Re: Ordering license upgrades
That is also a point. If you have say 1000 points you can use them for hundreds of MgSysLAN nodes and later Basic Edition processors. But you can also use them as about 10 but MgSysSAN nodes which should tranform to ITSM EE. And with points you had the right to change your mind. What about if you have mix of MgSysLAN and MgSysSAN nodes - which convert to Basic and which to Enterprise Edition. What a mess ... Regarding withdrawal from marketing - there is still no announcement for this withdrawal so you should be able to get it. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Ordering license upgrades And while we're on the subject of licenses and upgrades, I was informed by my reseller that Tivoli has withdrawn the TSM Enterprise Edition from marketing. All of the constituent parts are still available, but you can not purchase the bundle. Word is that it was too confusing to end users. I hope it didn't also have to do with the fact that our software quote went up by $70,000 when the change was made. -- Tom Thomas A. La Porte, DreamWorks SKG mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sat, 18 May 2002, Zlatko Krastev wrote: 'cause there is no published rule how to convert points to processors. I am trying to find the answer since the announcement of new licensing scheme but still without success. Just ask them for NN processors or MM points. In both cases you have the right to use them on different platforms. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Ordering license upgrades We have a TSM 4.2.1.9 server running under OS/390. We are about to order more client licenses. The last time we did this IBM and/or Tivoli required us to tell them how the new licenses would be divided among different platforms: how many for Windows NT, how many for AIX, and so on. The charge per client license is the same regardless of operating system. The 'register license' command does not provide any means for distinguishing between Windows NT licenses, AIX licenses, and so on. Why in the world do we need to provide platform information in order to get more client licenses?
TSM 4.2 ON SUN SOLARIS, USING OS/390 HSC 4.1 WITH LIBRARY STATION
We are currently testing TSM 4.2 on the following environment. SUN running TSM 4.2, STK9310 Tape Library using HSC and Library Station. The tape drive is 9840 Fiber Channel connected to Brocade 3800 and using Emulex HBA. We have several issues that we are trying to resolve and it looks like StorageTek is having a hard time resolving this issues. I appreciate if you have similar environment implementation and provide some feedback. Here are the issues: 1. Every time we reboot the SUN Server, we are getting a message says that ANR8860W Volume 53 is already locked by ISDBKP1 and to release the lock, we have to delete and defined the lock dataset definition on the library station and bounce HSC. 2. When a mount command issued by TSM to the Library Station, a bunch of mount message appears on the mainframe console and the request from TSM aborts. Thanks!
Re: Reclamation is not happening - HELP!
AFAIK during backup files are not 'marked' at all. They are just stored and during reclamation each file is compared to rules defined in its mgmtclass copygroup. That why reclamation takes so long. If you backup a file and according to *current* rules a version should expire, later update copygroup to retain more versions (or for longer period) and just afterward run expiration - the file should not be expired. If it is marked during backup/archive it would expire which would be against ADSM/TSM ideology and should be treated as bug. Jack, sometimes it helps to change reclamation/migration threshold to 100 and minute or two later to lower it. I've digged deeper to analyse why. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Reclamation is not happening - HELP! Jack, As TSM ages backup and archive data, the files only get 'marked' for deletion. You must run an EXPIRE INVENTORY command to actually flip the switch from 'marked' for deletion to deleted. Then your storage pool reclamation should work. That is, unless I am missing something too!!! 8-) John G. Talafous IS Technical Principal The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support P.O. Box 6927 Data Management 1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390 Canton, Ohio USA 44706-0927 Fax : (330)-471-4034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timken.com -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reclamation is not happening - HELP! My tape use is going up, but nothing is being reclaimed from my copy pool. I must have done something wrong, but where do I go to look for whatever is wrong first? What am I missing? I can find nothing in the activity log, and even when I do a update stg copypool rec=5 and it should recover a lot, nothing happens. Sometimes the process starts up, but will sit for hours and nothing gets reclaimed. Running TSM 4.1.5 on NT, with 3583 library and LTO drives. It has been working, but stopped earlier this week. ... TIA ... Jack
Re: Reclamation is not happening - HELP!
Not RECLAMATION, but EXPIRATION processing where the management class retention policies are applied to all the version of a file and extra or old versions are expired. TSM keeps track of how much data remains on a tape volume after expiration and reports this my the Pct. Reclaimable Space is a Q VOL xxx F=D output. When you set the storage pool to RECLAIM=something less than 100% TSM compares each tape volume in the storage pool with this value. Volumes that have a Pct. reclaimable Space = this value are reclaimed. Expiration processing is done automatically by setting the EXPINTERVAL in the server options file, or setting it to 0 and running it manually with the EXPIRE INVENTORY command. Offsite reclamation takes so long because TSM is recreating the offsite volume from onsite copies of the files. SO you may end up with several tape mounts, tape prositioning just to read a single file. Onsite reclamation takes the volume to be reclaimed as input, copies all the good data from it to another onsite tape volume. Bill Boyer DSS, Inc. -Original Message- From: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Zlatko Krastev Sent: Saturday, May 18, 2002 6:23 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reclamation is not happening - HELP! AFAIK during backup files are not 'marked' at all. They are just stored and during reclamation each file is compared to rules defined in its mgmtclass copygroup. That why reclamation takes so long. If you backup a file and according to *current* rules a version should expire, later update copygroup to retain more versions (or for longer period) and just afterward run expiration - the file should not be expired. If it is marked during backup/archive it would expire which would be against ADSM/TSM ideology and should be treated as bug. Jack, sometimes it helps to change reclamation/migration threshold to 100 and minute or two later to lower it. I've digged deeper to analyse why. Zlatko Krastev IT Consultant Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Re: Reclamation is not happening - HELP! Jack, As TSM ages backup and archive data, the files only get 'marked' for deletion. You must run an EXPIRE INVENTORY command to actually flip the switch from 'marked' for deletion to deleted. Then your storage pool reclamation should work. That is, unless I am missing something too!!! 8-) John G. Talafous IS Technical Principal The Timken CompanyGlobal Software Support P.O. Box 6927 Data Management 1835 Dueber Ave. S.W. Phone: (330)-471-3390 Canton, Ohio USA 44706-0927 Fax : (330)-471-4034 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.timken.com -Original Message- From: Coats, Jack [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 1:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Reclamation is not happening - HELP! My tape use is going up, but nothing is being reclaimed from my copy pool. I must have done something wrong, but where do I go to look for whatever is wrong first? What am I missing? I can find nothing in the activity log, and even when I do a update stg copypool rec=5 and it should recover a lot, nothing happens. Sometimes the process starts up, but will sit for hours and nothing gets reclaimed. Running TSM 4.1.5 on NT, with 3583 library and LTO drives. It has been working, but stopped earlier this week. ... TIA ... Jack
Performance again!!!
A comment about performance being 9 minutes to tape and 75 seconds to disk. Is it possible that most of the 9 minutes was tape mount and positioning time? Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Performance again!!! Hello everybody, It seems like TSM performance problems will neer end!!! Here is the new problem: The customer is running TSM 4.2.1.0 on a Windows 2000 server machine . An IBM rack case 82XX which contains a Quantum DLT8000 tape drive is connected to the server. The driver version for the Quantum DLT drive is 1.5 and is installed on the W2K machine. We tried a backup of 350MB on the local server with the Windows 2000 Backup utility and it took us approximately 75 seconds . Next , we tried the same Backup from TSM using its Device Driver and it took us about 9 minutes . We tried switching TSM to use the Native device driver but still we got the same performance result . So we upgraded to 4.2.2 ; In the Device Manager for TSM,we can see that TSMSCSI.exe is upgraded to 4.2.2.25 and the ADSMSCSI.sys is 4.2.2.3 . The server has a version of 4.2.2.25 . Still , we obtained poor backup performance . We suspected that maybe it was a database bottleneck ( eventhough it is still empty) ; so we tried the same Backup using TSM but the destination was on the HardDisk. The performance was good and the backup finished within 75seconds . So, we can eliminate the database problem. Also, we noticed with version 4.2.2.0 that it is crashing frequently . It was exiting abnormally . On the site of tivoli, the latest version of TSM server is 4.2.2 . We do not have the 5.1 release . does anyone have a suggestion? thx a lot Sandra __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com http://launch.yahoo.com/ Lee Fletcher Network Project Integrator Ameren Callaway Plant 573-676-4106 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: netbackup site?
Go to this web page: http://www.backupcentral.com/software-lists.html Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Nicolas Duchene [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 4:59 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: netbackup site? Hello TSMers, Do you have any idea if a netbackup site like this one exists? Thanks. Nicolas Duchêne Telematics Services Europe Advanced Technical Services Secured Storage Services Boulevard E. Paepsemlaan , 18E 1070 Brussels Rue du Commandant Naessens, 23 4431 Loncin BELGIUM Tel: +32.2.556.27.40 +32.4.263.16.37 see us also on our Web site : see us on the web at www.telematicsandservices.com TS did open its official SAN SOLUTION CENTER in October 2000, at its laboratory in Paepsem.
Re: tdpoconf, error, ANU2534E
Ok, thanks for your help, I`ve already make it work, it seems that tdpoconf does not pick the path by itself, the message is misleading because it does not has anything to do with an option error, thanks again. Luis From: Neil Rasmussen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tdpoconf, error, ANU2534E Date: Fri, 17 May 2002 07:54:42 -0700 Luis, I apologize, that is a pretty useless message (and not very helpful). But regardless, I think I can help you out. First off, are you using the tdpo.opt in the installation directory or are you defining it in your own directory? To start, I would use default installation directory /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin with the following in my tdpo.opt, substituting for your environment: In your /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/tdpo.opt: DSMI_ORC_CONFIG /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/dsm.opt TDPO_NODE node TDPO_OWNER owner In your /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/oracle/bin/dsm.opt: Servername your dsm.sys stanza servername In your /usr/tivoli/tsm/client/api/bin/dsm.sys: servername match from dsm.opt commm tcpip tcpport your TSM Server port number tcpsyour TSM Server address You should be able to establish a connection with your server with these basic settings. Then you should run tdpoconf password. Hope this helps. -- Date:Fri, 17 May 2002 03:23:15 + From:Luis Tapia [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: tdpoconf, error, ANU2534E Hi List, I`ve been trying to install TDP for Oracle for AIX 2.2.1 in a AIX 5.1 box, but I can not make the utility TDPOCONF work, it seems that my tdpo.opt file is not right but I cant not find where the problem is, when I issue and tdpoconf showenv or try to set the password I get an ANU 2534E Option file error the file tdpoerror.log is not very helpful, can somebody send me a working tdpo.opt/dsm.opt/dsm.sys set so i can use them as example? thanks for your help. Luis Regards, Neil Rasmussen Software Development TDP for Oracle [EMAIL PROTECTED] _ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx
Re: Tuning TSM
Yes, it is in the UNIX backup-archive client manual. Paul D. Seay, Jr. Technical Specialist Naptheon, INC 757-688-8180 -Original Message- From: Bern Ruelas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 5:58 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tuning TSM Hi Don, I looked for incrbydate in the installation guide and reference manual for this option but haven't found it. Can I use this for Solaris clients? -Bern Ruelas Cadence Design Systems - Storage Sr. Systems Engineer -Original Message- From: Don France (TSMnews) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 2:27 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Tuning TSM Reading thru this thread, no one has mentioned that backup will be slower than archive -- for TWO significant reasons: 1. The standard progressive-incremental requires alot of work in comparing the attributes of all files in the affected file systems, especially for a LARGE number of files/directories (whereas archive has minimal database overhead -- it just moves data). 2. Writes to disk are NOT as fast as tape IF the data can be delivered to the tape device at streaming speed; this is especially true if using no-RAID or RAID-5 for disk pool striping (with parity)... RAID-0 might compete if multiple paths controllers are configured. The big advantage to disk pools is more concurrent backup/archive operations, then disk-migration can stream offload the data to tape. So, firstly, debug fundamentals using tar and archive commands (to eliminate db overhead comparing file system attributes to identify changed files/objects); once you are satisfied with the thruput for archive, allow 20-50% overhead for daily incremental. If your best incremental experience is not satisfactory, (but archive is okay) consider other options discussed in the performance-tuning papers -- such as, reducing the number of files per file system, use incrbydate during the week, increase horsepower on the client machine and/or TSM server (depending on where the incr. bottlenecks are). The SHARE archives do not yet have the Nashville proceedings posted; when they do show up, they are in the members-only area (I was just there, searching for other sessions). - Original Message - From: Ignacio Vidal [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, May 17, 2002 6:30 AM Subject: Re: Tuning TSM Zlatko: OK: tcpwindowsize is in KBytes (actually my setting is 1280). I have the same question (why client is idling?). We have users working on that server from 9:00 until 22:00 (every day...), backup jobs start about 00:15/01:15 I've monitored the nodes in disk i/o operations and network transfers, in different moments of the day. About cpu load/memory usage/pagination: the values are all OK, for example: - cpu load (usr) has an average of 5~7 during all day - memory usage (have 7GB RAM) is not a problem (about 30~40% for computational the same for noncomp) - pagination: max use may be 10~12% (mostly of the day 0.5%, peaks during user's work time) Viewing your results (500GB in 3:10hs), and trying to compare: we're backing up 250GB starting 00:15 and ending 07:00... 250GB in 6:45hs (it's not good) Yesterday I set resource utilization = 10 too, and performance was the same (really a bit worst). I think there are multiple problems (and our provider -IBM- cannot help us): First of all: disk performance (IBM should tell us how to get the best from FastT500), we have from 15 to 25 MB/sec in the storage... Then: all TSM nodes in our installation have not the same file configuration. I explain a bit more this: we have nodes merging a lot of files (25) with an average size of 40KB each and a few files (1000) with an average size of 50MB (it's Oracle Financials: the database server keeps datafiles and files belonging to application and DB motor). We have 4 nodes such as just described, with a total of 35~40GB for each (average and growing...) Well, here was a brief description. I'm listening for new ideas. Thanks Ignacio -Mensaje original- De: Zlatko Krastev [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Enviado el: viernes, 17 de mayo de 2002 5:29 Para: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Asunto: Re: Tuning TSM Just a point TCPWindowsize parameter is measured in kilobytes not bytes. And according to Administrator's reference it must be between 0 and 2048. If not in range on client complains with ANS1036S for invalid value. On server values out of range mean 0, i.e. OS default. However this are side remarks. The main question is why client is idling. Have you monitored the node during to disk and to tape operation? Is migration starting during backup? Are you using DIRMC. You wrote client compression - what is the processor usage (user)? What is the disk load - is the processor I/O wait high? Is the paging space used - check with svmon -P. You should get much better results. For example recently we've achieved 500 GB in 3h10m - fairly good. It was similar to your config -
Re: Performance again!!!
hello, no it couldn't, because we calculated it excluding the mounting time when the data started to be transfered and written to the tape Thx Sandra --- Fletcher, Leland D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A comment about performance being 9 minutes to tape and 75 seconds to disk. Is it possible that most of the 9 minutes was tape mount and positioning time? Please respond to ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by:ADSM: Dist Stor Manager [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject:Performance again!!! Hello everybody, It seems like TSM performance problems will neer end!!! Here is the new problem: The customer is running TSM 4.2.1.0 on a Windows 2000 server machine . An IBM rack case 82XX which contains a Quantum DLT8000 tape drive is connected to the server. The driver version for the Quantum DLT drive is 1.5 and is installed on the W2K machine. We tried a backup of 350MB on the local server with the Windows 2000 Backup utility and it took us approximately 75 seconds . Next , we tried the same Backup from TSM using its Device Driver and it took us about 9 minutes . We tried switching TSM to use the Native device driver but still we got the same performance result . So we upgraded to 4.2.2 ; In the Device Manager for TSM,we can see that TSMSCSI.exe is upgraded to 4.2.2.25 and the ADSMSCSI.sys is 4.2.2.3 . The server has a version of 4.2.2.25 . Still , we obtained poor backup performance . We suspected that maybe it was a database bottleneck ( eventhough it is still empty) ; so we tried the same Backup using TSM but the destination was on the HardDisk. The performance was good and the backup finished within 75seconds . So, we can eliminate the database problem. Also, we noticed with version 4.2.2.0 that it is crashing frequently . It was exiting abnormally . On the site of tivoli, the latest version of TSM server is 4.2.2 . We do not have the 5.1 release . does anyone have a suggestion? thx a lot Sandra __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com http://launch.yahoo.com/ Lee Fletcher Network Project Integrator Ameren Callaway Plant 573-676-4106 [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? LAUNCH - Your Yahoo! Music Experience http://launch.yahoo.com
Remote Sequential DeviceClass
Hi TSM'ers My client wants his offsite backups not to go to tape but rather to his remote site across the WAN. The solution we decided on was to create a Sequential File Device Class on a Windows 2000 share and use this as a copy storage pool. Whenever I try and create it using the browser, I enter the directory name as \\10.0.0.7\tsmdata and it fails with the following error: ANR8366E DEFINE DEVCLASS: Invalid value for DIRECTORY parameter. I initially thought that is was 2000 that was responsible for this, so I tried it on another Win2K box with the same authorities/shares etc and it worked. I have even made the TSM server part of the Administrators Group on the remote Win2K box but still no joy. Any ideas Ta John
