RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Theres a lot of room there for all of us. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Bruce is just riding on my coat tails -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jimmy Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree with Martin Tuip. Regards, /Jimmy -- Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.qadvice.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Alrighty then -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:53 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I've known Roger for a few years now, so the answer is : Both g -Original Message- From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Is that a stroke cause Roger is so intelligent - - -- - - -or a crack cause you think he's a big guy and wears a giant coat? :o) -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Theres a lot of room there for all of us. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Bruce is just riding on my coat tails -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jimmy Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree with Martin Tuip. Regards, /Jimmy -- Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.qadvice.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
I've known Roger for a few years now, so the answer is : Both g -Original Message- From: Craig Cerino [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Is that a stroke cause Roger is so intelligent - - -- - - -or a crack cause you think he's a big guy and wears a giant coat? :o) -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Theres a lot of room there for all of us. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Bruce is just riding on my coat tails -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jimmy Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree with Martin Tuip. Regards, /Jimmy -- Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.qadvice.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
All that work with Swiss-boy-ardee for that? That's the best you got? -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 8:11 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Theres a lot of room there for all of us. -Original Message- From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:33 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Bruce is just riding on my coat tails -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jimmy Andersson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:41 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree with Martin Tuip. Regards, /Jimmy -- Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.qadvice.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Cliff From a ROI and support point of view I would be sure to mention that after 12/31/03 MS will no longer provide support for NT4.0 and push them along with the suggestion that it would be better to have 2K up and running well for a while (in a mixed mode environment) before the cut your strings (as far as support goes). Just a suggestion. There are many other reasons besides AD (which is a good enough reason) More stable, quicker, etc etc -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ : http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Um - ditto :) -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
Sounds more like poor installations rather than a NT4 issue. -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ -- The information contained in this email message is privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the individual or entity to whom it is addressed. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copy of this message is strictly prohibited. If you have received this email in error, please immediately notify Veronis Suhler Stevenson by telephone (212)935-4990, fax (212)381-8168, or email ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and delete the message. Thank you. == List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/
RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory
I agree with Martin Tuip. Regards, /Jimmy -- Jimmy Andersson, Q Advice AB Microsoft MVP - Active Directory www.qadvice.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Martin Tuip Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 9:18 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I agree on that with you. Windows 2000 has been as stable as a rock. So besides that and the retiring of the support it should be an easy one. Martin Tuip MVP Exchange -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 8:21 PM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory To date, I haven't found an instance where NT4 was more stable than Win2k. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Jeremy Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 12:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I don't know if this will be of any importance, but I have seen several instances where windows 2000 is much more stable than NT4. Case in point, I was working for a defense contractor and we had 5 mail servers(exch. 5.5) and they notoriously went down. If we didn't reboot the servers once a week, they would go down. We took one of the lower tasked servers(500 users) and put it on windows 2000 and didn't have to reboot it for a month and it was still running like a champ. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Roger Seielstad Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:10 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Add to that the fact that Exchange 5.5 is end of support at the same time, and its pretty much a no brainer. -- Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE Sr. Systems Administrator Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity Atlanta, GA -Original Message- From: Van Donk, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:46 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory Cliff, I think that the link below says it all: http://microsoft.com/ntserver/ProductInfo/Availability/Retiring.asp No more support for NT4 after the end of this year. -Original Message- From: Clifford Airhart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, January 15, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [ActiveDir] Justications to Migrate to Active Directory I am currently compiling information and trying to find good justifications to migrate our Windows NT base network to Active Directory. We are a medium size company. We don't have any direct requirements to implement AD, like we must upgrade to Exchange2000(which requires AD). I can see a few benefits, but my management wants to see quantified justifications. For example, by migrating to AD you can save 1 hour in setting up a new user with RIS. Does anyone know I good website that would show time saved or something more concrete and specific than Microsoft's marketing jargon? Has anyone gone through a similar experience with their company? I would appreciate your insights and advice!!! Thanks!!! Cliff Airhart Answer Financial Inc. Senior Systems Administrator - Server Support / eBusiness [EMAIL PROTECTED] 818.644.4225 We answer to you. List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir% 40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org/mail_list.htm List FAQ: http://www.activedir.org/list_faq.htm List archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/activedir%40mail.activedir.org/ List info : http://www.activedir.org
