Re: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-27 Thread Tomasz Onyszko
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Speaking of scripting, all the cool kids in my circle seem to be getting
in to Python these days.  Anyone played with it here (AD scripting or
otherwise)?
I don't use it bu t I know some folks in POland whom are using python 
and they are saying it's wonderfull as scripting language for Win32 and AD

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-27 Thread Passo, Larry
To do a LDAP query for the separate domains, use the form:

LDAP//a/dc=a,dc=com
LDAP//b/dc=b,dc=com 
LDAP//c/dc=c,dc=com

Where a,b,c are the neBIOS names of the domains

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It's a webpage ASP, since we are only reading, permissions shouldn't be
a
problem.

jb 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do you have to worry
about that? 

Al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be
able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they
are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest,
but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the
phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're
after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post
the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the
necessary
information.  

al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't
work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can
I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to
query
a different DC for each domain.

Thanks,jb
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Mulnick, Al
It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

Thanks,jb
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread joe
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't
work

Nope. The WinNT provider is the legacy provider, there was no concept of
forests. You can use the LDAP provider to get the config container and then
query the crossref objects in the config container.

 if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I limit it

 so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query a
different 
 DC for each domain.

In general you set the base of your query to the domain you want. The issue
can come in with child and grandchild domains such as


root.com
child.root.com
grandchild.child.root.com

A subtree search of root on a GC will search child and grandchild as well. A
subtree search of child.root.com will search grandchild as well. At that
point, you need to scope your query tighter (i.e. focus on specific ou's) or
hit a DC for the specific domain and use the LDAP port, not the GC port. 


  joe


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Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

Thanks,jb

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Re: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Tomasz Onyszko
Jason Benway wrote:
We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)
I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.
Try to use query for LDAP://domain.com, for example:
SELECT samAccountName, distinguishedName FROM LDAP://domain.com WHERE 
objectCategory='Person' and objectClass='user'

or in LDAP syntax:
LDAP://domain.com;(objectCategory=person)(objectClass=user); dn, 
samAccountname, Name, WhenCreated

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Jason Benway
We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest, but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Mulnick, Al
Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do you have to worry
about that? 

Al 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest, but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Jason Benway
It's a webpage ASP, since we are only reading, permissions shouldn't be a
problem.

jb 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do you have to worry
about that? 

Al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest, but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

Thanks,jb
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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread Mulnick, Al
To do what you're after, you'll want to use ADSI with the LDAP provider vs.
the WINNT provider.

Joe gives a lot of great advice as a way to do what you're after.  

The query would look something like this with ado: 
LDAP://yourdomaincontroller_for_that_domain/dc=domain,dc=com;((objectCla
ss=Person)(objectCategory=User));distinguishedName,name,telephonenumber;subt
ree in your code.

Here's an interesting article on getting the domain controllers:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/dec04/hey1216.
mspx

If you're using ASP.NET, this might be of interest:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020730.htm


For just plain old ordinary script ripping though, this one looks pretty
like a pretty decent example
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1011ScriptType=vbscript

(note the strLDAPpath variable and how it's syntax is written; note: don't
use the whole script unless you want them to e able to disable the user
accounts :)
 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It's a webpage ASP, since we are only reading, permissions shouldn't be a
problem.

jb 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:39 PM
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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do you have to worry
about that? 

Al 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Benway
Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:20 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest, but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:50 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 1:36 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread joe
I would like to add that ASP is funny. I have seen occasions where
serverless binding acts hokey but if you specify a server it works just
fine. In fact in the Notes from the Field book there is a cool website by
Dave Trulli called dsinfo that does a serverless bind to a DC of a domain
and retrieves the rootdse, it then uses the dnshostname returned in that
query to do the rest of the work. 

Overall, I never really liked the ASP scripting model and tended to call out
to perl CGI scripts to the work. Too often you hear about vbs that works
great until it hits an ASP page. Then you have to start debugging access
rights and even if those are fine the scripting engines I think are
different.

  joe

 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 4:17 PM
To: ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

To do what you're after, you'll want to use ADSI with the LDAP provider vs.
the WINNT provider.

Joe gives a lot of great advice as a way to do what you're after.  

The query would look something like this with ado: 
LDAP://yourdomaincontroller_for_that_domain/dc=domain,dc=com;((objectCla
ss=Person)(objectCategory=User));distinguishedName,name,telephonenumber;subt
ree in your code.

Here's an interesting article on getting the domain controllers:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/dec04/hey1216.
mspx

If you're using ASP.NET, this might be of interest:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020730.htm


For just plain old ordinary script ripping though, this one looks pretty
like a pretty decent example
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1011ScriptType=vbscript

(note the strLDAPpath variable and how it's syntax is written; note: don't
use the whole script unless you want them to e able to disable the user
accounts :)
 

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It's a webpage ASP, since we are only reading, permissions shouldn't be a
problem.

jb 

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Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do you have to worry
about that? 

Al 

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We are working on a phonelist using AD.
Because we have multiple domains and domain name spaces, I want to be able
to filter each search request by the domain.

I want to have drop down the list the domains(a.com,b.com,c.com) they are
not subdomains it is a flat forest.

Right now we can use the GC and pull information from the entire forest, but
we cannot get ldap to work for each domain.

A quick domain list

A.com
Server1.a.com (DC)
Server2.a.com (GC)


B.com
Server1.b.com (DC)
Server2.b.com (GC)


I need to be able to list users from each domain seperately for the phone
list.

Hope this clears things up a little.

jb


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It would probably be better if you'd tell us what information you're after
and how you're going about getting it in your script.  If you can post the
logic or the whole script that would be helpful.

Keep in mind that the GC has a subset of information in it, so there are
times when you may need to go to the individual DC's to get the necessary
information.  

al 

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We have a large flat AD forest, with separate name spaces
(a.com,b.com,c.com,etc)

I have a few script questions.
First is there a way to retrieve each domain name, using winnt: doesn't work
Second, if I use GC, I can read information on all objects, but how can I
limit it so I can query only 1 domain at a time. If I use DC I have to query
a different DC for each domain.

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RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

2005-01-26 Thread joseph.e.kaplan
Serverless binding is at the mercy of the security context of the
currently executing thread.  The formula seems to be that it works if
the current thread is a domain account and silently finds nothing if it
is a local machine account.

You rarely get surprised by this with WScript and other things where you
created the process explicitly as it will get the security token of the
whoever ran it.  You don't really have impersonation in scripting
scenarios, so the account for the process is the only thing that
matters.  Thus, if you are logged in with your domain account and run
the script, serverless binding is going to just work.

Things tend to be more surprising and less predictable in web
applications because the execution is so much more complex and there are
so many more options involved.  

For example, IIS has both a process identity and possibly an
authenticated identity that can be impersonated on each request thread.
The process could be SYSTEM, or possibly NETWORK SERVICE or even a
totally different account.  SYSTEM and NETWORK SERVICE will both use the
machine account for network credentials, so then it matters whether the
web server is a domain member or not.  If another process runs the
request, then its account identity matters.

Add on that the authenticated account might be impersonated and might be
local machine or domain depending on various IIS settings, who actually
authenticated if anyone, etc., and the results can tend to vary wildly.
There are just so many moving parts!

You can actually predict what is going to happen very well if you know
what type of account is going to be on your thread, but it is very easy
not to know this.

Regarding ASP itself, I'm with you all the way.  I hate it hate it hate
it.  I think my hatred stems from the fact that the whole model resists
all attempts at being designed.  It wants you to write spaghetti code.
I also don't think VBScript is a very good scripting language, but I
like websites to be compiled anyway.  Everything is better in .NET :)

Speaking of scripting, all the cool kids in my circle seem to be getting
in to Python these days.  Anyone played with it here (AD scripting or
otherwise)?

Joe K.

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I would like to add that ASP is funny. I have seen occasions where
serverless binding acts hokey but if you specify a server it works just
fine. In fact in the Notes from the Field book there is a cool website
by
Dave Trulli called dsinfo that does a serverless bind to a DC of a
domain
and retrieves the rootdse, it then uses the dnshostname returned in that
query to do the rest of the work. 

Overall, I never really liked the ASP scripting model and tended to call
out
to perl CGI scripts to the work. Too often you hear about vbs that works
great until it hits an ASP page. Then you have to start debugging access
rights and even if those are fine the scripting engines I think are
different.

  joe

 

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Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

To do what you're after, you'll want to use ADSI with the LDAP provider
vs.
the WINNT provider.

Joe gives a lot of great advice as a way to do what you're after.  

The query would look something like this with ado: 
LDAP://yourdomaincontroller_for_that_domain/dc=domain,dc=com;((objec
tCla
ss=Person)(objectCategory=User));distinguishedName,name,telephonenumber;
subt
ree in your code.

Here's an interesting article on getting the domain controllers:
http://www.microsoft.com/technet/scriptcenter/resources/qanda/dec04/hey1
216.
mspx

If you're using ASP.NET, this might be of interest:
http://www.15seconds.com/issue/020730.htm


For just plain old ordinary script ripping though, this one looks pretty
like a pretty decent example
http://cwashington.netreach.net/depo/view.asp?Index=1011ScriptType=vbsc
ript

(note the strLDAPpath variable and how it's syntax is written; note:
don't
use the whole script unless you want them to e able to disable the user
accounts :)
 

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Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:49 PM
To: 'ActiveDir@mail.activedir.org'
Subject: RE: [ActiveDir] OT: limiting ldap query to single domain

It's a webpage ASP, since we are only reading, permissions shouldn't be
a
problem.

jb 

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Sure.  Is this VBSCRIPT?  What about permissions?  Do