RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Javier Jarava
Sorry to jump in ;) But after all, you could say that ESX is linux-based and
be right... And also it's true that they run on bare metal, because the
overhead is *quite* different than the one you get when you load up all of a
general-purpose OS (no matter if it's Windows or Linux, although IMO Windows
tends to place a bit more load on the computer just to be ready to serve).
So I believe that the comparison would be more appropiate if you pitch
VmWare Server and VS thatn ESX/VS (you know, it's the classic appliance vs
software service face-off).
 
I've done some light use of all of them ESX, VS, VmWare Server... and I'll
agree that VS is *much* simpler to set-up than the vmware offerings, but
also the possibilities are somewhat more limited... As for the real life
use, I don't have the needs/hardware to really take any of these products to
their limits... but I know of those who use them (in large datacenters for
real business critical apps) and, at least to my knoweldge, what people are
deploying is ESX.
 
Just my 0,002 (and no, I don't own EMC nor MS stock, nor am I affiliated
with them in any way... though I believe VMWARE would be a great place to
work, and I am a longtime user of their products).
 
Let's see what VirtualServer 2007 brings to the table :)
 
Javier Jarava
 


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Asunto: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


 one runs on bare metal and other runs under a host OS
 
Actually, that's a sleight of hand. ESX runs on a VMware-cooked Linux
Kernel. So, one can argue that, because it is bundled with its own OS, ESX
does not really run on bare metal in the way some people describe it.
 

Sincerely, 
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From: Noah Eiger
Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 4:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server



I realize this is now getting a bit OT, but.

 

Deji, I think the fruit distinction is based on the fact that one runs on
bare metal and other runs under a host OS. (Or at least that is how I have
always thought of them.) Beyond that, I agree there are simply feature
comparisons.

 

That said, (and with the caveat that I have not worked with ESX) I find the
MS product to be much simpler than VM Server (nee GSX). I started halfway
down the path of migrating my MS VMs to VM Server and found it overly
complex and the video emulation performance using the VM Ware client was so
bad as to be unacceptable. 

 

And as to the OP, I have DCs running on MS VS2k5 R2 and have not had any
problems. In the situation you describe, Justin, it seems like performance
and cost would be the deciding factor.

 

--- nme

 



From: Akomolafe, Deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

 

:)

 

Interesting points, again. Did I remember to say that I am biased? I think
so. I expect that I'm going to catch some flaks for what I'm about to write,
but .

 

These do not make VS and ESX apples and oranges. VMotion, Host clustering.
Different nomenclature, different capabilities, same purpose, Resource
allocation guarantee, CPU Resource allocation weight.

 

Superior Networking capabilities. Sure. Does VS have networking
capabilities? Of course. Does ESX integrate with AD as well as VS? Does it
run on Windows? Support software iSCSI? Live backup and Shadow Copy? (OK, if
you count VCB and its proxy).

 

Administration - show of hands, quick - ESX or VS, which is easier and less
complex to deploy and administer? Which has easier and faster client
deployment option?

 

I swear, I have NOT drunk any kool-aid, but I think people's perceptions of
the superiority of ESX over VS is largely driven by a combination of
historical trends, myths, marketing and the unavoidable Winblows Sux
mentality. Since we are on a Windows-centric list here, I do not mind
admitting that I do not subscribe to the notion that if it's not Windows, it
must be better than Windows. Mind you, Hunter, I am NOT implying that this
is where you are coming from, but the reason I asked you to enunciate the
reasoning behind your thinking was because I was hoping to hear something I
haven't heard before on this issue.

 

VS certainly wasn't as feature-rich as ESX a couple of revs back. The gap is

Re: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Anders Blomgren

That's a common misconception which VMware unfortunately aren't very good at
dispelling.
The adapted redhat linux system you see when booting ESX is the Service
Console, merely the first virtual machine running. Being the service
console, its got some hooks into the guts of the vmkernel but the vmkernel
isnt the linux kernel with some added modules. Even though he's never come
public with it, vmkernel is probably based from Dr Mendel Rosemblums (one of
the founders) work at Stanford where he and some of his students developed
an OS, a machine simulator and a virtual machine monitor.

Even so, base your choice on the capabilities needed and cost. Both ESX and
VS are quite stable.
And as far as I know, the license considerations aren't limited to VS. It's
quite common for people to buy a DataCenter license per cpu for machines
running ESX.

Regards,
Anders

On 1/19/07, Akomolafe, Deji [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  one runs on bare metal and other runs under a host OS

Actually, that's a sleight of hand. ESX runs on a VMware-cooked Linux
Kernel. So, one can argue that, because it is bundled with its own OS, ESX
does not really run on bare metal in the way some people describe it.


Sincerely,
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*Sent:* Thu 1/18/2007 4:53 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server



I realize this is now getting a bit OT, but…



Deji, I think the fruit distinction is based on the fact that one runs on
bare metal and other runs under a host OS. (Or at least that is how I have
always thought of them.) Beyond that, I agree there are simply feature
comparisons.



That said, (and with the caveat that I have not worked with ESX) I find
the MS product to be much simpler than VM Server (nee GSX). I started
halfway down the path of migrating my MS VMs to VM Server and found it
overly complex and the video emulation performance using the VM Ware client
was so bad as to be unacceptable.



And as to the OP, I have DCs running on MS VS2k5 R2 and have not had any
problems. In the situation you describe, Justin, it seems like performance
and cost would be the deciding factor.



--- nme


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*From:* Akomolafe, Deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
*Sent:* Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:44 PM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server



:)



Interesting points, again. Did I remember to say that I am biased? I think
so. I expect that I'm going to catch some flaks for what I'm about to write,
but .



These do not make VS and ESX apples and oranges. VMotion, Host
clustering. Different nomenclature, different capabilities, same purpose,
Resource allocation guarantee, CPU Resource allocation weight.



Superior Networking capabilities. Sure. Does VS have networking
capabilities? Of course. Does ESX integrate with AD as well as VS? Does it
run on Windows? Support software iSCSI? Live backup and Shadow Copy? (OK, if
you count VCB and its proxy).



Administration - show of hands, quick - ESX or VS, which is easier and
less complex to deploy and administer? Which has easier and faster client
deployment option?



I swear, I have NOT drunk any kool-aid, but I think people's perceptions
of the superiority of ESX over VS is largely driven by a combination of
historical trends, myths, marketing and the unavoidable Winblows Sux
mentality. Since we are on a Windows-centric list here, I do not mind
admitting that I do not subscribe to the notion that if it's not Windows, it
must be better than Windows. Mind you, Hunter, I am NOT implying that this
is where you are coming from, but the reason I asked you to enunciate the
reasoning behind your thinking was because I was hoping to hear something I
haven't heard before on this issue.



VS certainly wasn't as feature-rich as ESX a couple of revs back. The gap
is considerably narrowed with what's currently going into VS and what ESX
3.0.1 has today. Will VS catch and surpass ESX in a few months, no. Will
it ever catch up, maybe. But, today, if we factor in the cost overlay (in
licensing, hardware and administrative values), and discount our
preconceived (or received) notions of ESX superiority, and give VS (as of
SP1 Beta 2) a fair shake, one would be pleasantly surprised at how narrow
the gap really is.



To me, these 2 products are all bananas - one is a just banana and the
other is organic banana. They are certainly not more apple and orange
than your convertible and my jalopy are apple and orange. They are both
virtualization tools, and they each serve the same purpose. 

[ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Oliver Marshall
Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to unsubscribe. Can 
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Big up'.

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RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Craig Cerino
You are with us now - - - - you may never leave

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?

 

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Re: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

You're not yet assimilated ??

On 1/19/07, Oliver Marshall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?



As much as I love you all, my recent affair with Apple OS X has left me
realising that  our love is just a sham and that other delights await me.

Big up'.

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www.g2support.com/backups





[ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

2007-01-19 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
We have an application that is using an Apache server to do LDAP
authentications against our active directory.  (Yeah, I know; if only I
were king!  LOL!)  The application developer tells me that if he tries
doing an auth against our root base (dc=yyy,dc=zzz), the auth fails.  If
he uses a search base of ou=xxx,dc=yyy,dc=zzz, the auth works.  The
user account that is being tested is some OU levels below this.  He is
coding a subtree scope and he is filtering on (objectclass=user and
objectcategory=person).

 

It's like Apache needs to start at an OU structure.  I couldn't find
much on Google about this other than someone else was having the same
issue last Fall and just gave up in frustration.   The Apache
documentation I could find seemed to indicate that a search of
dc=yyy,dc=zzz SHOULD work.

 

Any thoughts/pointers are appreciated!  Thanks!

 

Mike Thommes



[ActiveDir] [OT] Partitioning

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Cline
Hi folks, we've got a few partitions we need to enlarge on about 3 of
our servers - the space is there and available, but the partition just
needs to be expanded. Seeing as how PartitionMagic Pro has been
discontinued, can anyone recommend a good product for this?
 
Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Desmond
So you're describing searching for something and talking about
authentication. Which is it?

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
Michael M.
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

 

We have an application that is using an Apache server to do LDAP
authentications against our active directory.  (Yeah, I know; if only I
were king!  LOL!)  The application developer tells me that if he tries
doing an auth against our root base (dc=yyy,dc=zzz), the auth fails.  If
he uses a search base of ou=xxx,dc=yyy,dc=zzz, the auth works.  The
user account that is being tested is some OU levels below this.  He is
coding a subtree scope and he is filtering on (objectclass=user and
objectcategory=person).

 

It's like Apache needs to start at an OU structure.  I couldn't find
much on Google about this other than someone else was having the same
issue last Fall and just gave up in frustration.   The Apache
documentation I could find seemed to indicate that a search of
dc=yyy,dc=zzz SHOULD work.

 

Any thoughts/pointers are appreciated!  Thanks!

 

Mike Thommes



RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

2007-01-19 Thread Ziots, Edward
Also try this, 
 
on a Windows 2003 box use the dsquery command and issue the following. (
as the same account you are using to do the Authentication)
 
 
dsquery * CN=Users,DC=Your_Account_Domain,DC=Your_Parent_Domain,DC=COM
you should get a dump of the first 1000 users in the Users container. If
you get this then you done an Authenticated LDAP query to AD and dumped
accounts. 
 
You can also use the same LDAP Construct in the Custom Searches within
Windows 2003 ADUC to see if this will also give you the information you
are looking for. 
 
Also note that your developer might need to page his queries, because AD
is only going to return the first 1000, of you get an error 4 that is a
indicative of a paging issue with the query. 
 
HTH,
Z

Edward E. Ziots 
Network Engineer 
Lifespan Organization 
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security + 
email:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
cell:401-639-3505 

 



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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:33 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity



So you're describing searching for something and talking about
authentication. Which is it?

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 

c - 312.731.3132

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes,
Michael M.
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

 

We have an application that is using an Apache server to do LDAP
authentications against our active directory.  (Yeah, I know; if only I
were king!  LOL!)  The application developer tells me that if he tries
doing an auth against our root base (dc=yyy,dc=zzz), the auth fails.  If
he uses a search base of ou=xxx,dc=yyy,dc=zzz, the auth works.  The
user account that is being tested is some OU levels below this.  He is
coding a subtree scope and he is filtering on (objectclass=user and
objectcategory=person).

 

It's like Apache needs to start at an OU structure.  I couldn't find
much on Google about this other than someone else was having the same
issue last Fall and just gave up in frustration.   The Apache
documentation I could find seemed to indicate that a search of
dc=yyy,dc=zzz SHOULD work.

 

Any thoughts/pointers are appreciated!  Thanks!

 

Mike Thommes



RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
No no no no no, Craig:

You can check out any time you want,
But you can *never* leave!

Steve Egan (temp)
Systems/Network Engineer

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You are with us now - - - - you may never leave

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Subject: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?

 

As much as I love you all, my recent affair with Apple OS X has left me
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Big up'.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

2007-01-19 Thread joe
Get a network trace of the LDAP calls and responses. Possibly it is an
apache issue, possibly the developer is a knucklehead. :)
 
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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thommes, Michael M.
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:19 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity



We have an application that is using an Apache server to do LDAP
authentications against our active directory.  (Yeah, I know; if only I were
king!  LOL!)  The application developer tells me that if he tries doing an
auth against our root base (dc=yyy,dc=zzz), the auth fails.  If he uses a
search base of ou=xxx,dc=yyy,dc=zzz, the auth works.  The user account
that is being tested is some OU levels below this.  He is coding a subtree
scope and he is filtering on (objectclass=user and objectcategory=person).

 

It's like Apache needs to start at an OU structure.  I couldn't find much on
Google about this other than someone else was having the same issue last
Fall and just gave up in frustration.   The Apache documentation I could
find seemed to indicate that a search of dc=yyy,dc=zzz SHOULD work.

 

Any thoughts/pointers are appreciated!  Thanks!

 

Mike Thommes



Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Partitioning

2007-01-19 Thread Bart Van den Wyngaert

diskpart from MS ?

On 1/19/07, Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Hi folks, we've got a few partitions we need to enlarge on about 3 of our
servers – the space is there and available, but the partition just needs
to be expanded. Seeing as how PartitionMagic Pro has been discontinued,
can anyone recommend a good product for this?



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Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
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RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread joe
http://www.activedir.org/List.aspx
 
Careful... some affairs can get you jail time... An affair with a tiger or
leopard is likely one of them... Plus once you have gone that direction, you
may find your overall pool of possible dates shrinks drammatically,
especially if you admit where you have been. Certainly a majority of the
business world frowns on affairs with those creatures. 
 
lol.
 
--
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http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 
 

  _  

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Subject: Unsubing



Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to unsubscribe.
Can anyone help me out?

 

As much as I love you all, my recent affair with Apple OS X has left me
realising that  our love is just a sham and that other delights await me.

Big up'.

Olly

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Re: [ActiveDir] [OT] Partitioning

2007-01-19 Thread AdamT

NTFSResize:

http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
or maybe
http://gparted.sourceforge.net/

As with anything that's going to mess with partition sectors, you'll
want to make a full backup first.

HTH,

Adam.

On 19/01/07, Brian Cline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



Hi folks, we've got a few partitions we need to enlarge on about 3 of our
servers – the space is there and available, but the partition just needs to
be expanded. Seeing as how PartitionMagic Pro has been discontinued, can
anyone recommend a good product for this?




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OT RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Craig Cerino
Either way, Oliveer is ours no matter how hard he fights :o)

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No no no no no, Craig:

You can check out any time you want,
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
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[ActiveDir] OT: HARDWARE question. FILE SERVER VS ATTACHED STORAGE SOLUTION

2007-01-19 Thread Ramon Linan
HI,

I have 2 questions.

We need more storage space but we don't know if we should go with an
attached storage solution (NAS, SAN, etc) or just get a big file
server, can anyone tell me benefit and disadvantage of each one, or
point me to URL with this info?

Also, my hardware knowledge is very obsolete, how can I get up to speed
in terms of hardware


Thanks all

Rezuma
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RE: [ActiveDir] [OT] Partitioning

2007-01-19 Thread Ken Cornetet
If you are extending the last partition (and it is not the system or
boot drive) on the disk into free space, diskpart will do the trick.



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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:29 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] [OT] Partitioning



Hi folks, we've got a few partitions we need to enlarge on about 3 of
our servers - the space is there and available, but the partition just
needs to be expanded. Seeing as how PartitionMagic Pro has been
discontinued, can anyone recommend a good product for this?

 

Brian Cline, Applications Developer
Department of Information Technology
GP Trucking Company, Inc.
803.936.8595 Direct Line
800.922.1147 Toll-Free (x8595)
803.739.1176 Fax



Re: [ActiveDir] Unable to logon after DCPromo - oddness

2007-01-19 Thread AdamT

On 18/01/07, Bahta, Nathaniel V CTR USAF NASIC/SCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

You can run dcdiag on the enterprise which will gather data from every
server.  Try doing that and collecting data on the issue.  Also, do the
objects exist in Sites and Services for the server to replicate among
its peers?



Thanks to all for the many suggestions.  I hadn't realised that things
like dcdiag didn't need to be run on the affected DC.

Sadly, it's too late now, as the DC has gone to that big server-room
in the sky (or rather, Windows has been re-installed).

I checked the unattend file that was used to run dcpromo and found it
was being run by a VBS, with 'On Error Resume Next'.  Running the
dcpromo on other servers since then has worked fine, and now the
decision's been made to run dcpromo manually for this batch of 50
servers.

Oh well, it'll have to remain one of life's unsolved mysteries.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: HARDWARE question. FILE SERVER VS ATTACHED STORAGE SOLUTION

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Desmond
Without knowing your requirements I can't tell you which of those is
something you want. They all have different applications...

I keep up to speed on hardware by specifying and installing it. I can
rattle off the right Compaq or Dell server model number given what
you're going to do with it. I'm pretty good with Cisco switches and
routers in that respect too. 

Thanks,
Brian Desmond
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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 [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ramon Linan
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:19 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: HARDWARE question. FILE SERVER VS ATTACHED
 STORAGE SOLUTION
 
 HI,
 
 I have 2 questions.
 
 We need more storage space but we don't know if we should go with an
 attached storage solution (NAS, SAN, etc) or just get a big file
 server, can anyone tell me benefit and disadvantage of each one, or
 point me to URL with this info?
 
 Also, my hardware knowledge is very obsolete, how can I get up to
speed
 in terms of hardware
 
 
 Thanks all
 
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RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Noah Eiger
Ben, you are correct: I was using W2k3. I did the full acceleration thing.
Locally, the speed was ok after that. Over any sort of WAN or VPN
connection, it was still unusable. The only reason I found this notable was
because the MS VMRC performs really well in that scenario.

 

Thanks.

 

-- nme

 

P.S. Deji, thanks for the note about the base Linux OS on ESX.

  _  

From: WATSON, BEN [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 5:18 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

 

Noah,

 

I initially thought that as well in regards to the video emulation
performance.  Now correct me if I'm wrong, but I'll bet that you were using
virtualized Windows Server 2003 operating systems.  The default setting in
Windows Server 2003 is that your display hardware acceleration is turned
off.  If you set your hardware acceleration to full, then your video
emulation performance issues will go away.

 

Personally, I have used both Microsoft and VMWare products, and have found
the video performance to be pretty much the same.

 

~Ben

 

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Noah Eiger
Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 4:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

I realize this is now getting a bit OT, but...

 

Deji, I think the fruit distinction is based on the fact that one runs on
bare metal and other runs under a host OS. (Or at least that is how I have
always thought of them.) Beyond that, I agree there are simply feature
comparisons.

 

That said, (and with the caveat that I have not worked with ESX) I find the
MS product to be much simpler than VM Server (nee GSX). I started halfway
down the path of migrating my MS VMs to VM Server and found it overly
complex and the video emulation performance using the VM Ware client was so
bad as to be unacceptable. 

 

And as to the OP, I have DCs running on MS VS2k5 R2 and have not had any
problems. In the situation you describe, Justin, it seems like performance
and cost would be the deciding factor.

 

--- nme

 

  _  

From: Akomolafe, Deji [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

 

:)

 

Interesting points, again. Did I remember to say that I am biased? I think
so. I expect that I'm going to catch some flaks for what I'm about to write,
but .

 

These do not make VS and ESX apples and oranges. VMotion, Host clustering.
Different nomenclature, different capabilities, same purpose, Resource
allocation guarantee, CPU Resource allocation weight.

 

Superior Networking capabilities. Sure. Does VS have networking
capabilities? Of course. Does ESX integrate with AD as well as VS? Does it
run on Windows? Support software iSCSI? Live backup and Shadow Copy? (OK, if
you count VCB and its proxy).

 

Administration - show of hands, quick - ESX or VS, which is easier and less
complex to deploy and administer? Which has easier and faster client
deployment option?

 

I swear, I have NOT drunk any kool-aid, but I think people's perceptions of
the superiority of ESX over VS is largely driven by a combination of
historical trends, myths, marketing and the unavoidable Winblows Sux
mentality. Since we are on a Windows-centric list here, I do not mind
admitting that I do not subscribe to the notion that if it's not Windows, it
must be better than Windows. Mind you, Hunter, I am NOT implying that this
is where you are coming from, but the reason I asked you to enunciate the
reasoning behind your thinking was because I was hoping to hear something I
haven't heard before on this issue.

 

VS certainly wasn't as feature-rich as ESX a couple of revs back. The gap is
considerably narrowed with what's currently going into VS and what ESX 3.0.1
has today. Will VS catch and surpass ESX in a few months, no. Will it ever
catch up, maybe. But, today, if we factor in the cost overlay (in licensing,
hardware and administrative values), and discount our preconceived (or
received) notions of ESX superiority, and give VS (as of SP1 Beta 2) a fair
shake, one would be pleasantly surprised at how narrow the gap really is.

 

To me, these 2 products are all bananas - one is a just banana and the
other is organic banana. They are certainly not more apple and orange
than your convertible and my jalopy are apple and orange. They are both
virtualization tools, and they each serve the same purpose. One is cheap
(like, FREE cheap, while giving you liberal Windows licensing terms and
flexibility to boot), the other is not.

 

Now, I'm off to find my Teflon :)

 


Sincerely, 
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 ) /|_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: Apache LDAP authentication oddity

2007-01-19 Thread Michael B Allen
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 09:19:03 -0600
Thommes, Michael M. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We have an application that is using an Apache server to do LDAP
 authentications against our active directory.  (Yeah, I know; if only I
 were king!  LOL!)  The application developer tells me that if he tries
 doing an auth against our root base (dc=yyy,dc=zzz), the auth fails.  If
 he uses a search base of ou=xxx,dc=yyy,dc=zzz, the auth works.  The
 user account that is being tested is some OU levels below this.  He is
 coding a subtree scope and he is filtering on (objectclass=user and
 objectcategory=person).
 
  
 
 It's like Apache needs to start at an OU structure.  I couldn't find
 much on Google about this other than someone else was having the same
 issue last Fall and just gave up in frustration.   The Apache
 documentation I could find seemed to indicate that a search of
 dc=yyy,dc=zzz SHOULD work.

What Apache LDAP authentication are you using? Is it one of those
ldap_authz modules or a scripted ldap_bind hack?

A network capture would tell you definitively what authentication
mechanism is being used and at which end the problem resides. If you
have tcpdump on the web server this is simply:

  # tcpdump -s 0 -w mycapture.pcap 'port 389 | port 80'
  run the test
  ctrl-c to stop

Ldapsearch queries from the Apache machine might also help debug
the problem. For example, the following ldapsearch query gets the
CN=Users,DC=win,DC=net container (obvoiusly you would need to adjust
things a little):

  $ ldapsearch -h 192.168.2.104 -p 389 -Y digest-md5 -U mthommes \
  -w thepass -b DC=foo,DC=net -s one -z 100 '(CN=User)'

Mike

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[ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

2007-01-19 Thread Isenhour, Joseph
Hey has anyone been keeping track of the largest AD database?  I seem to
remember a few years ago it was an online email company.  I'm curious if
that has changed.


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RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

2007-01-19 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick
Do you mean biggest production DIT? ~Eric made a 2^31-1 object DIT in
the test lab ... in fact he's going to talk about that at DEC.

-gil



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Joseph
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:41 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Hey has anyone been keeping track of the largest AD database?  I seem to
remember a few years ago it was an online email company.  I'm curious if
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RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Donavon Yelton
Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in the
system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a $300 NIC
card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate and bam, I
get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the Broadcom's).

Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes
...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they
would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

Put in Intels and all was well.

If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can
say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's a
Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were 
 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I don't

 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other 
 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to have

 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself seems

 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netwo
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last question

 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 

   
 my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
 in
 

   
 the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
 it
 

   
 tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  The

 problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to 
 the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of
 
 2.8.13.0.
   
 On that note, in looking back at HP's revision history for their 
 driver for this card it has no mention of version 2.8.13.0 so is it 
 possible that this is the driver that came with Windows?  If so, how 
 can I go about getting rid of that driver and installing this new
 
 driver from HP.
   
 Updating the driver and choosing the new driver explicitly doesn't 
 work and running HP's update package for the driver obviously fails 
 to
 

   
 really update the driver.

 I can't say that this driver version is the root cause of the issue 
 but I do need the drivers updated to have a place to start from.

 Susan, is there a known issue with Broadcom's that could possibly 
 affect the problem I'm having?  Thanks for the assistance!

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:39 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 These aren't broadcom nics are they?

 (Broadcoms are evil)

 Darren Mar-Elia wrote:
   
 
 Does this server have the same NIC driver as other servers? Or, have

 you tried updating this server's NIC driver?

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donavon 
 Yelton
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:11 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 This appears to be the only system on the network having this issue.
   

   
 I connected to another Windows 2003 Standard member server and did a

 gpupdate and then looked at the event log and it appears clean after

 the gpupdate command was 

RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

2007-01-19 Thread Isenhour, Joseph
I'm curious about a production DIT.  A DIT that some poor soul is losing
sleep over at night ;)

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil Kirkpatrick
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:53 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Do you mean biggest production DIT? ~Eric made a 2^31-1 object DIT in
the test lab ... in fact he's going to talk about that at DEC.

-gil



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Isenhour,
Joseph
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:41 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Hey has anyone been keeping track of the largest AD database?  I seem to
remember a few years ago it was an online email company.  I'm curious if
that has changed.


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Re: OT RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Funny... because one of our SBS MVPs is our Mac expert and we are 
relying on him more and more as Mac are in our SBS networks.


I think it's somewhat religious thinking to think that just because 
you are running a Mac you suddenly don't need to be AD aware.


We certainly do in our Running Kitchen sinks and Macintosh's in our 
network, networks.


Try parallels virtualization on those suckers for some really fun stuff.

Our Mac guru also states that while there are times that he recommends 
the Mac server, there are more often times that it's a Windows server 
that's the best.  Entourage works great on the Exchange back end.


I think it's a bit myopic to be un-subing when you could parlay that Mac 
knowledge of AD goodness into something bigger and more job venues as we 
go more and more interop in business.  (We may not be running Vista for 
a while...but we're not ripping out these XP's for a while


But that's just my SBS view... so what do I know.  :-)

Craig Cerino wrote:

Either way, Oliveer is ours no matter how hard he fights :o)

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:50 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

No no no no no, Craig:

You can check out any time you want,
But you can *never* leave!

Steve Egan (temp)
Systems/Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Cerino
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:42 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

You are with us now - - - - you may never leave

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 8:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?

 


As much as I love you all, my recent affair with Apple OS X has left me
realising that  our love is just a sham and that other delights await
me.

Big up'.

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RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Did you try disabling media sense that someone suggested, in this article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;239924?

Also, try the reg hack described in this article, just for giggles:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;840669

I don't recall seeing it, but did you try a different switch port? 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donavon Yelton
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in the
system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a $300 NIC
card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate and bam, I
get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the Broadcom's).

Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes
...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they
would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

Put in Intels and all was well.

If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can
say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's a
Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were 
 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I don't

 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other 
 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to have

 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself seems

 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netwo
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last question

 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 

   
 my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
 in
 

   
 the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
 it
 

   
 tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  The

 problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to 
 the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of
 
 2.8.13.0.
   
 On that note, in looking back at HP's revision history for their 
 driver for this card it has no mention of version 2.8.13.0 so is it 
 possible that this is the driver that came with Windows?  If so, how 
 can I go about getting rid of that driver and installing this new
 
 driver from HP.
   
 Updating the driver and choosing the new driver explicitly doesn't 
 work and running HP's update package for the driver obviously fails 
 to
 

   
 really update the driver.

 I can't say that this driver version is the root cause of the issue 
 but I do need the drivers updated to have a place to start from.

 Susan, is there a known issue with Broadcom's that could possibly 
 affect the problem I'm having?  Thanks for the assistance!

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:39 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 These aren't broadcom nics are they?

 (Broadcoms are evil)

 Darren Mar-Elia wrote:
   
 
 Does this server have the same NIC 

RE: OT RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Ziots, Edward
Its always a nice feeling of being apart of the collective Borg, known
as this list and the Patch management list. 

EZ 


Edward E. Ziots
Network Engineer
Lifespan Organization
MCSE,MCSA,MCP+I,M.E,CCA,Network+, Security +
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cell:401-639-3505

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 12:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: OT RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

Funny... because one of our SBS MVPs is our Mac expert and we are
relying on him more and more as Mac are in our SBS networks.

I think it's somewhat religious thinking to think that just because
you are running a Mac you suddenly don't need to be AD aware.

We certainly do in our Running Kitchen sinks and Macintosh's in our
network, networks.

Try parallels virtualization on those suckers for some really fun stuff.

Our Mac guru also states that while there are times that he recommends
the Mac server, there are more often times that it's a Windows server
that's the best.  Entourage works great on the Exchange back end.

I think it's a bit myopic to be un-subing when you could parlay that Mac
knowledge of AD goodness into something bigger and more job venues as we
go more and more interop in business.  (We may not be running Vista for
a while...but we're not ripping out these XP's for a while

But that's just my SBS view... so what do I know.  :-)

Craig Cerino wrote:
 Either way, Oliveer is ours no matter how hard he fights :o)

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
 (Temp)
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:50 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

 No no no no no, Craig:

 You can check out any time you want,
 But you can *never* leave!

 Steve Egan (temp)
 Systems/Network Engineer

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craig Cerino
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:42 AM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

 You are with us now - - - - you may never leave

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 Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to 
 unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?

  

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Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833/en-us
Up the debugging Set to 0x00030002 what's the log say?

Donavon Yelton wrote:

Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in the
system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a $300 NIC
card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate and bam, I
get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the Broadcom's).

Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

Donavon Yelton 


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes
...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they
would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

Put in Intels and all was well.

If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can
say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's a
Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

Donavon Yelton wrote:
  
I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were 
the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
(including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I don't



  
think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other 
problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.


Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to have



  
fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself seems



  

to not have any effect.

Donavon

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netwo
rk
-cards-are-evil.aspx

We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
Even the latest drivers don't work.
Donavon Yelton wrote:
  


Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last question
  


  
that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
change

  
  

my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
in

  
  

the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
it

  
  


tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  The
  


  
problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to 
the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of

  

2.8.13.0.
  

On that note, in looking back at HP's revision history for their 
driver for this card it has no mention of version 2.8.13.0 so is it 
possible that this is the driver that came with Windows?  If so, how 
can I go about getting rid of that driver and installing this new

  

driver from HP.
  

Updating the driver and choosing the new driver explicitly doesn't 
work and running HP's update package for the driver obviously fails 
to

  
  


really update the driver.

I can't say that this driver version is the root cause of the issue 
but I do need the drivers updated to have a place to start from.


Susan, is there a known issue with Broadcom's that could possibly 
affect the problem I'm having?  Thanks for the assistance!


Donavon

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Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
Group

Policy)

These aren't broadcom nics are they?

(Broadcoms are evil)

Darren Mar-Elia wrote:
  

  

Does this server have the same NIC driver as other servers? Or, have



  

you tried updating this server's NIC driver?

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Yelton

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:11 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
Group

Policy)

This appears to be the only system on the network 

Re: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

2007-01-19 Thread Al Mulnick

Size on disk or number of objects?

On 1/19/07, Isenhour, Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


I'm curious about a production DIT.  A DIT that some poor soul is losing
sleep over at night ;)

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:53 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Do you mean biggest production DIT? ~Eric made a 2^31-1 object DIT in
the test lab ... in fact he's going to talk about that at DEC.

-gil



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Joseph
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Subject: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Hey has anyone been keeping track of the largest AD database?  I seem to
remember a few years ago it was an online email company.  I'm curious if
that has changed.


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RE: [ActiveDir] Unsubing

2007-01-19 Thread Kevin Brunson
OS X?  You've been cheating on us with that %#(! ?

I don't know what's so special about her  I mean, after all the
plastic surgery she's nothing but UNIX.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Oliver Marshall
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 7:39 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Unsubing

 

Sorry to send this to the list, but I cant find the address to
unsubscribe. Can anyone help me out?

 

As much as I love you all, my recent affair with Apple OS X has left me
realising that  our love is just a sham and that other delights await
me.

Big up'.

Olly

www.g2support.com/backups



RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Donavon Yelton
Well, I disabled media sensing again (first time for this Intel card
though, disabling didn't work with the Broadcoms) and it actually may
have worked this time around.  I'll watch it and do some testing but for
now consider it fixed pending. 8-)

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:24 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Did you try disabling media sense that someone suggested, in this
article:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;239924?

Also, try the reg hack described in this article, just for giggles:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;840669

I don't recall seeing it, but did you try a different switch port? 



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donavon Yelton
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:04 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in the
system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a $300 NIC
card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate and bam, I
get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the Broadcom's).

Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes
...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they
would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

Put in Intels and all was well.

If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can
say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's a
Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were 
 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I don't

 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other 
 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to have

 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself seems

 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netwo
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last question

 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 

   
 my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
 in
 

   
 the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
 it
 

   
 tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  The

 problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to 
 the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of
 
 2.8.13.0.
   
 On that note, in looking back at HP's revision history for their 
 driver for this card it has no mention of version 2.8.13.0 so is it 
 possible that this is the driver that came with Windows?  If so, how 
 can I go about getting rid of that driver and installing this new
 
 driver from HP.
   
 Updating the driver and choosing the new driver explicitly doesn't 
 work and running HP's update package for the driver obviously fails 
 to
 

   
 really update the driver.

 I can't say that this driver version is the root cause of the issue 
 but I do need the drivers updated to have a place to start from.

 Susan, is there a known issue with Broadcom's 

RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Donavon Yelton
I spoke too soon in regards to it being fixed.  Apparently it is now
intermittent and I can't make the 1054 error come up consistently.  The
logging has been set to 0x00030002 for some time but I haven't been able
to catch anything beyond the 59 error.  I did a gpupdate about 5 minutes
ago and it showed the 1054 error but then when I waited a couple of
minutes (not changing anything at all) it did not show up after doing a
gpupdate and the userenv log showed nothing out of whack (no 59 errors).

Any ideas to what could be the cause of intermittent issues?  After over
a week with this issue I'm losing my hair, and I don't have much more to
lose. 8-(

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833/en-us
Up the debugging Set to 0x00030002 what's the log say?

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in 
 the system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a 
 $300 NIC card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate 
 and bam, I get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the
Broadcom's).

 Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

 Donavon Yelton

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes 
 ...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they 
 would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

 Put in Intels and all was well.

 If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can

 say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's

 a Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were

 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I 
 don't
 

   
 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other

 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to 
 have
 

   
 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself 
 seems
 

   
 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netw
 o
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last 
 question
   

   
 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 
   
   
 
 my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
 in
 
   
   
 
 the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
 it
 
   
   
 
 tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  
 The
   

   
 problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to

 the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of
 
   
 2.8.13.0.
   
 
 On that note, in looking back at HP's revision history for their 
 driver for this card it has no mention of version 2.8.13.0 so is it 
 possible that this is the driver that came with Windows?  If so, how

 can I go about getting rid of that driver and installing this new
 
   
 driver from HP.
   
 
 Updating the driver and choosing the new driver explicitly doesn't 
 work and running HP's update package for the driver obviously fails 
 to
 
   
   
 
 really update the driver.

 I can't say that this driver 

RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Darren Mar-Elia
Given the fact that its intermittent, that its just this one server, that
you've already replaced the NIC and that the error is an unexpected network
error occurred, there's not much else to do I think, other than get MS
involved. Either its something in the OS or the network switch you're using
is flaky.

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donavon Yelton
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

I spoke too soon in regards to it being fixed.  Apparently it is now
intermittent and I can't make the 1054 error come up consistently.  The
logging has been set to 0x00030002 for some time but I haven't been able
to catch anything beyond the 59 error.  I did a gpupdate about 5 minutes
ago and it showed the 1054 error but then when I waited a couple of
minutes (not changing anything at all) it did not show up after doing a
gpupdate and the userenv log showed nothing out of whack (no 59 errors).

Any ideas to what could be the cause of intermittent issues?  After over
a week with this issue I'm losing my hair, and I don't have much more to
lose. 8-(

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833/en-us
Up the debugging Set to 0x00030002 what's the log say?

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in 
 the system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a 
 $300 NIC card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate 
 and bam, I get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the
Broadcom's).

 Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

 Donavon Yelton

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes 
 ...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they 
 would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

 Put in Intels and all was well.

 If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can

 say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's

 a Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were

 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I 
 don't
 

   
 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other

 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to 
 have
 

   
 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself 
 seems
 

   
 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netw
 o
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last 
 question
   

   
 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 
   
   
 
 my answer.  I had ran the HP update package for the NC series cards 
 in
 
   
   
 
 the server and it showed as updated (even if I run it at the moment 
 it
 
   
   
 
 tells me that the drivers are up to date) with version 2.8.22.0.  
 The
   

   
 problem is that when I look at the actual driver version by going to

 the device manager and viewing properties it shows a version of
 
   

RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
You might want to test the network connection.  We have a public tester
at http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ that might detect duplex mismatches
or faulty cables.

Mike Thommes

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darren Mar-Elia
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Given the fact that its intermittent, that its just this one server,
that
you've already replaced the NIC and that the error is an unexpected
network
error occurred, there's not much else to do I think, other than get MS
involved. Either its something in the OS or the network switch you're
using
is flaky.

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Donavon Yelton
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

I spoke too soon in regards to it being fixed.  Apparently it is now
intermittent and I can't make the 1054 error come up consistently.  The
logging has been set to 0x00030002 for some time but I haven't been able
to catch anything beyond the 59 error.  I did a gpupdate about 5 minutes
ago and it showed the 1054 error but then when I waited a couple of
minutes (not changing anything at all) it did not show up after doing a
gpupdate and the userenv log showed nothing out of whack (no 59 errors).

Any ideas to what could be the cause of intermittent issues?  After over
a week with this issue I'm losing my hair, and I don't have much more to
lose. 8-(

Donavon Yelton 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833/en-us
Up the debugging Set to 0x00030002 what's the log say?

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in 
 the system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a 
 $300 NIC card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate 
 and bam, I get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the
Broadcom's).

 Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

 Donavon Yelton

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes 
 ...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they 
 would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

 Put in Intels and all was well.

 If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can

 say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's

 a Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were

 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I 
 don't
 

   
 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other

 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to 
 have
 

   
 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself 
 seems
 

   
 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:09 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - 
 Group
 Policy)

 Dump the broadcoms and get Intel.
 http://msmvps.com/blogs/bradley/archive/2007/01/04/the-following-netw
 o
 rk
 -cards-are-evil.aspx

 We've had no end of weirdness with those suckers.
 Even the latest drivers don't work.
 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 
 Yes, these are Broadcom NICs.  I want to go back to the last 
 question
   

   
 that was asked (if my network card drivers were up to date) and 
 change
 
   
  

[ActiveDir] release date for W2K3/SP2?

2007-01-19 Thread Thommes, Michael M.
Has anyone heard of a release date for Windows Server 2003/SP2?  Thanks.

 

Mike Thommes



RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group Policy)

2007-01-19 Thread Donavon Yelton
Test came up clean.  Thanks for the link as that may come in handy in
the future!  I've been doing random gpupdate commands since the last
userenv error at 2:51PM EST and I haven't gotten a single 1054 error
since so I'm crossing my fingers that the DisableDHCPMediaSense works
with this new Intel card.

Donavon Yelton 

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Michael M.
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:34 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

You might want to test the network connection.  We have a public tester
at http://miranda.ctd.anl.gov:7123/ that might detect duplex mismatches
or faulty cables.

Mike Thommes

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 2:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

Given the fact that its intermittent, that its just this one server,
that you've already replaced the NIC and that the error is an
unexpected network error occurred, there's not much else to do I think,
other than get MS involved. Either its something in the OS or the
network switch you're using is flaky.

 

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

I spoke too soon in regards to it being fixed.  Apparently it is now
intermittent and I can't make the 1054 error come up consistently.  The
logging has been set to 0x00030002 for some time but I haven't been able
to catch anything beyond the 59 error.  I did a gpupdate about 5 minutes
ago and it showed the 1054 error but then when I waited a couple of
minutes (not changing anything at all) it did not show up after doing a
gpupdate and the userenv log showed nothing out of whack (no 59 errors).

Any ideas to what could be the cause of intermittent issues?  After over
a week with this issue I'm losing my hair, and I don't have much more to
lose. 8-(

Donavon Yelton 

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CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:21 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
Policy)

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/221833/en-us
Up the debugging Set to 0x00030002 what's the log say?

Donavon Yelton wrote:
 Well, I did as you and other suggested, install an Intel NIC card in 
 the system.  I purchased an NC360T Intel chipset card.  So after a 
 $300 NIC card was installed in the system I boot it up, run gpupdate 
 and bam, I get a 1054 userenv error (same one I was getting with the
Broadcom's).

 Any further suggestions before I call Microsoft?

 Donavon Yelton

 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:07 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] 1054 Error (Windows cannot contact DC - Group
 Policy)

 And if you like I'll ping you up with Les, Nick and others who ..yes 
 ...brand spanking new server... brand spanking new machines and they 
 would not/could not do what they were supposed to do.

 Put in Intels and all was well.

 If you'd like to get a similar dent in your head feel free.  All I can

 say is, these days the minute we start having weird issues and there's

 a Broadcom on the box, we're not wasting the time on them anymore.

 Donavon Yelton wrote:
   
 I'm not about to give up on the Broadcom NICs as this is a brand new 
 server that cost as much as a Honda Accord.  I'm not sure I can 
 believe that HP would put a defective card in such a machine.  You'd 
 think others would have the same issues in mass quantity if that were

 the case.  I'm also using Broadcoms in other HP servers here 
 (including the two DCs) and they have not had any issues.  It is all 
 too easy to chalk up a problem like this to network cards, but I 
 don't
 

   
 think it explains why the GPO is applied successfully without issues 
 within the first 15 minutes or so after a reboot.  There are no other

 problems cropping up from these Broadcoms either.

 Now for a question, how do I disable slow link detection for all 
 terminal service users on this problem server since that seems to 
 have
 

   
 fixed the issue?  I need to make the change in the registry on the 
 problem server apparently as making the switch in the GPO itself 
 seems
 

   
 to not have any effect.

 Donavon

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: 

RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

2007-01-19 Thread joe
I am aware of a 20GB DIT or two. 

Generally most of the DITs seem to be 10GB or smaller for many/most
companies even with hundreds of thousands of users.  


--
O'Reilly Active Directory Third Edition -
http://www.joeware.net/win/ad3e.htm 
 

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

I'm curious about a production DIT.  A DIT that some poor soul is losing
sleep over at night ;)

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 9:53 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Do you mean biggest production DIT? ~Eric made a 2^31-1 object DIT in
the test lab ... in fact he's going to talk about that at DEC.

-gil



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Joseph
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 10:41 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Largest AD DIT

Hey has anyone been keeping track of the largest AD database?  I seem to
remember a few years ago it was an online email company.  I'm curious if
that has changed.


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[ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
Greetings, Brain Trust:

 

I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

 

My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down.

 

However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine.

 

Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done:

 

1)   reloaded the VPN software.

2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine.

3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

 

Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD.

 

When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request).

 

Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to change her password back to what it was - she went through the AD
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever
since then, things just ain't the same.  I think something got scrambled
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then
re-enabling, but nothing's worked.

 

Where should I look to see if something's amiss?  I'm kinda stumped.

 

Steve Egan 

Systems/Network Engineer

 



Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread beads
Steve;

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would 
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at fault. 
Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my laptop 
is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1 or some 
such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with a 
local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious.



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Greetings, Brain Trust:
 
I’ve been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now and 
have almost scratched a groove in my head – this one’s a puzzler.
 
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client 
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third week 
of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain from her 
house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy dialup 
connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to go down.
 
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it works 
just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can’t log on to the domain with 
the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can browse with no 
problem.  OWA works just fine.
 
Here’s some of the troubleshooting I’ve done:
 
1)   reloaded the VPN software.
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine.
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.
 
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk 
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet 
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so 
it’s not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from 
ANYBODY’s laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It’s got to be her account, 
which is why I think it’s something screwed up in AD.
 
When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco 
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn’t working, sometimes it says there’s 
no domain (“domain = {not specified}”), sometimes it never talks to the 
3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back with the 
username/password request).
 
Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted 
to change her password back to what it was – she went through the AD 
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever 
since then, things just ain’t the same.  I think something got scrambled 
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then 
re-enabling, but nothing’s worked.
 
Where should I look to see if something’s amiss?  I’m kinda stumped.
 
Steve Egan 
Systems/Network Engineer
 

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RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


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Subject

[ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

 

 




Greetings, Brain Trust: 
  
I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler. 
  
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down. 
  
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine. 
  
Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done: 
  
1)   reloaded the VPN software. 
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine. 
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

  
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD. 
  
When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request). 
  
Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to change her password back to what it was - she went through the AD
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever
since then, things just ain't the same.  I think something got scrambled
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then
re-enabling, but nothing's worked. 
  
Where should I look to see if something's amiss?  I'm kinda stumped. 
  
Steve Egan 
Systems/Network Engineer 
  

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RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Al Garrett
I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
corruption was in the profile itself.

 

Al

 

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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


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To

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cc

 

Subject

[ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

 

 




Greetings, Brain Trust: 
  
I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler. 
  
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down. 
  
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine. 
  
Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done: 
  
1)   reloaded the VPN software. 
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine. 
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

  
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD. 
  
When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request). 
  
Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to change her password back to what it was - she went through the AD
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever
since then, things just ain't the same.  I think something got scrambled
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then
re-enabling, but nothing's worked. 
  
Where should I look to see if something's amiss?  I'm kinda stumped. 
  
Steve Egan 
Systems/Network Engineer 
  

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RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Michael B. Smith
What about reversible encryption? (I have no idea if this is required
for the VPN software or not - just a guess.)



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Subject: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



Greetings, Brain Trust:

 

I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

 

My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down.

 

However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine.

 

Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done:

 

1)   reloaded the VPN software.

2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine.

3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

 

Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD.

 

When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request).

 

Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to change her password back to what it was - she went through the AD
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever
since then, things just ain't the same.  I think something got scrambled
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then
re-enabling, but nothing's worked.

 

Where should I look to see if something's amiss?  I'm kinda stumped.

 

Steve Egan 

Systems/Network Engineer

 



RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread beads
Steve;

You could setup a new account through AD or blow her existing account away 
and see if that doesn't clear the stick from the mud. Just attacking this 
as logically as I can, here. Since I do not know of a utility to check for 
problems with Kerberos/AD... Though it seems like there should be 
something out there to do just that. 

Bueller?



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Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience with 
RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.
 
BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew 
that…
 
Steve Egan (temp)
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Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would 
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at fault. 
Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my laptop 
is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1 or some 
such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with a 
local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



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Greetings, Brain Trust: 
  
I’ve been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now and 
have almost scratched a groove in my head – this one’s a puzzler. 
  
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client 
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third week 
of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain from her 
house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy dialup 
connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to go down. 
  
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it works 
just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can’t log on to the domain with 
the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can browse with no 
problem.  OWA works just fine. 
  
Here’s some of the troubleshooting I’ve done: 
  
1)   reloaded the VPN software. 
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine. 
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her. 
  
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the 

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan \(Temp\)
Brent:

 

Great minds think alike...

 

We are thinking of saving all her files that have to be connected thru
her profile, blowing it away, and building a new one (NOT with the same
username!) to kind of flush things out.  I was hoping the Brain Trust
had something I hadn't thought of or maybe knew of somewhere to look.
I'll let this simmer over the weekend and see if anybody else can
contribute something that'll make/help me find the problem, IF it's
solvable *without* having to re-create the account.  It's gonna be messy
to have to re-create email and other stuff .

 

  ...besides, you knew the job was dangerous when you took it!

 

Steve Egan 

Systems/Network Engineer



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Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:23 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

You could setup a new account through AD or blow her existing account
away and see if that doesn't clear the stick from the mud. Just
attacking this as logically as I can, here. Since I do not know of a
utility to check for problems with Kerberos/AD... Though it seems like
there should be something out there to do just that. 

Bueller? 



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Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine. 
  
BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that... 
  
Steve Egan (temp) 
Systems/Network Engineer 

 




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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem 
  

Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



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Greetings, Brain Trust: 
 
I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for 

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Al Garrett
I just realized my response was misleading.

 

I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco VPN
ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
corruption was in the profile itself.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


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Greetings, Brain Trust: 
  
I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler. 
  
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down. 
  
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine. 
  
Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done: 
  
1)   reloaded the VPN software. 
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine. 
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

  
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD. 
  
When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request). 
  
Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to 

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan
Al:

 

I knew what you meant, and that was the first thing I did, thinking the
client software got hammered somehow by some other misbehaved software
(or whatever).  No change.  Like I said, if somebody else logs in from
her machine, it's fine.  If she tries to log in from another machine, it
breaks.  Gotta be something in AD.

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I just realized my response was misleading.

 

I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco VPN
ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
corruption was in the profile itself.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


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Greetings, Brain Trust: 
  
I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler. 
  
My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down. 
  
However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine. 
  
Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done: 
  
1)   reloaded the VPN software. 
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine. 
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

  
Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her 

Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread James Pogran

Have you considered token size? I've had trouble with cisco router
firmware that is older dropping udp packet sizes it didn't like with
accounts whose token is large. Believe Deji has some good blog posts
about it. If that is the case, a router firmware upgrade should help.
Is it a win2k or win2k3 domain?

James

On 1/19/07, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just realized my response was misleading.



I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco VPN
ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.



Al



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
corruption was in the profile itself.



Al



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.



BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you knew
that...



Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem




Steve;

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This would
bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask, my
laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
or some such.

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check with
a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious.



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


The contents contain privileged and/or confidential information intended
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Subject

[ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem










Greetings, Brain Trust:

I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down.

However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine.

Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done:

1)   reloaded the VPN software.
2)   Tried to have her log on from another machine.
3)   Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.


Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD.

When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), 

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Jeff Salisbury
Steve - Check the Dial-in tab settings on the user's account in AD.
Depending on how your VPN3000 is authenticating, these settings may or
may not be checked. One other possibility - I vaguely remember having an
issue before we had our VPN3000s authenticate against Cisco ACS where
users with passwords longer than 14 characters could not authenticate.
If you shortened the password, it worked fine.
 
Jeff
 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:26 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



Al:

 

I knew what you meant, and that was the first thing I did,
thinking the client software got hammered somehow by some other
misbehaved software (or whatever).  No change.  Like I said, if somebody
else logs in from her machine, it's fine.  If she tries to log in from
another machine, it breaks.  Gotta be something in AD.

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I just realized my response was misleading.

 

I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the
Cisco VPN ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and
Settings.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile
on the laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like
the corruption was in the profile itself.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had
experience with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it
worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But
you knew that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing?
This would bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client
isn't at fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago.
Don't ask, my laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like
4.881720344-1 or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but
check with a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be
obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


The contents contain privileged and/or confidential information
intended for the named recipient of this email. ETSI (Employee
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RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan
No on that as well - it was working until she tried to change her
password back to what it was after a (normal) password change at her
laptop.  Remember, her login (and ONLY hers) is broken no matter where
she log in, from any machine.  The problem is client software
independent.

Steve Egan (temp)
Systems/Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Pogran
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

Have you considered token size? I've had trouble with cisco router
firmware that is older dropping udp packet sizes it didn't like with
accounts whose token is large. Believe Deji has some good blog posts
about it. If that is the case, a router firmware upgrade should help.
Is it a win2k or win2k3 domain?

James

On 1/19/07, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just realized my response was misleading.



 I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco
VPN
 ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
 laptop.

 Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
 corruption was in the profile itself.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
 (Temp)
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
 with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.



 BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you
knew
 that...



 Steve Egan (temp)

 Systems/Network Engineer

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem




 Steve;

 Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This
would
 bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
 fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask,
my
 laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
 or some such.

 Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check
with
 a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious.



 Brent Eads
 Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

 Office: (312) 762-9224
 Fax: (312) 762-9275


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 Subject

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 Greetings, Brain Trust:

 I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
 and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

 My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
 software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
 week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
 from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to
crappy
 dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel
to
 go down.

 However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
 works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
 domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
 browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine.

 Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done:

 1)  

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Al Garrett
The password issue reminds me of times when people don't synchronize
their logins.I.E. they change their password at their desktop and
then their laptop is out of sync with the domain.

Try setting the VPN Client to log on to Windows first where she would
use her new password and then it will sync the laptop with the domain
again.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

No on that as well - it was working until she tried to change her
password back to what it was after a (normal) password change at her
laptop.  Remember, her login (and ONLY hers) is broken no matter where
she log in, from any machine.  The problem is client software
independent.

Steve Egan (temp)
Systems/Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Pogran
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

Have you considered token size? I've had trouble with cisco router
firmware that is older dropping udp packet sizes it didn't like with
accounts whose token is large. Believe Deji has some good blog posts
about it. If that is the case, a router firmware upgrade should help.
Is it a win2k or win2k3 domain?

James

On 1/19/07, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just realized my response was misleading.



 I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco
VPN
 ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
 laptop.

 Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
 corruption was in the profile itself.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
 (Temp)
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
 with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.



 BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you
knew
 that...



 Steve Egan (temp)

 Systems/Network Engineer

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem




 Steve;

 Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This
would
 bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
 fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask,
my
 laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
 or some such.

 Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check
with
 a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious.



 Brent Eads
 Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

 Office: (312) 762-9224
 Fax: (312) 762-9275


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 Please respond to
 ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

 To

 ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org

 cc



 Subject

 [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem










 Greetings, Brain Trust:

 I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
 and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

 My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
 software loaded into it.  It 

RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan
Jeff:

 

Yep, thought of that too.  Also, her password has been changed and
changed back, disabled, re-enabled, folded, spindled, and mutilated.  So
far, nothing.  See why I'm getting prematurely grey??  Password is only
7 characters long, BTW.  The most it has been is 13 characters.

 

Steve Egan 

Systems/Network Engineer

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jeff Salisbury
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:35 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Steve - Check the Dial-in tab settings on the user's account in AD.
Depending on how your VPN3000 is authenticating, these settings may or
may not be checked. One other possibility - I vaguely remember having an
issue before we had our VPN3000s authenticate against Cisco ACS where
users with passwords longer than 14 characters could not authenticate.
If you shortened the password, it worked fine.

 

Jeff

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:26 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

Al:

 

I knew what you meant, and that was the first thing I did,
thinking the client software got hammered somehow by some other
misbehaved software (or whatever).  No change.  Like I said, if somebody
else logs in from her machine, it's fine.  If she tries to log in from
another machine, it breaks.  Gotta be something in AD.

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I just realized my response was misleading.

 

I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the
Cisco VPN ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and
Settings.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile
on the laptop.

Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like
the corruption was in the profile itself.

 

Al

 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had
experience with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it
worked fine.

 

BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But
you knew that...

 

Steve Egan (temp)

Systems/Network Engineer





From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 


Steve; 

Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing?
This would bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client
isn't at fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago.
Don't ask, my laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like
4.881720344-1 or some such. 

Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but
check with a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be
obvious. 



Brent Eads
Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

Office: (312) 762-9224
Fax: (312) 762-9275


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RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Steve Egan
Al:

Her laptop IS her desktop.  I don't think that's the problem.  Remember
what I said about how the problem follows her login even on another
machine!

Steve Egan
Systems/Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:53 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

The password issue reminds me of times when people don't synchronize
their logins.I.E. they change their password at their desktop and
then their laptop is out of sync with the domain.

Try setting the VPN Client to log on to Windows first where she would
use her new password and then it will sync the laptop with the domain
again.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:44 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

No on that as well - it was working until she tried to change her
password back to what it was after a (normal) password change at her
laptop.  Remember, her login (and ONLY hers) is broken no matter where
she log in, from any machine.  The problem is client software
independent.

Steve Egan (temp)
Systems/Network Engineer

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James Pogran
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 4:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

Have you considered token size? I've had trouble with cisco router
firmware that is older dropping udp packet sizes it didn't like with
accounts whose token is large. Believe Deji has some good blog posts
about it. If that is the case, a router firmware upgrade should help.
Is it a win2k or win2k3 domain?

James

On 1/19/07, Al Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I just realized my response was misleading.



 I deleted and recreated the VPN Connection Profile within the Cisco
VPN
 ClientNOT the users computer profile under Documents and Settings.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Al Garrett
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:10 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 I had similar issues and solved them by recreating the Profile on the
 laptop.

 Same settings, just created an identical Profile. Almost like the
 corruption was in the profile itself.



 Al



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
 (Temp)
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:06 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem



 Did that.  It was the first thing I looked at, having had experience
 with RADIUS before.  I created a user on the 3000, and it worked fine.



 BTW, we use the Kerberos/Active Directory authentication.  But you
knew
 that...



 Steve Egan (temp)

 Systems/Network Engineer

 

 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 3:00 PM
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem




 Steve;

 Just for kicks. Could you create a local account for testing? This
would
 bypass any RADIUS/TAC+ problems and confirm the VPN client isn't at
 fault. Also, Cisco released a new client about a week ago. Don't ask,
my
 laptop is stored for the weekend. Something like 4.881720344-1
 or some such.

 Anyhow, it sounds like a RADIUS problem within the server but check
with
 a local account on the 3000 just to eliminate what should be obvious.



 Brent Eads
 Employee Technology Solutions, Inc.

 Office: (312) 762-9224
 Fax: (312) 762-9275


 The contents contain privileged and/or confidential information
intended
 for the named recipient of this email. ETSI (Employee Technology
 Solutions, Inc.) does not warrant that the contents of any
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 reader of this email is not the intended recipient you are hereby
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 information contained in the email in error, please reply to us
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 Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 01/19/2007 04:39 PM

 

RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Salandra, Justin A.
Exchange has about 2700 users on it, and yes I will have a GC in the
hotsite.  The majority of users are in the forest root.  Exchange and
the DC/GC's will be the only items in the hotsite.  Also, the odds of
all 8 domains being down at once are very small due to significant
distance between sites.

 

If Exchange fails over then all 2700 would be connecting there.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Coleman, Hunter
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 4:25 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

 

IMHO, ESX/VM Infrastructure and Virtual Server are like apples and
oranges. Yes, they are both virtualization environments, but have vastly
different capabilities. VM Infrastructure has a much broader and deeper
feature set that does come with added cost and complexity.

 

Regardless, in the context of the original question I'd be concerned
about the load Exchange is going to place on the host hardware. How many
Exchange users are in the 8 domains, and how many of these would
potentially be connecting to the alternate site? Are you going to have
GC availability to support Exchange? What other resources at the hotsite
might be looking for DC/GC services?

 

I would also be careful about having a configuration at my hotsite that
is significantly different from my normal production environment. When
things have melted down to the point of failing over to the hotsite,
it's not a good time to be pulling out the manuals for your
infrastructure because you don't work with it day in and day out.

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Akomolafe, Deji
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:22 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

ESX (VMWare) is good - and pricey. And very strict as to hardware specs.
And complex to setup and administer. And, I could be wrong on this, NOT
(MS)-supported for virtualizing DCs.

 

Virtual Server, on the other hand, is good, not pricey, less picky, more
supported (I believe it's actually validated) for DCs virtualization.
Plus, the liberal OS licensing scheme is very attractive to me.

 

Yes, I know, VMWare rules the market. Yes, I am biased.

 

  
Sincerely, 
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know IT
-5.75, -3.23
Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about
Yesterday? -anon

 



From: Salandra, Justin A.
Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 11:57 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

What would you recommend for the following situation.

 

We are thinking of having a hot site where Exchange will be replicated
to a remote location.  Since Exchange will be remote over the Internet,
we will need to have DC's for each domain available in that remote site.
(This would all be going across a VPN)

 

I was thinking about placing 8 DC's on a VMWare Infrastructure 3 server
Enterprise edition.  These DC's would really only be used in the event
of a disaster and people started connecting to Exchange up in the remote
site.

 

Is VMWare Infrastructure 3 good?  What would you use?

 

Justin A. Salandra

MCSE Windows 2000  2003

Network and Technology Services Manager

Catholic Healthcare System

646.505.3681 - office

917.455.0110 - cell

[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

 



Re: [ActiveDir] E-Mail Template

2007-01-19 Thread Albert Duro
To the best of my recollection, there was no way in 5.5 to do what you want 
without resorting to serious scripting and programming.  The only way to put in 
a disclaimer was with third party products, like, I believe, Minesweeper.  
That's one of the many reasons that the whole world has moved on to 03, and MS 
has stopped supporting 5.5.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Milton Sancho 
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 2:20 PM
  Subject: [ActiveDir] E-Mail Template


  Hello,

   How to create an e-mail template using exchange 5.5?

   The idea is that when any employee compose a new e-mail,  at the bottom of 
the message has included a company message that would be the same for all the 
employees. 

   I know that at user level i can create a local signature but I need that  
information at corporate level, it has to be a way to do it at server level 
config !

   Thanks for comments about it


Re: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Albert Duro
yes, we have no bananas

  - Original Message - 
  From: Akomolafe, Deji 
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org 
  Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 3:43 PM
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


  :)

  Interesting points, again. Did I remember to say that I am biased? I think 
so. I expect that I'm going to catch some flaks for what I'm about to write, 
but .

  These do not make VS and ESX apples and oranges. VMotion, Host clustering. 
Different nomenclature, different capabilities, same purpose, Resource 
allocation guarantee, CPU Resource allocation weight.

  Superior Networking capabilities. Sure. Does VS have networking capabilities? 
Of course. Does ESX integrate with AD as well as VS? Does it run on Windows? 
Support software iSCSI? Live backup and Shadow Copy? (OK, if you count VCB and 
its proxy).

  Administration - show of hands, quick - ESX or VS, which is easier and less 
complex to deploy and administer? Which has easier and faster client deployment 
option?

  I swear, I have NOT drunk any kool-aid, but I think people's perceptions of 
the superiority of ESX over VS is largely driven by a combination of historical 
trends, myths, marketing and the unavoidable Winblows Sux mentality. Since we 
are on a Windows-centric list here, I do not mind admitting that I do not 
subscribe to the notion that if it's not Windows, it must be better than 
Windows. Mind you, Hunter, I am NOT implying that this is where you are coming 
from, but the reason I asked you to enunciate the reasoning behind your 
thinking was because I was hoping to hear something I haven't heard before on 
this issue.

  VS certainly wasn't as feature-rich as ESX a couple of revs back. The gap is 
considerably narrowed with what's currently going into VS and what ESX 3.0.1 
has today. Will VS catch and surpass ESX in a few months, no. Will it ever 
catch up, maybe. But, today, if we factor in the cost overlay (in licensing, 
hardware and administrative values), and discount our preconceived (or 
received) notions of ESX superiority, and give VS (as of SP1 Beta 2) a fair 
shake, one would be pleasantly surprised at how narrow the gap really is.

  To me, these 2 products are all bananas - one is a just banana and the 
other is organic banana. They are certainly not more apple and orange than 
your convertible and my jalopy are apple and orange. They are both 
virtualization tools, and they each serve the same purpose. One is cheap (like, 
FREE cheap, while giving you liberal Windows licensing terms and flexibility to 
boot), the other is not.

  Now, I'm off to find my Teflon :)


  Sincerely, 
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   ) /|_/(__(_) // (_(_)(/_(_(_/(__(/_
  (_/ /)  
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  Microsoft MVP - Directory Services
  www.akomolafe.com - we know IT
  -5.75, -3.23
  Do you now realize that Today is the Tomorrow you were worried about 
Yesterday? -anon


--
  From: Coleman, Hunter
  Sent: Thu 1/18/2007 2:21 PM
  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


  On the Virtual Infrastructure side: Moving running guests across hosts 
(vmotion), the network configuration options, lower host overhead, grouping 
hosts into resource pools and allowing guests to automatically migrate based on 
allocation guarantees, 4-way SMP guests, 64-bit guests :-

  Nothing wrong with Virtual Server, but I see it more on par with VMware 
Server than ESX/Virtual Infrastructure.



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  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


  Interesting points, Hunter.

  Not to engage in a holy war or something, but would you mind mentioning what 
makes one of these Orange and the other Apple (the fruit)? No, don't mention 
64-bit Guest, thank you very much :)[1]


  [1]Grumbling I wish MS will hurry up on this front already. /grumbling

  Sincerely, 
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Yesterday? -anon


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  To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
  Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


  

Re: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread ChuckGaff
Btw, internally Microsoft doesn't recommend Exchange virtually due to I/O 
issues ...  It's possible to run DCs on Virtual Server but I have questions 
about 
possible issues that I've heard about doing this.

Chuck


RE: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

2007-01-19 Thread Brian Desmond
Steve-

 

I don't understand your problem.

 

Is this an IAS issue with AD authentication? Is this a PIX config issue?
Is this just a screwed up laptop issue? I'm lost.

 

I wrote a couple articles on my blog (click the cisco category in the
tag cloud) specifically about integrating IOS and PIX with IAS/AD. Have
set it up for several people and it works fine.

 

IAS logs an event with a reason for failed auth every time it fails an
auth in the system log. You can enable aaa debugging on the PIX for info
there. Now I just read you have a VPN 3000 - never touched one - maybe
it has AAA debugging type stuff? 

 

Thanks,

Brian Desmond

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c - 312.731.3132

 

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Steve Egan
(Temp)
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 5:39 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Cisco VPN user authentication problem

 

Greetings, Brain Trust:

 

I've been troubleshooting a VPN access problem for about two days now
and have almost scratched a groove in my head - this one's a puzzler.

 

My boss has an IBM Lenovo T60 laptop that has the Cisco VPN client
software loaded into it.  It was working just fine up until the third
week of December, allowing her to use Dialup to get into our HQ domain
from her house.  When the logins failed, I thought it was due to crappy
dialup connection, since noise in the link will cause the VPN tunnel to
go down.

 

However, I just got her link at her house to go on wireless, and it
works just spiffy (11M up/down), and she still can't log on to the
domain with the VPN software.  The connection works just fine, she can
browse with no problem.  OWA works just fine.

 

Here's some of the troubleshooting I've done:

 

1)  reloaded the VPN software.

2)  Tried to have her log on from another machine.

3)  Changed the Group authentication (made a new one) just for her.

 

Nothing seems to work.  She logs in to the domain normally from her desk
at work using either the wireless in the laptop, or via the Ethernet
connection.  Anybody else can use her laptop to get in via the VPN, so
it's not the drivers or hardware.  Her problem is replicated from
ANYBODY's laptop utilizing the VPN software.  It's got to be her
account, which is why I think it's something screwed up in AD.

 

When I monitor her attempts to log into the VPN concentrator (a Cisco
3000), sometimes it says the IKE isn't working, sometimes it says
there's no domain (domain = {not specified}), sometimes it never talks
to the 3000 at all (according to the log and the way it comes right back
with the username/password request).

 

Want to get even more confused?  This problem started when she attempted
to change her password back to what it was - she went through the AD
administration on the primary AD box and got some kind of error.  Ever
since then, things just ain't the same.  I think something got scrambled
in her account.  We tried disabling her account for 5 minutes and then
re-enabling, but nothing's worked.

 

Where should I look to see if something's amiss?  I'm kinda stumped.

 

Steve Egan 

Systems/Network Engineer

 



RE: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server

2007-01-19 Thread Akomolafe, Deji
I don't think that is a Microsoft position. Probably a personal preference 
and opinion of the internal people. Publicly, MS supports Exchange 
virtualization starting from E2K3 SP2, running on VS R2.


Sincerely, 
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Fri 1/19/2007 8:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Remote DC's on Virtual Server


Btw, internally Microsoft doesn't recommend Exchange virtually due to I/O 
issues ...  It's possible to run DCs on Virtual Server but I have questions 
about possible issues that I've heard about doing this.

Chuck


[ActiveDir] OT: (only sort of as they will yet all you when the calendars are all messed up) Recorded webcast on Daylight savings patching

2007-01-19 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
http://blogs.msdn.com/mthree/archive/2007/01/19/now-available-webcast-on-windows-2000-updates-for-daylight-saving-time.aspx 


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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: (only sort of as they will yet all you when the calendars are all messed up) Recorded webcast on Daylight savings patching

2007-01-19 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

...that should read

yell at you

not yet all you

(Mountain Dew wearing off...)

Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP] wrote:
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