RE: [ActiveDir] DC Lookup....

2006-03-09 Thread Smith, Brad
Title: Message



Thanks 
Darren, looking into it now. I have been off ill for a bit and apologize 
for "posting and running" so to speak. I will post my resolution up as 
soon as I have it.


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Lookup



Brad-
Have you seen this 
article?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306602





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BradSent: Monday, March 06, 
2006 12:34 PMTo: 
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Lookup


My 
environment: W2K FL, Mix of W2K and W2K3 DC's, One Forest, One Domain, 60 
DC's, all DC's bar one are relatively well connected (smallest link is 
256k).One DCis poorly connectedon a very highly utilised 
1MB line:-(



Does 
anyone know if there is a way to specify which DC a site uses when the DC 
assigned to that site is offline? To be specific, I want to manage a 
situation where a site is assigned a DC (or a bunch of them) and then those DC's 
fail. The clients then will look up alternate DC's, but I want different 
subnets to lookup different "secondary" DC's. So Site a has DCServerA, 
site B has DCServerB, site C has DCServerC, Site D has DCServerDand 
siteE has DCServer E. When DCServer A fails, I want those clients to 
use DCServerE. When one of DCServerB, DCServerC or DCServerD fail, I want 
them to use one of DCServerB, DCServerC or 
DCServerD.



Sort 
of confusing question to ask..anyone have any ideas? I know that DC dns 
records can be weighted, but that is accross the board and would effect all 
sites right ?

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RE: [ActiveDir] DC Lookup....

2006-03-09 Thread neil.ruston
Title: Message



You might consider placing a second DC in the site with 
poor connectivity.

If all DCs are unavailable in a site, the clients will be 
redirected to one of the DC that have registered domain specific SRV records. By 
default, this means any any DC in the domain, in any site. 

A common change made is to stop spoke site DCs from 
registering these records and only allow the hub site DCs to do so. When all 
spoke site DCs fail (in one site) clients are referred to a hub site DC and 
never to a spoke site DC.

The KB offers further info, but I thought the above 
"summary" was worthwhile :)

neil


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Lookup

Thanks 
Darren, looking into it now. I have been off ill for a bit and apologize 
for "posting and running" so to speak. I will post my resolution up as 
soon as I have it.


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Lookup



Brad-
Have you seen this 
article?

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/306602





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On Behalf Of Smith, 
BradSent: Monday, March 06, 
2006 12:34 PMTo: 
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Lookup


My 
environment: W2K FL, Mix of W2K and W2K3 DC's, One Forest, One Domain, 60 
DC's, all DC's bar one are relatively well connected (smallest link is 
256k).One DCis poorly connectedon a very highly utilised 
1MB line:-(



Does 
anyone know if there is a way to specify which DC a site uses when the DC 
assigned to that site is offline? To be specific, I want to manage a 
situation where a site is assigned a DC (or a bunch of them) and then those DC's 
fail. The clients then will look up alternate DC's, but I want different 
subnets to lookup different "secondary" DC's. So Site a has DCServerA, 
site B has DCServerB, site C has DCServerC, Site D has DCServerDand 
siteE has DCServer E. When DCServer A fails, I want those clients to 
use DCServerE. When one of DCServerB, DCServerC or DCServerD fail, I want 
them to use one of DCServerB, DCServerC or 
DCServerD.



Sort 
of confusing question to ask..anyone have any ideas? I know that DC dns 
records can be weighted, but that is accross the board and would effect all 
sites right ?

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Lag Sites

2006-03-09 Thread Wyatt, David

Cheers Tomasz.


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Wyatt, David wrote:
 What MS paper?
 
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyID=64DB845D-F7A3-4
209-8ED2-E261A117FC6Bdisplaylang=en

At the end of this document You will find information how to do this. As

Jorge pointed today on our chat on IM this document is not addressing 
potential SYSVOL issue after such restore so BurFlags should come into
play: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/290762

-- 
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Re: [ActiveDir] Name Server records

2006-03-09 Thread matheesha weerasinghe
You will also get these records if you demote DCs and if the demotion
didn't do a good cleanup job after itself.

M@



On 08/03/06, Figueroa, Johnny [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I have an AD 2003 domain and an AD integrated DNS zone. If I look a the
 properties of that DNS zone and go to the Name Servers tab, I see a
 few servers that are not our domain controllers/DNS servers. Those
 servers look like DNS servers in other domains that we have a trust
 with.

 I guess I am curious as to how these servers end up as NS records for
 that zone?. The zone is AD integrated and is set to Dynamic updates,
 secure Only.

 I could and will delete those records but I am thinking those records
 will come back. The name servers in question do NOT show up with * on
 the IP address, which could be the result of a query.

 Ideas?

 Thanks

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[ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread Graham Turner
Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group policy object
delegation.

the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's without 'Domain
Admins' membership.

Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy creator 
owners'
group.

this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to edit (and
presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there creating them.

how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say USER2 in a
group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that allows the
members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's that members of that 
group
create ?

if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates the GPO to
assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly ideal ?

Thanks

GT

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[ActiveDir] Free Second Shot at any Microsoft Exam

2006-03-09 Thread Teo De Las Heras
Microsoft's offer to re-take any of their exams for free is back:
http://www.microsoft.com/learning/mcp/offers/2ndchance/

Teo


RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

2006-03-09 Thread Harding, Devon
Excel spreadsheet with First Name, Last Name  Division

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What is your input? Where are you getting the input from, and what format is
it in? Al mentioned some script laying around. I may have one stuck in one of
my couches here :)
 
 
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I was going to user csvde, but read that it did not support password
creation.  Is this supported under ADMod?

 



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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

 

I suppose it really depends on your input data.  What have you got to work
with and what is the decision criteria for the OU differences? 

 

Creating the objects in a particular OU and mailbox enabling them would not
be terribly difficult depending on the information you have and want to put
in there. Jim's way would work, but I think I prefer to put them where they
belong at creation vs. later.  For that reason either one of Joe's tools
(admod for example) or script would be my preference.  Script would be mine
but that's just because I'm funny like that. Joe's tools are faster though
both at runtime and to get working if you don't have scripts laying around. 

 

Al

 

On 3/8/06, Kennedy, Jim [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 

Ok, I skipped a step, sounds like you need these 200 to go to separate OU's.
Mass create them in one OU, mass right click them and create the mailbox then
mass send them an email. 

 

The script the move if that is faster/easier than a manual drag and drop. So
your spreadsheet of users is:

 

firstname  lastname password  targetOU

 

convert that to comma text for your script and use the first three for the
creation and then the first two and last for the move. 

 





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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

 

Delegate it to HR.

 

Short of that get HR or someone to give you a list of the names and script
it, provide a default password of their SS number perhaps...must be changed
on first log on. 

 

After they are created, in the same OU...mass select them in ADUC and right
click them and send them a test email to create the mailbox. 

 

 

 





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Subject: [ActiveDir] Bulk Import

 

What's the fast way for me to create 200 user accounts in specific
OU's and create Exchange mailboxes?

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 





 


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RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread neil.ruston
When created, a new GPO will *not* inherit rights from the parent (if we
examine SYSVOL perms, for example). 

You may assign user1 and user2 the rights to create GPOs in the domain
(using GPMC) but each user will need to grant other users the right to
edit 'their' GPO.

FWIW, I think this is a bad practice and a recipe for disaster. I only
ever allow DAs the rights to create and edit (and link) GPOs. How do you
stop user1 or 2 from creating a GPO, editing and linking it and thus
starting a DoS on all users due to a badly configured GPO? Do you
control where they can link GPOs? Why not have the DAs create and link,
and allow user 1 and 2 to edit (only) their GPOs? You appear to have
relinquished all control of your GPOs to non-admins :(

neil


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To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group policy
object delegation.

the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's without
'Domain Admins' membership.

Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy
creator owners'
group.

this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to
edit (and presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there
creating them.

how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say
USER2 in a group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that
allows the members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's
that members of that group create ?

if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates
the GPO to assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly
ideal ?

Thanks

GT

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[ActiveDir] Issue creating forest trusts

2006-03-09 Thread Bernier, Brandon \(.\)
Title: Issue creating forest trusts







Hello all,


I'm running into this issue where I want to create a forest trust on Windows 2003 with FFL2 level in both forests. When I enter the domain FQDN in the wizard, it tell me it cannot establish an RPC connect to server X. So I grabbed a network trace on both sidesIt does a DNS lookup and finds a DC in the target forest, pings it and send 1 microsoft-DS TCP packet. I can't see inside that one and Im curious what it's doing, well whatever it does fails because it does the same DNS lookup again and try to authenticate via NTLM as my ID in the other forest so of course it will get denied and stops. Any words of wisdom on what going on? Thanks!

-Brandon





RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
I agree with Neil here with just a few other suggestions. The ability to
create GPOs in and of itself is not as interesting as controlling who
can link the GPO to the various AD containers, as Neil indicates below.
So managing delegation of the gpLink and gpOptions attributes on site,
domain and OU containers is important. But if you really want to
delegate creation and editing of GPOs, you have to deal with the problem
outlined below, which is that the rights to create a GPO are different
and don't automatically flow into rights to edit a GPO for a different
user or group. One option here is to have a documented process where
your creators create the GPO and then use GPMC to delegate edit rights
to another user/group. Another option is to modify the
defaultSecurityDescriptor attribute on the groupPolicyContainer class
object to modify the default groups that can edit GPOs when they're
created. In that way you can have a group that can create GPOs and
another, perhaps overlapping larger group that can edit them. Problem
with making such a change is that all subsequent GPOs created in the
domain will have that new group ACE on them, which may or may not be
desirable.

Darren


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When created, a new GPO will *not* inherit rights from the parent (if we
examine SYSVOL perms, for example). 

You may assign user1 and user2 the rights to create GPOs in the domain
(using GPMC) but each user will need to grant other users the right to
edit 'their' GPO.

FWIW, I think this is a bad practice and a recipe for disaster. I only
ever allow DAs the rights to create and edit (and link) GPOs. How do you
stop user1 or 2 from creating a GPO, editing and linking it and thus
starting a DoS on all users due to a badly configured GPO? Do you
control where they can link GPOs? Why not have the DAs create and link,
and allow user 1 and 2 to edit (only) their GPOs? You appear to have
relinquished all control of your GPOs to non-admins :(

neil


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Sent: 09 March 2006 13:46
To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group policy
object delegation.

the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's without
'Domain Admins' membership.

Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy
creator owners'
group.

this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to
edit (and presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there
creating them.

how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say
USER2 in a group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that
allows the members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's
that members of that group create ?

if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates
the GPO to assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly
ideal ?

Thanks

GT

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Fw: [ActiveDir] Issue creating forest trusts

2006-03-09 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Title: Issue creating forest trusts
long shot but are there any isa or nokia/checkpoint units between the boxes, we had to get a patch on the nokia unit because our domain controllers wouldn't communicate correctly because of rpc failues after loading sp1 for windows 2003. There was a change in how the RPC communication works in sp1 and isa 2004 and checlpoint firewalls rpc filter need to be updated.Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: 09/03/2006 15:13 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org Subj: [ActiveDir] Issue creating forest trusts  



 
Hello all, 
I'm running into this issue where I want to create a forest trust on Windows 2003 with FFL2 level in both forests. When I enter the domain FQDN in the wizard, it tell me it cannot establish an RPC connect to server X. So I grabbed a network trace on both sides…It does a DNS lookup and finds a DC in the target forest, pings it and send 1 microsoft-DS TCP packet. I can't see inside that one and I’m curious what it's doing, well whatever it does fails because it does the same DNS lookup again and try to authenticate via NTLM as my ID in the other forest so of course it will get denied and stops. Any words of wisdom on what going on? Thanks!
-Brandon 

RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread Graham Turner
thanks both for views on this which make a whole load of sense

i think how i am to proceed is to leave the 'domain admins' with the task of GPO
creation and delegation to appropriate groups of people.

it would be my view that you should be able to trust the people to whom 
authority
for a GPO is delegated to manage the point at which it becomes 'active' by way 
of
the linking to a particular OU, and as such delegate the GpLINK.

quick question if i may though ...

the delegation of gplink is available from the 'delegate control wizards' 
(Windows
2000 here sorry !)

i assume this is sufficient for the delegate to link a GPO to the OU - what 
does the
delegation of GPOPTIONS allow additionally ??

GT

 I agree with Neil here with just a few other suggestions. The ability to
 create GPOs in and of itself is not as interesting as controlling who
 can link the GPO to the various AD containers, as Neil indicates below.
 So managing delegation of the gpLink and gpOptions attributes on site,
 domain and OU containers is important. But if you really want to
 delegate creation and editing of GPOs, you have to deal with the problem
 outlined below, which is that the rights to create a GPO are different
 and don't automatically flow into rights to edit a GPO for a different
 user or group. One option here is to have a documented process where
 your creators create the GPO and then use GPMC to delegate edit rights
 to another user/group. Another option is to modify the
 defaultSecurityDescriptor attribute on the groupPolicyContainer class
 object to modify the default groups that can edit GPOs when they're
 created. In that way you can have a group that can create GPOs and
 another, perhaps overlapping larger group that can edit them. Problem
 with making such a change is that all subsequent GPOs created in the
 domain will have that new group ACE on them, which may or may not be
 desirable.

 Darren


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:52 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 When created, a new GPO will *not* inherit rights from the parent (if we
 examine SYSVOL perms, for example).

 You may assign user1 and user2 the rights to create GPOs in the domain
 (using GPMC) but each user will need to grant other users the right to
 edit 'their' GPO.

 FWIW, I think this is a bad practice and a recipe for disaster. I only
 ever allow DAs the rights to create and edit (and link) GPOs. How do you
 stop user1 or 2 from creating a GPO, editing and linking it and thus
 starting a DoS on all users due to a badly configured GPO? Do you
 control where they can link GPOs? Why not have the DAs create and link,
 and allow user 1 and 2 to edit (only) their GPOs? You appear to have
 relinquished all control of your GPOs to non-admins :(

 neil


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: 09 March 2006 13:46
 To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group policy
 object delegation.

 the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's without
 'Domain Admins' membership.

 Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy
 creator owners'
 group.

 this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to
 edit (and presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there
 creating them.

 how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say
 USER2 in a group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

 can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that
 allows the members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's
 that members of that group create ?

 if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates
 the GPO to assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly
 ideal ?

 Thanks

 GT

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RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread neil.ruston
That would allow the setting of 'block inheritance' and 'force
inheritance' and the like.

gpLink merely grants rights to link GPOs to the OU. 

I'm sure Darren will fill in the large blanks left by me, again :)


neil


-Original Message-
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Sent: 09 March 2006 15:44
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

thanks both for views on this which make a whole load of sense

i think how i am to proceed is to leave the 'domain admins' with the
task of GPO creation and delegation to appropriate groups of people.

it would be my view that you should be able to trust the people to whom
authority for a GPO is delegated to manage the point at which it becomes
'active' by way of the linking to a particular OU, and as such delegate
the GpLINK.

quick question if i may though ...

the delegation of gplink is available from the 'delegate control
wizards' (Windows 2000 here sorry !)

i assume this is sufficient for the delegate to link a GPO to the OU -
what does the delegation of GPOPTIONS allow additionally ??

GT

 I agree with Neil here with just a few other suggestions. The ability 
 to create GPOs in and of itself is not as interesting as controlling 
 who can link the GPO to the various AD containers, as Neil indicates
below.
 So managing delegation of the gpLink and gpOptions attributes on site,

 domain and OU containers is important. But if you really want to 
 delegate creation and editing of GPOs, you have to deal with the 
 problem outlined below, which is that the rights to create a GPO are 
 different and don't automatically flow into rights to edit a GPO for a

 different user or group. One option here is to have a documented 
 process where your creators create the GPO and then use GPMC to 
 delegate edit rights to another user/group. Another option is to 
 modify the defaultSecurityDescriptor attribute on the 
 groupPolicyContainer class object to modify the default groups that 
 can edit GPOs when they're created. In that way you can have a group 
 that can create GPOs and another, perhaps overlapping larger group 
 that can edit them. Problem with making such a change is that all 
 subsequent GPOs created in the domain will have that new group ACE on 
 them, which may or may not be desirable.

 Darren


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:52 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 When created, a new GPO will *not* inherit rights from the parent (if 
 we examine SYSVOL perms, for example).

 You may assign user1 and user2 the rights to create GPOs in the domain

 (using GPMC) but each user will need to grant other users the right to

 edit 'their' GPO.

 FWIW, I think this is a bad practice and a recipe for disaster. I only

 ever allow DAs the rights to create and edit (and link) GPOs. How do 
 you stop user1 or 2 from creating a GPO, editing and linking it and 
 thus starting a DoS on all users due to a badly configured GPO? Do you

 control where they can link GPOs? Why not have the DAs create and 
 link, and allow user 1 and 2 to edit (only) their GPOs? You appear 
 to have relinquished all control of your GPOs to non-admins :(

 neil


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Graham Turner
 Sent: 09 March 2006 13:46
 To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group 
 policy object delegation.

 the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's 
 without 'Domain Admins' membership.

 Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy 
 creator owners'
 group.

 this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to

 edit (and presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there 
 creating them.

 how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say
 USER2 in a group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

 can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that 
 allows the members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's 
 that members of that group create ?

 if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates 
 the GPO to assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly 
 ideal ?

 Thanks

 GT

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RE: [ActiveDir] Issue creating forest trusts

2006-03-09 Thread Bernier, Brandon \(.\)
Title: Issue creating forest trusts



no firewalls in the way (yet), both forests are at 
SP1.



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AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: Fw: [ActiveDir] 
Issue creating forest trusts
long shot but are there any isa or nokia/checkpoint units between the 
boxes, we had to get a patch on the nokia unit because our domain controllers 
wouldn't communicate correctly because of rpc failues after loading sp1 for 
windows 2003. There was a change in how the RPC communication works in sp1 and 
isa 2004 and checlpoint firewalls rpc filter need to be 
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trusts  



 
Hello all, 
I'm running into this issue where I want to 
create a forest trust on Windows 2003 with FFL2 level in both forests. When I 
enter the domain FQDN in the wizard, it tell me it cannot establish an RPC 
connect to server X. So I grabbed a network trace on both sidesIt does a DNS 
lookup and finds a DC in the target forest, pings it and send 1 microsoft-DS TCP 
packet. I can't see inside that one and Im curious what it's doing, well 
whatever it does fails because it does the same DNS lookup again and try to 
authenticate via NTLM as my ID in the other forest so of course it will get 
denied and stops. Any words of wisdom on what going on? Thanks!
-Brandon 


RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-09 Thread Navroz Shariff



Nathan,

On behalf of everyone...I thank you for posting the 
image. I have a large format printer so I will definitely print it 
postersize. It's a good thing you scanned it at a high DPI 
setting.

-Nav


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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nathan 
KlineSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:03 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

:) Due to the large amount of requests, I've uploaded this 
toweb space. :) This link should take you to the 
image.

http://home.wmis.net/~nkline/adjig.html

Nathan





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On Behalf Of Nathan KlineSent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:30 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

I received the same foldout and have already made a scan into JPG format 
of it. Contact me off list if you are interested.


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(NIH/CC/DNA) [E]Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:19 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
Technet Magazine "Active Directory Component Jigsaw"


I am working on the 
Editors to post the graphic. At least you can access the articles via the 
web.

Todd





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AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

"Subscriptions are 
free" -to those in the U.S. only :(




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ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine 
"Active Directory Component Jigsaw"

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/

Someone in my office 
just gave me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat 
insert called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall 
hanging that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan 
it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of it. 
I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What I do here 
J

Subscriptions are 
free.

Todd

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RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component Jigsaw

2006-03-09 Thread Blou Baker

Here is their Contact Us
page: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/contact.aspx

Their email address is: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


BB








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Please respond to
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Directory Component Jigsaw








Is there an easy way to contact
them? email/postal/etc?


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Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]
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Jigsaw

I got word back from the editors
that if you send them a request, they will send you a poster but they
dont have the image file. I didnt tell them about the file that
has be made available on the Internet.

Thanks,

Todd

(Disclaimer: I am sure that
you all in other countries will not have the ability to get free shipping
of the diagram but feel free to try)





From: Navroz Shariff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 11:47 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw

Nathan,

On behalf of everyone...I thank you for posting the image.
I have a large format printer so I will definitely print it poster size.
It's a good thing you scanned it at a high DPI setting.

-Nav




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Kline
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 5:03 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
:) Due to the large amount
of requests, I've uploaded this to web space. :) This link
should take you to the image.

http://home.wmis.net/~nkline/adjig.html

Nathan





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Kline
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 1:30 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
I received the same foldout and
have already made a scan into JPG format of it. Contact me off list
if you are interested.




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Todd (NIH/CC/DNA) [E]
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:19 AM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
I am working on the Editors
to post the graphic. At least you can access the articles via the
web.

Todd




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Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 11:10 AM
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Subscriptions are free
- to those in the U.S. only :(




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Subject: [ActiveDir] Technet Magazine Active Directory Component
Jigsaw
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/technetmag/

Someone in my office just gave
me a copy of this free magazine, and it came with the really neat insert
called the Active Directory Component Jigsaw. It is a wall hanging
that outlines all the AD process graphically. I will try to scan
it and post it on my Blog, but I just wanted to make you all aware of it.
I plan to hang it on my cubical wall on the outside that says What
I do here J

Subscriptions are free.

Todd
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[ActiveDir] Active Directory IRC discussion channels/servers?

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Lagreca
Could anyone recommend any good Active Directory IRC discussion
channels/servers?
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[ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.
 
Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)
 
Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.
 
So, am I really SOL?
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Hutchins, Mike
Ouch... 

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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my 
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to 
neverland on a one-way ticket.
 
Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)
 
Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next King 
of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin to help 
me here. Just won't happen.
 
So, am I really SOL?
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? 
 -anon
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Michael B. Smith
Do you have Deleted Item Recovery turned on your message store?

KB 178630 and check it out.

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 PM
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Ouch... 

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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my 
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to 
neverland on a one-way ticket.
 
Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)
 
Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next King 
of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin to help 
me here. Just won't happen.
 
So, am I really SOL?
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about Yesterday? 
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Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Mike O'Toole


The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted Items
option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail) that were
deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting reg key on
locked down desktops.

Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



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Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Pochedley
The dumpster only works if the items were marked as deleted.  I'm not sure what 
those pocket PC's do when they sync their nothingness, but they definitely 
don't mark the items as deleted.

I've run into the same situation with users and PocketPC's and haven't found an 
acceptable solution...

Deji:  Do you by chance have an Outlook 2003 client somewhere, running cached 
mode, that you haven't synced back to the server yet?

Joe Pochedley
Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 
user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the
old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.   - Bill 
Gates.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike O'Toole
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?


The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted Items 
option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail) that were 
deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting reg key on 
locked down desktops.

Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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 I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all 
 my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip 
 to neverland on a one-way ticket.

 Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

 Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the 
 next King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate 
 server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.

 So, am I really SOL?

 Sincerely,

 Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
 www.readymaids.com - we know IT
 www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
What's your favorite kingdom? I'll get myself a crown, then maybe (just
maybe) the chances of a restore happening will be greatly enhanced :)
 
 
Sincerely,

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Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?



Exchange right?

2003?

Plead with your admin to restore your Outlook mailbox?
See if they are in Deleted items if VSS is enabled?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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www.akomolafe.com
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Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

How good are you at forensic recovery of data on a handheld devices?

http://www.paraben-forensics.com/handheld_forensics.html

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Right. I was . errr meaning to do that :)


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Mike O'Toole
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:08 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?




The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted
Items
option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail) that were
deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting reg key on
locked down desktops.

Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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   Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:45:48 -0800
   From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org


 


I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server
   


admin
 


to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Michael B. Smith
???

I'm running Windows Mobile 5. I deleted a contact from my handheld (an i-mate 
Jasjar) and synched it. The contact I deleted was in my deleted items folder, 
just as I expected.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

The dumpster only works if the items were marked as deleted.  I'm not sure what 
those pocket PC's do when they sync their nothingness, but they definitely 
don't mark the items as deleted.

I've run into the same situation with users and PocketPC's and haven't found an 
acceptable solution...

Deji:  Do you by chance have an Outlook 2003 client somewhere, running cached 
mode, that you haven't synced back to the server yet?

Joe Pochedley
Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more 
user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the
old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.   - Bill 
Gates.

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike O'Toole
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?


The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted Items 
option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail) that were 
deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting reg key on 
locked down desktops.


Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:45:48 -0800
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Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org


 I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all 
 my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip 
 to neverland on a one-way ticket.

 Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

 Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the 
 next King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate 
 server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.

 So, am I really SOL?

 Sincerely,

 Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
 www.readymaids.com - we know IT
 www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Michael B. Smith
Really -- if DIR is turned on, you shouldn't have to do that. They should 
either be in your Deleted Items folder or in Deleted Item Recovery. I just 
tested and it worked for me.

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

What's your favorite kingdom? I'll get myself a crown, then maybe (just
maybe) the chances of a restore happening will be greatly enhanced :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Susan Bradley, CPA aka
Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 12:58 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?



Exchange right?

2003?

Plead with your admin to restore your Outlook mailbox?
See if they are in Deleted items if VSS is enabled?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
Do you by chance have an Outlook 2003 client somewhere
 
How does one say NO in pig-Latin? Hmmm S-O-L :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Joe Pochedley
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?



The dumpster only works if the items were marked as deleted.  I'm not sure
what those pocket PC's do when they sync their nothingness, but they
definitely don't mark the items as deleted.

I've run into the same situation with users and PocketPC's and haven't found
an acceptable solution...

Deji:  Do you by chance have an Outlook 2003 client somewhere, running cached
mode, that you haven't synced back to the server yet?

Joe Pochedley
Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the
old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.   - Bill
Gates.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike O'Toole
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?


The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted
Items option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail)
that were deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting
reg key on locked down desktops.

Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:45:48 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org


 I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all
 my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip
 to neverland on a one-way ticket.

 Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

 Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the
 next King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate
 server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.

 So, am I really SOL?

 Sincerely,

 Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
 www.readymaids.com - we know IT
 www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
On MY Exchange servers, yes.
 
On the CORPORATE Exchange servers? What was the question again?
 
 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:01 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?



Do you have Deleted Item Recovery turned on your message store?

KB 178630 and check it out.

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:55 PM
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Ouch...

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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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[ActiveDir] 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS

2006-03-09 Thread Ravi Dogra
Hi,

Just wanted to know what is this and how disabling or enabling it can
affect my DC?
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
You know what they say about you? Don't tell anyone, but they call you
wizard. I just followed your instructions, and before you could say
dumpster, the contacts are showing up in deleted items
 
You made my day :)
 
 
Sincerely,

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Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Michael B. Smith
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?



???

I'm running Windows Mobile 5. I deleted a contact from my handheld (an i-mate
Jasjar) and synched it. The contact I deleted was in my deleted items folder,
just as I expected.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Pochedley
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

The dumpster only works if the items were marked as deleted.  I'm not sure
what those pocket PC's do when they sync their nothingness, but they
definitely don't mark the items as deleted.

I've run into the same situation with users and PocketPC's and haven't found
an acceptable solution...

Deji:  Do you by chance have an Outlook 2003 client somewhere, running cached
mode, that you haven't synced back to the server yet?

Joe Pochedley
Software suppliers are trying to make their software packages more
user-friendly... Their best approach, so far, has been to take all the
old brochures, and stamp the words, 'user-friendly' on the cover.   - Bill
Gates.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike O'Toole
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?


The 'Dumpster Always On' regitry setting will enable the Recover Deleted
Items option in Outlook so that you may recover any items (not just mail)
that were deleted within the server's retention period. File allows setting
reg key on locked down desktops.


Found at http://campus.umr.edu/it/helpdesk/resources/reg_fixes/


Mike O'Toole


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Date: Thu, 9 Mar 2006 12:45:48 -0800
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org


 I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all
 my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip
 to neverland on a one-way ticket.

 Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

 Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the
 next King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate
 server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.

 So, am I really SOL?

 Sincerely,

 Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
 Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
 www.readymaids.com - we know IT
 www.akomolafe.com
 Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido
come on Deji - forget whoever you've had in your contact list until now and 
just get some new friends :-) 

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Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Actually, I think all three of Deji's friends are on this list anyway... :)

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Guido
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:09 PM
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come on Deji - forget whoever you've had in your contact list until now and 
just get some new friends :-) 

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Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread deji
Three? Don't tell me you are including yourself :)
 
 
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Actually, I think all three of Deji's friends are on this list anyway... :)

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come on Deji - forget whoever you've had in your contact list until now and
just get some new friends :-)

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Sent: Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:17
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Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Ok, so maybe its only two... :) 

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Three? Don't tell me you are including yourself :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 2:12 PM
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Actually, I think all three of Deji's friends are on this list anyway... :)

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come on Deji - forget whoever you've had in your contact list until now and
just get some new friends :-)

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Sent: Donnerstag, 9. März 2006 23:17
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Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)


Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all my
contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip to
neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the next
King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate server admin
to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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Re: [ActiveDir] ADMT v3 implementation questions

2006-03-09 Thread Joe Lagreca
My problems seemed to have been solved by simply logging in as the
Administrator from the source domain, on the target domain.  Then I
was able to access all shares in the source domain, as well as run the
ADMT agent with no problems.

I am trying to finish up my ADMT v3.0 migration document to help
others who are running into problems.  I will let you all know when it
is ready.

Thanks for the help.

Joe


On 3/8/06, Joe Lagreca [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I got ADMT running in a test environment, but now have a few problems.

 Problem #1

 When I use the wizard to migrate a computer from the source domain to
 the target, I then have the same machine account in both domains.
 Making it impossible for the target domain to access the shares of the
 workstation in the source domain.  I have experienced this problem,
 and found it documented here:

 http://www.jsifaq.com/SUBJ/tip4600/rh4655.htm

  4655 » Logon Failure error when accessing a child domain controller from 
  the parent domain? 08-Jan-02
 
  When you attempt to access a child domain controller from the parent 
  domain, you receive:
 
   Logon Failure: The target account name is incorrect.
 
   This error will occur if a computer in the parent domain has the same 
  computer name as a computer in the child domain.
 
   To resolve the problem, rename one of the computers.
 
   NOTE: If the computer no longer exists, delete it's machine account.


 If I delete the the newly migrated computer from the target domain, I
 can then access the shares on the workstation in the source domain.
 Anyone have an idea of how I can get around this limitation?  I don't
 think it is possible to remove the workstation from the source domain
 yet, as it hasn't had the agent dispatched to it to change its domain
 ownership.

 Problem #2

 Even though I have already added the opposite Domain Admins group to
 the local Administrator group of each machine, I don't appear to have
 admin rights across the trust between domains.

 One example is that the target domain cannot access the Admin$ share
 of the workstation in the source domain.

 If I go to the source domain workstation and add the administrator of
 the target domain to the local Administrator group of the workstation,
 I can then access the Admin$ share and dispatch the ADMT agent to the
 workstation.

 Since this is not practical in a widespread migration, I need to
 figure out how to get administrative privileges across the trust
 between domains.

 Thanks.

 Joe

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RE: [ActiveDir] [List Owner] Chatter

2006-03-09 Thread Tony Murray
Is it just my imagination or is the list getting chattier?

Don't make me bring out the List Nanny!

Oh, and please remember use the OT: prefix for off topic posts.  This
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RE: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

2006-03-09 Thread joe
A perfect example of the difference between big server world and SBS-land.
In big server world the tendency is to try and turn everything off that
doesn't absolutely have to be on where I think the tendency in SBS-land is
to have everything on, heck the DC is even running Exchange, it can't get
much worse than that...

Seriously though, most companies have found that many cool Microsoft
technologies rarely scale well to large environments. All of the little
broadcasts and such that are fine on a small network with 15 PCs are ok but
once you get into segments with hundreds of machines on networks with
hundreds of thousands of machines things can get ugly. 

The less you have turned on, the less you have to worry about breaking and
then trying to figure out how to fix. Big companies have enough other issues
to deal with like how to change the email addresses of some 10,000 users who
are now in a new division that needs a new name but is still in the main
email system, etc. 

In general new cool things are adopted much more slowly if ever in large
environments unless those things were initially scaled to enterprise sizes
in design and are intended to make the enterprise more liveable in a way
that the admins and management feel it needs to be more liveable.
Unfortunately, most of the MS stuff doesn't qualify, usually on the first
points.  

Active Directory things, now those are often cool and needed, but not say
link tracking which worked great in mom and pop areas but devastated some
large companies until they knew they could delete all of that useless crap.

Microsoft has always had and seems to still have serious issues in testing
several things

1. Scaled deployments
2. Reduced permission sets
3. Disjoint namespace or other unusual deployments that are not the result
of clicking ok all of the time
4. Generic group selection (for instance LCS requires Global Groups... What
century is this? Boneheads)
5. Multidomain forests
6. Multiforest deployments

Basically if you do not have an environment that you built with point and
click and hitting OK several times then you need to test test test before
you implement most MS anything. Even if you do, I still think you should
test test test before you implement anything. But since you are probably
small too and the idea of a test lab makes you laugh uncontrollably because
you could barely get production hardware, I understand.


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 

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aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 4:23 PM
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If this is a 2k3 environment and that admin doesn't have VSS agents on the
workstations so that you can restore your own deleted items...then shame on
that admin.

I have an entire drive snapping snapshots every hour on the hour (yes, every
hour on the hour) for data, and mailbox retention is 30 days.

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Wouldn't that be just wonderful? Only if the admin were human :)
 
 
Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about 
Yesterday?  -anon



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Thu 3/9/2006 1:05 PM
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Can you get the server admin to pull a tape? You could do the restore 
yourself in a VM environment.

-g

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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 1:46 PM
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Subject: [ActiveDir] What do you do when ooops won't work?

I just f-fingered a synch between my PDA and Outlook. Short story, all 
my contacts (painfully built over several years) just took a road-trip 
to neverland on a one-way ticket.

Local backup? I was meaning to do it tomorrow. Really ;)

Server backup restore? Yeah. I have a greater chance of being the 
next King of insert-favorite-empire-here than getting my corporate 
server admin to help me here. Just won't happen.

So, am I really SOL?

Sincerely,

Dèjì Akómöláfé, MCSE+M MCSA+M MCT
Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
www.readymaids.com - we know IT
www.akomolafe.com
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RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

2006-03-09 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Yep, Neil is spot on with that. gpOptions simply lets you set block
inheritance on the container object.  

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That would allow the setting of 'block inheritance' and 'force
inheritance' and the like.

gpLink merely grants rights to link GPOs to the OU. 

I'm sure Darren will fill in the large blanks left by me, again :)


neil


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Sent: 09 March 2006 15:44
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

thanks both for views on this which make a whole load of sense

i think how i am to proceed is to leave the 'domain admins' with the
task of GPO creation and delegation to appropriate groups of people.

it would be my view that you should be able to trust the people to whom
authority for a GPO is delegated to manage the point at which it becomes
'active' by way of the linking to a particular OU, and as such delegate
the GpLINK.

quick question if i may though ...

the delegation of gplink is available from the 'delegate control
wizards' (Windows 2000 here sorry !)

i assume this is sufficient for the delegate to link a GPO to the OU -
what does the delegation of GPOPTIONS allow additionally ??

GT

 I agree with Neil here with just a few other suggestions. The ability 
 to create GPOs in and of itself is not as interesting as controlling 
 who can link the GPO to the various AD containers, as Neil indicates
below.
 So managing delegation of the gpLink and gpOptions attributes on site,

 domain and OU containers is important. But if you really want to 
 delegate creation and editing of GPOs, you have to deal with the 
 problem outlined below, which is that the rights to create a GPO are 
 different and don't automatically flow into rights to edit a GPO for a

 different user or group. One option here is to have a documented 
 process where your creators create the GPO and then use GPMC to 
 delegate edit rights to another user/group. Another option is to 
 modify the defaultSecurityDescriptor attribute on the 
 groupPolicyContainer class object to modify the default groups that 
 can edit GPOs when they're created. In that way you can have a group 
 that can create GPOs and another, perhaps overlapping larger group 
 that can edit them. Problem with making such a change is that all 
 subsequent GPOs created in the domain will have that new group ACE on 
 them, which may or may not be desirable.

 Darren


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 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 3:52 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 When created, a new GPO will *not* inherit rights from the parent (if 
 we examine SYSVOL perms, for example).

 You may assign user1 and user2 the rights to create GPOs in the domain

 (using GPMC) but each user will need to grant other users the right to

 edit 'their' GPO.

 FWIW, I think this is a bad practice and a recipe for disaster. I only

 ever allow DAs the rights to create and edit (and link) GPOs. How do 
 you stop user1 or 2 from creating a GPO, editing and linking it and 
 thus starting a DoS on all users due to a badly configured GPO? Do you

 control where they can link GPOs? Why not have the DAs create and 
 link, and allow user 1 and 2 to edit (only) their GPOs? You appear 
 to have relinquished all control of your GPOs to non-admins :(

 neil


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 Sent: 09 March 2006 13:46
 To: activedir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] group policy creator owners

 Dear all, I am looking to some information with respect to Group 
 policy object delegation.

 the requirement is to allow additional users to create new GPO's 
 without 'Domain Admins' membership.

 Seems the way to go is to add the user accounts to the 'Group policy 
 creator owners'
 group.

 this allows them to create GPO's and have the necessary permissions to

 edit (and presumably delete) GPO's that they own by way of there 
 creating them.

 how can this be implemented to support a team environment whereby say
 USER2 in a group would want to be able to edit a GPO created by USER1

 can we add a group to the 'Group policy creator owners' group that 
 allows the members of that group to 'share' the permissions on GPO's 
 that members of that group create ?

 if not it seems the only supported mechanism is for USER1 who creates 
 the GPO to assign permissions on the GPO that they create  - hardly 
 ideal ?

 Thanks

 GT

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[ActiveDir] Upgrade of a Windows 2000 Server Cluster

2006-03-09 Thread Medeiros, Jose








Greetings AD
gurus, 



Has anyone on the list
attempted a rolling upgrade of a Windows 2000 Server Cluster running SQL 2000
to Windows 2003 server with SQL 2000 yet? 



If so have you had any
issues with the nodes coming back online? Any Gotchas I should know
about?



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/technologies/clustering/rllupnet.mspx



Sincerely,

Jose
Medeiros
MCP+I, MCSE, NT4 MCT
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Re: [ActiveDir] 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS

2006-03-09 Thread Al Mulnick
1025/tcp is in the range of ephemeral ports. If it were some versions of BSD, that would be 1025-4999 but for Windows is pretty much 1025-65535 (TCP in this case).

RPC endpoints are typically negotiated and pick from the ephemeral ports that Windows has available (above 1024 or implicitly 1025-65535 with some exceptions). 

If you disable that port on a standalone machine, especially a DC you can easily break it's normal function or at least whatever is based on RPC connectivity. You *could* lock down the ports that the RPC endpoint mapper hands out however, which would allow you to use some other port and thereby disable that port if you really wanted to for some reason. The end result is that when asked, your server would always hand out the same port number to communicate vs. picking one at random.  


Was there a particularly interesting reason you want to disable that access? From outside your network you certainly do, but any particular reason why you would on the machine? 
Al
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RE: [ActiveDir] 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS

2006-03-09 Thread Marcus.Oh








Al, do you have success with that rpc port
limitation? With win2k, it did not work as advertised as I recall





:m:dsm:cci:mvp marcusoh.blogspot.com











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Mulnick
Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006
9:42 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1025/tcp
open NFS-or-IIS







1025/tcp is in the range of ephemeral ports. If it were some versions
of BSD, that would be 1025-4999 but for Windows is pretty much 1025-65535 (TCP
in this case).











RPC endpoints are typically negotiated and pick from the ephemeral
ports that Windows has available (above 1024 or implicitly 1025-65535 with some
exceptions). 











If you disable that port on a standalone machine, especially a DC you
can easily break it's normal function or at least whatever is based on RPC
connectivity. You *could* lock down the ports that the RPC endpoint mapper
hands out however, which would allow you to use some other port and thereby
disable that port if you really wanted to for some reason. The end result is
that when asked, your server would always hand out the same port number to
communicate vs. picking one at random.  











Was there a particularly interesting reason you want to disable that
access? From outside your network you certainly do, but any particular reason
why you would on the machine? 






Al






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Dogra [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote: 

Hi,

Just wanted to know what is this and how disabling or enabling it can
affect my DC?
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[ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon Service

2006-03-09 Thread Aaron Visser
Well I know this is a little off topic but I cannot find any answers so I
have decided that I need to tap into this huge fountain of knowledge.

Computer - Win XP Pro SP2 latest Updates

Problem - Computer was working fine and all of a sudden after a reboot today
I can no longer login to it via the Domain (it says that the NetLogon
Service is not started)  So I logged onto another computer and remotely
connected to the computer thru the Computer Management MMC Snap-In and
checked the Netlogon Service and sure enough it was disabled, so I set it to
Auto and then proceeded to start the Service. But it will not start because
it says that the RPC Locator Service (to the best of my recollection) needs
to be started, so I check that and sure enough it is disabled also.  So I
try to start that service but it gives me some error that I cannot recall at
this time.  Anyways trying to make this story short I am pretty sure that
the computer in question was targeted from within the LAN remotely.  So the
big question or questions are is it possible to attack a computer in this
manner?  If it is possible does anyone have any info on how to accomplish
this so that I can try and figure out how or what what used and maybe even
nail the person (student) who did this.

Thanks,

Aaron


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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon Service

2006-03-09 Thread Ken Schaefer
Title: [ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon Service






For allwe know, someone 
did exactly what you did (connect remotely using administrative credentials) and 
disabled the services.

Do you have logon auditing enabled? If so, 
have you checked to see who's logged onto the machine?

Cheers
Ken


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of Aaron VisserSent: Fri 3/10/2006 4:47 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon 
Service

Well I know this is a little off topic but I cannot find any 
answers so Ihave decided that I need to tap into this huge fountain of 
knowledge.Computer - Win XP Pro SP2 latest UpdatesProblem - 
Computer was working fine and all of a sudden after a reboot todayI can no 
longer login to it via the Domain (it says that the NetLogonService is not 
started) So I logged onto another computer and remotelyconnected to 
the computer thru the Computer Management MMC Snap-In andchecked the 
Netlogon Service and sure enough it was disabled, so I set it toAuto and 
then proceeded to start the Service. But it will not start becauseit says 
that the RPC Locator Service (to the best of my recollection) needsto be 
started, so I check that and sure enough it is disabled also. So Itry 
to start that service but it gives me some error that I cannot recall atthis 
time. Anyways trying to make this story short I am pretty sure thatthe 
computer in question was targeted from within the LAN remotely. So 
thebig question or questions are is it possible to attack a computer in 
thismanner? If it is possible does anyone have any info on how to 
accomplishthis so that I can try and figure out how or what what used and 
maybe evennail the person (student) who did 
this.Thanks,Aaron




Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon Service

2006-03-09 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Malware?

Malware can hork up the tcp/ip stack really good.

Ken Schaefer wrote:
For all we know, someone did exactly what you did (connect remotely 
using administrative credentials) and disabled the services.
 
Do you have logon auditing enabled? If so, have you checked to see 
who's logged onto the machine?
 
Cheers

Ken


*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Aaron Visser
*Sent:* Fri 3/10/2006 4:47 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] OT: Netlogon Service

Well I know this is a little off topic but I cannot find any answers so I
have decided that I need to tap into this huge fountain of knowledge.

Computer - Win XP Pro SP2 latest Updates

Problem - Computer was working fine and all of a sudden after a reboot 
today

I can no longer login to it via the Domain (it says that the NetLogon
Service is not started)  So I logged onto another computer and remotely
connected to the computer thru the Computer Management MMC Snap-In and
checked the Netlogon Service and sure enough it was disabled, so I set 
it to
Auto and then proceeded to start the Service. But it will not start 
because
it says that the RPC Locator Service (to the best of my recollection) 
needs

to be started, so I check that and sure enough it is disabled also.  So I
try to start that service but it gives me some error that I cannot 
recall at

this time.  Anyways trying to make this story short I am pretty sure that
the computer in question was targeted from within the LAN remotely.  
So the

big question or questions are is it possible to attack a computer in this
manner?  If it is possible does anyone have any info on how to accomplish
this so that I can try and figure out how or what what used and maybe even
nail the person (student) who did this.

Thanks,
Aaron


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Re: [ActiveDir] 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS

2006-03-09 Thread Umer Y
Marcus,

I have tested that with 2003 SP1 dc's. Works like a charm.

I used the following  KB: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/154596/

Cheers.

On 3/10/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Al, do you have success with that rpc port limitation?  With win2k, it did
 not work as advertised as I recall…




 :m:dsm:cci:mvp marcusoh.blogspot.com
 


 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al
 Mulnick
 Sent: Thursday, March 09, 2006 9:42 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1025/tcp open NFS-or-IIS





 1025/tcp is in the range of ephemeral ports. If it were some versions of
 BSD, that would be 1025-4999 but for Windows is pretty much 1025-65535 (TCP
 in this case).





 RPC endpoints are typically negotiated and pick from the ephemeral ports
 that Windows has available (above 1024 or implicitly 1025-65535 with some
 exceptions).





 If you disable that port on a standalone machine, especially a DC you can
 easily break it's normal function or at least whatever is based on RPC
 connectivity. You *could* lock down the ports that the RPC endpoint mapper
 hands out however, which would allow you to use some other port and thereby
 disable that port if you really wanted to for some reason. The end result is
 that when asked, your server would always hand out the same port number to
 communicate vs. picking one at random.





 Was there a particularly interesting reason you want to disable that access?
 From outside your network you certainly do, but any particular reason why
 you would on the machine?



 Al



 On 3/9/06, Ravi Dogra [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,

 Just wanted to know what is this and how disabling or enabling it can
 affect my DC?
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