RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread PAUL MAYES
/lurkerHi All,Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere. Typically we go back to tape, which depending on when the last successful backup took place gives you a bit of a wide window to play with. Not good if you're going back some 24 hours/days etc...To get better coverage of times we kicked about with lag sites. Trouble is, and this has already been noted, replication and timings can scupper the intentions of lag sites and where do you stop. Is one enough, is one for every hour of the day enough?Microsoft released this white paper on fast recovery with AD using SAN's and disk imaging. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/activedirectory/W2K3ActDirFastRec.mspxNow, I'm currently playing with using Microsoft's in-built disk snapshotting to provide something similar. So on a pure DC server I've set it up to snapsnot it's disks everyhour. And then I get to chose which hour that I go back to and use as my recovered backup. After all it's the same tech that's used when you actually do a backup.No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can only snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few DC's then you can get much better coverage than lag sites without the need for more DC's or creative subnetting.Now I'm going to stand back and be
 shot down in flames. But thus far playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple lag sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it might stimulate some discussion. Oh and I realise that this is way far from perfect.Curious to know if anyone has done this or thought about it if nothing else.  Paul.Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:35:36 -0800  I also said, I have to spend my time and money wisely. I am well aware of why people use lag-sites.  They always like to throw the   money issue around... but I wonder what the TCO is really.  Maybe these
 major   AD DR players should commission a study heck maybe MSFT should for both AD   and Exchange Mailboxes. I think you would do better to encourage new Admins to make sure they do a MFT   backup of a domain controllers system state each night, then stand-up more   sites and servers.  Then based on need select the restore method and evaluate   the results. I agree knowing how all the inner workings does help as well, but operations   people are usually not engineers, so it is best to give them tools that have   some workflow, and makes the operation smooth and less error prone. Thanks again,  Todd  

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread neil.ruston



As I stated earlier, we need to differentiate between 
object restores (via lag sites) and true DR (which the MS paper deals with). 
Restoring a user differs to the restoration of a DC, which differs again to the 
restoration of a domain and/or forest.

Objects can be restored using 3rd party tools (which back 
up the database and all attributes regularly) and/or via lag 
sites.
True DR needs (IMO) a separate physical location, separate 
physical machines along with DR processes and technologies.

Requirements need to be gathered so that the optimal 
solution can be found.

What are you trying to achieve?

neilPS I tried to curb my habit of waffling 
:)



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MAYESSent: 08 March 2006 13:13To: 
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Sites

/lurker

Hi All,

Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a 
ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!

The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere. Typically we go 
back to tape, which depending on when the last successful backup took place 
gives you a bit of a wide window to play with. Not good if you're going back 
some 24 hours/days etc...

To get better coverage of times we kicked about with lag sites. Trouble is, 
and this has already been noted, replication and timings can scupper the 
intentions of lag sites and where do you stop. Is one enough, is one for every 
hour of the day enough?

Microsoft released this white paper on fast recovery with AD using SAN's 
and disk imaging. 

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/activedirectory/W2K3ActDirFastRec.mspx

Now, I'm currently playing with using Microsoft's in-built disk 
snapshotting to provide something similar. So on a pure DC server I've set it up 
to snapsnot it's disks everyhour. And then I get to chose which hour that 
I go back to and use as my recovered backup. After all it's the same tech that's 
used when you actually do a backup.

No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore from 
that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can only 
snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few DC's then you 
can get much better coverage than lag sites without the need for more DC's or 
creative subnetting.

Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far 
playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple lag 
sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it might stimulate 
some discussion. 

Oh and I realise that this is way far from perfect.

Curious to know if anyone has done this or thought about it if nothing 
else.


Paul.

Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:35:36 -0800
I also said, I have to spend my time and money wisely. I am well aware of why people use lag-sites.  They always like to throw the   money issue around... but I wonder what the TCO is really.  Maybe these
 major   AD DR players should commission a study heck maybe MSFT should for both AD   and Exchange Mailboxes. I think you would do better to encourage new Admins to make sure they do a MFT   backup of a domain controllers system state each night, then stand-up more   sites and servers.  Then based on need select the restore method and evaluate   the results. I agree knowing how all the inner workings does help as well, but operations   people are usually not engineers, so it is best to give them tools that have   some workflow, and makes the operation smooth and less error prone. Thanks again,  Todd  PLEASE READ: The information contained in this email is confidential and

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Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

PAUL MAYES wrote:

(...)

 
No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore 
from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can 
only snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few 
DC's then you can get much better coverage than lag sites without the 
need for more DC's or creative subnetting.
 
Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far 
playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple 
lag sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it might 
stimulate some discussion.


(...)

You can't use images or snapshots as a backup\recovery solutions for DC 
because You are risking getting into USN roll-back problem. Search 
through ActivDir.org archives for USN roll-back and You will find good 
explanation of this problem.



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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Wyatt, David
Title: Message



Hi 
Paul, do you use the disk snapshots to provide the ability to restore an object 
or the whole DC (and therefore the whole Active Directory database), or 
both?


  
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  On Behalf Of PAUL MAYESSent: 08 Mar 2006 13:13To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag 
  Sites
  /lurker
  
  Hi All,
  
  Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a 
  ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!
  
  The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere. Typically we go 
  back to tape, which depending on when the last successful backup took place 
  gives you a bit of a wide window to play with. Not good if you're going back 
  some 24 hours/days etc...
  
  To get better coverage of times we kicked about with lag sites. Trouble 
  is, and this has already been noted, replication and timings can scupper the 
  intentions of lag sites and where do you stop. Is one enough, is one for every 
  hour of the day enough?
  
  Microsoft released this white paper on fast recovery with AD using SAN's 
  and disk imaging. 
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/activedirectory/W2K3ActDirFastRec.mspx
  
  Now, I'm currently playing with using Microsoft's in-built disk 
  snapshotting to provide something similar. So on a pure DC server I've set it 
  up to snapsnot it's disks everyhour. And then I get to chose which hour 
  that I go back to and use as my recovered backup. After all it's the same tech 
  that's used when you actually do a backup.
  
  No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore 
  from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can only 
  snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few DC's then you 
  can get much better coverage than lag sites without the need for more DC's or 
  creative subnetting.
  
  Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far   playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple lag 
  sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it might stimulate 
  some discussion. 
  
  Oh and I realise that this is way far from perfect.
  
  Curious to know if anyone has done this or thought about it if nothing 
  else.
  
  
  Paul.
  
  Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:35:36 -0800
  I also said, I have to spend my time and money wisely. I am well aware of why people use lag-sites.  They always like to throw the   money issue around... but I wonder what the TCO is really.  Maybe these
 major   AD DR players should commission a study heck maybe MSFT should for both AD   and Exchange Mailboxes. I think you would do better to encourage new Admins to make sure they do a MFT   backup of a domain controllers system state each night, then stand-up more   sites and servers.  Then based on need select the restore method and evaluate   the results. I agree knowing how all the inner workings does help as well, but operations   people are usually not engineers, so it is best to give them tools that have   some workflow, and makes the operation smooth and less error prone. Thanks again,  Todd  


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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread neil.ruston
The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue. 

neil

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PAUL MAYES wrote:

(...)

  
 No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore

 from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you 
 can only snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a 
 few DC's then you can get much better coverage than lag sites without 
 the need for more DC's or creative subnetting.
  
 Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far 
 playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple

 lag sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it 
 might stimulate some discussion.

(...)

You can't use images or snapshots as a backup\recovery solutions for DC
because You are risking getting into USN roll-back problem. Search
through ActivDir.org archives for USN roll-back and You will find good
explanation of this problem.


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Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

Tomasz Onyszko wrote:

Sorry - I've messed up two different things :(
please forget about this post.

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Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

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The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue. 



Yes, I'm aware of this. Sorry - I'm a bit overloaded and I've read this 
post only with one eye before replying.

It wasn't my brightest post :( - and there is no re-call option :)


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RE: [ActiveDir] (OT) How to find a computer on same segment but different ip subnet

2006-03-08 Thread Rich Milburn
Yeah that was a concern initially but we did install it.  Actually I believe 
the issue is that (from docs I have found) WMI uses RPC which doesn't run over 
NetBEUI, it uses NetBIOS over TCP/IP.  

I did manage to use psexec, and it seems to work most of the time.  I got the 
detection part, and parsing the results from psconfig, now I'm working on the 
resetting of the IP locally to the same subnet.  I'll figure that out, I have 
another script that does it well. 

If anyone is interested in seeing this script when I'm done, say so and I'll 
post it.

Rich

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Back at you.
 
It appears that the problem is due to your NT4 not speaking WMI. In such
situations, I either rewrite the vbscript to query the registry using reg.exe
and grab the info, or I script an auto-deployment of WMI to the
non-WMI-compliant systems using
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?displaylang=enFamilyID=AFE41
F46-E213-4CBF-9C5B-FBF236E0E875
 
The psexec option is not bad either, considering that you can put all the
old names in question into one input file and feed it to psexec at once.
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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Yesterday?  -anon



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Hey Deji...

Old computer is alive.  It is NT4.  The new computer has been installed with
an image of XP, and it is replacing the old computer.  we'll bring the new
one up, grab data and config info from the old one, power the old one down,
reconfig the new one to match the old one, and we're done.  Not bad to
script, except for this one thing.  I'm gonna try the psexec tool, that might
work.  ... in fact, it does work.  Gotta send the results to a file I guess,
but that's ok... I have that technology :)

If anyone else knows how to tell WMI to use netbeui though, or why it won't,
or has other ideas, feel free to share (even offline if you wish)

Thanks
Rich

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I know that it all made sense to you when you wrote all that. However, I am
very slow and still on my first cup of coffee. So, in slooow motion:

Is the old computer dead or alive? If dead, is it dead as in just turned
off, or dead as in re-imaged? why is it important that you know its IP addy?
By that, I mean what's the stated end-goal here?


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Subject: [ActiveDir] (OT) How to find a computer on same segment but
different ip subnet



Sorry for the OT, but there are a lot of people here with extensive outside
skills and this might be a tricky thing to do (but I don't want to post it on
forumz.hackz.tw)...



I have 2 computers - one with a default (from image) of 192.168.1.34 /
255.255.255.224, and one with 192.168.2.34, same netmask.  So they are on
different subnets, but they are on the same hub/switch.  They are both
running NetBEUI.  I can net view \\oldcomputer  and see the shares on the old
computer.  Of course I cannot ping the old computer.  I have a vbscript to
grab the IP address of the old computer, thinking it will use whatever
transport it can to get 

RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread PAUL MAYES
Whoa, yep perhaps I didn't ramble enough!Simply, whoops I've lost something out of the directory. I need to get that stuff back. Where can i get the stuff back from:- tape  - another
 DC  - perhaps deleted object restoration by some other 3rd party or another custom written process, maybe, depends what's been lost (if known) or how much money the boss let me spend on buying products.Now depending on the stuff that's been lost you vary the approach, or at least it seems common sense to me not to go around doing funky things if someone's deleted one user, unless it's the bloke who runs the company!Then depending on what's happened you've got the next stress of where can I
 get the stuff back on to?Now when I chucked in that comment I wasn't advocating that as the universal solution for all DR problems. Blimey my job would be easy if that was the case. But if you're trying to answer the problem of 'where do I get the stuff back from?' then it's probably worth considering even if it's chucked straight out. And yes it does have it's bad points, but on the face it's the same bad points as going back to a tape. (Unless there is a difference that I'm missing?).Every solution has it's bad points, just thought it might be worth kicking around with for some scenarios. When I was looking at the timeline in the fast recovery paper it gave me an idea, so I drew out a timeline based on our organisation and then I could point at the line and stress in some situations. Now using disk snapshots meant that all of a sudden you could get some more points on that timeline, maybe some richer restore capability. As the white paper suggests, it gets you away from some limitations of tape. So all that I've done is draw up a timeline, think of the scenarios and plan what to do.   And whilst I was at it give disk snapshotting some air time.  As I stated earlier, we need to differentiate between object restores (via lag sites) and true DR (which the MS paper deals with). Restoring a user differs to the restoration of a DC, which differs again to the restoration of a domain and/or forest.Objects can be restored using 3rd party tools (which back up the database and all attributes regularly) and/or via lag sites.  True DR needs (IMO) a separate physical location, separate physical machines along with DR processes and technologies.Requirements need to be gathered so that the optimal solution can be found.What are you trying to achieve?neilPS I tried to curb my habit of waffling :)

[ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread Justin_Leney

AD Gurus, 

Before I embarked on a Google search,
I thought I might get some opinions from this list. 

What resources (utils, whitepapers etc)
have people been using to clean up an AD infrastructure? 

I can go into more detail if anyone
is interested...basically all of our DC's have tons of warnings and errors
in the event logs. 

Thanks, 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
that is too generic cleanup AD infrastructure...
 
what do you want to clean:
* unused user accounts, groups, computer
* metadata of DCs
* everything else I cannot remember right now
 
jorge



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What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to clean up an 
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I can go into more detail if anyone is interested...basically all of our DC's 
have tons of warnings and errors in the event logs. 

Thanks, 

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[ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Rimmerman, Russ



If you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?

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Re: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread John Singler

A couple of weeks ago i 'attended' a webinar from NetPro called:

16 Steps to a Healthier and Happier Active Directory
http://www.netpro.com/company/events.cfm

It is a very good overview of the tasks involved in getting AD to smile.

It seems like the link from NetPro's website sends you to 
http://searchwindowssecurity.bitpipe.com/webcasts but i don't see it 
archived there ... maybe Gil can chime in with a location?


Slides here:

http://www.netpro.com/forum/files/Sixteen_Simple_Steps.pdf

good luck,

john

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Before I embarked on a Google search, I thought I might get some opinions 
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What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to clean up 
an AD infrastructure? 

I can go into more detail if anyone is interested...basically all of our 
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Thanks, 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Hi Russ,
 
The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots and after that each 15 min..
 
The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and that depends on the site and replication 
topology, partitions to replicate and replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will recreate them during the next KCC cycle. 
The creation of auto COs also depends on what manual COs have been created. 
Manual created COs will never be touched by the KCC
 
So, why do you think it is wrong or what do you mean with If you promote a new 
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication 
links
 
jorge



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Subject: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


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Re: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Za Vue




The links will regenerate, if DNS is working properly.

-Z.V.

Rimmerman, Russ wrote:

  
  
  If
you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and
manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?
  

  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Rimmerman, Russ



All our remote sites automatically pick the same DC at DHQ,
but this site picked a DC that is our primary DNS server at DHQ for some
reason. We've never had that DC be selected by the KCC before, and I'm not
sure why it picked that one instead.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


Hi Russ,

The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots
and after that each 15 min..

The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and
that depends on the site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and
replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will
recreate them during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends
on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched
by the KCC

So, why do you think it is wrong or what
do you mean with "If you
promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication links"

jorge

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

If you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?

  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Rimmerman, Russ



I see the problem, this remote DC has a "replicate from"
correctly but the replicate to was a different DC. I deleted the
replication link to that DC and now there's nothing in the "Replicate to" blank
for that DC. So it will repopulate within 15
minutes?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


Hi Russ,

The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots
and after that each 15 min..

The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and
that depends on the site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and
replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will
recreate them during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends
on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched
by the KCC

So, why do you think it is wrong or what
do you mean with "If you
promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication links"

jorge

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

If you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?

  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
yes... on the DC that needs the CO to replicate from. remember when looking on 
another DC, that object (including the old deleted CO) still needs to replicate 
to the other DCs



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 16:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


I see the problem, this remote DC has a replicate from correctly but the 
replicate to was a different DC.  I deleted the replication link to that DC and 
now there's nothing in the Replicate to blank for that DC.  So it will 
repopulate within 15 minutes?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


Hi Russ,
 
The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots and after that each 15 min..
 
The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and that depends on the site and replication 
topology, partitions to replicate and replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will recreate them during the next KCC cycle. 
The creation of auto COs also depends on what manual COs have been created. 
Manual created COs will never be touched by the KCC
 
So, why do you think it is wrong or what do you mean with If you promote a new 
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication 
links
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


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Re: [ActiveDir] OT : Query DNS using wildcards?

2006-03-08 Thread Al Mulnick
I thought you said it was AD-integrated? 


On 3/7/06, Bart Van den Wyngaert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hi Dèjì,

This is such moment when a person says to himself (or herself ofcourse) Why didn't I think about that?!.

Yes that is a solution! Hope they only are willing to accept it...

Many thanks!

Bart

On 3/7/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
Extracting the zones to a .txt file which a script can loop throughsearching for certain strings. Ideal solution would be to look for server* 
records and delete them as they are being found. But as already indicated byother people, this is not available..Why not? If it's a standard zone, you could just read the zone file, usingfilesystemobject, do a Readline, and if you see servername in the line, 
delete the line.Or did I misread you?Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCTMicrosoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT www.akomolafe.comDo you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?-anonFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on behalf of Bart Van den WyngaertSent: Mon 3/6/2006 3:07 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] OT : Query DNS using wildcards? Hi Al,Thanks for your answer. It's not zone transfers I'm looking for, but youranswer nevertheless pointed me towards another road with a lot of thoughts!
We are used to register DNS records manually by script. All other records are added manually. When a server is at the end of it's life, we clean all it'sregistrations. In case of a cluster, including all records for it's cluster
resources.As this process is totally manually and there are some with quiet a lot of records pointing to cluster resources, we're looking for a way to query theDNS server to retrieve all records related to that server/cluster and then
delete them.Additionally a lot of servers/clusters are being powered off some week already before we format them and unregister everything in our environment.This is mostly the case for migrations so that the owners are sure they
haven't forgotten a little thing ;-) Currently we have to boot the server again to have a script running locally to retrieve IP's and names registeredin the DNS. If we should have a workaround, we don't need to this anymore and
we just break the array, run a script that looks everything up and removes the registrations.I'm having already a small idea of a way to perform the check, although notideal. Extracting the zones to a .txt file which a script can loop through
searching for certain strings. Ideal solution would be to look for server* records and delete them as they are being found. But as already indicated byother people, this is not available... At least not to our knowledge.
Another possible to solution is to review the DNS infrastructure, like for example aging. But, and it's not my choice, I have nothing to see with thatpart... Although I'm trying to find out if there is nobody interested in
adapting the DNS infra to make my life easier, but that rather working on the political road ;-)I could understand that it doesn't make a lot of sense, but that's the way ofworking at this moment. And I have to deal with it and try handle it the best
possible way. So in short: looking for a way to retrieve all records like *string* in DNS so I can remove them all and keep the DNS tidy...Best regards,BartOn 3/5/06, Al Mulnick 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It sounds like what you really want is to move those records to
another server.I don't recall if this is AD integrated or not, and if so,what the scope of those records is set to.However, setting up a second server and using zone transfer to that server (for backup purposes) is one
way to get all of the records in the zones into text files. You could alsouse WMI scripts/programs to cull that information or you could realize that if it is AD integrated that data exists elsewhere and that copying it off is
not what you want to do.One other method, which is very much a zonetransfer is to use the nslookup ls -d zonename command which puts that information to std i/o. Using dnscmd would be able to gather that information
as would a backup (either AD based (see above if that's what you need) orserver file based. If not AD-Integrated, you could just copy the zone files:)  Am I missing something you need to do?
 Al On 3/2/06, Bart Van den Wyngaert [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote:
 Well I kind of need a DNS query. We used to register our DNS records manually and also remove them. But in case the server is at the endof it's lifecycle, we shut it down for some weeks (in case of migration
scenario) and then remove all it's registrations. We're looking into a way that we don't need to power on the server again, but still are able to remove all DNS registrations (serveritself, cluster resources, ...). So it would be like a DNS query... But if
there is something in AD that we can use as reference... Something like an LDAP query for AD, but then on 

RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Rimmerman, Russ



repadmin /showreps for that DC says last replication @
(never). So this DC isn't replicating for some reason. Not sure why
yet, the subnet is defined properly and everything else looks
good.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:27 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


yes... on the DC that needs
the CO to replicate from. remember when looking on another DC, that object
(including the old deleted CO) still needs to replicate to the other
DCs


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 16:22To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

I see the problem, this remote DC has a "replicate from"
correctly but the replicate to was a different DC. I deleted the
replication link to that DC and now there's nothing in the "Replicate to" blank
for that DC. So it will repopulate within 15
minutes?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


Hi Russ,

The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots
and after that each 15 min..

The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and
that depends on the site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and
replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will
recreate them during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends
on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched
by the KCC

So, why do you think it is wrong or what
do you mean with "If you
promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication links"

jorge

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

If you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?

  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread neil.ruston



Russ,

Perhaps you should consider disabling the KCC within one or 
more sites, or forest-wide if this is a big issue.

Otherwise, I'd treat all DCs as equals and let the KCC 'do 
its thing' :)

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, 
RussSent: 08 March 2006 15:18To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically 
generated replication links

All our remote sites automatically pick the same DC at DHQ, 
but this site picked a DC that is our primary DNS server at DHQ for some 
reason. We've never had that DC be selected by the KCC before, and I'm not 
sure why it picked that one instead.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically 
generated replication links


Hi Russ,

The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots 
and after that each 15 min..

The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and 
that depends on the site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and 
replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will 
recreate them during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends 
on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched 
by the KCC

So, why do you think it is wrong or what 
do you mean with "If you 
promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right 
replication links"

jorge

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Automatically 
generated replication links

If you promote a new 
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication 
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually 
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to 
automatically generate it again?

  
  
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[ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]










http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/



Someone in my office just gave me a copy
of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat insert called the Active
Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall hanging that outlines all the
AD process graphically. I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, but I
just wanted to make you all aware of it. I plan to hang it on my cubical wall
on the outside that says What I do here J



Subscriptions are free.



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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Olivarez, Sergio J Mr ANOSC/FCBS








You might want to look
into using Active Directory Load Balancing tool (adlb.exe); Ive never
used the tool but it might help you control replication and the connection
objects. Personally, I would trust the KCC and let it do its jobJ 





Thanks... ... ... ...

Sergio J. Olivarez -
Contractor

GD-NS











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006
8:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Automatically generated replication links





Russ,



Perhaps you should consider disabling the
KCC within one or more sites, or forest-wide if this is a big issue.



Otherwise, I'd treat all DCs as equals and
let the KCC 'do its thing' :)



neil







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: 08 March 2006 15:18
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Automatically generated replication links

All our remote sites automatically pick
the same DC at DHQ, but this site picked a DC that is our primary DNS server at
DHQ for some reason. We've never had that DC be selected by the KCC
before, and I'm not sure why it picked that one instead.









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006
8:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Automatically generated replication links





Hi Russ,











The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots and after that each
15 min..











The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and that depends on the
site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and replicas hosting
partitions).





If you remove the CO manually, it will recreate them
during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends on what manual
COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched by the KCC











So, why do you think it is wrong or what do you mean with
If you promote a new domain controller and it doesn't
automatically generate the right replication links













jorge







From:
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Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links







If you promote a new domain controller and it doesn't
automatically generate the right replication links, is it safe or recommended
to delete the link it generated and manually create the replication link?
Or if you delete it will it try to automatically generate it again?






 
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread neil.ruston




"Subscriptions are free" -to those 
in the U.S. only :(


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd 
(NIH/CC/DNA) [E]Sent: 08 March 2006 16:00To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/

Someone in my office 
just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
insert called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall 
hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of it. 
I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here 
J

Subscriptions are free.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner



Hi Todd,

this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has 
contacts to the team to request a printable-file)?

Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping 
costs), and the web-version does not include the picture.

Gruesse - Sincerely, 
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 
 MVP-Book "Windows XP - Die Expertentipps": 
http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: 
http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org Profile:http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile="">


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd 
  (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 
  PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] 
  Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"
  
  
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
  
  Someone in my office 
  just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
  insert called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall 
  hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
  it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of 
  it. I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What 
  I do here J
  
  Subscriptions are 
  free.
  
  Todd


RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]








I am working on the Editors to post the
graphic. At least you can access the articles via the web.



Todd











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Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw





Subscriptions are free
-to those in the U.S. only :(









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Sent: 08 March 2006 16:00
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Technet
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http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/



Someone in my office just gave me a copy
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post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of it. I plan
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here J



Subscriptions are free.



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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]








You might try establishing a Preferred
Bridgehead server at the hub and spoke sites (Probably 2 is good), that should
allow you to control who is chosen for replication COs. Also you
might also consider DNS record weights if you would like to lower the priority of
the DCs running DDNS for other things like authentication. 



Todd Myrick











From: Olivarez, Sergio
J Mr ANOSC/FCBS [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006
11:07 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Automatically generated replication links





You might want to look
into using Active Directory Load Balancing tool (adlb.exe); Ive never
used the tool but it might help you control replication and the connection
objects. Personally, I would trust the KCC and let it do its jobJ 





Thanks... ... ... ...

Sergio J. Olivarez -
Contractor

GD-NS











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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006
8:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links





Russ,



Perhaps you should consider disabling the
KCC within one or more sites, or forest-wide if this is a big issue.



Otherwise, I'd treat all DCs as equals and
let the KCC 'do its thing' :)



neil







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Behalf Of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: 08 March 2006 15:18
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir]
Automatically generated replication links

All our remote sites automatically pick
the same DC at DHQ, but this site picked a DC that is our primary DNS server at
DHQ for some reason. We've never had that DC be selected by the KCC
before, and I'm not sure why it picked that one instead.









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Automatically generated replication links





Hi Russ,











The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots and after that each
15 min..











The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and that depends on the
site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and replicas hosting
partitions).





If you remove the CO manually, it will recreate them during
the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched by the KCC











So, why do you think it is wrong or what do you mean with
If you promote a new domain controller and it doesn't
automatically generate the right replication links













jorge







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Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links







If you promote a new domain controller and it doesn't
automatically generate the right replication links, is it safe or recommended
to delete the link it generated and manually create the replication link?
Or if you delete it will it try to automatically generate it again?






 
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Rob MOIR
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 Subscriptions are free - to those in the U.S. only :(
 

You know, I'm not convinced that microsoft really get the whole
international thing and the interweb.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
The link on our page is screwed up, and so is the TechTarget search
engine. I'll post a working link as soon as I find it.

-gil 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:58 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

A couple of weeks ago i 'attended' a webinar from NetPro called:

16 Steps to a Healthier and Happier Active Directory
http://www.netpro.com/company/events.cfm

It is a very good overview of the tasks involved in getting AD to smile.

It seems like the link from NetPro's website sends you to 
http://searchwindowssecurity.bitpipe.com/webcasts but i don't see it 
archived there ... maybe Gil can chime in with a location?

Slides here:

http://www.netpro.com/forum/files/Sixteen_Simple_Steps.pdf

good luck,

john

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 Before I embarked on a Google search, I thought I might get some
opinions 
 from this list. 
 
 What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to
clean up 
 an AD infrastructure? 
 
 I can go into more detail if anyone is interested...basically all of
our 
 DC's have tons of warnings and errors in the event logs. 
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread Rimmerman, Russ



It's odd, the replicate FROM is different than the
replicate TO on these two DCs. Every other DC we've deployed to date is
the same DC for both from and two (always the same DC for all) and these two
decided to pick something different.


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:27 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


yes... on the DC that needs
the CO to replicate from. remember when looking on another DC, that object
(including the old deleted CO) still needs to replicate to the other
DCs


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 16:22To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

I see the problem, this remote DC has a "replicate from"
correctly but the replicate to was a different DC. I deleted the
replication link to that DC and now there's nothing in the "Replicate to" blank
for that DC. So it will repopulate within 15
minutes?


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AMTo:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links


Hi Russ,

The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots
and after that each 15 min..

The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and
that depends on the site and replication topology, partitions to replicate and
replicas hosting partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will
recreate them during the next KCC cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends
on what manual COs have been created. Manual created COs will never be touched
by the KCC

So, why do you think it is wrong or what
do you mean with "If you
promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication links"

jorge

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on
behalf of Rimmerman, RussSent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50To:
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Automatically
generated replication links

If you promote a new
domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right replication
links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it generated and manually
create the replication link? Or if you delete it will it try to
automatically generate it again?

  
  
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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Wyatt, David
Title: Message




Hi 
Paul, do you use the disk snapshots to provide the ability to restore an object 
or the whole DC (and therefore the whole Active Directory database), or both?



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On Behalf Of PAUL MAYESSent: 08 Mar 2006 13:13To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag 
Sites

  /lurker
  
  Hi All,
  
  Forgive me a second whilst I ramble on 'cos thisIS going to be a 
  ramble, then shoot me down in flames at the end!
  
  The problem with DR is getting the data from somewhere. Typically we go 
  back to tape, which depending on when the last successful backup took place 
  gives you a bit of a wide window to play with. Not good if you're going back 
  some 24 hours/days etc...
  
  To get better coverage of times we kicked about with lag sites. Trouble 
  is, and this has already been noted, replication and timings can scupper the 
  intentions of lag sites and where do you stop. Is one enough, is one for every 
  hour of the day enough?
  
  Microsoft released this white paper on fast recovery with AD using SAN's 
  and disk imaging. 
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/windowsserver2003/technologies/activedirectory/W2K3ActDirFastRec.mspx
  
  Now, I'm currently playing with using Microsoft's in-built disk 
  snapshotting to provide something similar. So on a pure DC server I've set it 
  up to snapsnot it's disks everyhour. And then I get to chose which hour 
  that I go back to and use as my recovered backup. After all it's the same tech 
  that's used when you actually do a backup.
  
  No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore 
  from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you can only 
  snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a few DC's then you 
  can get much better coverage than lag sites without the need for more DC's or 
  creative subnetting.
  
  Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far   playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple lag 
  sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it might stimulate 
  some discussion. 
  
  Oh and I realise that this is way far from perfect.
  
  Curious to know if anyone has done this or thought about it if nothing 
  else.
  
  
  Paul.
  
  Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]Mon, 06 Mar 2006 15:35:36 -0800
  I also said, I have to spend my time and money wisely. I am well aware of why people use lag-sites.  They always like to throw the   money issue around... but I wonder what the TCO is really.  Maybe these
 major   AD DR players should commission a study heck maybe MSFT should for both AD   and Exchange Mailboxes. I think you would do better to encourage new Admins to make sure they do a MFT   backup of a domain controllers system state each night, then stand-up more   sites and servers.  Then based on need select the restore method and evaluate   the results. I agree knowing how all the inner workings does help as well, but operations   people are usually not engineers, so it is best to give them tools that have   some workflow, and makes the operation smooth and less error prone. Thanks again,  Todd  


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RE: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
16 Steps to a Healthier and Happier Active Directory is archived here:

http://event.on24.com/eventRegistration/EventLobbyServlet?target=lobby.j
speventid=17740sessionid=1partnerref=swsc_sitepost_02_14_06key=F2F27
A63A35B4F457FECDA9201B08DBAeventuserid=5675189

And the slides are at
http://www.netpro.com/forum/files/Sixteen_Simple_Steps.pdf

-gil

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Singler
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 7:58 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

A couple of weeks ago i 'attended' a webinar from NetPro called:

16 Steps to a Healthier and Happier Active Directory
http://www.netpro.com/company/events.cfm

It is a very good overview of the tasks involved in getting AD to smile.

It seems like the link from NetPro's website sends you to 
http://searchwindowssecurity.bitpipe.com/webcasts but i don't see it 
archived there ... maybe Gil can chime in with a location?

Slides here:

http://www.netpro.com/forum/files/Sixteen_Simple_Steps.pdf

good luck,

john

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 AD Gurus, 
 
 Before I embarked on a Google search, I thought I might get some
opinions 
 from this list. 
 
 What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to
clean up 
 an AD infrastructure? 
 
 I can go into more detail if anyone is interested...basically all of
our 
 DC's have tons of warnings and errors in the event logs. 
 
 Thanks, 
 
 Jbl
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread bonnie.pohlschneider



As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the 
questions stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in 
your company.

Bonnie


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
Simon-WeidnerSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

Hi Todd,

this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has 
contacts to the team to request a printable-file)?

Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping 
costs), and the web-version does not include the picture.

Gruesse - Sincerely, 
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 
 MVP-Book "Windows XP - Die Expertentipps": 
http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: 
http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org Profile:http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile="">


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd 
  (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 
  PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] 
  Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"
  
  
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
  
  Someone in my office 
  just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
  insert called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall 
  hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
  it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of 
  it. I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What 
  I do here J
  
  Subscriptions are 
  free.
  
  Todd


RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links

2006-03-08 Thread deji
Russ,
 
you are making a big deal out of nothing. Stop worrying yourself sick. IF KCC
built a CO for this DC, KCC thinks that's the most optimal CO possible at
that point. It is not mandatory that the CO should be reciprocal. If you are
not please with what KCC did, then delete its work and create your own. KCC
will not mess with creating another one if the DC is replicating optimally.
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wed 3/8/2006 7:51 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


It's odd, the replicate FROM is different than the replicate TO on these two
DCs.  Every other DC we've deployed to date is the same DC for both from and
two (always the same DC for all) and these two decided to pick something
different.



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge
de
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 9:27 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


yes... on the DC that needs the CO to replicate from. remember when looking
on another DC, that object (including the old deleted CO) still needs to
replicate to the other DCs



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 16:22
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


I see the problem, this remote DC has a replicate from correctly but the
replicate to was a different DC.  I deleted the replication link to that DC
and now there's nothing in the Replicate to blank for that DC.  So it will
repopulate within 15 minutes?



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge
de
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 8:56 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


Hi Russ,
 
The KCC runs 5 mins after the DC boots and after that each 15 min..
 
The KCC creates CO as it sees fit (and that depends on the site and
replication topology, partitions to replicate and replicas hosting
partitions).
If you remove the CO manually, it will recreate them during the next KCC
cycle. The creation of auto COs also depends on what manual COs have been
created. Manual created COs will never be touched by the KCC
 
So, why do you think it is wrong or what do you mean with If you promote a
new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate the right
replication links
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Rimmerman, Russ
Sent: Wed 2006-03-08 15:50
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Automatically generated replication links


If you promote a new domain controller and it doesn't automatically generate
the right replication links, is it safe or recommended to delete the link it
generated and manually create the replication link?  Or if you delete it will
it try to automatically generate it again?
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RE: [ActiveDir] Cleaning Up AD

2006-03-08 Thread deji
 What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to clean up
an AD infrastructure?
It depends. If I am in a hurry, I just put it in my trunk and go to the
nearest drive-through car wash. If I have time on my hand, I drive it to the
friendly neighborhood Laundromat. Either way, it comes back clean.
 
OK, a smiley should go here. The point is Clean AD is as vague as vague
could be. What do you want to clean today?
 
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AD Gurus, 

Before I embarked on a Google search, I thought I might get some opinions
from this list. 

What resources (utils, whitepapers etc) have people been using to clean up an
AD infrastructure? 

I can go into more detail if anyone is interested...basically all of our DC's
have tons of warnings and errors in the event logs. 

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Wyatt, David

What MS paper?


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The MS paper illustrates a way to achieve this without the USN issue. 

neil

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PAUL MAYES wrote:

(...)

  
 No need for a lag site, just pick the hour on the timeline and restore

 from that DC. Ok so it means that you might need bigger disk and you
 can only snapshot down to 30mins. But if you're a bit creative with a 
 few DC's then you can get much better coverage than lag sites without 
 the need for more DC's or creative subnetting.
  
 Now I'm going to stand back and be shot down in flames. But thus far
 playing with VSS is kind of casting doubt on plans for one or multiple

 lag sites. I'm not going to bore with the how's and where's but it
 might stimulate some discussion.

(...)

You can't use images or snapshots as a backup\recovery solutions for DC
because You are risking getting into USN roll-back problem. Search
through ActivDir.org archives for USN roll-back and You will find good
explanation of this problem.


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[ActiveDir] Vista GPO article

2006-03-08 Thread Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]
http://www.windowsdevcenter.com/pub/a/windows/2006/03/07/group-policy-in
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Nathan Kline



I received the same foldout and have already made a scan 
into JPG format of it. Contact me off list if you are 
interested.


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Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"


I am working on the 
Editors to post the graphic. At least you can access the articles via the 
web.

Todd





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"Subscriptions are 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Vista GPO article

2006-03-08 Thread ai-chung_chong
More detail information from Microsoft: Managing Group Policy ADMX Files Step 
by Step Guide.doc 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/info.aspx?na=46p=3SrcDisplayLang=enSrcCategoryId=SrcFamilyId=311f4be8-9983-4ab0-9685-f1bfec1e7d62u=http%3a%2f%2fdownload.microsoft.com%2fdownload%2f3%2fb%2fa%2f3ba6d659-6e39-4cd7-b3a2-9c96482f5353%2fManaging+Group+Policy+ADMX+Files+Step+by+Step+Guide.docoRef=http%3a%2f%2fwww.microsoft.com%2fdownloads%2fresults.aspx%3ffreetext%3d%26productID%3d%26categoryId%3d%26period%3d30%26sortCriteria%3ddate%26nr%3d20%26DisplayLang%3den%26type%3da
 

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[ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Harding, Devon








Whats the fast way for me to create 200 user accounts
in specific OUs and create Exchange mailboxes?



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RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Kennedy, Jim



Delegate it to HR.

Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the 
names and script it, provide a default password of their SS number 
perhaps...must be changed on first log on.

After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them 
in ADUC and right click them and send them a test email to create the 
mailbox.



  
  
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  Import
  
  
  Whats the fast way for me to 
  create 200 user accounts in specific OUs and create Exchange 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Kennedy, Jim



Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go 
to separate OU's. Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and create 
the mailbox then mass send them an email.

The script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual 
drag and drop. So your spreadsheet of users is:

firstname 
lastname password 
targetOU

convert that to comma text for your script and use the 
first three for the creation and then the first two and last for the 
move.

  
  
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  JimSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:16 PMTo: 
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  Import
  
  Delegate it to HR.
  
  Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the 
  names and script it, provide a default password of their SS number 
  perhaps...must be changed on first log on.
  
  After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them 
  in ADUC and right click them and send them a test email to create the 
  mailbox.
  
  
  


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Import


Whats the fast way for me to 
create 200 user accounts in specific OUs and create Exchange 
mailboxes?

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Harding
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Myrick, Todd \(NIH/CC/DNA\) [E]








Please send a copy my way.



Thanks,



Todd











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I received the same foldout and have
already made a scan into JPG format of it. Contact me off list if you are
interested.









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I am working on the Editors to post the
graphic. At least you can access the articles via the web.



Todd











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Subscriptions are free
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Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Al Mulnick
I suppose it really depends on your input data. What have you got to work with and what is the decision criteria for the OU differences? 

Creating the objects in a particular OU and mailbox enabling them would not be terribly difficult depending on the information you have and want to put in there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to put them where they belong at creation vs. later. For that reason either one of Joe's tools (admod for example) or script would be my preference. Script would be mine but that's just because I'm funny like that. Joe's tools are faster though both at runtime and to get working if you don't have scripts laying around. 


Al
On 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go to separate OU's. Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and create the mailbox then mass send them an email.


The script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. So your spreadsheet of users is:

firstname lastname password targetOU

convert that to comma text for your script and use the first three for the creation and then the first two and last for the move.




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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import


Delegate it to HR.

Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the names and script it, provide a default password of their SS number perhaps...must be changed on first log on.


After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and right click them and send them a test email to create the mailbox.






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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import


What's the fast way for me to create 200 user accounts in specific OU's and create Exchange mailboxes?

Devon
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RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Harding, Devon








I was going to user csvde, but read that
it did not support password creation. Is this supported under ADMod?











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Behalf Of Al Mulnick
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4:22 PM
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Import







I suppose it really depends on your input data.
What have you got to work with and what is the decision criteria for the OU
differences? 











Creating the objects in a particular OU and mailbox
enabling them would not be terribly difficult depending on the information you
have and want to put in there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to
put them where they belong at creation vs. later. For that reason either
one of Joe's tools (admod for example) or script would be my preference.
Script would be mine but that's just because I'm funny like that. Joe's tools
are faster though both at runtime and to get working if you don't have scripts
laying around. 











Al







On 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 



Ok, I skipped a step,
sounds like you need these 200 to go to separate OU's. Mass create them in one
OU, mass right click them and create the mailbox then mass send them an email. 



The script the move if
that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. So your spreadsheet of users
is:



firstname
lastname password
targetOU



convert that to comma
text for your script and use the first three for the creation and then the
first two and last for the move. 











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[mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006
2:16 PM




To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org





Subject:
RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import











Delegate it to HR.



Short of that get HR or
someone to give you a list of the names and script it, provide a default
password of their SS number perhaps...must be changed on first log on. 



After they are created,
in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and right click them and send them a
test email to create the mailbox. 















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[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On
Behalf Of Harding, Devon
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2:02 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import





What's the fast way for me to create 200 user
accounts in specific OU's and create Exchange mailboxes?



Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

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Re: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-08 Thread Tomasz Onyszko

Wyatt, David wrote:

What MS paper?


http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64DB845D-F7A3-4209-8ED2-E261A117FC6Bdisplaylang=en

At the end of this document You will find information how to do this. As 
Jorge pointed today on our chat on IM this document is not addressing 
potential SYSVOL issue after such restore so BurFlags should come into play:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290762

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RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread deji
What is your input? Where are you getting the input from, and what format is
it in? Al mentioned some script laying around. I may have one stuck in one of
my couches here :)
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Harding, Devon
Sent: Wed 3/8/2006 1:37 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import



I was going to user csvde, but read that it did not support password
creation.  Is this supported under ADMod?

 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

 

I suppose it really depends on your input data.  What have you got to work
with and what is the decision criteria for the OU differences? 

 

Creating the objects in a particular OU and mailbox enabling them would not
be terribly difficult depending on the information you have and want to put
in there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to put them where they
belong at creation vs. later.  For that reason either one of Joe's tools
(admod for example) or script would be my preference.  Script would be mine
but that's just because I'm funny like that. Joe's tools are faster though
both at runtime and to get working if you don't have scripts laying around. 

 

Al

 

On 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go to separate OU's.
Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and create the mailbox then
mass send them an email. 

 

The script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. So
your spreadsheet of users is:

 

firstname  lastname password  targetOU

 

convert that to comma text for your script and use the first three for the
creation and then the first two and last for the move. 

 





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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

 

Delegate it to HR.

 

Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the names and script
it, provide a default password of their SS number perhaps...must be changed
on first log on. 

 

After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and right
click them and send them a test email to create the mailbox. 

 

 

 





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What's the fast way for me to create 200 user accounts in specific
OU's and create Exchange mailboxes?

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 





 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Nathan Kline



:) Due to the large amount of requests, I've uploaded 
this toweb space. :) This link should take you to the 
image.

http://home.wmis.net/~nkline/adjig.html

Nathan





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I received the same foldout and have already made a scan into JPG format 
of it. Contact me off list if you are interested.


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I am working on the 
Editors to post the graphic. At least you can access the articles via the 
web.

Todd





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"Subscriptions are 
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Someone in my office 
just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
insert called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall 
hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of it. 
I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here 
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Subscriptions are 
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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Lee, Wook
Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

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If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

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Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Ni! Ni! Ni! 

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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
One that looks nice. 

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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
And not too expensive. 

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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Parris
It is a good shrubbery. I like the laurels particularly, but there is one
small problem.

Ekky ekky ekky ekky-z' Bang, zoom Boing, z'nourrrwringmm
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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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[ActiveDir] ADMT v3 implementation questions

2006-03-08 Thread Joe Lagreca
I got ADMT running in a test environment, but now have a few problems.

Problem #1

When I use the wizard to migrate a computer from the source domain to
the target, I then have the same machine account in both domains. 
Making it impossible for the target domain to access the shares of the
workstation in the source domain.  I have experienced this problem,
and found it documented here:

http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBJ/tip4600/rh4655.htm

 4655 » Logon Failure error when accessing a child domain controller from the 
 parent domain? 08-Jan-02

 When you attempt to access a child domain controller from the parent domain, 
 you receive:

  Logon Failure: The target account name is incorrect.

  This error will occur if a computer in the parent domain has the same 
 computer name as a computer in the child domain.

  To resolve the problem, rename one of the computers.

  NOTE: If the computer no longer exists, delete it's machine account.


If I delete the the newly migrated computer from the target domain, I
can then access the shares on the workstation in the source domain. 
Anyone have an idea of how I can get around this limitation?  I don't
think it is possible to remove the workstation from the source domain
yet, as it hasn't had the agent dispatched to it to change its domain
ownership.

Problem #2

Even though I have already added the opposite Domain Admins group to
the local Administrator group of each machine, I don't appear to have
admin rights across the trust between domains.

One example is that the target domain cannot access the Admin$ share
of the workstation in the source domain.

If I go to the source domain workstation and add the administrator of
the target domain to the local Administrator group of the workstation,
I can then access the Admin$ share and dispatch the ADMT agent to the
workstation.

Since this is not practical in a widespread migration, I need to
figure out how to get administrative privileges across the trust
between domains.

Thanks.

Joe
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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Lee, Wook
With two SBS servers you get the two-level effect with a little path
running down the middle.

Easier than cutting down the mightiest tree in the forest with 

A HERRING!

Wook

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And not too expensive. 

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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

Alex Alborzfard

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RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Mark Parris
Then, when you have found the shrubbery, you must cut down the mightiest
tree in the forest... Wiithh  A HERRING!

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It is a good shrubbery. I like the laurels particularly, but there is one
small problem.

Ekky ekky ekky ekky-z' Bang, zoom Boing, z'nourrrwringmm
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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

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And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

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Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
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If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

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Alex
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 

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Re: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

2006-03-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Awww... that's nice to hear   :-)

Psssttt.You guys realize you don't have to butter me up to answer 
SBS questions.I've said before that I'm a terrible lurker and if 
there's an SBS box in trouble I'm pouncing and seeing if I can help.




Gil Kirkpatrick wrote:

One that looks nice. 


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Importance: Low

Dare I suggest a shrubbery? ;-)

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

And remember we are a single DC/Forest... so we're more like a tree
than a
forest.

;-)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:43 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

If you consider flattening the box and reinstalling reasonable.  :-)

Remember it's got Exchange on a DC which means a rename is not supported
along with an integrated Sharepoint.


In MVPdom where we don't care about such things and sometimes we do it
just
to see if you can, you have to rip out a lot of stuff and even then
there is
'weirdness' left over in the event logs.  Thus it's really not for
production machines that you care about at all.

We recommend that the domain is not named in a manner that you care
about
renaming it later.

Remember you can always CEICW (run the wizard) and redo the Exchange
name
with no issues.

-Original Message-
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alborzfard,
Alex
Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:21 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] SBS 2003 Domain/Forest Rename

This question is for Susan - SBS Goddess - but feel free to respond if
you know the answer. Can a SBS 2003 domain/forest be renamed? If so,
what's the best/recommended practice in doing it?

TIA 


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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido



wow, what a hurdle ;-)


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Mittwoch, 8. März 
2006 17:53To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component 
Jigsaw"

As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the 
questions stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in 
your company.

Bonnie


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
Simon-WeidnerSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

Hi Todd,

this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has 
contacts to the team to request a printable-file)?

Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping 
costs), and the web-version does not include the picture.

Gruesse - Sincerely, 
Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 
 MVP-Book "Windows XP - Die Expertentipps": 
http://tinyurl.com/44zcz Weblog: 
http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org Profile:http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile="">


  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, Todd 
  (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 
  PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] 
  Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"
  
  
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
  
  Someone in my office 
  just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
  insert called the “Active Directory Component Jigsaw”. It is a wall 
  hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
  it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of 
  it. I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says “What 
  I do here” J
  
  Subscriptions are 
  free.
  
  Todd


RE: [ActiveDir] ADMT v3 implementation questions

2006-03-08 Thread deji
For #1, you are apparently not migrating with SIDHistory. If you have a
problem with SIDHistory and don't want to use it, then you will have to wait
until you have migrated everything and repermissioned the resources before
you can access resources. 
 
For #2, try http://www.akomolafe.com/TechStuff/Scripts/tabid/63/Default.aspx
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joe Lagreca
Sent: Wed 3/8/2006 2:35 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] ADMT v3 implementation questions



I got ADMT running in a test environment, but now have a few problems.

Problem #1

When I use the wizard to migrate a computer from the source domain to
the target, I then have the same machine account in both domains.
Making it impossible for the target domain to access the shares of the
workstation in the source domain.  I have experienced this problem,
and found it documented here:

http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBJ/tip4600/rh4655.htm

 4655 » Logon Failure error when accessing a child domain controller from
the parent domain? 08-Jan-02

 When you attempt to access a child domain controller from the parent
domain, you receive:

  Logon Failure: The target account name is incorrect.

  This error will occur if a computer in the parent domain has the same
computer name as a computer in the child domain.

  To resolve the problem, rename one of the computers.

  NOTE: If the computer no longer exists, delete it's machine account.


If I delete the the newly migrated computer from the target domain, I
can then access the shares on the workstation in the source domain.
Anyone have an idea of how I can get around this limitation?  I don't
think it is possible to remove the workstation from the source domain
yet, as it hasn't had the agent dispatched to it to change its domain
ownership.

Problem #2

Even though I have already added the opposite Domain Admins group to
the local Administrator group of each machine, I don't appear to have
admin rights across the trust between domains.

One example is that the target domain cannot access the Admin$ share
of the workstation in the source domain.

If I go to the source domain workstation and add the administrator of
the target domain to the local Administrator group of the workstation,
I can then access the Admin$ share and dispatch the ADMT agent to the
workstation.

Since this is not practical in a widespread migration, I need to
figure out how to get administrative privileges across the trust
between domains.

Thanks.

Joe
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[ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread Figueroa, Johnny

I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I look a the
properties of that DNS zone and go to the Name Servers tab, I see a
few servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. Those
servers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a trust
with.

I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS records for
that zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to Dynamic updates,
secure Only.

I could and will delete those records but I am thinking those records
will come back. The name servers in question do NOT show up with * on
the IP address, which could be the result of a query.

Ideas?

Thanks

Johnny Figueroa
Enterprise Network Consultant/Integrator
Network Services Banner Health Voice (602)
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Brett Shirley
I'm definately not responsible for purchasing of IT products at my
company, oh well guess I'm not influential enough to justify a free
subscription of the magazine.

Sigh.
-B


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

 wow, what a hurdle ;-)
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL 
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 Sent: Mittwoch, 8. M?rz 2006 17:53
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw
 
 
 As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the questions 
 stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in your 
 company.
  
 Bonnie
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
 Simon-Weidner
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw
 
 
 Hi Todd,
  
 this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has contacts to the 
 team to request a printable-file)?
  
 Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping costs), and the 
 web-version does not include the picture.
  
 
 Gruesse - Sincerely, 
 
 Ulf B. Simon-Weidner 
 
   MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz 
 http://tinyurl.com/44zcz 
   Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner 
 http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner 
   Website: http://www.windowsserverfaq.org http://www.windowsserverfaq.org/ 
   Profile:   
 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214C811D 
 http://mvp.support.microsoft.com/profile=35E388DE-4885-4308-B489-F2F1214C811D
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Myrick, 
 Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 PM
   To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
   Subject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component 
 Jigsaw
   
   
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
 

 
   Someone in my office just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it 
 came with the really neat insert called the Active Directory Component 
 Jigsaw.  It is a wall hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically.  
 I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you 
 all aware of it.  I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that 
 says What I do here :-)
 

 
   Subscriptions are free.
 

 
   Todd
 
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
what is the replication scope of the zone?
 
if it is:
DC within domain OR DC/DNS servers within domain then someone must have added 
them manually. Before removing them try finding out who added them and more 
important WHY?
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Figueroa, Johnny
Sent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:17
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Name Server records




I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I look a the
properties of that DNS zone and go to the Name Servers tab, I see a
few servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. Those
servers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a trust
with.

I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS records for
that zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to Dynamic updates,
secure Only.

I could and will delete those records but I am thinking those records
will come back. The name servers in question do NOT show up with * on
the IP address, which could be the result of a query.

Ideas?

Thanks

Johnny Figueroa
Enterprise Network Consultant/Integrator
Network Services Banner Health Voice (602)
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RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread Figueroa, Johnny
Title: [ActiveDir] Name Server records



It is a DC/DNS and it replicates to the forest which is 
actually just one domain. 

That's just it, I don't see how or why anybody would go in 
there and add them. There are only a few people that have the access to do that 
and adding those records just does not make sense.

Thanks




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:28To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server 
records


what is the replication 
scope of the zone?

if it is:
DC within domain OR DC/DNS servers within 
domain then someone must have added them manually. Before removing them try 
finding out who added them and more important WHY?

jorge


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of Figueroa, JohnnySent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:17To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Name Server 
records

I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I 
look a theproperties of that DNS zone and go to the "Name Servers" tab, I 
see afew servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. 
Thoseservers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a 
trustwith.I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS 
records forthat zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to "Dynamic 
updates","secure Only".I could and will delete those records but I 
am thinking those recordswill come back. The name servers in question do NOT 
show up with "*" onthe IP address, which could be the result of a 
query.Ideas?ThanksJohnny FigueroaEnterprise Network 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread Charlie Kaiser
Are there secondary DNS zones for your domain set up in the other
domains that have the trust? Someone may have set it up so they could
resolve names in your domain from the trusted domain...

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Figueroa, Johnny
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 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records
 
 It is a DC/DNS and it replicates to the forest which is 
 actually just one domain. 
  
 That's just it, I don't see how or why anybody would go in 
 there and add them. There are only a few people that have the 
 access to do that and adding those records just does not make sense.
  
 Thanks
  
  
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:28
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records
 
 
 what is the replication scope of the zone?
  
 if it is:
 DC within domain OR DC/DNS servers within domain then someone 
 must have added them manually. Before removing them try 
 finding out who added them and more important WHY?
  
 jorge
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Figueroa, Johnny
 Sent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:17
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] Name Server records
 
 
 
 
 I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I 
 look a the
 properties of that DNS zone and go to the Name Servers tab, I see a
 few servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. Those
 servers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a trust
 with.
 
 I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS records for
 that zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to Dynamic updates,
 secure Only.
 
 I could and will delete those records but I am thinking those records
 will come back. The name servers in question do NOT show up 
 with * on
 the IP address, which could be the result of a query.
 
 Ideas?
 
 Thanks
 
 Johnny Figueroa
 Enterprise Network Consultant/Integrator
 Network Services Banner Health Voice (602)
 495-4195 Fax (602) 495-4406
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread David Adner
Title: [ActiveDir] Name Server records



One guess is you're using zone transfers with the option 
"Allow only servers on name servers tab" (or whatever it's called) and the 
person who set this up added the DNS server in question.

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Figueroa, 
  JohnnySent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:39 PMTo: 
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  records
  
  It is a DC/DNS and it replicates to the forest which is 
  actually just one domain. 
  
  That's just it, I don't see how or why anybody would go 
  in there and add them. There are only a few people that have the access to do 
  that and adding those records just does not make sense.
  
  Thanks
  
  
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
  Jorge deSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:28To: 
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  records
  
  
  what is the replication 
  scope of the zone?
  
  if it is:
  DC within domain OR DC/DNS servers 
  within domain then someone must have added them manually. Before removing them 
  try finding out who added them and more important WHY?
  
  jorge
  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
  behalf of Figueroa, JohnnySent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:17To: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Name Server 
  records
  
  I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I 
  look a theproperties of that DNS zone and go to the "Name Servers" tab, I 
  see afew servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. 
  Thoseservers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a 
  trustwith.I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as 
  NS records forthat zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to "Dynamic 
  updates","secure Only".I could and will delete those records but I 
  am thinking those recordswill come back. The name servers in question do 
  NOT show up with "*" onthe IP address, which could be the result of a 
  query.Ideas?ThanksJohnny FigueroaEnterprise 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Ed Crowley [MVP]
They didn't say *what* company.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Jigsaw

I'm definately not responsible for purchasing of IT products at my company,
oh well guess I'm not influential enough to justify a free subscription of
the magazine.

Sigh.
-B


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

 wow, what a hurdle ;-)
 
 
 
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 Sent: Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 17:53
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Jigsaw
 
 
 As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the questions
stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in your
company.
  
 Bonnie
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
 Simon-Weidner
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AM
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Jigsaw
 
 
 Hi Todd,
  
 this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has contacts to
the team to request a printable-file)?
  
 Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping costs), and the
web-version does not include the picture.
  
 
 Gruesse - Sincerely,
 
 Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 
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   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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(NIH/CC/DNA) [E]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 PM
   To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
   Subject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
   
   
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
 

 
   Someone in my office just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and 
 it came with the really neat insert called the Active Directory 
 Component Jigsaw.  It is a wall hanging that outlines all the AD 
 process graphically.  I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, 
 but I just wanted to make you all aware of it.  I plan to hang it on 
 my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here :-)
 

 
   Subscriptions are free.
 

 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Scans would be a Good Thingtm... 

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:24 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

They didn't say *what* company.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

I'm definately not responsible for purchasing of IT products at my company, oh 
well guess I'm not influential enough to justify a free subscription of the 
magazine.

Sigh.
-B


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

 wow, what a hurdle ;-)
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 17:53
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
 
 
 As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the 
 questions
stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in your 
company.
  
 Bonnie
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
 Simon-Weidner
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
 
 
 Hi Todd,
  
 this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has contacts 
 to
the team to request a printable-file)?
  
 Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping costs), and the
web-version does not include the picture.
  
 
 Gruesse - Sincerely,
 
 Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 
   MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz
http://tinyurl.com/44zcz 
   Weblog: http://msmvps.org/UlfBSimonWeidner
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(NIH/CC/DNA) [E]
   Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:00 PM
   To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
   Subject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
   
   
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
 

 
   Someone in my office just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and 
 it came with the really neat insert called the Active Directory 
 Component Jigsaw.  It is a wall hanging that outlines all the AD 
 process graphically.  I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, 
 but I just wanted to make you all aware of it.  I plan to hang it on 
 my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here :-)
 

 
   Subscriptions are free.
 

 
   Todd
 
 

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Re: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
...suddenly I get this image of a patent/trademark/business license, etc 
being filed for H. Bunnies LLC.


Ed Crowley [MVP] wrote:


They didn't say *what* company.

Ed Crowley MCSE+Internet MVP
Freelance E-Mail Philosopher
Protecting the world from PSTs and Bricked Backups!™

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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 3:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw

I'm definately not responsible for purchasing of IT products at my company,
oh well guess I'm not influential enough to justify a free subscription of
the magazine.

Sigh.
-B


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

 


wow, what a hurdle ;-)



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Jigsaw
 


As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the questions
   


stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in your
company.
 



Bonnie



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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AM
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Jigsaw
 


Hi Todd,

this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has contacts to
   


the team to request a printable-file)?
 



Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping costs), and the
   


web-version does not include the picture.
 




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Jigsaw
 





 http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/

	 

	Someone in my office just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and 
it came with the really neat insert called the Active Directory 
Component Jigsaw.  It is a wall hanging that outlines all the AD 
process graphically.  I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-08 Thread joe
Come on Brett, I know you have at some point purchased some soda or sugary
substance that you consumed while at work. IT runs on that stuff, if
Mountain Dew, Coca-Cola, Snickers, MMs, and Twizzlers ceased to exist IT
would crumble away as most of the folks fell over asleep.


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Jigsaw

I'm definately not responsible for purchasing of IT products at my company,
oh well guess I'm not influential enough to justify a free subscription of
the magazine.

Sigh.
-B


On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Grillenmeier, Guido wrote:

 wow, what a hurdle ;-)
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Mittwoch, 8. März 2006 17:53
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
 
 
 As an addition, the only way that it's free is if you answer the questions
stating that you are responsible for the purchasing of IT products in your
company.
  
 Bonnie
 
 
 
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ulf B. 
 Simon-Weidner
 Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:15 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
 
 
 Hi Todd,
  
 this would rock if you are able to scan it (or somebody has contacts to
the team to request a printable-file)?
  
 Subscriptions are only free for US Residents (shipping costs), and the
web-version does not include the picture.
  
 
 Gruesse - Sincerely,
 
 Ulf B. Simon-Weidner
 
   MVP-Book Windows XP - Die Expertentipps: http://tinyurl.com/44zcz
http://tinyurl.com/44zcz 
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Jigsaw
   
   
 
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/
 

 
   Someone in my office just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and 
 it came with the really neat insert called the Active Directory 
 Component Jigsaw.  It is a wall hanging that outlines all the AD 
 process graphically.  I will try to scan it and post it on my Blog, 
 but I just wanted to make you all aware of it.  I plan to hang it on 
 my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here :-)
 

 
   Subscriptions are free.
 

 
   Todd
 
 

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Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Al Mulnick
If not, ldifde will let you create passwords if you want to go that route but mailboxes would be harder to deal with it. ADMOD will not mailbox enable the objects. For that you'd want to pipe it to exchmbx. 

I'd tell everyone what the input is and ask Deji to look through his couches (couches? As in more than one?) for a useful script. Or you *could* use something like shameless Microsoft plug (as if they need it here) MSN Search or Google to find such scripts pre-written that you could modify. 


Couple of options anyway. People that use CSVDE tend to then use a script to set the passwords on those objects that get created. LDIFDE would be more flexible for what you're trying to do, but I've never tried to do it with that tool. My preference would be script instead. 

I'd call Deji and ask him to search his couches (is it really two? I feel like I'm hung up on that for some reason :)



On 3/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your input? Where are you getting the input from, and what format isit in? Al mentioned some script laying around. I may have one stuck in one of
my couches here :)Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCTMicrosoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.comDo you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried aboutYesterday?-anonFrom: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 on behalf of Harding, DevonSent: Wed 3/8/2006 1:37 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk ImportI was going to user csvde, but read that it did not support password
creation.Is this supported under ADMod?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:22 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import
I suppose it really depends on your input data.What have you got to workwith and what is the decision criteria for the OU differences?Creating the objects in a particular OU and mailbox enabling them would not
be terribly difficult depending on the information you have and want to putin there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to put them where theybelong at creation vs. later.For that reason either one of Joe's tools
(admod for example) or script would be my preference.Script would be minebut that's just because I'm funny like that. Joe's tools are faster thoughboth at runtime and to get working if you don't have scripts laying around.
AlOn 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go to separate OU's.
Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and create the mailbox thenmass send them an email.The script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. Soyour spreadsheet of users is:
firstnamelastname passwordtargetOUconvert that to comma text for your script and use the first three for thecreation and then the first two and last for the move.
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:16 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk ImportDelegate it to HR.Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the names and script
it, provide a default password of their SS number perhaps...must be changedon first log on.After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and rightclick them and send them a test email to create the mailbox.
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:02 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subject: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import What's the fast way for me to create 200 user accounts in specific
OU's and create Exchange mailboxes? Devon Harding Windows Systems Engineer Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG 954-602-2469
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RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-08 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner



If you mention google after MSN Search you have to turn off 
the shamless plug.
;-)

  
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al 
  MulnickSent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:26 AMTo: 
  ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk 
  Import
  
  If not, ldifde will let you create passwords if you want to go that route 
  but mailboxes would be harder to deal with it. ADMOD will not mailbox 
  enable the objects. For that you'd want to pipe it to exchmbx. 
  
  I'd tell everyone what the input is and ask Deji to look through his 
  couches (couches? As in more than one?) for a useful script. Or you 
  *could* use something like shameless Microsoft plug (as if they need it 
  here) MSN Search or Google to find such scripts pre-written that you could 
  modify. 
  
  Couple of options anyway. People that use CSVDE tend to then use a script 
  to set the passwords on those objects that get created. LDIFDE would be more 
  flexible for what you're trying to do, but I've never tried to do it with that 
  tool. My preference would be script instead. 
  I'd call Deji and ask him to search his couches (is it really two? I feel 
  like I'm hung up on that for some reason :)
  
  
  
  On 3/8/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  What 
is your input? Where are you getting the input from, and what format 
isit in? Al mentioned some script laying around. I may have one stuck in 
one of my couches here :)Sincerely,Dèjì Akómöláfé, 
MCSE+M MCSA+M MCTMicrosoft MVP - Directory Serviceswww.readymaids.com - we know ITwww.akomolafe.comDo you now realize 
that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried 
aboutYesterday?-anonFrom: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
on behalf of Harding, DevonSent: Wed 3/8/2006 1:37 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk ImportI was going to user csvde, but 
read that it did not support password creation.Is this 
supported under 
ADMod?From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Al MulnickSent: 
Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:22 PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: 
Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import I suppose it really depends on 
your input data.What have you got to workwith and what is 
the decision criteria for the OU differences?Creating the 
objects in a particular OU and mailbox enabling them would not be 
terribly difficult depending on the information you have and want to 
putin there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to put them 
where theybelong at creation vs. later.For that reason 
either one of Joe's tools (admod for example) or script would be my 
preference.Script would be minebut that's just because I'm 
funny like that. Joe's tools are faster thoughboth at runtime and to get 
working if you don't have scripts laying around. 
AlOn 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go to 
separate OU's. Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and 
create the mailbox thenmass send them an email.The 
script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. 
Soyour spreadsheet of users is: 
firstnamelastname 
passwordtargetOUconvert 
that to comma text for your script and use the first three for 
thecreation and then the first two and last for the 
move. 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
] On Behalf Of Kennedy, Jim Sent: 
Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:16 PM 
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk ImportDelegate it to 
HR.Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the 
names and script it, provide a default password of their SS number 
perhaps...must be changedon first log on.After they are 
created, in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and rightclick them 
and send them a test email to create the mailbox. 
 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon Sent: 
Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:02 PM  
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
Subject: [ActiveDir] Bulk 
Import What's the fast 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
although those DCs are not yours, but they are in the same domain (I first 
thought they belonged to another domain) and these also host DNS services, then 
yes those DC/DNS servers will host the same zones and will thus register the NS 
records for the zones they host
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Figueroa, Johnny
Sent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:39
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records


It is a DC/DNS and it replicates to the forest which is actually just one 
domain. 
 
That's just it, I don't see how or why anybody would go in there and add them. 
There are only a few people that have the access to do that and adding those 
records just does not make sense.
 
Thanks
 
 



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Jorge de
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 4:28
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Name Server records


what is the replication scope of the zone?
 
if it is:
DC within domain OR DC/DNS servers within domain then someone must have added 
them manually. Before removing them try finding out who added them and more 
important WHY?
 
jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Figueroa, Johnny
Sent: Thu 2006-03-09 00:17
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Name Server records




I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I look a the
properties of that DNS zone and go to the Name Servers tab, I see a
few servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. Those
servers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a trust
with.

I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS records for
that zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to Dynamic updates,
secure Only.

I could and will delete those records but I am thinking those records
will come back. The name servers in question do NOT show up with * on
the IP address, which could be the result of a query.

Ideas?

Thanks

Johnny Figueroa
Enterprise Network Consultant/Integrator
Network Services Banner Health Voice (602)
495-4195 Fax (602) 495-4406

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