RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread neil.ruston



I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would 
doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.

What is the (perceived) issue with the 
case?

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, 
DevonSent: 08 December 2005 14:08To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case





Is there any way to change the case 
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example, 
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have 
this:

- 
domain.com
 
+ child1.domain.com
 
+ child2.domain.com
 
+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
 
+ child4.domain.com

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM 
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree 
in ADUC.

Devon 
Harding
Windows Systems 
Engineer
Southern Wine  Spirits 
- BSG
954-602-2469





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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Harding, Devon








Mainly asthetics. I really would like all
domains to look uniform. Can this be modified in AD? Admod or adsiedit?











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I suspect a domain rename
is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in
this scenario.



What is the (perceived)
issue with the case?



neil







From:
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 Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example,
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:



- domain.com


+ child1.domain.com


+ child2.domain.com


+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM


+ child4.domain.com



I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to
child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree
in ADUC.



Devon Harding

Windows
Systems Engineer

Southern
Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469









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Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

Well... sometimes not exactly.

The Dell OEM image was built and it flips the preWin2k AD name to lower 
case from the normal upper case.


WSUS doesn't like that during their install.

Sometimes case does matter.

Harding, Devon wrote:

Mainly asthetics.  I really would like all domains to look uniform.  
Can this be modified in AD? Admod or adsiedit?


 




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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:24 AM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

 

I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that 
the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.


 


What is the (perceived) issue with the case?

 


neil



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Harding, Devon

*Sent:* 08 December 2005 14:08
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all 
upper-case to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active 
Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:


 


- domain.com

   + child1.domain.com

   + child2.domain.com

   + CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

   + child4.domain.com

 

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also 
exist when I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.


 


_Devon__ Harding_

//Windows Systems Engineer//

//Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG//

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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread neil.ruston
I think you're referring to computer names and not domain names(?)

The OP related to domain names.


neil


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:32
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Well... sometimes not exactly.

The Dell OEM image was built and it flips the preWin2k AD name to lower
case from the normal upper case.

WSUS doesn't like that during their install.

Sometimes case does matter.

Harding, Devon wrote:

 Mainly asthetics.  I really would like all domains to look uniform.  
 Can this be modified in AD? Admod or adsiedit?

  

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 *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

  

 I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that 
 the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.

  

 What is the (perceived) issue with the case?

  

 neil

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 *Subject:* [ActiveDir] Domain case

 Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all 
 upper-case to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active 
 Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:

  

 - domain.com

+ child1.domain.com

+ child2.domain.com

+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

+ child4.domain.com

  

 I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also 
 exist when I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.

  

 _Devon__ Harding_

 //Windows Systems Engineer//

 //Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG//

 //954-602-2469//

  

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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
IMHO, a domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name 
needed to change. (different structure)
Just for changing the case in ADDT a domain rename is not needed. Just did it 
in my test environment by changing the case of the value of the attribute 
dnsRoot of the object CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain Name,DC=tld
 
The case in ADDT also changed. However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT 
RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know what the consequences are of doing it!)
It may look better, but WHO CARES? I would leave it as is. A small mistake and 
you could be in deep sh*t.
If it works, don't brake it!
 
Cheers,
Jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case


I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the 
benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.
 
What is the (perceived) issue with the case?
 
neil



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case



Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all upper-case 
to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I 
have this:

 

- domain.com

   + child1.domain.com

   + child2.domain.com

   + CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

   + child4.domain.com

 

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also exist when 
I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread joe



I went through this decision tree a long time ago, when I 
was upgrading a company from NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European 
admin enter the name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain 
name EU1 until afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to 
change it but never had the courage to actually do it. 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:10 
AMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
Domain case

Agree completely. 

I also assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, 
as well as in ADDT. [hence domain rename] 

If the only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then 
benefit versus pain is really skewed towards pain :)

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge deSent: 08 December 2005 15:52To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case


IMHO, a domain rename would 
be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to change. (different 
structure)
Just for changing the case in ADDT a domain 
rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the case of 
the value of the attribute "dnsRoot" of the object "CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain 
Name,DC=tld"

The case in ADDT also changed. However. 
although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know what the 
consequences are of doing it!)
It may look better, but WHO CARES? I would 
leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep sh*t.
If it works, don't brake it!

Cheers,
Jorge


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on 
behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 
PMTo: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] 
Domain case

I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would 
doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.

What is the (perceived) issue with the 
case?

neil


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, 
DevonSent: 08 December 2005 14:08To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case




Is there any way to change the case 
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example, 
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have 
this:

- domain.com
 
+ child1.domain.com
 
+ child2.domain.com
 
+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
 
+ child4.domain.com

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM 
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree 
in ADUC.

Devon 
Harding
Windows Systems 
Engineer
Southern Wine  Spirits 
- BSG
954-602-2469





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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
 I worked out how to change it but never had the courage to actually do it. 
 
same here. and that's why I say: I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know what 
the consequences are of doing it!)
 
it may be as simple as it looks... just changing the case of the value of the 
attribute...but the idea that things might go wrong (not sure what) - ;-((
 
Jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of joe
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 5:34 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case


I went through this decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a 
company from NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European admin enter the 
name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain name EU1 until 
afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to change it but 
never had the courage to actually do it. 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case


Agree completely. 
 
I also assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. 
[hence domain rename] 
 
If the only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain 
is really skewed towards pain :)
 
neil



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, 
Jorge de
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case


IMHO, a domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name 
needed to change. (different structure)
Just for changing the case in ADDT a domain rename is not needed. Just did it 
in my test environment by changing the case of the value of the attribute 
dnsRoot of the object CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain Name,DC=tld
 
The case in ADDT also changed. However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT 
RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know what the consequences are of doing it!)
It may look better, but WHO CARES? I would leave it as is. A small mistake and 
you could be in deep sh*t.
If it works, don't brake it!
 
Cheers,
Jorge



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case


I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the 
benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.
 
What is the (perceived) issue with the case?
 
neil



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case



Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all upper-case 
to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I 
have this:

 

- domain.com

   + child1.domain.com

   + child2.domain.com

   + CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

   + child4.domain.com

 

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also exist when 
I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Harding, Devon








Damn! Whats the worse that could
happen if I change the case?











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
10:52 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case









IMHO, a
domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to
change. (different structure)





Just for changing the case in ADDT a
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the
case of the value of the attribute dnsRoot of the object
CN=Domain Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain
Name,DC=tld











The case in ADDT also changed.
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know
what the consequences are of doing it!)





It may look better, but WHO CARES? I
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep sh*t.





If it works, don't brake it!











Cheers,





Jorge















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





I suspect a domain rename
is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in
this scenario.



What is the (perceived)
issue with the case?



neil







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding,
 Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case of
a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example, when
I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:



- domain.com


+ child1.domain.com


+ child2.domain.com


+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM


+ child4.domain.com



I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain
tree in ADUC.



Devon Harding

Windows
Systems Engineer

Southern
Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469









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Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Susan Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]

No, it's lowercase preWin2k Active directory naming.

You cannot install Windows Server Update Services 2.0 on a computer that 
is running an original equipment manufacturer version of Windows Small 
Business Server 2003:

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;906798

WSUS does not like a lowercase prewin2k naming.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I think you're referring to computer names and not domain names(?)

The OP related to domain names.


neil


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley,
CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:32
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Well... sometimes not exactly.

The Dell OEM image was built and it flips the preWin2k AD name to lower
case from the normal upper case.

WSUS doesn't like that during their install.

Sometimes case does matter.

Harding, Devon wrote:

  
Mainly asthetics.  I really would like all domains to look uniform.  
Can this be modified in AD? Admod or adsiedit?


 


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[EMAIL PROTECTED]

*Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:24 AM
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

 

I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that 
the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.


 


What is the (perceived) issue with the case?

 


neil

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*From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Harding, 
Devon

*Sent:* 08 December 2005 14:08
*To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
*Subject:* [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all 
upper-case to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active 
Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:


 


- domain.com

   + child1.domain.com

   + child2.domain.com

   + CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

   + child4.domain.com

 

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also 
exist when I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.


 


_Devon__ Harding_

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//Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG//

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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Harding, Devon








So you know exactly how I feel Joe. I
really, really, really would like to fix this. Joe can you dig up the doc on
how to do this?











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





I went through this
decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a company from NT to 2K and
went to Europe I let the European admin enter
the name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain name EU1
until afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to change
it but never had the courage to actually do it. 









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[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
11:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case

Agree completely. 



I also assumed that the
name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. [hence domain rename] 



If the only requirement
is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain is really skewed towards
pain :)



neil









From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





IMHO, a
domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to
change. (different structure)





Just for changing the case in ADDT a
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the
case of the value of the attribute dnsRoot of the object
CN=Domain Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain
Name,DC=tld











The case in ADDT also changed.
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know
what the consequences are of doing it!)





It may look better, but WHO CARES? I
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep sh*t.





If it works, don't brake it!











Cheers,





Jorge















From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





I suspect a domain rename
is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in
this scenario.



What is the (perceived)
issue with the case?



neil







From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding,
 Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example,
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:



- domain.com


+ child1.domain.com


+ child2.domain.com


+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM


+ child4.domain.com



I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain
tree in ADUC.



Devon Harding

Windows
Systems Engineer

Southern
Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469









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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread joe
Oh now that is completely silly.

Especially for an OS that is traditionally case insensitive.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan Bradley, CPA
aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:02 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

No, it's lowercase preWin2k Active directory naming.

You cannot install Windows Server Update Services 2.0 on a computer that is
running an original equipment manufacturer version of Windows Small Business
Server 2003:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;906798

WSUS does not like a lowercase prewin2k naming.




[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I think you're referring to computer names and not domain names(?)

 The OP related to domain names.


 neil


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Susan 
 Bradley, CPA aka Ebitz - SBS Rocks [MVP]
 Sent: 08 December 2005 15:32
 To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 Subject: Re: [ActiveDir] Domain case

 Well... sometimes not exactly.

 The Dell OEM image was built and it flips the preWin2k AD name to 
 lower case from the normal upper case.

 WSUS doesn't like that during their install.

 Sometimes case does matter.

 Harding, Devon wrote:

   
 Mainly asthetics.  I really would like all domains to look uniform.  
 Can this be modified in AD? Admod or adsiedit?

  

 -
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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *Sent:* Thursday, December 08, 2005 9:24 AM
 *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 *Subject:* RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

  

 I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that 
 the benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.

  

 What is the (perceived) issue with the case?

  

 neil

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 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Harding, 
 Devon
 *Sent:* 08 December 2005 14:08
 *To:* ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
 *Subject:* [ActiveDir] Domain case

 Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all 
 upper-case to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active 
 Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:

  

 - domain.com

+ child1.domain.com

+ child2.domain.com

+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

+ child4.domain.com

  

 I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also 
 exist when I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.

  

 _Devon__ Harding_

 //Windows Systems Engineer//

 //Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG//

 //954-602-2469//

  

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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread joe



This is the only thing I would be willing to point 
at

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/downloads/winsrvr/domainrename.mspx




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, 
DevonSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:09 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case


So you know exactly how 
I feel Joe. I really, really, really would like to fix this. Joe can 
you dig up the doc on how to do this?





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of joeSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:34 
AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case

I went 
through this decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a company from 
NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European 
admin enter the name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain 
name EU1 until afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to 
change it but never had the courage to actually do it. 





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:10 
AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case
Agree 
completely. 

I also 
assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. [hence 
domain rename] 

If the 
only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain is 
really skewed towards pain :)

neil




From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge 
deSent: 08 December 2005 
15:52To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case


IMHO, a 
domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to 
change. (different structure)

Just for changing the case in ADDT a 
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the 
case of the value of the attribute "dnsRoot" of the object "CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain 
Name,DC=tld"



The case in ADDT also changed. 
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know 
what the consequences are of doing it!)

It may look better, but WHO CARES? I 
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep 
sh*t.

If it works, don't brake 
it!



Cheers,

Jorge





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case

I suspect 
a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs 
the pain in this scenario.

What is 
the (perceived) issue with the case?

neil



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Harding, DevonSent: 08 December 2005 14:08To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case
Is there any way to change the case 
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example, 
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have 
this:

- 
domain.com
 
+ child1.domain.com
 
+ child2.domain.com
 
+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
 
+ child4.domain.com

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM 
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree 
in ADUC.

Devon 
Harding
Windows 
Systems Engineer
Southern Wine 
 Spirits - BSG
954-602-2469




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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Harding, Devon








Only problem is not all our domains are
Windows 2003, which is a requirement for domren











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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
1:30 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





This is the only thing I
would be willing to point at



http://www.microsoft.com/technet/downloads/winsrvr/domainrename.mspx













From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding,
 Devon
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
1:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case

So you know exactly how I
feel Joe. I really, really, really would like to fix this. Joe can
you dig up the doc on how to do this?















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





I went
through this decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a company from
NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European
admin enter the name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain
name EU1 until afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to
change it but never had the courage to actually do it. 













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005
11:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case

Agree
completely. 



I also
assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. [hence
domain rename] 



If the
only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain is
really skewed towards pain :)



neil













From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





IMHO, a
domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to
change. (different structure)





Just for changing the case in ADDT a
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the
case of the value of the attribute dnsRoot of the object
CN=Domain Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain
Name,DC=tld











The case in ADDT also changed.
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know
what the consequences are of doing it!)





It may look better, but WHO CARES? I
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep sh*t.





If it works, don't brake it!











Cheers,





Jorge



















From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain
case





I
suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit
outweighs the pain in this scenario.



What is
the (perceived) issue with the case?



neil











From:
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 Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example,
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:



- domain.com


+ child1.domain.com


+ child2.domain.com


+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM


+ child4.domain.com



I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to
child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree
in ADUC.



Devon Harding

Windows
Systems Engineer

Southern
Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469













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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Ulf B. Simon-Weidner








The
worst thing that could happen?



The
domain name is stored in many instances, and if any domain or forest related
process hicks up because of binary different names you might loose your domain
or forest.



Thats
the worst case, but could it get any worse?



Issue
here is that nobody knows or would be willing to support this. Theoretically
changing the name to lowercase shouldnt influence anything, but is
anyone really sure that theres no application or process who relies on
the same domain name and does not a unsensitive case compare?





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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 5:29 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case





Damn! Whats the worse that could happen if I change the
case?















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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto,
Jorge de
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 10:52 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case









IMHO, a domain rename
would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to change.
(different structure)





Just for changing the case in ADDT a
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the
case of the value of the attribute dnsRoot of the object
CN=Domain Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain
Name,DC=tld











The case in ADDT also changed.
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know
what the consequences are of doing it!)





It may look better, but WHO CARES? I
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep sh*t.





If it works, don't brake it!











Cheers,





Jorge



















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Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case





I suspect a domain rename
is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs the pain in
this scenario.



What is the (perceived)
issue with the case?



neil











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example,
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have this:



- domain.com


+ child1.domain.com


+ child2.domain.com


+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM


+ child4.domain.com



I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain
tree in ADUC.



Devon
Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits
- BSG

954-602-2469













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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Almeida Pinto, Jorge de
you could still investigate what I said in a test environment and see what 
happens if you really want to do what you want.
 
Jorge



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Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 8:51 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
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Only problem is not all our domains are Windows 2003, which is a requirement 
for domren

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:30 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

 

This is the only thing I would be willing to point at

 

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/downloads/winsrvr/domainrename.mspx

 

 

 



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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:09 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

So you know exactly how I feel Joe.  I really, really, really would like to fix 
this.  Joe can you dig up the doc on how to do this?

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of joe
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:34 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

 

I went through this decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a 
company from NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European admin enter the 
name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain name EU1 until 
afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to change it but 
never had the courage to actually do it. 

 



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Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:10 AM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Agree completely. 

 

I also assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. 
[hence domain rename] 

 

If the only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain 
is really skewed towards pain :)

 

neil

 



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Jorge de
Sent: 08 December 2005 15:52
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

IMHO, a domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name 
needed to change. (different structure)

Just for changing the case in ADDT a domain rename is not needed. Just did it 
in my test environment by changing the case of the value of the attribute 
dnsRoot of the object CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain Name,DC=tld

 

The case in ADDT also changed. However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT 
RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know what the consequences are of doing it!)

It may look better, but WHO CARES? I would leave it as is. A small mistake and 
you could be in deep sh*t.

If it works, don't brake it!

 

Cheers,

Jorge

 



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

I suspect a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the 
benefit outweighs the pain in this scenario.

 

What is the (perceived) issue with the case?

 

neil



From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, Devon
Sent: 08 December 2005 14:08
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: [ActiveDir] Domain case

Is there any way to change the case of a child domain in AD from all upper-case 
to all lower-case?  Example, when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I 
have this:

 

- domain.com

   + child1.domain.com

   + child2.domain.com

   + CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM

   + child4.domain.com

 

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM to child3.domain.com.  This also exist when 
I try to browse the domain tree in ADUC.

 

Devon Harding

Windows Systems Engineer

Southern Wine  Spirits - BSG

954-602-2469

 



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RE: [ActiveDir] Domain case

2005-12-08 Thread Rick Kingslan



Correct. Devon, as much pain as there is in the 
process, AS I UNDERSTAND IT (I do not speak for PSS) the Domain Rename process 
is the only supported method of doing what you want to do.

Jorge's lab experiment does indicate that you might be able 
to do it alonghis describedway,but you need to be cautious 
when doing anything that is outside the supported methods. Though you 
might not be denied assistance, if the method chosen outside of the supported 
method proved to be a contributor to a problem some days, months, years down the 
road - PSS may defer the issue. As it is termed (which some hatethe 
wording) 'best effort' support may be all that would be 
offered.

And, if you have Exchange in the environment - it greatly 
complicates any of these, though the rename is still the safest 
route.

Me - I'd deal with the letter case and move on in 
life. There are so many other things that cause pain that a domain rename 
is not worth seeing all lower case in a dialog box.

But, that's me - YMMV.

Rick

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joeSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 12:30 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case

This is the only thing I would be willing to point 
at

http://www.microsoft.com/technet/downloads/winsrvr/domainrename.mspx




From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harding, 
DevonSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 1:09 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case


So you know exactly how 
I feel Joe. I really, really, really would like to fix this. Joe can 
you dig up the doc on how to do this?





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On Behalf Of joeSent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:34 
AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case

I went 
through this decision tree a long time ago, when I was upgrading a company from 
NT to 2K and went to Europe I let the European 
admin enter the name of the domain, I didn't catch the upper case on the domain 
name EU1 until afterward... It bothered the heck out of me, I worked out how to 
change it but never had the courage to actually do it. 





From: 
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On Behalf Of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 11:10 
AMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case
Agree 
completely. 

I also 
assumed that the name appeared 'wrongly' to users, as well as in ADDT. [hence 
domain rename] 

If the 
only requirement is to change the name in ADDT then benefit versus pain is 
really skewed towards pain :)

neil




From: 
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On Behalf Of Almeida Pinto, Jorge 
deSent: 08 December 2005 
15:52To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case


IMHO, a 
domain rename would be needed if the NetBIOS and/or DNS domain name needed to 
change. (different structure)

Just for changing the case in ADDT a 
domain rename is not needed. Just did it in my test environment by changing the 
case of the value of the attribute "dnsRoot" of the object "CN=Domain 
Name,CN=Partitions,CN=Configuration,DC=Domain 
Name,DC=tld"



The case in ADDT also changed. 
However. although I have shown it here I DO NOT RECOMMEND IT! (as I do not know 
what the consequences are of doing it!)

It may look better, but WHO CARES? I 
would leave it as is. A small mistake and you could be in deep 
sh*t.

If it works, don't brake 
it!



Cheers,

Jorge





From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
Thu 12/8/2005 3:23 PMTo: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: RE: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case

I suspect 
a domain rename is your only option and I would doubt that the benefit outweighs 
the pain in this scenario.

What is 
the (perceived) issue with the case?

neil



From: 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
On Behalf Of Harding, DevonSent: 08 December 2005 14:08To: 
ActiveDir@mail.activedir.orgSubject: [ActiveDir] Domain 
case
Is there any way to change the case 
of a child domain in AD from all upper-case to all lower-case? Example, 
when I look in Active Directory Domains  Trust, I have 
this:

- 
domain.com
 
+ child1.domain.com
 
+ child2.domain.com
 
+ CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM
 
+ child4.domain.com

I want to change CHILD3.DOMAIN.COM 
to child3.domain.com. This also exist when I try to browse the domain tree 
in ADUC.

Devon 
Harding
Windows 
Systems Engineer
Southern Wine 
 Spirits - BSG
954-602-2469




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