Re: [ActiveDir] security templates

2003-02-23 Thread Graham Turner
Dear All, have rather belatedly got to this.  Thanks for the posted replies
on this.

this looks an excellent reference.

it would seem that these are later versions of the templates made avialable
through the security operations guide.

could anyone point us to URL where these are available for download

am just reveiwing the high security DC templates - I see that the user
rights assignment references what i would assume to be well known SID's

would anyone perhaps be able to point me to a reference wehere these are
documented ??

Thanks for you help

GT

- Original Message -
From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:52 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates


 Thanks, Bob!  ;-)

 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone





  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:26 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
  Funny, I was just looking at those :-]
 
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
 hnet/security/issues/W2kCCSCG/W2kSCGcf.asp
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:22 PM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
  Graham,
 
  Though I don't have a link to them in front of me at the
  moment, as you might recall, Microsoft submitted for and
  passed the Common Criteria. Microsoft (via SAIC) published a
  configuration and an administration guide that is a bit more
  current with templates, et. al.  Look into those for your
  Security Configuration guidelines, in conjunction with the
  SecOps guides.
 
  Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
  Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
  Associate Expert
  Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
  Graham Turner
   Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: [ActiveDir] security templates
  
  
   very keen to leverage the templates for baselining DC
   security and configuration distributed with the MS security
   operations guide,
  
   it would seem that these would have been developed certainly
   before SP3 (w2k by the way) which seems to have introduced a
   number of additional services eg
  
   Automatic updates
   Background Intelligent transfer service
  
   would anyone have a reference on what additional services are
   added to the base w2k distribution and IDEALLY (says he being
   a bit lazy !!) updated revisions of the security templates to
   reflect a SP3 installation -
  
   if not i guess off to MMC i go !!!
  
   GT
  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] security templates

2003-02-23 Thread Rick Kingslan
Graham,

If there are versions of the templates that have been made available
since those initial ones, I'm unaware of them.

As to the SIDs, as I recall, you're correct - they are well-known
principals, users and groups both.  I've seen these documented numerous
places, but I can't think of one good source off the top of my head.  I
typically use SIDToNAME, coded by another MVP, Joe Richards - and
available at his site www.joeware.net

On a whim, I did a quick check on the MS Knowledgebase and found this.
It's pretty complete and should help:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear All, have rather belatedly got to this.  Thanks for the 
 posted replies on this.
 
 this looks an excellent reference.
 
 it would seem that these are later versions of the templates 
 made avialable through the security operations guide.
 
 could anyone point us to URL where these are available for download
 
 am just reveiwing the high security DC templates - I see that 
 the user rights assignment references what i would assume to 
 be well known SID's
 
 would anyone perhaps be able to point me to a reference 
 wehere these are documented ??
 
 Thanks for you help
 
 GT
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:52 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
  Thanks, Bob!  ;-)
 
  Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
  Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
  Associate Expert
  Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
   Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:26 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
  
  
   Funny, I was just looking at those :-]
  
   http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
  hnet/security/issues/W2kCCSCG/W2kSCGcf.asp
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:22 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
  
  
   Graham,
  
   Though I don't have a link to them in front of me at the 
 moment, as 
   you might recall, Microsoft submitted for and passed the Common 
   Criteria. Microsoft (via SAIC) published a configuration and an 
   administration guide that is a bit more current with 
 templates, et. 
   al.  Look into those for your Security Configuration 
 guidelines, in 
   conjunction with the SecOps guides.
  
   Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
   Associate Expert
   Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Graham Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
very keen to leverage the templates for baselining DC 
 security and 
configuration distributed with the MS security operations guide,
   
it would seem that these would have been developed certainly 
before SP3 (w2k by the way) which seems to have introduced a 
number of additional services eg
   
Automatic updates
Background Intelligent transfer service
   
would anyone have a reference on what additional services are 
added to the base w2k distribution and IDEALLY (says he being a 
bit lazy !!) updated revisions of the security templates to 
reflect a SP3 installation -
   
if not i guess off to MMC i go !!!
   
GT
   
   
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Re: [ActiveDir] security templates

2003-02-23 Thread Graham Turner
Rick, Q243330 - thats' great - exactly what i look for.

i have to admit that the issue of security templates is a little
frustrating. i guess it is indicative of the ongoing development of w2k but
nonetheless a little time consuming to be having to mod security templates,
reload into GPOs each time a service pack introduces any number of services
that do not fulfil the requirement of minimal (secure) configuration.

for me i think to use the security operationd guide templates as the
starting point, tweaks to get out the SP3 nasties !!

ps how's the soccer going for you ??

GT

- Original Message -
From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 4:11 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates


 Graham,

 If there are versions of the templates that have been made available
 since those initial ones, I'm unaware of them.

 As to the SIDs, as I recall, you're correct - they are well-known
 principals, users and groups both.  I've seen these documented numerous
 places, but I can't think of one good source off the top of my head.  I
 typically use SIDToNAME, coded by another MVP, Joe Richards - and
 available at his site www.joeware.net

 On a whim, I did a quick check on the MS Knowledgebase and found this.
 It's pretty complete and should help:
 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:33 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Dear All, have rather belatedly got to this.  Thanks for the
  posted replies on this.
 
  this looks an excellent reference.
 
  it would seem that these are later versions of the templates
  made avialable through the security operations guide.
 
  could anyone point us to URL where these are available for download
 
  am just reveiwing the high security DC templates - I see that
  the user rights assignment references what i would assume to
  be well known SID's
 
  would anyone perhaps be able to point me to a reference
  wehere these are documented ??
 
  Thanks for you help
 
  GT
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
   Thanks, Bob!  ;-)
  
   Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
   Associate Expert
   Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
Funny, I was just looking at those :-]
   
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
   hnet/security/issues/W2kCCSCG/W2kSCGcf.asp
   
-Original Message-
From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
Graham,
   
Though I don't have a link to them in front of me at the
  moment, as
you might recall, Microsoft submitted for and passed the Common
Criteria. Microsoft (via SAIC) published a configuration and an
administration guide that is a bit more current with
  templates, et.
al.  Look into those for your Security Configuration
  guidelines, in
conjunction with the SecOps guides.
   
Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
   
   
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Graham Turner
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] security templates


 very keen to leverage the templates for baselining DC
  security and
 configuration distributed with the MS security operations guide,

 it would seem that these would have been developed certainly
 before SP3 (w2k by the way) which seems to have introduced a
 number of additional services eg

 Automatic updates
 Background Intelligent transfer service

 would anyone have a reference on what additional services are
 added to the base w2k distribution and IDEALLY (says he being a
 bit lazy !!) updated revisions of the security templates to
 reflect a SP3 installation -

 if not i guess off to MMC i go !!!

 GT


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RE: [ActiveDir] security templates

2003-02-23 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Hi Rick,
The URL you posted is available to MVP accounts only.  However, an open
reference can be found at
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

Mike Thommes
Argonne National Laboratory 
 

-Original Message-
From: Rick Kingslan
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 2/23/2003 10:11 AM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates 

Graham,

If there are versions of the templates that have been made available
since those initial ones, I'm unaware of them.

As to the SIDs, as I recall, you're correct - they are well-known
principals, users and groups both.  I've seen these documented numerous
places, but I can't think of one good source off the top of my head.  I
typically use SIDToNAME, coded by another MVP, Joe Richards - and
available at his site www.joeware.net

On a whim, I did a quick check on the MS Knowledgebase and found this.
It's pretty complete and should help:
http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



  
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:33 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 Dear All, have rather belatedly got to this.  Thanks for the 
 posted replies on this.
 
 this looks an excellent reference.
 
 it would seem that these are later versions of the templates 
 made avialable through the security operations guide.
 
 could anyone point us to URL where these are available for download
 
 am just reveiwing the high security DC templates - I see that 
 the user rights assignment references what i would assume to 
 be well known SID's
 
 would anyone perhaps be able to point me to a reference 
 wehere these are documented ??
 
 Thanks for you help
 
 GT
 
 - Original Message -
 From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:52 PM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
  Thanks, Bob!  ;-)
 
  Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
  Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
  Associate Expert
  Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
 
 
 
 
 
   -Original Message-
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
   Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:26 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
  
  
   Funny, I was just looking at those :-]
  
   http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
  hnet/security/issues/W2kCCSCG/W2kSCGcf.asp
  
   -Original Message-
   From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:22 PM
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
  
  
   Graham,
  
   Though I don't have a link to them in front of me at the 
 moment, as 
   you might recall, Microsoft submitted for and passed the Common 
   Criteria. Microsoft (via SAIC) published a configuration and an 
   administration guide that is a bit more current with 
 templates, et. 
   al.  Look into those for your Security Configuration 
 guidelines, in 
   conjunction with the SecOps guides.
  
   Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
   Associate Expert
   Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
   Graham Turner
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
very keen to leverage the templates for baselining DC 
 security and 
configuration distributed with the MS security operations guide,
   
it would seem that these would have been developed certainly 
before SP3 (w2k by the way) which seems to have introduced a 
number of additional services eg
   
Automatic updates
Background Intelligent transfer service
   
would anyone have a reference on what additional services are 
added to the base w2k distribution and IDEALLY (says he being a 
bit lazy !!) updated revisions of the security templates to 
reflect a SP3 installation -
   
if not i guess off to MMC i go !!!
   
GT
   
   
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Re: [ActiveDir] security templates

2003-02-23 Thread Graham Turner
yeh, a blatant bit of oneupmanship to us mere mortals 


- Original Message -
From: Thommes, Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'Rick Kingslan ' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:42 PM
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates


 Hi Rick,
 The URL you posted is available to MVP accounts only.  However, an
open
 reference can be found at
 http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

 Mike Thommes
 Argonne National Laboratory


 -Original Message-
 From: Rick Kingslan
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 2/23/2003 10:11 AM
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates

 Graham,

 If there are versions of the templates that have been made available
 since those initial ones, I'm unaware of them.

 As to the SIDs, as I recall, you're correct - they are well-known
 principals, users and groups both.  I've seen these documented numerous
 places, but I can't think of one good source off the top of my head.  I
 typically use SIDToNAME, coded by another MVP, Joe Richards - and
 available at his site www.joeware.net

 On a whim, I did a quick check on the MS Knowledgebase and found this.
 It's pretty complete and should help:
 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;243330

 Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
 Associate Expert
 Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone



 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
  Sent: Sunday, February 23, 2003 5:33 AM
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Dear All, have rather belatedly got to this.  Thanks for the
  posted replies on this.
 
  this looks an excellent reference.
 
  it would seem that these are later versions of the templates
  made avialable through the security operations guide.
 
  could anyone point us to URL where these are available for download
 
  am just reveiwing the high security DC templates - I see that
  the user rights assignment references what i would assume to
  be well known SID's
 
  would anyone perhaps be able to point me to a reference
  wehere these are documented ??
 
  Thanks for you help
 
  GT
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Rick Kingslan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 11:52 PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
 
 
   Thanks, Bob!  ;-)
  
   Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
   Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
   Associate Expert
   Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
  
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Free, Bob
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 5:26 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
Funny, I was just looking at those :-]
   
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/treeview/default.asp?url=/tec
   hnet/security/issues/W2kCCSCG/W2kSCGcf.asp
   
-Original Message-
From: Rick Kingslan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:22 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] security templates
   
   
Graham,
   
Though I don't have a link to them in front of me at the
  moment, as
you might recall, Microsoft submitted for and passed the Common
Criteria. Microsoft (via SAIC) published a configuration and an
administration guide that is a bit more current with
  templates, et.
al.  Look into those for your Security Configuration
  guidelines, in
conjunction with the SecOps guides.
   
Rick Kingslan  MCSE, MCSA, MCT
Microsoft MVP - Active Directory
Associate Expert
Expert Zone - www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone
   
   
   
   
   
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Graham Turner
 Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 3:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [ActiveDir] security templates


 very keen to leverage the templates for baselining DC
  security and
 configuration distributed with the MS security operations guide,

 it would seem that these would have been developed certainly
 before SP3 (w2k by the way) which seems to have introduced a
 number of additional services eg

 Automatic updates
 Background Intelligent transfer service

 would anyone have a reference on what additional services are
 added to the base w2k distribution and IDEALLY (says he being a
 bit lazy !!) updated revisions of the security templates to
 reflect a SP3 installation -

 if not i guess off to MMC i go !!!

 GT


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[ActiveDir] 128 bit high encrpytion pack

2003-02-23 Thread Graham Turner
seems a prerequisite for migration of NT4 source to a Windows 2000 target
domain is the installation of 128 bit encryption on PES server (on source
DC) and ADMT2 host (on target PDC emulator).

quick question  - how does one tell if this is the case on an NT4 domain
controller ??

ditto - win2k - is this not default on an win2k / sp3 install ??

GT


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