[agi] What is MindForth?

2008-02-09 Thread A. T. Murray
From the rewrite-in-progress of the User Manual -- 

1.1 What is MindForth?

Mind.Forth AI is a rudimentary replica of the human mind 
programmed in the Forth programming language. The AI Mind 
is the software implementation of a theory of mind based on 
Chomskyan linguistics -- the rules and structures of thought in 
natural human language. The Forthmind software is an open-source 
free AI download in the public domain. It is not a chatbot. 
The AI engine is arguably the first True AI. It is immortal. 

ATM
-- 
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/mind4th.html
http://mentifex.virtualentity.com/m4thuser.html

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Re: [agi] Wozniak's defn of intelligence

2008-02-09 Thread Charles D Hixson

Richard Loosemore wrote:

J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:

On Friday 08 February 2008 10:16:43 am, Richard Loosemore wrote:

J Storrs Hall, PhD wrote:
Any system builders here care to give a guess as to how long it 
will be 

before
a robot, with your system as its controller, can walk into the 
average suburban home, find the kitchen, make coffee, and serve it?

Eight years.

My system, however, will go one better:  it will be able to make a 
pot of the finest Broken Orange Pekoe and serve it.


In the average suburban home? (No fair having the robot bring its own 
teabags, (or would it be loose tea and strainer?)  or having a coffee 
machine built in, for that matter). It has to live off the land...


Nope, no cheating.

My assumptions are these.

1)  A team size (very) approximately as follows:

- Year 1:   10
- Year 2:   10
- Year 3:   100
- Year 4:   300
- Year 5:   800
- Year 6:   2000
- Year 7:   3000
- Year 8:   4000

2)  Main Project(s) launched each year:

- Year 1:   AI software development environment
- Year 2:   AI software development environment
- Year 3:   Low-level cognitive mechanism experiments
- Year 4:   Global architecture experiments;
Sensorimotor integration
- Year 5:   Motivational system and development tests
- Year 6:   (continuation of above)
- Year 7:   (continuation of above)
- Year 8:   Autonomous tests in real world situations

The tests in Year 8 would be heavily supervised, but by that stage it 
should be possible for it to get on a bus, go to the suburban home, 
put the kettle on (if there was one: if not, go shopping to buy 
whatever supplies might be needed), then make the pot of tea (loose 
leaf of course:  no robot of mine is going to be a barbarian tea-bag 
user) and serve it.



Richard Loosemore

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FWIW, the average suburban home around here has coffee, but not tea.  So 
you've now added the test of shopping in a local supermarket.  I don't 
believe it.  Not in eight years.  It wouldn't be allowed past the cash 
register without human help.


Note that this has nothing to do with how intelligent the system is.  
Maybe it would be intelligent enough, if it's environment were sane.  
But a robot?  Either it would be seen as a Hollywood gimmick, or people 
would refuse to deal with it.


Robots will first appear in controlled environments.  Hospitals, home, 
stockrooms...other non-public-facing environments.  (I'm excluding 
non-humanoid robots.  Those, especially immobile forms, won't have the 
same level of resistance.)


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