Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread s . keupert
Hello!
 
 I'm afraid the problem is totally not linked to the Debian Squeeze distro,
 reaosn: there are similar problems for some chipsets, especially the famous
 Intel HDA Audio chipset in Ubuntu:
...
 Note: I'm not telling that the problem happens for all chipsets, but tons of
 persons should probably encouter such a problem when using laptops and
 netbooks fitted with Intel hda chipsets.

It may not be a problem of distributions, however, everything worked with the 
alsa packages and configuration that come with Ubuntu, but not with those 
which come with Debian.

 At this moment I overbridge the problem on a absurd virtual way: external
 speakers, there is a vol-button you can rise up.
External speakers are not working for me.

@all:
I think I've found the root of my problem: I booted the computer with a Knoppix 
Flash drive, with which all sound output and input was fine. While checking the
/proc/asound/cards of the Knoppix system, I noticed an Sigmatel Audio Card, 
additional to the HDA Intel entry. For the same Sigmatel Chip there werde 
Channels 
displayed in Alsa mixer, which seemed to actually control my volume.
This Sigmatel entry is missing on my Debian System.

Does anyone know how to add this card to my alsa?

Best Regards
Savio

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread James Shatto
Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James



On 5/23/11, s.keup...@arcor.de s.keup...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hello!

 I'm afraid the problem is totally not linked to the Debian Squeeze distro,
 reaosn: there are similar problems for some chipsets, especially the
 famous
 Intel HDA Audio chipset in Ubuntu:
 ...
 Note: I'm not telling that the problem happens for all chipsets, but tons
 of
 persons should probably encouter such a problem when using laptops and
 netbooks fitted with Intel hda chipsets.

 It may not be a problem of distributions, however, everything worked with
 the
 alsa packages and configuration that come with Ubuntu, but not with those
 which come with Debian.

 At this moment I overbridge the problem on a absurd virtual way: external
 speakers, there is a vol-button you can rise up.
 External speakers are not working for me.

 @all:
 I think I've found the root of my problem: I booted the computer with a
 Knoppix
 Flash drive, with which all sound output and input was fine. While checking
 the
 /proc/asound/cards of the Knoppix system, I noticed an Sigmatel Audio Card,
 additional to the HDA Intel entry. For the same Sigmatel Chip there werde
 Channels
 displayed in Alsa mixer, which seemed to actually control my volume.
 This Sigmatel entry is missing on my Debian System.

 Does anyone know how to add this card to my alsa?

 Best Regards
 Savio

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread s . keupert
Hello,

Thank you.

These are the differences of the two logs: http://pastebin.com/nAtnhMvc

As I am not a really experienced user, I do not know how to add and configure 
the modules properly. It would be nice if you would explain this in more detail.

This is the modinfo on the three sound modules installed on Knoppix: 
http://pastebin.com/ADknBwRt
And this is the output of the alsa-info skript you mentioned - On Knoppix: 
http://pastebin.com/fHCguzr6 , On Debian: http://pastebin.com/0rAPiyEN .

Best Regards
Savio

PS: I hope the Pastebin Links are ok. I just wanted the mail not get too messy.
PPS: As seen in the files, I was wrong saying the there would be a Sigmatel 
card on Knoppix in /proc/asound/cards. However a Sigmatel codec is used on 
Knoppix.


Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread James Shatto
A little overkill from my description.  And so forget that versioning
would alter the module sizes.  But alsa-info has the needed info.

Knoppix - Kernel 2.6.37 - alsa 1.0.23
Debian - Kernel 2.6.32 - alsa 1.0.24

Is that the way your debian came, or did you try to fix things
manually?  Just an odd versioning combo AFAIK.  The the older debian
kernel would have the newer alsa version.

Other notes.  Aside from that WTF modinfo null. stuff for debian.

knoppix - Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205
debian - Codec: Conexant ID 2c06

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1028:01f1

So the knoppix one is the one that works?

If so:  modprobe snd-hda-intel id=SigmaTel
???

Or add snd-hda-intel.id=SigmaTel to the kernels boot line in grub (or
lilo).  Or something like that, it's been a while.  Syntax might vary.
 And it might need to be in the kernel's .config if it's not already.
Unless you compile alsa / install the old 2.4.x way.  Beyond that your
guess is as good as mine.

Probably some alias / options line you can add to
/etc/modprobe.d/*alsa* as well, or instead of those two other ways,
that functionally do the same thing (with quirks).  Hopefully
something in there rings a bell for you.  Or else the old
alsa-project.org and doc stuff might hint towards a solution.  On the
surface it looks like debian is defaulting to a conexant codec and
failing and knoppix is defaulting to a sigmatel codec and NOT failing.
 Which is the same module / driver for all intents, so something
configuration is awry.  Or I could be wrong.

- James



On 5/23/11, s.keup...@arcor.de s.keup...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hello,

 Thank you.

 These are the differences of the two logs: http://pastebin.com/nAtnhMvc

 As I am not a really experienced user, I do not know how to add and
 configure the modules properly. It would be nice if you would explain this
 in more detail.

 This is the modinfo on the three sound modules installed on Knoppix:
 http://pastebin.com/ADknBwRt
 And this is the output of the alsa-info skript you mentioned - On Knoppix:
 http://pastebin.com/fHCguzr6 , On Debian: http://pastebin.com/0rAPiyEN .

 Best Regards
 Savio

 PS: I hope the Pastebin Links are ok. I just wanted the mail not get too
 messy.
 PPS: As seen in the files, I was wrong saying the there would be a Sigmatel
 card on Knoppix in /proc/asound/cards. However a Sigmatel codec is used on
 Knoppix.


Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James

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[Alsa-user] HDA Intel problems on MacBookPro

2011-05-23 Thread Julien Claassen
Hello everyone!
   A friend of mine can't get sound on Linux Debian Wheezy/Sid. Here are the 
hardware data:
Card: HDA Intel pch (6 series chipset family, High Definition Audio controller 
Rev. 05)
Chip: Intel cougarPoint HDMI
   He runs the standard Kernel with the Distro ALSA version 1.0.23.
   Does any of you have an idea/tips?
   Thanks a lot in advance and
   Kindest regards
Julien

P.S.: My friend is included as CC, please reply to all adresses, thank you.


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Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel problems on MacBookPro

2011-05-23 Thread Paul Menzel
Dear Julian and Jeronimo,


Am Montag, den 23.05.2011, 22:09 +0200 schrieb Julien Claassen:

A friend of mine can't get sound on Linux Debian Wheezy/Sid. Here are the 
 hardware data:
 Card: HDA Intel pch (6 series chipset family, High Definition Audio 
 controller 
 Rev. 05)
 Chip: Intel cougarPoint HDMI
He runs the standard Kernel with the Distro ALSA version 1.0.23.
Does any of you have an idea/tips?

unfortunately that report is useless because it is not detailed enough.
I guess though, that Cougar Point is too new and probably not supported
by the Debian packages your friend has installed. Although 

You should do the following.

0. Be more specific what does not work. Are there any devices? Did you
try speakers and/or headphones? …
1. Probably send further messages to alsa-devel [1] instead of alsa-user
since most developers are not subscribed to alsa-user as far as I
experienced it.
2. Submit a report to the Debian bug tracking system using

reportbug linux-image-2.6…

which can be installed using the package management system, e. g. using
the following command.

sudo aptitude install reportbug

3. Attach *and* upload the output of `alsa-info.sh` to every message
[2].
4. Try out newer versions of ALSA either by compiling ALSA by yourself
(although the drivers should be included in the Linux kernel and 2.6.39
is available in the Debian Sid/unstable archive) or by running some live
system from USB medium or CD like Knoppix [3] or Fedora 15.


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Mailing-lists
[2] http://alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Help_To_Debug
[3] http://www.knoppix.org/


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Re: [Alsa-user] HDA Intel problems on MacBookPro

2011-05-23 Thread Julien Claassen
Hello Paul!
   Thanks for the detailed reply. It all looks very helpfu, except one minor 
thing, which I hope is wrong. :-) But frst the good news: We tried some more 
and restarted and now there is a soundcard, which evidently works, so I 
suppose it's udev trouble. Well in my experience udev and trouble are 
synonyms, but that's another story. :-)
   I hope we still have enough developers/gurus on this list, otherwise it 
would be bordering on pointless to have this list, since there are so many 
potential problems, which directly connect to the devel-team (like support and 
real bugs).
   Thanks again and in future I will heed the advice about alsa-info.sh.
   Warm regards
 Julien


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