RE: [ActiveDir] AD Defrag

2005-12-14 Thread neil.ruston



Agreedbut the poster specifically asked for proactive 
measures. I merely offered such a measure.

:)

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Grillenmeier, 
GuidoSent: 13 December 2005 20:18To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag

I would not even begin to worry at 80MB - it's worth 
thinking about it again if it's grown to 10 times that size, which it won't do 
without a reason (i.e. you're creating new objects in AD or adding more data to 
existing objects). AD is quite good as re-using existing whitespace 
in the database (e.g. after deletion of obsolete objects and passing tombstone 
lifetime), so that you shouldn't see it grow just for the fun of 
it.

At 80MB you're AD size is basically only a fraction of the 
complete SystemState you need to backup to ensure recovery and letting it grow 
some more will still not impact recovery times too much. I usually work 
with multi-GB AD sizes, and even here you don't do offline defrags too 
regularily (unless there is a concrete need to do so).

/Guido


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 
09:44To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] AD Defrag

There is a slightly more proactive approach - monitor the 
amount of whitespace in the database and defrag once this reaches n% of the 
database size.

e.g. if whitespace represents 50% of the database then 
offline defrag, when next convenient.

Whitespace can be monitored as follows:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/975c456e-8b79-4ace-8363-82543236dbb3.mspx

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil 
KirkpatrickSent: 12 December 2005 17:37To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/mo/winsrvmg/adpog/adpog3.mspx#EZAA

recommends that you do it on an "as needed" basis, as 
determined by available disk space, or after large batch delete 
operations.

-gil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
HogenauerSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 10:25 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag


Question:

I have 8 AD 
controllers in several locations. All have different database sizes ranging from 
45 MB to 80 MB. 
Is there a 
rule of when I should or when I need to do an offline defrag of the Database? 


I just had to 
defrag my mail store and I dont want to not be proactive with my Active 
Directory so Im looking for advice on when, why and how often I should do a 
defrag.

Thanks
Mike 

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Defrag

2005-12-13 Thread Grillenmeier, Guido



I would not even begin to worry at 80MB - it's worth 
thinking about it again if it's grown to 10 times that size, which it won't do 
without a reason (i.e. you're creating new objects in AD or adding more data to 
existing objects). AD is quite good as re-using existing whitespace 
in the database (e.g. after deletion of obsolete objects and passing tombstone 
lifetime), so that you shouldn't see it grow just for the fun of 
it.

At 80MB you're AD size is basically only a fraction of the 
complete SystemState you need to backup to ensure recovery and letting it grow 
some more will still not impact recovery times too much. I usually work 
with multi-GB AD sizes, and even here you don't do offline defrags too 
regularily (unless there is a concrete need to do so).

/Guido


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Dienstag, 13. Dezember 2005 
09:44To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: 
[ActiveDir] AD Defrag

There is a slightly more proactive approach - monitor the 
amount of whitespace in the database and defrag once this reaches n% of the 
database size.

e.g. if whitespace represents 50% of the database then 
offline defrag, when next convenient.

Whitespace can be monitored as follows:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/prodtechnol/windowsserver2003/library/Operations/975c456e-8b79-4ace-8363-82543236dbb3.mspx

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Gil 
KirkpatrickSent: 12 December 2005 17:37To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/mo/winsrvmg/adpog/adpog3.mspx#EZAA

recommends that you do it on an "as needed" basis, as 
determined by available disk space, or after large batch delete 
operations.

-gil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
HogenauerSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 10:25 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag


Question:

I have 8 AD 
controllers in several locations. All have different database sizes ranging from 
45 MB to 80 MB. 
Is there a 
rule of when I should or when I need to do an offline defrag of the Database? 


I just had to 
defrag my mail store and I dont want to not be proactive with my Active 
Directory so Im looking for advice on when, why and how often I should do a 
defrag.

Thanks
Mike 

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RE: [ActiveDir] AD Defrag

2005-12-12 Thread Gil Kirkpatrick



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/itsolutions/cits/mo/winsrvmg/adpog/adpog3.mspx#EZAA

recommends that you do it on an "as needed" basis, as 
determined by available disk space, or after large batch delete 
operations.

-gil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mike 
HogenauerSent: Monday, December 12, 2005 10:25 AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] AD 
Defrag


Question:

I have 8 AD 
controllers in several locations. All have different database sizes ranging from 
45 MB to 80 MB. 
Is there a 
rule of when I should or when I need to do an offline defrag of the Database? 


I just had to 
defrag my mail store and I dont want to not be proactive with my Active 
Directory so Im looking for advice on when, why and how often I should do a 
defrag.

Thanks
Mike