[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Nigel, Has anybody determined which Objects are Pollux and Castor? From looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: Amsat-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 014 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 023 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 026 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Hi Mike and the group, Due to being very busy on this end, I've yet to try copying the birds to test the keps, so I really can't deduce to which is which. Your correct, they are still much too close to accurately name. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Mike Rupprecht m...@mike-rupprecht.de To: 'Jeff Yanko' wb3...@cox.net; 'Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF' ni...@ngunn.net; 'Amsat-BB' amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 4:03 AM Subject: AW: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps Hi, I used OBJ E for the last pass with good results. But I think they are too close together at the moment to say what is what. 73, Mike DK3WN -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org [mailto:amsat-bb-boun...@amsat.org] Im Auftrag von Jeff Yanko Gesendet: Samstag, 1. August 2009 12:59 An: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF; Amsat-BB Betreff: [amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps Nigel, Has anybody determined which Objects are Pollux and Castor? From looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: Amsat-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 014 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 023 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 026 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
I don't know the order but I did publish a guess yesterday. That guess now doesn't appear correct. If we project these keps forward a few days, the order of the satellites is clearly D, Dragonsat, C, G, E, F. (D comes over first) If we assume that the highest mass object will stay up longest, then Castor is object F, Pollux object E. Objects G and C are the cans that held the satellites at ejection time and object D is the seperator disk. (see pic here: http://mt-milcom.blogspot.com/2009/07/navys-ande-2-launched-aboard-endeavour.html ) Dragonsat, with a mass of only 5KG fits in well with this assumption. However, if we assume that drag is predominantly dependent on physical size/surface area, then the two end cans will fall fastest and Dragonsat now doesn't fit my model. Any corrections to my assumption are welcomed. Jeff Yanko wrote: Nigel, Has anybody determined which Objects are Pollux and Castor? From looking at the keps, my assumption would be objects D and E. 73, Jeff WB3JFS - Original Message - From: Nigel Gunn G8IFF/W8IFF ni...@ngunn.net To: Amsat-BB amsat-bb@amsat.org Sent: Saturday, August 01, 2009 3:48 AM Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 014 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.8011476466 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 023 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 026 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Telemetry decode can be found here: https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Main.html ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Pollux tlm
Hi all telemetry fans Copied just one frame from Pollux at 13:30 utc over England using my weather sat turnstile (no other antennas at present). POLLUX-1/TELEMCQUI,?,F0: SYST 159093 0 0 33 0 01b1 12f0 0002 1190 1198 0066 1110 0044 0f50 0158 08d0 0fc0 003e 73 John G7HIA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] AMSAT INDIA - July Newsletter
All, AMSAT INDIA July News letter is available for download at www.amsatindia.org/Newsletter or directly at http://amsatindia.org/Newsletter/AmsatIndia-News-July-09.pdf Contents : 1. HAMSAT II Update. 2. VO-52 Contest 3. VO-52 Award Update 4. News From AMSAT Organizations worldwide. 73's Nitin [VU3TYG] Secretary, AMSAT INDIA www.amsatindia.org ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Here's another set.
From Space-Track 12:05ish. DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 036 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09213.10866204 .00030506 0-0 16239-3 029 2 35691 051.6398 076.0992 0003398 034.5690 325.5606 15.80167227 221 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 029 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09213.10877767 .00019790 0-0 10746-3 037 2 35693 051.6415 076.1025 0003403 042.5021 317.6364 15.80021238 229 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 036 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09213.10893030 .00024031 0-0 13061-3 037 2 35695 051.6429 076.1057 0004268 042.6969 317.4434 15.79854678 229 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: More Telem
Came home, went up into the shack, turned the rig on and captured one packet within seconds. Time is NZST (UT + 12) Fm POLLUX-1 To CQ Via TELEM UI pid=F0 Len=101 [23:11:07] SYST 150447 0 0 33 0 fffe 0fd0 fffe 0fc8 fffe 0f80 fffe 0b90 fffe 0b60 0158 08d6 0fba 003a Sil ZL2CIA ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: ANDES-2 latest keps
Hi Larry. I'm not aware of decode software yet but the crib to help you is here https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Castor.html and here https://goby.nrl.navy.mil/ANDE/Pollux.html To load the keps into Orbitron, cut the keps from the e-mail and paste into a text editor (notepad for instance) Save it as a plain text file. From Orbitron, click LOAD TLE and find your text file. FX25 interface details don't appear to be available yet. I'm confused now about which object is which. Either space-Track has muddled them or they have swapped positions. I think the Space-Track mis-identification is more likely. Larry Teran wrote: Hi! Niguel, I'm KI6YAA Larry from Calexico, I'm relatively new to satellites, and I just started to play with APRS and Packet, so I will apreciate your help if you tell me with software I can use to decode ANDE telemetry, other question is how to load this Keps on orbitron. it also mention on the website of ANDE that you can make or buy the interface to work FX.25 do you know the link to that? Tanks in advace! Larry KI6YAA Date: Sat, 1 Aug 2009 10:48:58 + From: ni...@ngunn.net To: amsat-bb@amsat.org Subject: [amsat-bb] ANDES-2 latest keps DRAGONSAT 1 35690U 09038B 09212.91855109 .00018552 0-0 98913-4 0 36 2 35690 051.6389 077.0804 0005263 092.7131 267.4479 15.80470389 220 OBJECT C 1 35691U 09038C 09212.09676612 .00018444 0-0 1-3 0 14 2 35691 051.6400 081.3457 0001895 035.5288 324.5627 15.80114764 66 OBJECT D 1 35692U 09038D 09212.91896738 .00041959 0-0 22207-3 0 29 2 35692 051.6403 077.0848 0003027 038.3721 321.7710 15.80132412 194 OBJECT E 1 35693U 09038E 09212.91902338 .00010276 0-0 57669-4 0 23 2 35693 051.6411 077.0860 0003028 046.5336 313.5353 15.80001620 190 OBJECT F 1 35694U 09038F 09213.04564151 .00010373 0-0 58515-4 0 36 2 35694 051.6419 076.4309 0004175 040.6052 319.5130 15.79870602 218 OBJECT G 1 35695U 09038G 09212.91916068 .00017644 0-0 97025-4 0 26 2 35695 051.6424 077.0893 0003817 046.8198 313.2805 15.79836851 196 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb Get free photo software from Windows Live Click here. http://www.windowslive.com/online/photos?ocid=PID23393::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-US:SI_PH_software:082009 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.38/2274 - Release Date: 07/31/09 05:58:00 -- Nigel A. Gunn, 1865 El Camino Drive, Xenia, OH 45385-1115, USA. tel +1 937 825 5032 Amateur Radio G8IFF W8IFF (was KC8NHF), e-mail ni...@ngunn.net www http://www.ngunn.net Member of ARRL, GQRP #11396, QRPARCI #11644, SOC #548, Flying Pigs QRP Club International #385, Dayton ARA #2128, AMSAT-NA LM-1691, AMSAT-UK 0182, MKARS, ALC, GCARES, XWARN. ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] Re: Pollux Castor Telemetery
Castor is running the same power. I think the issue is the instruments mounted to the shells are interfering with the transmission. I was given permission to write up a couple articles about the satellites. I'll start that and push them for release and to the AMSAT journals. Ivan On Aug 1, 2009, at 5:39 PM, Armando Mercado wrote: Hi, Is there a central depository for ANDE2 telemetry? I have a couple a days worth stored up. Also, I noticed very few frames from Castor. Most telemetery frames posted are from Pollux. Is Castor running less power? Thanks, Armando, N8IGJ ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb ___ Sent via amsat...@amsat.org. Opinions expressed are those of the author. Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program! Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
[amsat-bb] ANS-214 AMSAT Weekly Bulletins
AMSAT NEWS SERVICE ANS-214 ANS is a free, weekly, news and information service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation. ANS reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building, launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio satellites. Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to: ans-edi...@amsat.org In this edition: * North Texas Balloon Launch Number 17 * Castor and Pollox Deployed From STS-127 * Amateur Radio Newsline 2009 Young Ham of the Year Announced * DRAGONSat Deployed From STS-127 * Satellite Shorts From All Over * ARISS Status - 27 July 2009 SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-214.01 North Texas Balloon Launch Number 17 AMSAT News Service Bulletin 214.01 From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD. August 2, 2009 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-214.01 AMATEUR RADIO GROUP TO FLY BALLOON FLIGHT FROM HILLSBORO TEXAS AIRPORT The next mission number 17, named Summer Time Blues, to be held by the North Texas Balloon Project (NTEXBP) is planned for launch about 8:30 am on August 8, 2009 from the municipal airport in Hillsboro, Texas, just south of Fort Worth and Dallas. Back up date is August 15, 2009. Two payload packages containing sensors and amateur radios will be carried to nearly 100,000 feet in about 90 minutes by a helium balloon and return via parachute in about 50 minutes. Mobile recovery teams will use position reports from the onboard GPS and APRS transmitter on 144.390 MHz and radio direction finding techniques to recover the payloads. Pre-launch activities will begin about 7:00 am with the HF Launch Net on 7260 +/- 5 kHz, LSB beginning around 8:00 am. A cross band repeater will be activated soon after launch. Uplink is 445.800 MHz and downlink is 147.560 MHz. Handheld VHF radios and scanners can receive the downlink easily. At the peak altitude ham radio operators from Texas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Arkansas, Louisiana, and Kansas can contact each other using the cross band repeater. The radios used normally have a range of about 5 to 10 miles, but that range will be extended to about 500 miles at the peak altitude. At the peak altitude, the curvature of the earth is visible. Digital video is recorded for later playback. APRS packets transmit the balloon's location about once a minute. NTEXBP's Tommy Davis said, In past operations we did the launches for fun and the enjoyment of flight. It involves many different facets of amateur radio and thus a project that many types of amateur radio operators can enjoy together. There is also an educational component utilized by scouting groups, because it involves orienteering and can be counted toward several different merit badges, as well as by teachers for science experiments. Davis said, Area scout troops are invited along with all that are interested. In the event of unfavorable weather or poor jet stream conditions, the launch will occur at a later date. Be sure to check www.ntexbp.org or www.w5sjz.net and other Ham Radio forums and news sources for later information. The public is invited to come out to the Hillsboro Municipal Airport, located at Exit 3 on Interstate Highway 35W, to watch the launch. North Texas Balloon Project is a group of amateur (HAM) radio operators from Fort Worth and Dallas and has launched balloons from Cleburne, Clifton, and Hillsboro airports since 1991. This is the first launch during this year and is funded by the amateur radio operators associated with the North Texas Balloon Project. Operators and Technical Data to follow at www.ntexbp.org or www.w5sjz.net. Reports, questions, APRS and other data may be sent to NTEXBP by emailing webmas...@ntexbp.org . Please forward to interested Hams and ham communities. I would also appreciate any announcement that could be made on local repeaters during allotted calls for announcements. Thanks as always. [ANS thanks Larry, K5PHD, for the above information] /EX SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-214.02 Castor and Pollox Deployed From STS-127 AMSAT News Service Bulletin 214.02 From AMSAT HQ SILVER SPRING, MD. August 2, 2009 To All RADIO AMATEURS BID: $ANS-214.02 Castor and Pollox, two satellites in the Atmospheric Neutral Density Experiment (ANDE) program were successfully deployed from STS-127 after it undocked from the International Space Station The ANDE mission consists of two spherical spacecraft fitted with retro-reflectors for satellite laser ranging (SLR). The constant and well-determined cross section and surface properties of the ANDE spacecraft provide an ideal set of objects for monitoring atmospheric drag and the calibration of space surveillance network (SSN) assets both radar and optical. Castor Castor is a 19 inch diameter aluminum sphere with a mass of 63 kg. The satellite has several different types of sensors. There are two main sensors, a Neutral particle wind and temperature spectrometer and an ion mass spectrometer. A
