RE: AI-GEOSTATS: validation of Simulation

2006-07-25 Thread Pierre Goovaerts
Hi Stefano,
 
First, I am not sure that stochastic simulation is necessary in your case
since you seem to be only interested in what I would call a measure
of local (or location-specific) uncertainty. MultiGaussian kriging would in 
theory
give you exactly the same results at less computational cost...of course
these days kriging doesn't look as sexy as simulation...
 
To validate the results, I would use the concept of accuracy plot introduced
by Clayton Deutch. This concept and others are explained in the paper:
Goovaerts, P. 2001. Geostatistical modelling of uncertainty in soil science. 
Geoderma, 103: 3-26. http://www.terraseer.com/training/geostats/geoder01.pdf  
that you can download from my webpage. 
Of course, you might also want to check the reproduction of target statistics,
such as histogram and variogram, but again it seems that in your
case your focus is on these probabilities of exceeding a particular threshold.
I discuss these issues in another publication:
Goovaerts, P. 2006. Geostatistical modeling of the spaces of local, spatial 
and response uncertainty for continuous petrophysical properties. Chapter in 
book Stochastic Modeling II published by the American Association of Petroleum 
Geologists... and I could send you a copy if you are interested...
 
An executable to compute the accuracy plot can be downloaded from:
http://ekofisk.stanford.edu/SCRFweb/GSLIB/added.html
 
Cheers,
 
Pierre 
 
Pierre Goovaerts
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Courtesy Associate Professor, University of Florida
President of PGeostat LLC
 
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Subject: AI-GEOSTATS: validation of Simulation



Hallo!
  I'm a Ph.D. students who works with Indoor Radon Data, and it's the
first time I join this list. I've a question for you: after
post-processing several Sequential Gaussian Simulation to obtain a
probability map of exceeding a given threshold, can someone suggests
me a clever way to validate the results? (of course, I've a
second dataset of measurements to use in this part of the work ;
variography and sgs do not know this data...)

  Thanks a lot and best regards,

stefano
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AI-GEOSTATS: geostatistical simulation questions

2006-07-25 Thread Thomas Adams

List:

I am interested in doing some geostatistical simulations using GSTAT and 
have some theoretical questions.


I am attempting to model hourly rainfall accumulations over a large 
region, so there will almost always be zero rainfall somewhere. I can 
generate random fields of precipitation, using both conditional and 
unconditional simulations using GSTAT. However, I get negative values as 
well as (mostly) positive values. The simulated fields otherwise look 
very reasonable. The data I used (and must use) to estimate my variogram 
has zero values where no rainfall occurs. What does this suggest to you? 
I am using gaussian simulation.


I have seen some references to more exotic geostatistcal simulation 
methods using bayesian or some other methods. Is this what I need?


From reading the literature, I have seen that some researchers have 
successfully used indicator kriging and simulation. With GSTAT I can 
successfully do simulations using 'method : is' rather than 'method : 
gs',  how using GSTAT do I model a continuous (non-binary) variable 
using the GSTAT syntax?


Regards to all,
Tom

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Ohio River Forecast Center
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RE: AI-GEOSTATS: geostatistical simulation questions

2006-07-25 Thread Pierre Goovaerts
Hi Thomas,
 
I am assuming that you transform your data before conducting
your (sequential?) Gaussian simulation. In this case, the backtransform
would yield only positive values, assuming of course that like S-GeMS Gstat
asks the user to specify the minimum and maximum of the target histogram.
 
Regards,
 
Pierre
 
Pierre Goovaerts
Chief Scientist at BioMedware Inc.
Courtesy Associate Professor, University of Florida
President of PGeostat LLC
 
Office address: 
516 North State Street
Ann Arbor, MI 48104
Voice: (734) 913-1098 (ext. 8)
Fax: (734) 913-2201 
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List:

I am interested in doing some geostatistical simulations using GSTAT and
have some theoretical questions.

I am attempting to model hourly rainfall accumulations over a large
region, so there will almost always be zero rainfall somewhere. I can
generate random fields of precipitation, using both conditional and
unconditional simulations using GSTAT. However, I get negative values as
well as (mostly) positive values. The simulated fields otherwise look
very reasonable. The data I used (and must use) to estimate my variogram
has zero values where no rainfall occurs. What does this suggest to you?
I am using gaussian simulation.

I have seen some references to more exotic geostatistcal simulation
methods using bayesian or some other methods. Is this what I need?

 From reading the literature, I have seen that some researchers have
successfully used indicator kriging and simulation. With GSTAT I can
successfully do simulations using 'method : is' rather than 'method :
gs',  how using GSTAT do I model a continuous (non-binary) variable
using the GSTAT syntax?

Regards to all,
Tom

--
Thomas E Adams
National Weather Service
Ohio River Forecast Center
1901 South State Route 134
Wilmington, OH 45177

EMAIL:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VOICE:  937-383-0528
FAX:937-383-0033

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