Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread s . keupert
Hello!
 
 I'm afraid the problem is totally not linked to the Debian Squeeze distro,
 reaosn: there are similar problems for some chipsets, especially the famous
 Intel HDA Audio chipset in Ubuntu:
...
 Note: I'm not telling that the problem happens for all chipsets, but tons of
 persons should probably encouter such a problem when using laptops and
 netbooks fitted with Intel hda chipsets.

It may not be a problem of distributions, however, everything worked with the 
alsa packages and configuration that come with Ubuntu, but not with those 
which come with Debian.

 At this moment I overbridge the problem on a absurd virtual way: external
 speakers, there is a vol-button you can rise up.
External speakers are not working for me.

@all:
I think I've found the root of my problem: I booted the computer with a Knoppix 
Flash drive, with which all sound output and input was fine. While checking the
/proc/asound/cards of the Knoppix system, I noticed an Sigmatel Audio Card, 
additional to the HDA Intel entry. For the same Sigmatel Chip there werde 
Channels 
displayed in Alsa mixer, which seemed to actually control my volume.
This Sigmatel entry is missing on my Debian System.

Does anyone know how to add this card to my alsa?

Best Regards
Savio

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread James Shatto
Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James



On 5/23/11, s.keup...@arcor.de s.keup...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hello!

 I'm afraid the problem is totally not linked to the Debian Squeeze distro,
 reaosn: there are similar problems for some chipsets, especially the
 famous
 Intel HDA Audio chipset in Ubuntu:
 ...
 Note: I'm not telling that the problem happens for all chipsets, but tons
 of
 persons should probably encouter such a problem when using laptops and
 netbooks fitted with Intel hda chipsets.

 It may not be a problem of distributions, however, everything worked with
 the
 alsa packages and configuration that come with Ubuntu, but not with those
 which come with Debian.

 At this moment I overbridge the problem on a absurd virtual way: external
 speakers, there is a vol-button you can rise up.
 External speakers are not working for me.

 @all:
 I think I've found the root of my problem: I booted the computer with a
 Knoppix
 Flash drive, with which all sound output and input was fine. While checking
 the
 /proc/asound/cards of the Knoppix system, I noticed an Sigmatel Audio Card,
 additional to the HDA Intel entry. For the same Sigmatel Chip there werde
 Channels
 displayed in Alsa mixer, which seemed to actually control my volume.
 This Sigmatel entry is missing on my Debian System.

 Does anyone know how to add this card to my alsa?

 Best Regards
 Savio

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread s . keupert
Hello,

Thank you.

These are the differences of the two logs: http://pastebin.com/nAtnhMvc

As I am not a really experienced user, I do not know how to add and configure 
the modules properly. It would be nice if you would explain this in more detail.

This is the modinfo on the three sound modules installed on Knoppix: 
http://pastebin.com/ADknBwRt
And this is the output of the alsa-info skript you mentioned - On Knoppix: 
http://pastebin.com/fHCguzr6 , On Debian: http://pastebin.com/0rAPiyEN .

Best Regards
Savio

PS: I hope the Pastebin Links are ok. I just wanted the mail not get too messy.
PPS: As seen in the files, I was wrong saying the there would be a Sigmatel 
card on Knoppix in /proc/asound/cards. However a Sigmatel codec is used on 
Knoppix.


Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James

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Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-23 Thread James Shatto
A little overkill from my description.  And so forget that versioning
would alter the module sizes.  But alsa-info has the needed info.

Knoppix - Kernel 2.6.37 - alsa 1.0.23
Debian - Kernel 2.6.32 - alsa 1.0.24

Is that the way your debian came, or did you try to fix things
manually?  Just an odd versioning combo AFAIK.  The the older debian
kernel would have the newer alsa version.

Other notes.  Aside from that WTF modinfo null. stuff for debian.

knoppix - Codec: SigmaTel STAC9205
debian - Codec: Conexant ID 2c06

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio
Controller (rev 02)
00:1b.0 0403: 8086:284b (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1028:01f1

So the knoppix one is the one that works?

If so:  modprobe snd-hda-intel id=SigmaTel
???

Or add snd-hda-intel.id=SigmaTel to the kernels boot line in grub (or
lilo).  Or something like that, it's been a while.  Syntax might vary.
 And it might need to be in the kernel's .config if it's not already.
Unless you compile alsa / install the old 2.4.x way.  Beyond that your
guess is as good as mine.

Probably some alias / options line you can add to
/etc/modprobe.d/*alsa* as well, or instead of those two other ways,
that functionally do the same thing (with quirks).  Hopefully
something in there rings a bell for you.  Or else the old
alsa-project.org and doc stuff might hint towards a solution.  On the
surface it looks like debian is defaulting to a conexant codec and
failing and knoppix is defaulting to a sigmatel codec and NOT failing.
 Which is the same module / driver for all intents, so something
configuration is awry.  Or I could be wrong.

- James



On 5/23/11, s.keup...@arcor.de s.keup...@arcor.de wrote:
 Hello,

 Thank you.

 These are the differences of the two logs: http://pastebin.com/nAtnhMvc

 As I am not a really experienced user, I do not know how to add and
 configure the modules properly. It would be nice if you would explain this
 in more detail.

 This is the modinfo on the three sound modules installed on Knoppix:
 http://pastebin.com/ADknBwRt
 And this is the output of the alsa-info skript you mentioned - On Knoppix:
 http://pastebin.com/fHCguzr6 , On Debian: http://pastebin.com/0rAPiyEN .

 Best Regards
 Savio

 PS: I hope the Pastebin Links are ok. I just wanted the mail not get too
 messy.
 PPS: As seen in the files, I was wrong saying the there would be a Sigmatel
 card on Knoppix in /proc/asound/cards. However a Sigmatel codec is used on
 Knoppix.


Finding out what's different with more detain than Yes and No would help.

boot into knoppix

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_knoppix.log

boot into debian

$ lsmod | grep -i snd | sort 21 | tee alsa_debian.log

save these files on a common medium (flash drive) of course.

$ diff -a -U 3 alsa_knoppix.log alsa_debian.log

And of course noting /proc/asound/cards plus you might want to modinfo
the module of importance for each, to see what differs there
(versioning / parms).  And various other things generally covered in
the alsa-info.sh script.

HTH,
- James

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[Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-22 Thread s . keupert
 Hello Everyone!

After I recently switched to Debian I had the problem that only one Application 
could use my speakers at the same time, and that the microphone was not 
working. I tried to fix it with HowTos from the www without really knowing what 
I was doing. Now I have no Sound at all. Under Ubuntu 10.10 everything was 
working (though the micro was a bit quiet).
I'm using Debian 6 with Xfce and Lxde on a Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop.

Thanks in advance!

Best Regards
Savio

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aadebug outputs:

ALSA Audio Debug v0.2.0 - Sa 21. Mai 22:01:58 CEST 2011
http://alsa.opensrc.org/aadebug
http://www.gnu.org/licenses/agpl-3.0.txt

Kernel 
Linux savio-laptop 2.6.32-5-686 #1 SMP Tue Mar 8 21:36:00 UTC 2011 i686 
GNU/Linux
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.24.
Compiled on May 20 2011 for kernel 2.6.32-5-686 (SMP).

Loaded Modules 
snd_hda_intel  16301  0 
snd_hda_codec  52798  1 snd_hda_intel
snd_hwdep   4170  1 snd_hda_codec
snd_pcm_oss28019  0 
snd_mixer_oss  10678  1 snd_pcm_oss
snd_pcm47175  3 snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_pcm_oss
snd_seq_dummy   1079  0 
snd_seq_oss20886  0 
snd_seq_midi3642  0 
snd_rawmidi12754  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_seq_midi_event  3750  2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq34958  6 
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer  12530  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device  3839  5 
snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd35600  13 
snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_codec,snd_hwdep,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_pcm,snd_seq_dummy,snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
snd_page_alloc  4861  2 snd_hda_intel,snd_pcm

Proc Asound ---
 0 [Intel  ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
  HDA Intel at 0xfebfc000 irq 21
  1:: sequencer
  2: [ 0- 1]: hardware dependent
  3: [ 0]   : control
 33:: timer
00-01: HDA Codec 1
Client info
  cur  clients : 3
  peak clients : 3
  max  clients : 192

Client   0 : System [Kernel]
  Port   0 : Timer (Rwe-)
  Port   1 : Announce (R-e-)
Connecting To: 15:0
Client  14 : Midi Through [Kernel]
  Port   0 : Midi Through Port-0 (RWe-)
Client  15 : OSS sequencer [Kernel]
  Port   0 : Receiver (-we-)
Connected From: 0:1

Dev Snd ---
insgesamt 0
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root   60 21. Mai 21:15 by-path
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  3 21. Mai 21:15 controlC0
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  2 21. Mai 21:15 hwC0D1
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116,  1 21. Mai 21:15 seq
crw-rw+ 1 root audio 116, 33 21. Mai 21:15 timer

CPU ---
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500  @ 2.20GHz
cpu MHz : 800.000
model name  : Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500  @ 2.20GHz
cpu MHz : 800.000

RAM ---
MemTotal:2073372 kB
SwapTotal:   2596856 kB

Hardware --
00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600M GT] 
(rev a1)

Interupts -
CPU0   CPU1   
   0: 250542 246438   IO-APIC-edge  timer
   1:   1104916   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
   8:  0  1   IO-APIC-edge  rtc0
   9:  0  1   IO-APIC-fasteoi   acpi
  12:   1443   1387   IO-APIC-edge  i8042
  14:  17165  16530   IO-APIC-edge  ata_piix
  15:  0  0   IO-APIC-edge  ata_piix
  16:   2980   2523   IO-APIC-fasteoi   nvidia
  17:  18543  17815   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ata_piix, eth0
  18:  0  0   IO-APIC-fasteoi   mmc0
  19: 19 26   IO-APIC-fasteoi   firewire_ohci
  20:  33083  29336   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb2, ehci_hcd:usb3, 
uhci_hcd:usb5
  21:  8  8   IO-APIC-fasteoi   uhci_hcd:usb4, uhci_hcd:usb6, 
hda_intel
  22:  1  1   IO-APIC-fasteoi   ehci_hcd:usb1, uhci_hcd:usb7
  28:646557   PCI-MSI-edge  iwl3945
 NMI:  0  0   Non-maskable interrupts
 LOC: 143584 154487   Local timer interrupts
 SPU:  0  0   Spurious interrupts
 PMI:  0  0   Performance monitoring interrupts
 PND:  0  0   Performance pending work
 RES:   8494   8856   Rescheduling interrupts
 CAL:177101   Function call interrupts
 TLB:   1064   1487   TLB shootdowns
 TRM:  0  0   Thermal event 

Re: [Alsa-user] [SPAM] No Sound in Debian 6

2011-05-22 Thread Y P
Hi,

On Sun, May 22, 2011 at 02:21:28PM +0200, s.keup...@arcor.de wrote:
  Hello Everyone!
 
 After I recently switched to Debian I had the problem that only one 
 Application could use my speakers at the same time, and that the microphone 
 was not working. I tried to fix it with HowTos from the www without really 
 knowing what I was doing. Now I have no Sound at all. Under Ubuntu 10.10 
 everything was working (though the micro was a bit quiet).
 I'm using Debian 6 with Xfce and Lxde on a Dell Inspiron 1520 Laptop.

I'm afraid the problem is totally not linked to the Debian Squeeze distro,
reaosn: there are similar problems for some chipsets, especially the famous
Intel HDA Audio chipset in Ubuntu:
I googled and found some suggestions like puting a ppa repo in your
sources.list and removing then replacing alsa-base and alsa-utils by a ppa
version;
in Debian I'm still waiting to know what to do since those ppa repos are
only for Ubuntu distro's.
I notices that the problem with ALSA occured since previous distros, that's
why the info/suggestions at ubuntuforums refers to 9.10 (Intrepid, but also
to all the other published editions; so this ALSA problem is now appeared
since long time ago but still not resolved!
Note: I'm not telling that the problem happens for all chipsets, but tons of
persons should probably encouter such a problem when using laptops and
netbooks fitted with Intel hda chipsets.
At this moment I overbridge the problem on a absurd virtual way: external
speakers, there is a vol-button you can rise up.

The best solution is that the ALSA gurus definitely fix the problem
or that they should give us a good suggestion how to replace ALSA by Jack or
OSS4, or telling us if the problem is being resolved soon! 

Unfortunately I can't apply lots of suggestions made by James in previous
mailings, I'm a command-line user, not a Gnome user;
but in essence that doesn't matter in Linux: when a system works it works in
cli or in X as well, that's one of the nicest properties of Gnu/Linux!

Y P 

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