Re: [Alsa-user] OT: Recommendations for sound recording with SPDIF

2006-06-08 Thread Gordon McLellan
Greetings,

If you can find one you like with a coaxial sp/dif input (or even just
a sp/dif in header), it is a small matter to convert optical to
coaxial.

If you're handy with soldering, you basically need a photo transistor
(toslink receiver) and a few other components ... or if you prefer a
finished product, toslink to coax converters are normally around $20,
even cheaper if you shop I bit ... I think I paid around $15 for mine,
but it's the other way around, coax to toslink.

Gordon


On 6/8/06, Avuton Olrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hello,

 I'm soon to be needing a sound card for recording (24/7) with optical
 SPDIF. I already have one doing the job, an Audigy2 Platinum, which I
 could get another one, but I'm looking to see if there's a cheaper
 alternative, maybe even something that doesn't require a 5 1/4 slot,
 that would accomplish the same thing. PCI and ALSA/reliability are a
 must.

 Thanks for the recommendations,
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Re: [Alsa-user] big soundfont and audigy

2006-06-08 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Sat, 3 Jun 2006 00:42:49 +0200,
Dominique Michel wrote:
 
 Le Fri, 2 Jun 2006 15:34:43 +0200,
 Dominique Michel [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit :
 
  Hi all,
  
  I have an audigy2, run a 2.6.16-rt22 kernel and the alsa drivers from this 
  kernel. So, the right driver for this card is emu10k1.
  
  When I load a soudfont of 61 Mb in the card, asxfload -M tell me att I have 
  about 70Mb left. The biggest font I can load is about 131Mb.
  My problem is at I want to load per default a 238 Mb soudfont in the card. 
  I have 1.5Gb ram in the box. Is it a way to load it in the card?
  I rtfm, but I don't find anything. The audigy need unfragmented memory to 
  load a soundfont. Is it a way to reserve a amount of unfragmented memory 
  for this card at boot time?
  
  I see on the alsa website at the driver for my card have changed with the 
  last alsa drivers.
 
 Not true. No matter, I just installed the last stable version of all the alsa 
 packages and get exactly the same result with asfxload.

You need to increase the value of max_buffer_size module option.
The default is 128MB.  See ALSA-Configuration.txt.


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Re: [Alsa-user] Polypaudio plugin docs

2006-06-08 Thread Takashi Iwai
At Mon, 05 Jun 2006 18:17:30 -0400,
Lee Revell wrote:
 
 Where are the docs for the ALSA Polypaudio plugin?

alsa-plugins/doc/README-polyp

 Specifically, how do
 I use it to make ALSA applications network transparent?

AFAIK, you can specify server parameter or POLYP_SERVER environment
variable.  I've not tested it by myself, though...


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Re: [Alsa-user] Recording spdif/iec958 on ice1725 terratec 7.1 space

2006-06-08 Thread Ian Malone
Lee Revell wrote:
 On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 17:10 +0100, Ian Malone wrote:
(Sorry, this must have gone to the list twice.  Thought
I'd tripped up with subscription)

 Hi,

 I'm trying to work out how to record from an S/PDIF input
 using a Terratec 7.1 Space (Envy24 based card, supported by
 ICE1724 Alsa driver).  It seems that I should be doing
 something like:

 $ arecord -D hwplug:0,1 -f cd test.wav

 But his doesn't seem to be working.  Admittedly I tested
 this in loopback with a cable between SPDIF in and out,

I've now got a DAB radio plugged in rather than the loopback.
Recording line-in works, as does recording spdif in Windows.

 the equivalent arecord -D hwplug:0,1 and IEC958 output
 unmuted.  I'll have a go in a while with a different SPDIF
 source, although my previous attempts didn't get very far:
 https://www.redhat.com/archives/fedora-list/2006-June/msg00236.html
 
 Use arecord -D iec958 (it should do the same thing but it's more
 readable).
 

I get arecord: set_params:901: Sample format non available
unless I do -D plug:iec958 or add -f S32_LE to the command line.

 Try it with -f dat rather than -f cd.
 
 What exactly do you mean by 'it does not work'?  That could mean
 anything - silence, noise, machine crashes, blows up, etc?
 

Except for the cases when it complains about format non available
it appears to record, but the resulting .wav contains only silence
(checked in audacity, shows a flat line).  Happens for -f dat, cd,
S32_LE, -D hw:0,1, plughw:0,1, iec958, spdif.  I can boot into
Windows without doing anything to the hardware and successfully
record.

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Re: [Alsa-user] OT: Recommendations for sound recording with SPDIF

2006-06-08 Thread Avuton Olrich
On 6/8/06, Gordon McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Greetings,

 If you can find one you like with a coaxial sp/dif input (or even just
 a sp/dif in header), it is a small matter to convert optical to
 coaxial.

Whoa! I didn't even realize that existed. Found one at
http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/audio_toslink_adapters.html .
That's great. Hopefully I can record through both my optical and
coaxial at the same time on the SB Audigy2. That'll be the end of the
research I need to complete. Thanks so much.
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Re: [Alsa-user] Cyrrus Logic Crystal CS4237B to configure

2006-06-08 Thread EmIScA




Take the debian unstable linux-source-2.6.16 and alsa 1.0.11 source
packages and compile them (for the kernel you can use kernel-package,
you can search google for an howto about recompile a kernel in
debian/ubuntu and package compilation from debian sources).
I tried to do that, and works. Be careful to not use binary packages
from Debian, you will probably break something, or they just don't work.

Tell me if you want more help :-D

Rene Herman ha scritto:

  Hulin Thibaud wrote:

  
  
I have now the Ubutu version Dapper 6.06 (related 1st june 2006),
with the kernel Linux 2.6.15-23-386. I have the same errors with my
old kernel 2.6.12-10 : pnpdump and alsaconf don't fall the soundcard.

  
  
Well, it's rather amazing, seeing as how your computer (a Pentium 1 
laptop) isn't exactly new but I'm looking at 2.6.15 here now and it 
indeed also has no (PnP-BIOS) support for your onboard CS4236. That 
support is new to 2.6.16.

Look at it this way -- your computer is still so advanced it needs the 
very latest Linux kernel to function completely. Great isn't it?

I asked around, and it appears that Ubuntu does not yet have a 2.6.16 
kernel available either. Them releasing with 2.6.15 is in fact a bit 
strange but nothing I can do about that. I'm really quite reluctant to 
make you compile a new kernel (or ALSA) yourself though. The added bit 
in 2.6.16 is just the "works magically" PnP-BIOS support so let's try if 
we can just enable the thing manually (if needed) and then tell the 
driver to not use pnp.

Your Crystal PNPBIOS devices were 00:0f and 00:10. In the directories:

	/sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f

and

	/sys/devices/pnp0/00:10

there should be files named "resources". If you do a:

	cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources

does it say "state = disabled" and nothing more? If so, try a:

	echo auto /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources

It should now look something like (that cat again):

	state = disabled
	io 0x534-0x537
	io 0x388-0x38b
	io 0x220-0x22f
	irq 5
	dma 1
	dma 0

Then, do a:

	echo activate /sys/devices/pnp0/00:0f/resources

after which that "state = disabled" should have been changed to "state = 
active". Ie, you should now have something like

	state = active
	io 0x534-0x537		*1
	io 0x388-0x38b		*2
	io 0x220-0x22f		*3
	irq 5			*4
	dma 1			*5
	dma 0			*6

If it already looked like this before you echoed anything into the 
resource file, all the better!

For 00:10 (the CTRL port) you should, possibly again after echoing that 
"auto" and "activate" into the resource file, you should have:

	cat /sys/devices/pnp0/00:10/resources
	state = active
	io 0x538-0x53f		*7

All still well? If so, we can try loading the driver. I already made you 
try this with the values as given here, so I'm hoping your values are 
different and it will work this time. Try:

modprobe snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 port=*1 cport=*7 irq=*4 dma1=*5 dma2=*6

substituting the *N items with the values from the resources files as 
numbered.

Did it work? Please? Ah? And with snd-cs4232 and those same 
parameters instead?

If it did work, you'd need to do that same echoing into that resource 
file that you did on every boot -- you could do this from your 
"rc.local" startup file if needed. If you didn't need any echoing (ie, 
your BIOS already actived everything, as is likely) you can just always 
load the driver with those parameters. To just need a "modprobe 
snd-cs4236", you can say in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base (I believe that's 
where ubuntu puts it but I'm not an ubuntu or debian user)

options snd-cs4236 isapnp=0 port=*1 cport=*7 irq=*4 dma1=*5 dma2=*6

  
  

  And a last resort for now:

modprobe snd-sb8 port=0x220 irq=5 dma8=1
  

Hey ! No error !
With xmms, I have music !
But sound is very bad... How can I improve that ?

  
  
Well, you could play a bit with volumes in ALSA mixer to see if it 
improves but this is the wrong driver anyway. It's just that the Crystal 
chip _has_ a soundblaster compatible part so it can be used, but the 
chrystal driver should be preferred. It is good to know that it does 
work since that will mean that at least your BIOS has enabled that part 
of the chip.

I'm hoping that with the above things will work. I can imagine it all 
looks a bit clumsy if you're a new Linux user but due to some weird 
reason the PnP-BIOS support for your chip was only added very recently 
and due to some other weird reason Ubuntu is not using 2.6.16 but 
2.6.15. As indicated, on 2.6.16 "modprobe snd-cs4232" should be all you 
need, and alsaconf should be able to figure that all out as well.

Rene.


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Re: [Alsa-user] OT: Recommendations for sound recording with SPDIF

2006-06-08 Thread Peter Zubaj
Hi,

I am not sure, but AFAIK Optical and coaxial input has one shared input
to DSP and I am not sure, if they are independent.

Peter Zubaj

On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 11:05 -0700, Avuton Olrich wrote:
 On 6/8/06, Gordon McLellan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Greetings,
 
  If you can find one you like with a coaxial sp/dif input (or even just
  a sp/dif in header), it is a small matter to convert optical to
  coaxial.
 
 Whoa! I didn't even realize that existed. Found one at
 http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/audio_toslink_adapters.html .
 That's great. Hopefully I can record through both my optical and
 coaxial at the same time on the SB Audigy2. That'll be the end of the
 research I need to complete. Thanks so much.



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Re: [Alsa-user] OT: Recommendations for sound recording with SPDIF

2006-06-08 Thread Gordon McLellan
I'm pretty sure you won't be able to do that.. for cards that have
both options,  they just have a Toslink to Coax converter built on the
card, and feed the coax signal into the dsp.

you could probably have both sources connected, but not actually use
them at the same time.

Gordon


On 6/8/06, Avuton Olrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Whoa! I didn't even realize that existed. Found one at
 http://www.ramelectronics.net/html/audio_toslink_adapters.html .
 That's great. Hopefully I can record through both my optical and
 coaxial at the same time on the SB Audigy2. That'll be the end of the
 research I need to complete. Thanks so much.
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[Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Jamie Stotz
I am trying to get alsa working in a new install of FC5 using an  
onboard nvidia nforce2 intel8x0 sound chip and an SP/DIF output. I am  
using the same .asoundrc file from my previous FC3 installation that  
was working fine. I am using the 2.6.16-1.2122_FC5 kernel and the  
1.0.11-4rc2 version of alsa that came with it. I don't remember what  
version I was running under FC3.

Unlike most people with sound problems, who have no sound, my sound  
works, but it is too loud and nothing I do in alsamixer has any  
effect on it. I have disabled the built-in sound in the KDE sound  
control panel. I can't find any error messages anywhere that seem to  
have anything to do with sound. All the tests I tried from the  
various how-to pages seem to indicate that alsa sees the card.

I did notice that the /etc/modprobe.conf file has a remove line but  
no install line for snd-intel8x0. Also it has some lines for snd- 
mpu401. Is that correct?

alias eth0 forcedeth
alias scsi_hostadapter sata_nv
alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0
alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
options snd-card-0 index=0
options snd-intel8x0 index=0
remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21  
|| : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0
alias snd-card-1 snd-mpu401
options snd-card-1 index=1
options snd-mpu401 index=1
remove snd-mpu401 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21  
|| : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-mpu401
# nvidia kernel module
alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-8762
alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-8762
# ivtv modules setup
alias char-major-81 videodev
alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install  
lirc_i2c


I was thinking of upgrading to the 1.0.11 final version to see if  
that fixed it but I haven't been able to find any RPMs of that one yet.

Thanks for any ideas,

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Jamie Stotz wrote:

 I am trying to get alsa working in a new install of FC5 using an
 onboard nvidia nforce2 intel8x0 sound chip and an SP/DIF output. I am
 using the same .asoundrc file from my previous FC3 installation that
 was working fine. I am using the 2.6.16-1.2122_FC5 kernel and the
 1.0.11-4rc2 version of alsa that came with it. I don't remember what
 version I was running under FC3.



 Unlike most people with sound problems, who have no sound, my sound
 works, but it is too loud and nothing I do in alsamixer has any
 effect on it. I have disabled the built-in sound in the KDE sound
 control panel. I can't find any error messages anywhere that seem to
 have anything to do with sound. All the tests I tried from the
 various how-to pages seem to indicate that alsa sees the card.

 I did notice that the /etc/modprobe.conf file has a remove line but
 no install line for snd-intel8x0. Also it has some lines for snd-
 mpu401. Is that correct?

No idea. Do you have an mpu401 sound card? If not remove those lines-- or
just put a # at the beginning of them.



 alias eth0 forcedeth
 alias scsi_hostadapter sata_nv
 alias snd-card-0 snd-intel8x0

This says-- when the system tries to install snd-card-0, install the module
snd-intel8x0.

 alias char-major-61 lirc_i2c
 options snd-card-0 index=0
 options snd-intel8x0 index=0
 remove snd-intel8x0 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 0 /dev/null 21
 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-intel8x0

This says when you remove the modules snd-intel8x0, instead run this
little script which saves the soundcard settings.

 alias snd-card-1 snd-mpu401

This says you have a second sound card which is a snd-mpu401. YOu may be
trying to affect the volume on the wrong card.

 options snd-card-1 index=1
 options snd-mpu401 index=1
 remove snd-mpu401 { /usr/sbin/alsactl store 1 /dev/null 21
 || : ; }; /sbin/modprobe -r --ignore-remove snd-mpu401
 # nvidia kernel module
 alias char-major-195 nvidia-1_0-8762
 alias nvidia nvidia-1_0-8762
 # ivtv modules setup
 alias char-major-81 videodev
 alias char-major-81-0 ivtv
 install lirc_i2c /sbin/modprobe ivtv; /sbin/modprobe --ignore-install
 lirc_i2c


 I was thinking of upgrading to the 1.0.11 final version to see if
 that fixed it but I haven't been able to find any RPMs of that one yet.

I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.

You have two options, alsamixer -c 0 
and alsamixer -c 1
Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the sound
you get.



 Thanks for any ideas,

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:30 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.
 
 You have two options, alsamixer -c 0 
 and alsamixer -c 1
 Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the
 sound
 you get.
 

Don't touch modprobe.conf, none of this has anything to do with the
problem.  Your soundcard probably does not have a hardware volume
control.

Try removing your .asoundrc, does the problem persist?

Please post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0.

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:30 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.

 You have two options, alsamixer -c 0
 and alsamixer -c 1
 Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the
 sound
 you get.


 Don't touch modprobe.conf, none of this has anything to do with the
 problem.  Your soundcard probably does not have a hardware volume
 control.

Sure it could. If he is actually listening to the sound from soundcard 1
and trying to control the volume on soundcard 0 ( the default) it will not
work very well. 
His system seems to have two soundcards and he does not know about it. He
has to make sure that he knowns which soundcard is handling the sounds tht
he is hearing.


 Try removing your .asoundrc, does the problem persist?

 Please post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0.

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:45 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:
 
  On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:30 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
  I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.
 
  You have two options, alsamixer -c 0
  and alsamixer -c 1
  Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the
  sound
  you get.
 
 
  Don't touch modprobe.conf, none of this has anything to do with the
  problem.  Your soundcard probably does not have a hardware volume
  control.
 
 Sure it could. If he is actually listening to the sound from soundcard 1
 and trying to control the volume on soundcard 0 ( the default) it will not
 work very well. 
 His system seems to have two soundcards and he does not know about it. He
 has to make sure that he knowns which soundcard is handling the sounds tht
 he is hearing.
 

MPU401 is not a soundcard, it does not have a mixer, it's just a MIDI
port.

The distro almost certainly gets this right.

Lee

 
  Try removing your .asoundrc, does the problem persist?
 
  Please post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0.
 
  Lee
 
 
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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:45 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:30 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.

 You have two options, alsamixer -c 0
 and alsamixer -c 1
 Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the
 sound
 you get.


 Don't touch modprobe.conf, none of this has anything to do with the
 problem.  Your soundcard probably does not have a hardware volume
 control.

 Sure it could. If he is actually listening to the sound from soundcard 1
 and trying to control the volume on soundcard 0 ( the default) it will not
 work very well.
 His system seems to have two soundcards and he does not know about it. He
 has to make sure that he knowns which soundcard is handling the sounds tht
 he is hearing.


 MPU401 is not a soundcard, it does not have a mixer, it's just a MIDI
 port.

Ah, ok, my ignorance is hanging here for all to gaze at. Sorry.

The intel 810 soundcard certainly usually has a volume control.



 The distro almost certainly gets this right.

 Lee


 Try removing your .asoundrc, does the problem persist?

 Please post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0.

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:59 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 Ah, ok, my ignorance is hanging here for all to gaze at. Sorry.
 
 The intel 810 soundcard certainly usually has a volume control.
 

Depends on the codec.  C-Media codecs do not.

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[Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Claude Yu



Someone pls reply to my request.
My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have 
downloaded and installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.




Best regards,



Claude YU
- Original Message - 
From: Claude 
Yu 
To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net 

Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:20 PM
Subject: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - 
urgent help needed


Hi Support,

I am computer engineer helping a client to 
install his Mandrake Linux with problem.
Pls help!


I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 
distrbution(free) consisting of 3 disks without great problem except without 

sound. Dual-boot option with Window Xp 
Prof smoothly. But after installedit gives no sound in 
Linux.But there
is no sound problem in Window Xp 
Prof.
I need your advice.


I am giving you the following 
info:


My desktop specs:

HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB 
DIMM
sound hardware on board
video graphic onbaord
Hdd 40GB

$lsmod

indicated no snd-x drivers 
installed



$cat /proc/asound/version

showed Alsa version 
installed
Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver 
Version 1.0.9b




$ cat / proc/asound/cards


---showed no sound 
card



When Linux bootup, building processes 
showed 2 errors in [FATAL] flags

1. Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: 
(riptide) start servicce sound (Y)/(N)/(C) ? (Y)
Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: Module 
snd-riptide not found
Fatal: Error running install command for 
snd-riptide [Fatal]


Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards 
found...

Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No such 
file or directory [Fatal]





Tried using Mandrake Control Center 
auto-hardware detection showed sound information as:

Name: Riptide Audio 
Device
showed driver used: 
snd-riptide
However, Linux returned with error while 
initialising the sound driver:

Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file 
or directory)

When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file 
existed.



$lspci |grep -i audio
showed audio controller Rockwell International 
Riptide PCI Audio Controller



I have also tried to download; 
alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz and 
followed instruction to install.
But met error while installing 
alsa-lib-0.4.1d ./configure : configure:error:install 
alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp 
site not found this version.



Furthermore, i could not locate the exact 
manufcaturer of soundcard in your Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot really 
load the right
driver. What should I 
do?



Lastly the bottom line is the system could not 
detect a soundcard.--- it always showed no soundcard 
found.

Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and 
thanks in advance.




Best regards,



Claude 
YU




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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
 installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.
  
  

Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?

Also please don't post HTML to this list.

Lee

  
  
 Best regards,
  
  
  
 
 Claude YU
 - Original Message - 
 From: Claude Yu 
 To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net 
 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:20 PM
 Subject: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent
 help needed
 
 
 Hi Support,
  
 I am computer engineer helping a client to install his Mandrake Linux
 with problem.
 Pls help!
  
  
 I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 distrbution(free) consisting of 3
 disks without great problem except without 
 sound.  Dual-boot option with Window Xp Prof smoothly.  But after
 installed it gives no sound in Linux. But there
 is no sound problem in Window Xp Prof.
 I need your advice.
  
  
 I am giving you the following info:
  
  
 My desktop specs:
  
 HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB DIMM
 sound hardware on board
 video graphic onbaord
 Hdd 40GB
  
 $lsmod
  
 indicated no snd-x drivers installed
  
  
  
 $cat /proc/asound/version
  
 showed Alsa version installed
 Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9b
  
  
  
  
 $ cat / proc/asound/cards
  
  
 ---showed no sound card
  
  
  
 When Linux bootup,  building processes showed 2 errors in [FATAL]
 flags
  
 1.  Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: (riptide) start servicce sound
 (Y)/(N)/(C) ? (Y)
 Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: Module snd-riptide not found
 Fatal: Error running install command for snd-riptide [Fatal]
  
  
 Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards found...
  
 Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No such file or directory
 [Fatal]
  
  
  
  
  
 Tried using Mandrake Control Center auto-hardware detection showed
 sound information as:
  
 Name: Riptide Audio Device
 showed driver used: snd-riptide
 However,  Linux returned with error while initialising the sound
 driver:
  
 Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file or directory)
  
 When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file existed.
  
  
  
 $lspci |grep -i audio
 showed audio controller Rockwell International Riptide PCI Audio
 Controller
  
  
  
 I have also tried to download;  alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz
 alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz and followed
 instruction to install.
 But met error while installing alsa-lib-0.4.1d  ./configure  :
 configure:error:install alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
 However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp site not found this
 version.
  
  
  
 Furthermore,  i could not locate the exact manufcaturer of soundcard
 in your Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot really load the right
 driver.  What should I do?
  
  
  
 Lastly the bottom line is the system could not detect a soundcard.---
 it always showed no soundcard found.
  
 Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and thanks in advance.
  
  
  
  
 Best regards,
  
  
  
 
 Claude YU
  
  
  
  
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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Claude Yu wrote:

 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and installed 
 alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.

Why did you download rc5 when 11 final is already out?
Do yuo have a snd-riptide.* in your modules directory
find /lib/modules/ -name snd-riptide\* 
What happens if you do 
modprobe snd-riptide
Ie, we need more information.






 Best regards,




 Claude YU
 - Original Message -
 From: Claude Yu
 To: alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net
 Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 12:20 PM
 Subject: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help 
 needed


 Hi Support,

 I am computer engineer helping a client to install his Mandrake Linux with 
 problem.
 Pls help!


 I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 distrbution(free) consisting of 3 disks 
 without great problem except without
 sound.  Dual-boot option with Window Xp Prof smoothly.  But after installed 
 it gives no sound in Linux. But there
 is no sound problem in Window Xp Prof.
 I need your advice.


 I am giving you the following info:


 My desktop specs:

 HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB DIMM
 sound hardware on board
 video graphic onbaord
 Hdd 40GB

 $lsmod

 indicated no snd-x drivers installed



 $cat /proc/asound/version

 showed Alsa version installed
 Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver Version 1.0.9b




 $ cat / proc/asound/cards


 ---showed no sound card



 When Linux bootup,  building processes showed 2 errors in [FATAL] flags

 1.  Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: (riptide) start servicce sound (Y)/(N)/(C) 
 ? (Y)
 Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: Module snd-riptide not found
 Fatal: Error running install command for snd-riptide [Fatal]


 Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards found...

 Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No such file or directory [Fatal]





 Tried using Mandrake Control Center auto-hardware detection showed sound 
 information as:

 Name: Riptide Audio Device
 showed driver used: snd-riptide
 However,  Linux returned with error while initialising the sound driver:

 Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file or directory)

 When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file existed.



 $lspci |grep -i audio
 showed audio controller Rockwell International Riptide PCI Audio Controller



 I have also tried to download;  alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz 
 alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz and followed instruction 
 to install.
 But met error while installing alsa-lib-0.4.1d  ./configure  : 
 configure:error:install alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
 However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp site not found this version.



 Furthermore,  i could not locate the exact manufcaturer of soundcard in your 
 Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot really load the right
 driver.  What should I do?



 Lastly the bottom line is the system could not detect a soundcard.--- it 
 always showed no soundcard found.

 Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and thanks in advance.




 Best regards,




 Claude YU





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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Lee Revell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
 installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.
  
  
 
 Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?
 
 Also please don't post HTML to this list.
 
 Lee
 
An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in 
the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?

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Re: [Alsa-user] Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Claude Yu




Hi Alsa support,

May someone pls reply to my request?
My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have 
downloaded and installed the latest alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5 driver.








Best regards,



Claude YU

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Claude Yu 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Monday, June 05, 2006 11:48 
AM
  Subject: Sound problem under Mandrake 
  Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed
  
  Hi Support,
  
  I am computer engineer helping a client to 
  install his Mandrake Linux with problem.
  Pls help!
  
  
  I was running Mandrake Linux 2006 
  distrbution(free) consisting of 3 disks without great problem except without 
  
  sound. Dual-boot option with Window Xp 
  Prof smoothly. But after installedit gives no sound in 
  Linux.But there
  is no sound problem in Window Xp 
  Prof.
  I need your advice.
  
  
  I am giving you the following 
  info:
  
  
  My desktop specs:
  
  HP Pavilion Celeron 466Mhz 128MB 
  DIMM
  sound hardware on board
  video graphic onbaord
  Hdd 40GB
  
  $lsmod
  
  indicated no snd-x drivers 
  installed
  
  
  
  $cat 
  /proc/asound/version
  
  showed Alsa version 
  installed
  Advanced Linux found Architecture Driver 
  Version 1.0.9b
  
  
  
  
  $ cat / 
  proc/asound/cards
  
  
  ---showed no sound 
  card
  
  
  
  When Linux bootup, building processes 
  showed 2 errors in [FATAL] flags
  
  1. Starting ALSA version 1.0.9b: 
  (riptide) start servicce sound (Y)/(N)/(C) ? (Y)
  Loading sound module(snd-riptide) FATAL: 
  Module snd-riptide not found
  Fatal: Error running install command for 
  snd-riptide [Fatal]
  
  
  Alsactl: save-state:1163:No soundcards 
  found...
  
  Can't open /root/tmp/asound.state-tmp: No 
  such file or directory [Fatal]
  
  
  
  
  
  Tried using Mandrake Control Center 
  auto-hardware detection showed sound information as:
  
  Name: Riptide Audio 
  Device
  showed driver used: 
  snd-riptide
  However, Linux returned with error 
  while initialising the sound driver:
  
  Device /dev/dsp can't be opened( no such file 
  or directory)
  
  When inspecting /dev there sn't any dsp file 
  existed.
  
  
  
  $lspci |grep -i audio
  showed audio controller Rockwell 
  International Riptide PCI Audio Controller
  
  
  
  I have also tried to download; 
  alsa-driver-0.4.1e.tar.gz alsa-lib-0.4.1d.tar.gz and alsa-utils-0.4.1.tar.gz 
  and followed instruction to install.
  But met error while installing 
  alsa-lib-0.4.1d ./configure : configure:error:install 
  alsa-driver-v0.30pre5+package first...
  However i tried to look for v0.30 on your ftp 
  site not found this version.
  
  
  
  Furthermore, i could not locate the 
  exact manufcaturer of soundcard in your Alsa sound card driver pages so cannot 
  really load the right
  driver. What should I 
  do?
  
  
  
  Lastly the bottom line is the system could 
  not detect a soundcard.--- it always showed no soundcard 
  found.
  
  Pls suggest ways of fixing this problem and 
  thanks in advance.
  
  
  
  
  Best regards,
  
  
  
  Claude 
YU
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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:

 Lee Revell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
 installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.



 Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?

 Also please don't post HTML to this list.

 Lee

 An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in
 the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?

I think you would have to ask Fedora. It is probable that the distro uses
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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 20:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Lee Revell wrote:
  On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
  Someone pls reply to my request.
  My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
  installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.
   
   
  
  Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?
  
  Also please don't post HTML to this list.
  
  Lee
  
 An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in 
 the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?
 

No, I don't use Fedora and have no idea why they don't provide a newer
ALSA version.  Many critical bugs have been fixed since rc2.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Fri, 9 Jun 2006, Claude Yu wrote:

 Hi Alsa support,

 May someone pls reply to my request?
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and installed the 
 latest alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5 driver.

You just asked 26 minutes ago. Do you really think that people are sitting
there anxiously awaiting your questions? 
(And I did answer you 10 min ago)
(But then I am not alsa support either. )


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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Bill Unruh
On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Lee Revell wrote:

 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 20:56 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Lee Revell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
 installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.



 Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?

 Also please don't post HTML to this list.

 Lee

 An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in
 the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?


 No, I don't use Fedora and have no idea why they don't provide a newer
 ALSA version.  Many critical bugs have been fixed since rc2.

Also, it's OK, Mandriva 2006 is still at 1.0.9b
(Kernel 2.6.12)



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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 19:09 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 Also, it's OK, Mandriva 2006 is still at 1.0.9b
 (Kernel 2.6.12) 

Um, it's OK if you don't have any hardware that requires a newer ALSA to
work (there's a lot of it, mostly intel HDA stuff)

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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Gene Heskett
Bill Unruh wrote:
 On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
 
 Lee Revell wrote:
 On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
 Someone pls reply to my request.
 My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
 installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.



 Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?

 Also please don't post HTML to this list.

 Lee

 An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in
 the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?
 
 I think you would have to ask Fedora. It is probable that the distro uses
 rc2, and they do not update. They just fix bugs.
 

And where obviously my opinion isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.  But 
IMO, when ALL major VoIP programs have trouble with full duplex, its a bug.

But I'm told to take my problems to the alsa list when I ask on the 
fedora list.  The alsa list claims its the apps, but the alsa 
performance is so poor that even the most recent VoIP release, twinkle, 
only 3 weeks old, is STILL USING OSS BECAUSE APPARENTLY those who 
subscribe to oss, DO have working systems.  Does that not tell the alsa 
people anything?

Its a classic case of the he said/she said pissing match.  Maybe TPTB 
ought to have themselves a game of rock, paper, scissors, with the loser 
finally admitting there is a problem?

I'd build and install 1.0.11 from the tarballs, but after it took me a 
year to get all the major bugs squished in FC2 by doing that, then I 
find that while my home FC2 system works very well indeed, the whole 
world says its hopelessly broken when I do ask about howto do something 
new on it.

You cannot, IMO, have your cake and eat it too.  If a package manager is 
to be used,  and its dependency rules adhered to, then as far as I'm 
concerned, those glaring problems found by the users of certain chipsets 
can damned well be fixed by the packagers IF the code to do so exists in 
the upstream tarballs.  However, finding out this information seems to 
require the employment of a good private detective agency or something 
equally unappetizing.

Or maybe I'm just tired, its now about 60 days of trying to make both 
this and NM work on a laptop I bought to get me away from the outrageous 
telephone costs of trying to get a job done just because its located in 
the upper peninsula of Michigan.

FWIW, skype AND the network both work rather well when this box is 
booted to XP, so it CAN BE DONE.  Unforch, windows gives me a rash I 
haven't found a skin cream to fix.

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Re: [Alsa-user] Fw: Sound problem under Mandrake Linux 2006 installation - urgent help needed

2006-06-08 Thread Lee Revell
On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 23:14 -0500, Gene Heskett wrote:
 Bill Unruh wrote:
  On Thu, 8 Jun 2006, Gene Heskett wrote:
  
  Lee Revell wrote:
  On Fri, 2006-06-09 at 11:36 +1000, Claude Yu wrote:
  Someone pls reply to my request.
  My system unable to load snd-riptide even I have downloaded and
  installed alsa-driver-1.0.11rc5.
 
 
 
  Why -rc5?  Why not just use ALSA 1.0.11?
 
  Also please don't post HTML to this list.
 
  Lee
 
  An interesting observation Lee, considering that alsa is stuck at rc2 in
  the fc5 repos.  Can you comment on the delay?
  
  I think you would have to ask Fedora. It is probable that the distro uses
  rc2, and they do not update. They just fix bugs.
  
 
 And where obviously my opinion isn't worth a bucket of warm spit.  But 
 IMO, when ALL major VoIP programs have trouble with full duplex, its a bug.
 

I am sorry about your Skype problem, but no one but Skype can debug it
as WE DO NOT HAVE THE SOURCE CODE.  Which OPEN SOURCE VoIP apps have you
tried?

There are plenty of VoIP apps with ALSA support.

For example:

http://www.openwengo.org/index.php/openwengo/public/homePage/news?payload[newsId]=0

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Re: [Alsa-user] No volume control in FC5

2006-06-08 Thread Jamie Stotz
On Jun 8, 2006, at 6:40 PM, Lee Revell wrote:
 On Thu, 2006-06-08 at 15:30 -0700, Bill Unruh wrote:
 I think you have to get your sound cards straight first.

 You have two options, alsamixer -c 0
 and alsamixer -c 1
 Maybe youshould try both to see which one controls the volume of the
 sound
 you get.


 Don't touch modprobe.conf, none of this has anything to do with the
 problem.  Your soundcard probably does not have a hardware volume
 control.

 Try removing your .asoundrc, does the problem persist?

 Please post the contents of /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0.

 Lee

Here is the output of cat /proc/asound/card0/codec97#0/ac97#0-0

0-0/0: Realtek ALC655 rev 0

PCI Subsys Vendor: 0x1565
PCI Subsys Device: 0x8201

Revision : 0x00
Compat. Class: 0x00
Subsys. Vendor ID: 0x
Subsys. ID   : 0x

Capabilities :
DAC resolution   : 16-bit
ADC resolution   : 16-bit
3D enhancement   : No 3D Stereo Enhancement

Current setup
Mic gain : +0dB [+0dB]
POP path : pre 3D
Sim. stereo  : off
3D enhancement   : off
Loudness : off
Mono output  : MIX
Mic select   : Mic1
ADC/DAC loopback : off
Extended ID  : codec=0 rev=2 LDAC SDAC CDAC DSA=0 SPDIF
Extended status  : SPCV LDAC SDAC CDAC SPDIF=3/4 SPDIF
SPDIF Control: Consumer PCM Category=0x2 Generation=1 Rate=48kHz

When I do alsamixer -c 0 I get the mixer display but it doesn't  
control anything. When I do alsamixer -c 1 I get an error message  
about an invalid parameter. I guess because I only have the 1 onboard  
sound card. I know there are no actual sound cards stuck into  
physical PCI slots.

When I disable the .asoundrc file I get no sound from mythtv.

Jamie


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