'm able to join the domain but, I'm receiving Unable 
 to establish connection with a GC.

   Any suggestion would be great.


 
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RE: [ActiveDir] file replication

2003-01-07 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
The netlogon directory if it is a downlevel client and the sysvol dir if it
is a windows 2000 client

 -Original Message-
From:   Jim Busick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Monday, January 06, 2003 5:34 PM
To: ActiveDirList (E-mail)
Subject:[ActiveDir] file replication

We've just completed an AD upgrade of our PDC and promoted a Win2k member
server to DC (the BDC died during the upgrade). Everything seems to be
working fine but I can't find the $REPL share on the DC that we promoted. In
the NT domain, we set up replication between the PDC and BDC. I guess my
question is, if a user authenticates to the promoted DC, where does it get
its old NT scripts and policies?

Jim Busick
Database Network Analyst MCSE
Santee School District
Santee, CA 92071

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Re: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Jerry Welch
Hi Jimmy -
That certainly looks like a lot of fun - and exciting if you run into any
problems !
When are you and Mark-Allen hitting Credit Suisse ?
Cheers,
Jerry

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From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 7:59 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
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Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 www.qadvice.com 




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now
i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another pc
with
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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RE: [ActiveDir] NT sp6a does it have ADSI

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cerino
No sir - you'd have to pick it up separately from here :
http://www.microsoft.com/ntserver/nts/downloads/other/ADSI25/


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From: Carlos Magalhaes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:06 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: [ActiveDir] NT sp6a does it have ADSI

When you install SP6a on a NT4 machine does that include the ADSI
components?

 

Regards,

Carlos Magalhaes

 



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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Van Donk, Fred
Title: Message



When 
you have one domain there is not really a need for multiple GC's. Every DC
already has a full copy of the AD. GC's play a more important role when you have 
a forest with multiple domains in it.
But 
there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even with one 
domain.

Fred


  
  -Original Message-From: Craig Cerino 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:35 
  AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  If you only have one 
  DC in each site - -- yer pretty much tied to doing 
  that. If you have the resources Id through a second DC in each site - - make 
  that your GC.
  
  Jus my 2 
  cents
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Pelle, Joe 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 
  AMTo: 
  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
  Lab
  
  If 
  we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a best practice to put a 
  global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site? 
  
  
  KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994
  
  
  Thanks! 
  
  
  
  Joe 
  Pelle Systems 
  Administrator Information 
  Technology Valassis 
  / Targeted Print  Media Solutions 35955 
  Schoolcraft Rd. Livonia, MI 48150 
  Tel 
  734.632.3753 Fax 734.632.6240 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  http://www.valassis.com/ 
  
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  message may have included proprietary or protected information. This 
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  -Original 
  Message-From: Rene 
  Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:41 
  PMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD 
  Lab
  
  
  Got to make that BDC a Global 
  Catalog Server before you more it over. 
  
  
  
  
  
  Sites and 
  Services
  
  Rene
  
  
  
  
  

- Original Message - 


From: Don Murawski (Lenox)


To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 


Sent: Monday, 
January 06, 2003 3:08 PM

Subject: 
[ActiveDir] AD Lab



Has anyone setup a AD Lab and 
had Global Catalog problems?

I installed aBDCon 
the productionnetwork, disconnectit from the production and 
connected it to the lab network.

Seize the FSMO 
roles.

I'm able to join the domain 
but,I'm receiving"Unable toestablishconnection with 
a GC.



Any suggestion would be
great.





RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Van Donk, Fred
Title: Message



Agreed


  
  -Original Message-From: Craig Cerino 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 
  10:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  Right - - but if you 
  have more than one DC I recommend making one of the ones without FSMO roles 
  the GC
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Van Donk, 
  Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
  January 07, 2003 
  9:22 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
  Lab
  
  
  When 
  you have one domain there is not really a need for multiple GC's. Every DC 
  already has a full copy of the AD. GC's play a more important role when you 
  have a forest with multiple domains in it.
  
  But 
  there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even with one 
  domain.
  
  
  
  Fred
  
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: Craig 
Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
January 07, 2003 
8:35 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab
If you 
only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty much tied to doing that. If 
you have the resources Id through a second DC in each site - - make that 
your GC.

Jus my 
2 cents

-Original 
Message-From: Pelle, 
Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
January 07, 2003 
8:17 
AMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab

If 
we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a best practice to put 
a global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site? 


KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994


Thanks! 



Joe 
Pelle Systems 
Administrator Information 
Technology Valassis 
/ Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
35955 
Schoolcraft Rd. 
Livonia, 
MI 
48150 
Tel 
734.632.3753 Fax 
734.632.6240 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.valassis.com/

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message may have included proprietary or protected information. This 
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-Original 
Message-From: Rene 
Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 
2003 8:41 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab


Got to make that BDC a Global 
Catalog Server before you more it over. 





Sites and 
Services

Rene





  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: Don Murawski (Lenox) 
  
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, January 06, 
  2003 3:08 
  PM
  
  Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  
  Has anyone setup 
  a AD Lab and had Global Catalog 
  problems?
  
  I installed 
  aBDCon the productionnetwork, disconnectit from 
  the production and connected it to the lab 
  network.
  
  Seize the FSMO 
  roles.
  
  I'm able to join 
  the domain but,I'm receiving"Unable 
  toestablishconnection with a 
  GC.
  
  
  
  Any suggestion 
  would be great.
  
  
  


RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Mark Jeremy
Title: Message



I 
thought it is the best and safest way not to make the exchange server being part 
of any administration/network roles (FSMO, GC, etc..) aside from being a DC 
member?

  
  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  On Behalf Of Craig CerinoSent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 
  10:21 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  Right - - but if you 
  have more than one DC I recommend making one of the ones without FSMO roles 
  the GC
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: Van Donk, 
  Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
  January 07, 2003 
  9:22 
  AMTo: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
  Lab
  
  
  When 
  you have one domain there is not really a need for multiple GC's. Every DC 
  already has a full copy of the AD. GC's play a more important role when you 
  have a forest with multiple domains in it.
  
  But 
  there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even with one 
  domain.
  
  
  
  Fred
  
  
  
-Original 
Message-From: Craig 
Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
January 07, 2003 
8:35 
AMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab
If you 
only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty much tied to doing that. If 
you have the resources Id through a second DC in each site - - make that 
your GC.

Jus my 
2 cents

-Original 
Message-From: Pelle, 
Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, 
January 07, 2003 
8:17 
AMTo: 
'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab

If 
we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a best practice to put 
a global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site? 


KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994


Thanks! 



Joe 
Pelle Systems 
Administrator Information 
Technology Valassis 
/ Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
35955 
Schoolcraft Rd. 
Livonia, 
MI 
48150 
Tel 
734.632.3753 Fax 
734.632.6240 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
http://www.valassis.com/ 

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-Original 
Message-From: Rene 
Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 06, 
2003 8:41 
PMTo: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD 
Lab


Got to make that BDC a Global 
Catalog Server before you more it over. 





Sites and 
Services

Rene





  
  - Original 
  Message - 
  
  From: Don Murawski (Lenox) 
  
  
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  
  Sent: 
  Monday, January 06, 
  2003 3:08 
  PM
  
  Subject: 
  [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  
  Has anyone setup 
  a AD Lab and had Global Catalog 
  problems?
  
  I installed 
  aBDCon the productionnetwork, disconnectit from 
  the production and connected it to the lab 
  network.
  
  Seize the FSMO 
  roles.
  
  I'm able to join 
  the domain but,I'm receiving"Unable 
  toestablishconnection with a 
  GC.
  
  
  
  Any suggestion 
  would be great.
  
  
  


RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Ayers, Diane
Is this the only DC you have?  If not, why don't you just build a new box and run 
DCpromo to make it a DC with new data replicated from your other DCs?  

Diane

-Original Message-
From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 5:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired the windows but 
still there is  blue screen...






From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100

Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
--
Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 www.qadvice.com 




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now
i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another pc
with
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Hey Roger,

Say more about expanding certain groups... that's one I was unaware of.
And also, don't GC create some additional indices that DCs don't normally
have?

-gil

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:50 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab


That's not entirely correct. All the information is indeed there, but global
catalogs do a few things DCs don't (like expanding certain groups) and
therefore you need GC's.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:22 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 When you have one domain there is not really a need for
 multiple GC's. Every DC already has a full copy of the AD. 
 GC's play a more important role when you have a forest with 
 multiple domains in it.
 But there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even 
 with one domain.
  
 Fred
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:35 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
   
   
   If you only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty
 much tied to doing that. If you have the resources I'd 
 through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.

   Jus my 2 cents

   -Original Message-
   From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 AM
   To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

   If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it
 be a best practice to put a global catalog on the domain 
 controller(s) at each site? 

   KB:
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;
313994
 
 
Thanks! 
 
Joe Pelle 
Systems Administrator 
Information Technology 
Valassis / Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150 
Tel 734.632.3753  Fax 734.632.6240 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
http://www.valassis.com/ 
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From: Rene Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
Got to make that BDC a Global Catalog Server before you more it
over. 
 
 
Sites and Services

Rene
 
 
- Original Message - 
From: Don Murawski (Lenox)
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:08 PM
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had Global Catalog problems?
I installed a BDC on the production network, disconnect it
from the production and connected it to the lab network.
Seize the FSMO roles.
I'm able to join the domain but, I'm receiving Unable to
establish connection with a GC.
 
Any suggestion would be great.
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Van Donk, Fred
Osman,

Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last posting I did on this.
Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty much impossible without 
similar hardware. It's not in a document but PSS told me this.
Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going. Multiple physical sites 
is the way to go. Like I said read the story below:


SNIP
After have been trough this myself in the last couple of weeks and spending a large 
amount of hours on the phone with MS PSS, this is what my conclusion is.

There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.
 
First way:
-Do a system disk and system state backup.
-Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab. (Vendor, raid controller, 
disks, NIC's, video card, memory, firmware levels) If any of the components are not 
the same it will take you a lot of hours to find out why it does not work and which 
component is not working. Even with something as simple as the amount of CPU's.
-Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS Active Directory Disaster 
Recovery document. (Authoritative restore, restore 2 times, one to org location, one 
to alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol share, copy sysvol data, etc. 
etc. etc. 
 
Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if it is not exactly the 
same hardware forget it, only $245 with PSS will get it to work.
 
Second way:
-Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a DC in your production 
first. Let it sync up everything and pull it of the wire. (30 minutes).
-Seize all the FSMO roles.
-Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that are no longer in the AD 
and that will not be restored).
-Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of Sites and Services.
-Reboot
-Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for any errors
-Check the eventlog for any errors.
 
I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to do it, but after talking 
to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that the preferred way is number two. Basically what he 
said is that if you have more that 1 physical site in your company, put a DC there for 
DR, if not, you better have identical HW available when you need to do a DR, they 
cannot guarantee it will work on completely different hardware.
 
Good luck!
Fred
SNIP

-Original Message-
From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired the windows but
still there is  blue screen...






From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100

Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware: 
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
--
Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 www.qadvice.com 




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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another 
pc with
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
What about the other option?

-Build a restore server
-boot into DS recovery mode
-do an authoritative restore of AD

Keep in mind that system state includes system specific information, so
restoring the full system state would by design require the same hardware.

On the other hand, restoring just AD doesn't require identical hardware.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 Osman,
 
 Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last 
 posting I did on this.
 Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty 
 much impossible without similar hardware. It's not in a 
 document but PSS told me this.
 Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going. 
 Multiple physical sites is the way to go. Like I said read 
 the story below:
 
 
 SNIP
 After have been trough this myself in the last couple of 
 weeks and spending a large amount of hours on the phone with 
 MS PSS, this is what my conclusion is.
 
 There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.
  
 First way:
 -Do a system disk and system state backup.
 -Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab. 
 (Vendor, raid controller, disks, NIC's, video card, memory, 
 firmware levels) If any of the components are not the same it 
 will take you a lot of hours to find out why it does not work 
 and which component is not working. Even with something as 
 simple as the amount of CPU's.
 -Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS 
 Active Directory Disaster Recovery document. (Authoritative 
 restore, restore 2 times, one to org location, one to 
 alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol share, 
 copy sysvol data, etc. etc. etc. 
  
 Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if 
 it is not exactly the same hardware forget it, only $245 with 
 PSS will get it to work.
  
 Second way:
 -Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a 
 DC in your production first. Let it sync up everything and 
 pull it of the wire. (30 minutes).
 -Seize all the FSMO roles.
 -Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that 
 are no longer in the AD and that will not be restored).
 -Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of 
 Sites and Services.
 -Reboot
 -Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for any errors
 -Check the eventlog for any errors.
  
 I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to 
 do it, but after talking to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that 
 the preferred way is number two. Basically what he said is 
 that if you have more that 1 physical site in your company, 
 put a DC there for DR, if not, you better have identical HW 
 available when you need to do a DR, they cannot guarantee it 
 will work on completely different hardware.
  
 Good luck!
 Fred
 SNIP
 
 -Original Message-
 From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired 
 the windows but 
 still there is  blue screen...
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100
 
 Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware: 
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;
 
 Regards,
 /Jimmy
 --
 Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
  www.qadvice.com 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 
 Hi,
 I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about 
 RAID Card; 
 now i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory 
 to another 
 pc with
 IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active 
 directory it gives
 the
 blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE 
 BOOT DEVICE.
 Ýs
 it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller 
 platform?
 
 Any comment?
 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
I believe the GCs do a number of additional processes, including changing
the index structure.

From Design Considerations for Windows 2000 Active Directory with Exchange
2000 Server in Mind (in Technet):

Universal Groups also carry some baggage with their usage. Universal group
membership must be determined at the time of logon. Because the scope of
Universal groups is universal, propagation of this group type is done
through the global catalog. Thus, not only does the Universal group itself
replicate globally, but the membership of that group also replicates.
Universal groups with a large membership generate additional replication
overhead the membership of the Universal group changes. 


Taking another angle - in a single domain, why WOULDN'T you make all your
DC's Global Catalogs as well? There's no replication hit for it...


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:46 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 Hey Roger,
 
 Say more about expanding certain groups... that's one I was 
 unaware of.
 And also, don't GC create some additional indices that DCs 
 don't normally
 have?
 
 -gil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:50 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 That's not entirely correct. All the information is indeed 
 there, but global
 catalogs do a few things DCs don't (like expanding certain groups) and
 therefore you need GC's.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:22 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  When you have one domain there is not really a need for
  multiple GC's. Every DC already has a full copy of the AD. 
  GC's play a more important role when you have a forest with 
  multiple domains in it.
  But there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even 
  with one domain.
   
  Fred
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:35 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  If you only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty
  much tied to doing that. If you have the resources I'd 
  through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.
   
  Jus my 2 cents
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
   
  If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it
  be a best practice to put a global catalog on the domain 
  controller(s) at each site? 
   
  KB:
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;
 313994


   Thanks! 

   Joe Pelle 
   Systems Administrator 
   Information Technology 
   Valassis / Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
   35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150 
   Tel 734.632.3753  Fax 734.632.6240 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   http://www.valassis.com/ 
   This message may have included proprietary or protected 
 information.
 This message and the information contained herein are not to 
 be further
 communicated without my express written consent.
   -Original Message-
   From: Rene Chakraborty [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
   Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:41 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

   Got to make that BDC a Global Catalog Server before you more it
 over. 


   Sites and Services
   
   Rene


   - Original Message - 
   From: Don Murawski (Lenox)
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
   Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:08 PM
   Subject: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

   Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had Global 
 Catalog problems?
   I installed a BDC on the production network, 
 disconnect it
 from the production and connected it to the lab network.
   Seize the FSMO roles.
   I'm able to join the domain but, I'm receiving 
 Unable to
 establish connection with a GC.

   Any suggestion would be great.


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 List FAQ: 

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Stuart Kwan
Indexes are defined in the schema, and the schema is the same throughout
the forest.  As far as I know, there are no additional indexes on GCs.

Little known fact:  Active Directory knows to short circuit certain
operations that require a GC if it knows it is in a single domain
environment.  For example, when processing native mode user logons a DC
in a single domain environment knows that it does not need to contact a
GC to expand the user's Universal Group memberships - it just has to
look in the local domain for all group memberships.

The same cannot be said for all AD-aware applications, including things
like Exchange 2000 or more mundane things like the Object Picker on
Windows client machines.  For good reasons, many of these apps don't try
to make special cases for certain environments and always expect a GC to
be present.

For this reason, it is a best practice to make all DCs into GCs in a
single domain environment.  There is virtually no overhead in making a
DC into a GC (in a single domain environment).  The DC simply registers
in DNS as a GC, opens the GC port, and responds appropriately to GC
queries.

Cheers,
Stuart

[This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:20 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

I believe the GCs do a number of additional processes, including
changing
the index structure.

From Design Considerations for Windows 2000 Active Directory with
Exchange
2000 Server in Mind (in Technet):

Universal Groups also carry some baggage with their usage. Universal
group
membership must be determined at the time of logon. Because the scope of
Universal groups is universal, propagation of this group type is done
through the global catalog. Thus, not only does the Universal group
itself
replicate globally, but the membership of that group also replicates.
Universal groups with a large membership generate additional replication
overhead the membership of the Universal group changes. 


Taking another angle - in a single domain, why WOULDN'T you make all
your
DC's Global Catalogs as well? There's no replication hit for it...


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:46 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 Hey Roger,
 
 Say more about expanding certain groups... that's one I was 
 unaware of.
 And also, don't GC create some additional indices that DCs 
 don't normally
 have?
 
 -gil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:50 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 That's not entirely correct. All the information is indeed 
 there, but global
 catalogs do a few things DCs don't (like expanding certain groups) and
 therefore you need GC's.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:22 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  When you have one domain there is not really a need for
  multiple GC's. Every DC already has a full copy of the AD. 
  GC's play a more important role when you have a forest with 
  multiple domains in it.
  But there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even 
  with one domain.
   
  Fred
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:35 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  If you only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty
  much tied to doing that. If you have the resources I'd 
  through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.
   
  Jus my 2 cents
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
   
  If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it
  be a best practice to put a global catalog on the domain 
  controller(s) at each site? 
   
  KB:
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;
 313994


   Thanks! 

   Joe Pelle 
   Systems Administrator 
   Information Technology 
   Valassis / Targeted Print  Media Solutions 
   35955 Schoolcraft Rd.   Livonia, MI  48150 
   Tel 734.632.3753  Fax 734.632.6240 
   [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  
   

RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread osman filiz
It means my active directory, domain died?



From: Van Donk, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:23:21 -0500

Osman,

Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last posting I did 
on this.
Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty much 
impossible without similar hardware. It's not in a document but PSS told me 
this.
Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going. Multiple 
physical sites is the way to go. Like I said read the story below:


SNIP
After have been trough this myself in the last couple of weeks and spending 
a large amount of hours on the phone with MS PSS, this is what my 
conclusion is.

There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.

First way:
-Do a system disk and system state backup.
-Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab. (Vendor, raid 
controller, disks, NIC's, video card, memory, firmware levels) If any of 
the components are not the same it will take you a lot of hours to find out 
why it does not work and which component is not working. Even with 
something as simple as the amount of CPU's.
-Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS Active Directory 
Disaster Recovery document. (Authoritative restore, restore 2 times, one to 
org location, one to alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol 
share, copy sysvol data, etc. etc. etc.

Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if it is not 
exactly the same hardware forget it, only $245 with PSS will get it to 
work.

Second way:
-Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a DC in your 
production first. Let it sync up everything and pull it of the wire. (30 
minutes).
-Seize all the FSMO roles.
-Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that are no longer 
in the AD and that will not be restored).
-Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of Sites and 
Services.
-Reboot
-Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for any errors
-Check the eventlog for any errors.

I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to do it, but 
after talking to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that the preferred way is 
number two. Basically what he said is that if you have more that 1 physical 
site in your company, put a DC there for DR, if not, you better have 
identical HW available when you need to do a DR, they cannot guarantee it 
will work on completely different hardware.

Good luck!
Fred
SNIP

-Original Message-
From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired the windows but
still there is  blue screen...






From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100

Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;

Regards,
/Jimmy
--
Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 www.qadvice.com 




-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware



Hi,
I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about RAID Card;
now i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory to another
pc with
IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active directory it gives
the
blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE BOOT DEVICE.
Ýs
it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller platform?

Any comment?



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[ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread John Shukovsky
Can any help with this error message? I am enterprise\schema admin,
registry setting was made. I am following KB327757

C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1
Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
Logging in as current user using SSPI
Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
Loading entries.
Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
0 entries modified successfully.
An error has occurred in the program






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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Thanks Stuart...

-gil

-Original Message-
From: Stuart Kwan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:33 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab


Indexes are defined in the schema, and the schema is the same throughout the
forest.  As far as I know, there are no additional indexes on GCs.

Little known fact:  Active Directory knows to short circuit certain
operations that require a GC if it knows it is in a single domain
environment.  For example, when processing native mode user logons a DC in a
single domain environment knows that it does not need to contact a GC to
expand the user's Universal Group memberships - it just has to look in the
local domain for all group memberships.

The same cannot be said for all AD-aware applications, including things like
Exchange 2000 or more mundane things like the Object Picker on Windows
client machines.  For good reasons, many of these apps don't try to make
special cases for certain environments and always expect a GC to be present.

For this reason, it is a best practice to make all DCs into GCs in a single
domain environment.  There is virtually no overhead in making a DC into a GC
(in a single domain environment).  The DC simply registers in DNS as a GC,
opens the GC port, and responds appropriately to GC queries.

Cheers,
Stuart

[This posting is provided AS IS with no warranties, and confers no
rights.]


-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:20 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

I believe the GCs do a number of additional processes, including changing
the index structure.

From Design Considerations for Windows 2000 Active Directory with
Exchange
2000 Server in Mind (in Technet):

Universal Groups also carry some baggage with their usage. Universal group
membership must be determined at the time of logon. Because the scope of
Universal groups is universal, propagation of this group type is done
through the global catalog. Thus, not only does the Universal group itself
replicate globally, but the membership of that group also replicates.
Universal groups with a large membership generate additional replication
overhead the membership of the Universal group changes. 


Taking another angle - in a single domain, why WOULDN'T you make all your
DC's Global Catalogs as well? There's no replication hit for it...


--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Gil Kirkpatrick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:46 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 Hey Roger,
 
 Say more about expanding certain groups... that's one I was
 unaware of.
 And also, don't GC create some additional indices that DCs 
 don't normally
 have?
 
 -gil
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:50 AM
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
 
 
 That's not entirely correct. All the information is indeed
 there, but global
 catalogs do a few things DCs don't (like expanding certain groups) and
 therefore you need GC's.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 9:22 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  When you have one domain there is not really a need for multiple 
  GC's. Every DC already has a full copy of the AD. GC's play a more 
  important role when you have a forest with multiple domains in it.
  But there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even 
  with one domain.
   
  Fred
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:35 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
  
  
  If you only have one DC in each site - -- yer pretty
  much tied to doing that. If you have the resources I'd
  through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.
   
  Jus my 2 cents
   
  -Original Message-
  From: Pelle, Joe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:17 AM
  To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab
   
  If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it
  be a best practice to put a global catalog on the domain
  controller(s) at each site? 
   
  KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;
 313994


   Thanks!

   Joe Pelle 
   Systems Administrator 
   Information Technology 
   Valassis / Targeted Print 

RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread osman filiz
How?Is there a way to restore only active directory?I know that system state 
is restored for all.






From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:57:37 -0500

What about the other option?

-Build a restore server
-boot into DS recovery mode
-do an authoritative restore of AD

Keep in mind that system state includes system specific information, so
restoring the full system state would by design require the same hardware.

On the other hand, restoring just AD doesn't require identical hardware.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:23 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


 Osman,

 Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last
 posting I did on this.
 Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty
 much impossible without similar hardware. It's not in a
 document but PSS told me this.
 Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going.
 Multiple physical sites is the way to go. Like I said read
 the story below:


 SNIP
 After have been trough this myself in the last couple of
 weeks and spending a large amount of hours on the phone with
 MS PSS, this is what my conclusion is.

 There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.

 First way:
 -Do a system disk and system state backup.
 -Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab.
 (Vendor, raid controller, disks, NIC's, video card, memory,
 firmware levels) If any of the components are not the same it
 will take you a lot of hours to find out why it does not work
 and which component is not working. Even with something as
 simple as the amount of CPU's.
 -Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS
 Active Directory Disaster Recovery document. (Authoritative
 restore, restore 2 times, one to org location, one to
 alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol share,
 copy sysvol data, etc. etc. etc.

 Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if
 it is not exactly the same hardware forget it, only $245 with
 PSS will get it to work.

 Second way:
 -Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a
 DC in your production first. Let it sync up everything and
 pull it of the wire. (30 minutes).
 -Seize all the FSMO roles.
 -Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that
 are no longer in the AD and that will not be restored).
 -Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of
 Sites and Services.
 -Reboot
 -Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for any errors
 -Check the eventlog for any errors.

 I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to
 do it, but after talking to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that
 the preferred way is number two. Basically what he said is
 that if you have more that 1 physical site in your company,
 put a DC there for DR, if not, you better have identical HW
 available when you need to do a DR, they cannot guarantee it
 will work on completely different hardware.

 Good luck!
 Fred
 SNIP

 -Original Message-
 From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware


 i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired
 the windows but
 still there is  blue screen...






 From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100
 
 Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;
 
 Regards,
 /Jimmy
 --
 Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
  www.qadvice.com 
 
 
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of osman filiz
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:30 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 
 Hi,
 I have one domain controller that has hardware problem about
 RAID Card;
 now i cannot fix it and i want to restore active directory
 to another
 pc with
 IDE controller.But i can't...After restoring active
 directory it gives
 the
 blue screen message while startup : 0x007B INACCESSIBLE
 BOOT DEVICE.
 Ýs
 it possible to restore AD to dissimilar hard disk controller
 platform?
 
 Any comment?
 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
Post the first 4 lines of your exschema.ldf file and let's see.

The error looks pretty clear to me.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange
 
 
 Can any help with this error message? I am enterprise\schema admin,
 registry setting was made. I am following KB327757
 
 C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1
 Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
 Logging in as current user using SSPI
 Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
 Loading entries.
 Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
 The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
 0 entries modified successfully.
 An error has occurred in the program
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
What is the file you are importing, it is saying that the error in on line
3?

 -Original Message-
From:   John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent:   Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:[ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

  File: Card for John Shukovsky  Can any help with this error message? I
am enterprise\schema admin,
registry setting was made. I am following KB327757

C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1
Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
Logging in as current user using SSPI
Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
Loading entries.
Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
0 entries modified successfully.
An error has occurred in the program






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RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'm trying to remember how to do that, but it was something I was playing
with in the lab a while ago.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 How?Is there a way to restore only active directory?I know 
 that system state 
 is restored for all.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:57:37 -0500
 
 What about the other option?
 
 -Build a restore server
 -boot into DS recovery mode
 -do an authoritative restore of AD
 
 Keep in mind that system state includes system specific 
 information, so
 restoring the full system state would by design require the 
 same hardware.
 
 On the other hand, restoring just AD doesn't require 
 identical hardware.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
  
  
   Osman,
  
   Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last
   posting I did on this.
   Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty
   much impossible without similar hardware. It's not in a
   document but PSS told me this.
   Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going.
   Multiple physical sites is the way to go. Like I said read
   the story below:
  
  
   SNIP
   After have been trough this myself in the last couple of
   weeks and spending a large amount of hours on the phone with
   MS PSS, this is what my conclusion is.
  
   There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.
  
   First way:
   -Do a system disk and system state backup.
   -Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab.
   (Vendor, raid controller, disks, NIC's, video card, memory,
   firmware levels) If any of the components are not the same it
   will take you a lot of hours to find out why it does not work
   and which component is not working. Even with something as
   simple as the amount of CPU's.
   -Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS
   Active Directory Disaster Recovery document. (Authoritative
   restore, restore 2 times, one to org location, one to
   alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol share,
   copy sysvol data, etc. etc. etc.
  
   Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if
   it is not exactly the same hardware forget it, only $245 with
   PSS will get it to work.
  
   Second way:
   -Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a
   DC in your production first. Let it sync up everything and
   pull it of the wire. (30 minutes).
   -Seize all the FSMO roles.
   -Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that
   are no longer in the AD and that will not be restored).
   -Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of
   Sites and Services.
   -Reboot
   -Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for 
 any errors
   -Check the eventlog for any errors.
  
   I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to
   do it, but after talking to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that
   the preferred way is number two. Basically what he said is
   that if you have more that 1 physical site in your company,
   put a DC there for DR, if not, you better have identical HW
   available when you need to do a DR, they cannot guarantee it
   will work on completely different hardware.
  
   Good luck!
   Fred
   SNIP
  
   -Original Message-
   From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
  
  
   i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired
   the windows but
   still there is  blue screen...
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
   Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100
   
   Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;
   
   Regards,
   /Jimmy
   --
   Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
    www.qadvice.com 
   
   
   
   
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
 osman filiz

RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
Look at the procedures to do an authoritative restore. You can restore the
system state to an alternate location, and you should be able to restore the
entire AD, from the root level, in your lab.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


 -Original Message-
 From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:45 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 
 
 How?Is there a way to restore only active directory?I know 
 that system state 
 is restored for all.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Roger Seielstad [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
 Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 10:57:37 -0500
 
 What about the other option?
 
 -Build a restore server
 -boot into DS recovery mode
 -do an authoritative restore of AD
 
 Keep in mind that system state includes system specific 
 information, so
 restoring the full system state would by design require the 
 same hardware.
 
 On the other hand, restoring just AD doesn't require 
 identical hardware.
 
 --
 Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 10:23 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
  
  
   Osman,
  
   Forget it, it will not work. See my cut/paste from the last
   posting I did on this.
   Microsoft even says that restoring AD from scratch is pretty
   much impossible without similar hardware. It's not in a
   document but PSS told me this.
   Having move DC's around is the way to keep you network going.
   Multiple physical sites is the way to go. Like I said read
   the story below:
  
  
   SNIP
   After have been trough this myself in the last couple of
   weeks and spending a large amount of hours on the phone with
   MS PSS, this is what my conclusion is.
  
   There are 2 ways to build a AD test environment.
  
   First way:
   -Do a system disk and system state backup.
   -Take a machine that has the same hardware for your lab.
   (Vendor, raid controller, disks, NIC's, video card, memory,
   firmware levels) If any of the components are not the same it
   will take you a lot of hours to find out why it does not work
   and which component is not working. Even with something as
   simple as the amount of CPU's.
   -Do a system disk and system state restore according to MS
   Active Directory Disaster Recovery document. (Authoritative
   restore, restore 2 times, one to org location, one to
   alternate location, ntdsutil. Reboot, wait for sysvol share,
   copy sysvol data, etc. etc. etc.
  
   Lot of work (many hours, but it can work, but like I said if
   it is not exactly the same hardware forget it, only $245 with
   PSS will get it to work.
  
   Second way:
   -Install the machine that will run your AD in your lab as a
   DC in your production first. Let it sync up everything and
   pull it of the wire. (30 minutes).
   -Seize all the FSMO roles.
   -Clean up the metadata Q216498 (delete all the servers that
   are no longer in the AD and that will not be restored).
   -Delete the servers that you are not going to restore out of
   Sites and Services.
   -Reboot
   -Run DCDIAG / V C:\output.txt Then search this file for 
 any errors
   -Check the eventlog for any errors.
  
   I always thought that the first way was the preferred way to
   do it, but after talking to a AD guru at PSS, I learned that
   the preferred way is number two. Basically what he said is
   that if you have more that 1 physical site in your company,
   put a DC there for DR, if not, you better have identical HW
   available when you need to do a DR, they cannot guarantee it
   will work on completely different hardware.
  
   Good luck!
   Fred
   SNIP
  
   -Original Message-
   From: osman filiz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 8:19 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
  
  
   i have read this document and i apply the steps i repaired
   the windows but
   still there is  blue screen...
  
  
  
  
  
  
   From: Jimmy Andersson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
   Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2003 13:59:23 +0100
   
   Disaster Recovery of Active Directory on Dissimilar Hardware:
   http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=KB;EN-US;Q263532;
   
   Regards,
   /Jimmy
   --
   Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
    www.qadvice.com 
   
   
   
   
   -Original 

Re: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread John Shukovsky
dn:
cn=Object-GUID,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=dhs,DC=state,DC=nj,DC=us,DC=lab
changetype: add
objectclass: Attribute-Schema
Access-Category: 1
Attribute-ID: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.618

Roger Seielstad wrote:

 Post the first 4 lines of your exschema.ldf file and let's see.

 The error looks pretty clear to me.

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  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
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  Subject: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange
 
 
  Can any help with this error message? I am enterprise\schema admin,
  registry setting was made. I am following KB327757
 
  C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1
  Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
  Logging in as current user using SSPI
  Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
  Loading entries.
  Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
  The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
  0 entries modified successfully.
  An error has occurred in the program
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
Doesn't seem to like Attribute-Schema. 

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 -Original Message-
 From: John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:39 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange
 
 
 dn:
 cn=Object-GUID,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=dhs,DC=state,DC=n
 j,DC=us,DC=lab
 changetype: add
 objectclass: Attribute-Schema
 Access-Category: 1
 Attribute-ID: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.618
 
 Roger Seielstad wrote:
 
  Post the first 4 lines of your exschema.ldf file and let's see.
 
  The error looks pretty clear to me.
 
  --
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  Sr. Systems Administrator
  Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
  Atlanta, GA
 
   -Original Message-
   From: John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
   Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange
  
  
   Can any help with this error message? I am 
 enterprise\schema admin,
   registry setting was made. I am following KB327757
  
   C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1
   Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
   Logging in as current user using SSPI
   Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
   Loading entries.
   Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
   The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
   0 entries modified successfully.
   An error has occurred in the program
  
  
  
  
  
  
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Re: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread John Shukovsky
exschema.ldf ,,  yes

Salandra, Justin A. wrote:

 What is the file you are importing, it is saying that the error in on line
 3?

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 Sent:   Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
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 Subject:[ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

   File: Card for John Shukovsky  Can any help with this error message? I
 am enterprise\schema admin,
 registry setting was made. I am following KB327757

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 Connecting to dhs-root-labdc1
 Logging in as current user using SSPI
 Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
 Loading entries.
 Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
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[ActiveDir] Replication Schedule

2003-01-07 Thread Devan Pala
Hi,

In a hub-spoke topology with preferred bridgehead servers, I have set 
inter-site replication of the four naming contexts (between 2 domains) to be 
NOT available during peak (local) logon times 8am - 10am.

How can I confirm that it is the spoke that this is restricted at and not, 
in our case GMT + 1?

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RE: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange

2003-01-07 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Try attributeSchema. Also make sure you are running this on the schema
master and that schema updates are enabled.

-gil

-Original Message-
From: John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:39 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange


dn:
cn=Object-GUID,CN=Schema,CN=Configuration,DC=dhs,DC=state,DC=nj,DC=us,DC=lab
changetype: add
objectclass: Attribute-Schema
Access-Category: 1
Attribute-ID: 1.2.840.113556.1.2.618

Roger Seielstad wrote:

 Post the first 4 lines of your exschema.ldf file and let's see.

 The error looks pretty clear to me.

 --
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 Sr. Systems Administrator
 Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
 Atlanta, GA

  -Original Message-
  From: John Shukovsky [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
  Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 11:44 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: [ActiveDir] Extend AD for Exchange
 
 
  Can any help with this error message? I am enterprise\schema admin, 
  registry setting was made. I am following KB327757
 
  C:\Schemaldifde -i -f exschema.ldf -s dhs-root-labdc1 Connecting to 
  dhs-root-labdc1 Logging in as current user using SSPI
  Importing directory from file exschema.ldf
  Loading entries.
  Add error on line 3: No Such Attribute
  The server side error is The parameter is incorrect.
  0 entries modified successfully.
  An error has occurred in the program
 
 
 
 
 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] site replication, bridgehead server problem

2003-01-07 Thread Roger Seielstad
While I don't have any hard evidence to back this up, my gut level response
is that DC4 is contacting DC1 because of the FSMO roles - most likely the
Infrastructure  and RID masters (almost definitely the latter).

I'd wager you're going to have to make the bridgehead in site 1 the FSMO
holding box.

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 -Original Message-
 From: Thommes, Michael M. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 07, 2003 3:27 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] site replication, bridgehead server problem
 
 
 Hi All!
 We have a single master domain spread over two sites.  
 Site1 has 3 DCs
 (DC1, DC2, DC3).  DC1 holds the FSMO roles.  DC2 is a GC.  
 Site2 has only
 1 DC (DC4).  It is also a GC.  Because of the slow link 
 between Site1 and
 Site2 and with firewalls on each end (what fun!), we are 
 trying to assign
 Bridgehead servers on each site.  With Site2 only having 1 
 DC, it (DC4)
 should automatically be the bridgehead server for that site.  We have
 identified DC2 as the bridgehead server for Site1.
 
 Firewall logs indicate that DC4 still wants to 
 communicate with DC1,
 along with DC2.  In addition, replmon (on DC2), when asked to show
 bridgehead servers for the enterprise, shows the following:
 
   InboundOutbound
 DC4XX
 DC1X
 DC2  X
 
 Intrasite transport is IP.  Bridge all site links has been 
 unchecked on
 the Transport properties dialog box.  All respective DCs have 
 been rebooted.
 
 We really would like DC4 to communicate with DC2 only.  Can 
 anyone tell me
 what we're missing?  I have come across Technet articles that 
 talk about
 restricting RPC calls to a specific range of ports as a workaround for
 dynamic RPC regarding AD and FRS replication.  Anyone have 
 any experience
 with doing this?
 
 Also, with all the email going on about global catalog 
 servers, I thought
 the rule was that you DIDN'T want to run a GC on an DC that holds the
 Infrastructure Master role.
 
 Any thoughts are appreciated!  Thanks.
 
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Re: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread stefano tufillaro
Hi Osman
I had the same problem and I spent much time to solve.
It's possible but difficult.
You must read ALL you find with this search
ATAPI, IDE, ULTRA-ATA, in technet.
You find very information, not only in a site (sic.) where you can by 
directly (if you can boot in windows also if with problems) create a multi 
hardawre boot machine (Yes not every problems with different Hard disk 
engines ) or indirectly (recover console in the original o in clone with 
problems machine).
I use this system from that time (one year) and so I have ONLY a prototype 
than by GHOST image autoinstall
every machine from That machine.
If you have a Domain Controller you will need to add time for the sync and 
re-align (very previous e-mail told it).
Alternatively, www.sysinterals.com have several utilities (free and not) to 
operate by serail cable RS232 beetwen a functional machine and the machine 
doesn't functioning.
They say also having tools for your situation but I don't know it.
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[ActiveDir] What's your group naming convention?

2003-01-07 Thread David Adner
We're looking to establish a naming standard for local and global groups 
and I'm interested in any thoughts, suggestions, examples, etc.


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RE: [ActiveDir] What's your group naming convention?

2003-01-07 Thread Kevin Miller
 
I like to name the groups based on the purpose of the group is... 

--Kevinm M, WLKMMAS, Exchange MVP, And Beyond
 
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We're looking to establish a naming standard for local and global groups
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Re: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware

2003-01-07 Thread osman filiz

Thanks...






From: stefano tufillaro [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD restore to dissimilar hardware
Date: Tue, 07 Jan 2003 21:38:01 +

Hi Osman
I had the same problem and I spent much time to solve.
It's possible but difficult.
You must read ALL you find with this search
ATAPI, IDE, ULTRA-ATA, in technet.
You find very information, not only in a site (sic.) where you can by 
directly (if you can boot in windows also if with problems) create a multi 
hardawre boot machine (Yes not every problems with different Hard disk 
engines ) or indirectly (recover console in the original o in clone with 
problems machine).
I use this system from that time (one year) and so I have ONLY a prototype 
than by GHOST image autoinstall
every machine from That machine.
If you have a Domain Controller you will need to add time for the sync and 
re-align (very previous e-mail told it).
Alternatively, www.sysinterals.com have several utilities (free and not) to 
operate by serail cable RS232 beetwen a functional machine and the machine 
doesn't functioning.
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

2003-01-07 Thread Craig Cerino
Title: Message









Right - - but if you have more than one DC
I recommend making one of the ones without FSMO roles the GC



-Original
Message-
From: Van Donk, Fred
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Sent: Tuesday,
 January 07, 2003
9:22
 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab





When you have one domain there is not really a need for multiple
GC's. Every DC already has a full copy of the AD. GC's play a more important
role when you have a forest with multiple domains in it.





But there needs to be at least one GC in the forest. Even with one
domain.











Fred











-Original
Message-
From: Craig Cerino
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Sent: Tuesday,
 January 07, 2003
8:35
 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab

If you only have one DC
in each site - -- yer pretty much tied to doing that. If you have the resources
Id through a second DC in each site - - make that your GC.



Jus my 2 cents



-Original
Message-
From: Pelle, Joe
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday,
 January 07, 2003
8:17
 AM
To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lab



If we have one domain - but multiple sites - would it be a
best practice to put a global catalog on the domain controller(s) at each site?




KB: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;313994





Thanks! 





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-Original Message-
From: Rene Chakraborty
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Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 8:41 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lab





Got to make that BDC a Global
Catalog Server before you more it over. 

















Sites and Services






Rene



















- Original Message - 





From: Don Murawski (Lenox) 





To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]






Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 3:08 PM





Subject: [ActiveDir]
AD Lab











Has anyone setup a AD Lab and had
Global Catalog problems?





I installed aBDCon the
productionnetwork, disconnectit from the production and connected
it to the lab network.





Seize the FSMO roles.





I'm able to join the domain
but,I'm receivingUnable toestablishconnection
with a GC.











Any suggestion would be great.






















[ActiveDir] site replication, bridgehead server problem

2003-01-07 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Hi All!
We have a single master domain spread over two sites.  Site1 has 3 DCs
(DC1, DC2, DC3).  DC1 holds the FSMO roles.  DC2 is a GC.  Site2 has only
1 DC (DC4).  It is also a GC.  Because of the slow link between Site1 and
Site2 and with firewalls on each end (what fun!), we are trying to assign
Bridgehead servers on each site.  With Site2 only having 1 DC, it (DC4)
should automatically be the bridgehead server for that site.  We have
identified DC2 as the bridgehead server for Site1.

Firewall logs indicate that DC4 still wants to communicate with DC1,
along with DC2.  In addition, replmon (on DC2), when asked to show
bridgehead servers for the enterprise, shows the following:

  InboundOutbound
DC4XX
DC1X
DC2  X

Intrasite transport is IP.  Bridge all site links has been unchecked on
the Transport properties dialog box.  All respective DCs have been rebooted.

We really would like DC4 to communicate with DC2 only.  Can anyone tell me
what we're missing?  I have come across Technet articles that talk about
restricting RPC calls to a specific range of ports as a workaround for
dynamic RPC regarding AD and FRS replication.  Anyone have any experience
with doing this?

Also, with all the email going on about global catalog servers, I thought
the rule was that you DIDN'T want to run a GC on an DC that holds the
Infrastructure Master role.

Any thoughts are appreciated!  Thanks.

Mike Thommes
Argonne National Laboratory
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